I don't know how Electrical Energy Storage Systems work. From what you say EEstor looks like a very promising technology. Where would this "solid state" system get its electricity from?
The internal combustion engine doesn't have much of a choice.
Not only the Prius Killer... How about the Middle East Killer - No more demand for gas and oil. GM should have kept on going with the Saturn EV1 YEARS AGO!!!
If GM did something now, it would stimulate the economy... But can't because to many Oil executives are buried in their pockets - My guess anyway.
Not only the Prius Killer... How about the Middle East Killer - No more demand for gas and oil. GM should have kept on going with the Saturn EV1 YEARS AGO!!!
If GM did something now, it would stimulate the economy... But can't because to many Oil executives are buried in their pockets - My guess anyway.
I was reading about a new improved Li-ion battery technology recently, using nano silicon fibers to hold the lithium ions instead of carbon. Seems that will boost the batteries energy density from 1.8 times(critic) to 10 times (news report) current Li-ion batteries. Even just 2 times doubles the Teslas range to 600Km, 10 times, well, 3000Km range on a single charge anyone. The S was designed by the same guy that did the Jaguar XF, hence the similarities. An these are early days.
do your research again. That's only an improvment on the anode. Silicone does not cycle well at the moment, and with imrovments on the anode side only, they predict a 40% improvement in density, not ten times. BEVs are the future, but the majic battery hasn't arrived.
Researchers from Stanford University and Hanyang University in Ansan, Korea, in collaboration with LG Chem (makers of the Chevy Volt battery) . . . . . . the capacity in a Li-ion full cell consisting of a cathode of LiCoO2 and anode of Si nanotubes demonstrates a 10 times higher capacity.
Jaephil Cho, the associate professor of applied chemistry at Hanyang University who led the research on nanotube anodes, says that this technology could boost the capacity of a hybrid car's battery between 6 and 8 times.
They are now working on finding a better cathode material to match the improved anode
"problem will be pairing the high-performance anode with a cathode that can match it, so if the new Si-nanotube anode can store 10x more charge, a cathode that can also store 10x more charge will be required" Found your ref. currently looking for mine to back-up 40% claim, which is relistic for production without major improvment on cathode side. also trying to acces their report through college database, so i don't have to pay.
@heartlessvietboy Yes I have. Electricity storage solutions, which have changed little since the lead acid battery came on the scene, has become the focus of serious research today, and already the solutions are mind blowing. When chevron brought up the patents for large MiNH batteries years ago, and killed off any hope of an electric vehicle with decent range, this was around the time of the very capable Rav4-E, that seemed to be it. Then along came Li-ion. What will the future bring?
That wasn't the original article I used but popped up with google. The point is research is ongoing into better battery technology. Another company is making claims for breakthrough ultra capacitors that will hold as much energy as current li-ion batterries, have a cost comparable to lead acid, and being capacitors, never wear out. So it is exciting times for BEV.
They have to actually make the volt first. With all the trouble gm has with hybrids, I am certain it will probably not come out. It took them years to make a SUV hybrid. With that track record, they will never get the volt out.
Well with all they popularity the volt has been getting I do believe it will come out on time.
As for the better Place charging method. I don't believe it's a good idea because charging more for the electricity could make gasoline cars look cheaper to own.
But the cost per mile will be cheaper than gas per mile. If you separate the cost of the battery from the car, the customer won't have to pay a huge amount at one time. Most people don't want to purchase the battery. If people paid per mile, they would be saving money compared to gas. It would also lower the price of the car and give it the ability to swap the battery.
Not only the Prius Killer... How about the Middle East Killer - No more demand for gas and oil. GM should have kept on going with the Saturn EV1 YEARS AGO!!!
If GM did something now, it would stimulate the economy... But can't because to many Oil executives are buried in their pockets - My guess anyway.
i want this electric aston-martin :d
torentmonkey 5 months ago
I don't know how Electrical Energy Storage Systems work. From what you say EEstor looks like a very promising technology. Where would this "solid state" system get its electricity from?
The internal combustion engine doesn't have much of a choice.
heartlessvietboy 10 months ago
The A Battery Technology will advance in the future. The future will be electric propulsion.
heartlessvietboy 11 months ago
Not only the Prius Killer... How about the Middle East Killer - No more demand for gas and oil. GM should have kept on going with the Saturn EV1 YEARS AGO!!!
If GM did something now, it would stimulate the economy... But can't because to many Oil executives are buried in their pockets - My guess anyway.
TheBand2x 1 year ago
Not only the Prius Killer... How about the Middle East Killer - No more demand for gas and oil. GM should have kept on going with the Saturn EV1 YEARS AGO!!!
If GM did something now, it would stimulate the economy... But can't because to many Oil executives are buried in their pockets - My guess anyway.
TheBand2x 1 year ago
ill buy it just for the looks
andre364 2 years ago 2
I was reading about a new improved Li-ion battery technology recently, using nano silicon fibers to hold the lithium ions instead of carbon. Seems that will boost the batteries energy density from 1.8 times(critic) to 10 times (news report) current Li-ion batteries. Even just 2 times doubles the Teslas range to 600Km, 10 times, well, 3000Km range on a single charge anyone. The S was designed by the same guy that did the Jaguar XF, hence the similarities. An these are early days.
EnigmaNZ1 2 years ago
Oops, thats miles, not Km.
EnigmaNZ1 2 years ago
do your research again. That's only an improvment on the anode. Silicone does not cycle well at the moment, and with imrovments on the anode side only, they predict a 40% improvement in density, not ten times. BEVs are the future, but the majic battery hasn't arrived.
7926645 2 years ago
Researchers from Stanford University and Hanyang University in Ansan, Korea, in collaboration with LG Chem (makers of the Chevy Volt battery) . . . . . . the capacity in a Li-ion full cell consisting of a cathode of LiCoO2 and anode of Si nanotubes demonstrates a 10 times higher capacity.
EnigmaNZ1 2 years ago
Jaephil Cho, the associate professor of applied chemistry at Hanyang University who led the research on nanotube anodes, says that this technology could boost the capacity of a hybrid car's battery between 6 and 8 times.
They are now working on finding a better cathode material to match the improved anode
EnigmaNZ1 2 years ago
"problem will be pairing the high-performance anode with a cathode that can match it, so if the new Si-nanotube anode can store 10x more charge, a cathode that can also store 10x more charge will be required" Found your ref. currently looking for mine to back-up 40% claim, which is relistic for production without major improvment on cathode side. also trying to acces their report through college database, so i don't have to pay.
7926645 2 years ago
Have you ever heard of A123 Systems or EEStor?
heartlessvietboy 1 year ago
@heartlessvietboy Yes I have. Electricity storage solutions, which have changed little since the lead acid battery came on the scene, has become the focus of serious research today, and already the solutions are mind blowing. When chevron brought up the patents for large MiNH batteries years ago, and killed off any hope of an electric vehicle with decent range, this was around the time of the very capable Rav4-E, that seemed to be it. Then along came Li-ion. What will the future bring?
EnigmaNZ1 1 year ago
That's interesting actually, could you sent me the reference for that (genuine request).
Thanks
7926645
7926645 2 years ago
That wasn't the original article I used but popped up with google. The point is research is ongoing into better battery technology. Another company is making claims for breakthrough ultra capacitors that will hold as much energy as current li-ion batterries, have a cost comparable to lead acid, and being capacitors, never wear out. So it is exciting times for BEV.
EnigmaNZ1 2 years ago
true, keep up the good work.
7926645 2 years ago
Will this be the Prius-Killer?
But the price is a bit high.(I heard it would be on sale USD50,000)
gymikk 2 years ago 4
No the volt is the Prius-Killer.
ekuwa69 2 years ago
They have to actually make the volt first. With all the trouble gm has with hybrids, I am certain it will probably not come out. It took them years to make a SUV hybrid. With that track record, they will never get the volt out.
ratryu 2 years ago
I hope they use the Better Place method of charging per km or mile so they can separate the cost of the battery from the car.
ratryu 2 years ago
Well with all they popularity the volt has been getting I do believe it will come out on time.
As for the better Place charging method. I don't believe it's a good idea because charging more for the electricity could make gasoline cars look cheaper to own.
ekuwa69 2 years ago
But the cost per mile will be cheaper than gas per mile. If you separate the cost of the battery from the car, the customer won't have to pay a huge amount at one time. Most people don't want to purchase the battery. If people paid per mile, they would be saving money compared to gas. It would also lower the price of the car and give it the ability to swap the battery.
ratryu 2 years ago
Not only the Prius Killer... How about the Middle East Killer - No more demand for gas and oil. GM should have kept on going with the Saturn EV1 YEARS AGO!!!
If GM did something now, it would stimulate the economy... But can't because to many Oil executives are buried in their pockets - My guess anyway.
TheBand2x 1 year ago
The Toyota Prius is an excellent car. But the Tesla Model S is will be hard to beat.
heartlessvietboy 1 year ago