the majority of plane pieces that you would expect to see (wings, etc) were not there. And many of the pieces that were found dont match a boeng 747, which implies that they were planted at the scene
"the facts". if they were indeed facts then why are there so many physicists and archetects and engineers who work INDEPENDENTLY and not for the gov (NIST) who are contrary to the beliefs of the official report? you probably didn't know since you probably get your news from fox or nbc or cnn, that the chair and vice chair of the 9/11 comish wrote a book detailing the accounts of fbi and cia agents obstructing the investigation and telling them not "dig too deep"? i'm just a nut what do i know?
tell me where the hell the plane is? i dont see ANY evidence of a huge boeing aircraft. and i don't think those 37,400lbs engines are so fragile that they would vaporize. again, a 17-20ft entrance hole in the pentagon with no evidence of wing or engine damage. wishful thinking. i know you wish to believe our gov. is always honest and looking out for our intrests. they would never do anything to hurt its civilians to accomplish its agenda. OPERATION NORTHWOODS, a REAL PROVEN gov document
This video proves to me beyond the shadow of a doubt that this was not a plane. The explosion occurs here at the immediate point of impact, which was not the case when the planes hit the twin towers. It wasn't until the plane struck somewhere near the center core of the towers that they exploded. The object that appears at :43 is far to slim, and doesn't appear long enough to be a plane, at least commercial. Also, after the explosion, a white streak of smoke is still visible.
"The explosion occurs here at the immediate point of impact, which was not the case when the planes hit the twin towers" dude, the video quality and frame rate of the security cam is so bad you dont actually see what happened when the plane immediately hit the building.
again, its the bad video quality and terrible frame rate. do you not see those?
@911NeverForget No we do. Which proves out point that these videos are made up for you to "believe" in the hoax.
I see no plane. If your eyes see a plane its wishfull thinking. So as to say that the video is so bad you cant make anything out, its got to be a plane, is not reasonable thinking. Sheeple. You mean to tell me our Pentagon has super cheap security cameras???
'No we do." no you dont. you all constantly act like you know all, see all, hear all, sense all, etc.
"Which proves out point that these videos are made up for you to "believe" in the hoax." no. it doesnt.
"If your eyes see a plane its wishfull thinking. So as to say that the video is so bad you cant make anything out, its got to be a plane, is not reasonable thinking." what the hell are you talking about? where do i base it being a plane on that security cam.
"You mean to tell me our Pentagon has super cheap security cameras???" security cameras are commonly found like this. it doesnt mean they're super cheap.
@911NeverForget Not cheap? A frickin huge commercial airliner crashes in the Pentagon and you cant even use the video to base your claim that AN AIRLINER crashed into the pentagon!!
Thats a shitty video camera. what is the world is it supposed to do?
'No we do." no you dont. you all constantly act like you know all, see all, hear all, sense all, etc." Isnt that what you do?
And your lame two word 3 year old answers are lame at best. Sheeple.
"A frickin huge commercial airliner crashes in the Pentagon and you cant even use the video to base your claim that AN AIRLINER crashed into the pentagon!!" you make it sound like the video's the only thing out there.
"Thats a shitty video camera. what is the world is it supposed to do?" if the plane weren't moving at 500 MPH it probably wouldve been more visable. have you remembered that? the camera is not at complete fault here.
@911NeverForget Here you are again, using what you've been told as facts. I let my eyes discover the facts. That aint no plane. No plane in front of the Pentagon.
So at 500 mph the two engines on the 757 made no damage to the building before it collapsed. Hmm makes you wonder eh? Like thats impossible, unless a plane never hit the Pentagon. Gee thats really hard to figure out....
i criticize something you did and state how you'll never see your idiocy. how is that using something ive been told as facts? that makes absolutely no sense.
the engines are fragile, thats why. i know i told you that before.
@911NeverForget - Actually the grainy piece of trash video indicates that the camera was made of toaster parts or something. Sure, you can lower any nice camera's fps to 1 per second or whatever, however the video looks like trash. It's highly suspicious that the Pentagon would be using that bad of a camera. Furthermore there are other camera's mounted on the building that would have caught something. But we see nothing of those.
all security cameras act the same way. its not suspicious at all. just because its the Pentagon doesnt mean they're going to have $10,000 cameras all over the place.
and they released all cameras that caught the impact when it happened. three were released. the cameras are not all going to be pointed in the same direction.
@911NeverForget - Your assertion that ALL security cameras behave the same way is false. I know for a fact that my place of work and many others have security cameras that record digitally or by tape at high frame rates. Note: I don't work at Wal-Mart, lol.
most security cameras are the typical frame, pause, frame, pause animation. a 500 MPH plane, no matter how quick that animation is, will make things really hard to see.
@911NeverForget - So now you went from ALL to MOST. Well.. I'm more in agreement with that however I'm still suspect that the Pentagon would have the slow frame rate camera setting when they have so many financial resources. Money literally is not an issue with the Pentagon... at all.
ALL security cams being SIMILAR to each other in overall terms.
MOST security cams have the same animation.
and besides, money not being a problem =/= they'll want expensive cameras. you can get things even with cheap security cams too. its just harder to tell.
in any case, they released all the cams that caught the plane.
@911NeverForget - "all security cameras act the same way." where is the word SIMILAR or MOST?
And yes, I'm assuming that the Pentagon would have better cameras since my work has 10 hi-fi cameras recording all the time and they have no problems.
And yes the FBI released footage from a hotel and a gas station cam, both showing us nothing. There is nothing in any of the videos showing us that it was a plane or a missle or Jack the Ripper.
"ALL security cams being SIMILAR to each other in overall terms."
see the word ALL in caps? re-read next time.
one problem, your work isnt the Pentagon.
they DID show something. just not as much as the Pentagon cam. the hotel cam has a brief two seconds where the plane can be seen flying behind the bridge, being visable for that time frame...then smoke can be seen blowing up shortly afterwards. the Citgo cam shows a brief flash seen for a second in one of the angles seen.
@911NeverForget - Excuse me but I quoted your original post where you stated that all security cameras act the same. Then when you changed it to 'most' security cameras, I pointed out that you changed your mind. It's pretty basic and anyone here can read it for themselves.
And you see a plane on the Hotel cam? That is highly arguable given the video I've seen. In fact I don't see anything but cars and trucks zooming by on the highway and then an explosion. Seriously.
@911NeverForget - Actually I noticed that you changed your mind blatantly and cannot admit it because you play Devils Advocate to everything I say. Furthermore I've watched the videos and it illustrates my point about the grainy videos. There's nothing close to conclusive at all. And that's very strange.
*facepalm* and you make baseless assumptions despite all the clarification i make.
its not strange when they're security cameras. even without the video, body parts were found. plane debris was also found and pictures exist. the black boxes were found. they found other evidence suggesting a plane. theres the conclusive evidence. cherry picking on just the videos is not what one should do.
im wasting my time with you. we're going around in circles and now you're not taking what im saying seriously. i clearly explained how i didnt change my mind but you just dismiss it and assume that playing Devils Advocate is what im really doing when its not. thats what's you're doing.
@911NeverForget You're wasting you're time being on youtube. You're trying to make a point, but you refuse to help people understand what you're saying. Ive tried watching your videos, and quite frankly, they're shit. They explain nothing. All you are doing is regurgitating the same shit that the US government and media shit out. you're a fucking shill, and you're beginning to piss me off with the way you treat people on here.
@911NeverForget You didn't answer any questions really, you simply said, yes they did, yes there was, anyone could do that and yet where is the photographic evidence? Because the pictures I've seen make it look like a joke and do not support any claims that there were pieces belonging to the boeing or any other large plane really. Also since when are wings that fragile? Why would they be? Explain please. Also I've seen other plane crashes with large planes and it leaves a ton of garbage.
And if you needed help moving I'd show up with a truck.
It's nothing we were talking about but I just found this. telegraph*co*uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/1341391/Revealed-the-men-with-stolen-identities*html
That's what was talking about too. That was a quote from British foreign Secretary Robin Cook talking to the house of commons explaining the history of Al Qaeda and how it is the property of western intelligence agencies. He was there. Proof? This site doesn't allow posted links. Look it up. I'm starting to think many people are affected by willful ignorance. And there is exploded AND un-exploded nano-thermite. Everywhere. I notice you've avoided that discovery because it doesn't fit.
"This site doesn't allow posted links" yes it does. i just posted one. you have to tweak it a bit by replacing the periods with asterisks.
"Look it up." no. now that you know how to get links posted, give the link.
i havent avoided it. its been addressed time and time again and guess what? it wasnt there on 9/11, and even if it was, its not used for controlled demolitions anyway.
"In Arabic, the files were called, 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' and 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic 'Q eidat ilmu'ti'aat' which is the exact translation of the English word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the Arabic word for "base."
Titanium engines couldn't survive the impact but the terrorists id made it through the crash.... just a little singed. In fact that was a common theme with all 4 crashes that day.
During the Moussaoui trail the FBI said the Barbara Olsen phone calls never happened.
Everybody watch Loose Change and ask questions on anything that doesn't make sense.
The laws of physics were still in full effect on September 11th 2001.
Al-Queada was and still is a CIA asset used to stir up trouble. The database.
"...the terrorists id made it through the crash " and if it didnt survive, you'd ask why nothing did.
"During the Moussaoui trail the FBI said the Barbara Olsen phone calls never happened." proof?
"Everybody watch Loose Change" already did and find it BS. how about doing your own research instead of letting some liars who made a phony program tell you what happened.
"...trouble" no, they werent.
and the name doesnt translate into the database. it transforms into, simply, the base.
I'm assuming you mean Hani Hanjour, the supposed hijacker/pilot? Apparently, you're not too familiar with the "official" lie that is the 9/11 Omission report. The report specifically states that the plane flew over the Pentagon and then executed a 330 degree turn. Please get your facts straight before posting.
Also, you did not address my question as to why there is no damage to the Pentagon consistent with the impact of a 757. Could it be because it was a missile?
Can you provide a quote from the 9-11 commission? The Doc I have is the NTSB one.
btw, you're way off course when you say the damage 'is not consistent with the impact of a 757'. Hundreds of witnesses saw it crash into the pentagon that day, and also the Flight Data Recorder was salvaged.
Please get your facts straight. It's very annoying to see this constant wrong info posted over and over.
I think you're right. There's at least 3 types of truthers:
1) deniers who don't accept any evidence that undermines their myths.
2) belligerents who explode with anger and can't discuss rationally
3) myth-jumpers who race from one allegation to another as if everything was tied together somehow. These types are interesting in their cognitive dissonance - a mountain of other evidence can be ignored if there is ONE anomaly.
the people who talk like that are ones who have good vocabulary.
its not alien's fault that you dont know what it means...not like it helps your point anyway, because nitpicking over two words out of one whole comment isnt a good thing, no question about it.
The most interesting ones to me right now (of the intelligent kind) are the ones who choose either the Jones 'thermite' camp or the Judy Wood/Fetzer DEW theory.
Each group accuses the other of being disinfo agents, and each cult thinks it's correct and the other wrong.
It's so f'ing weird. IMHO both cults are mostly incorrect in their conclusions for different reasons. What's similar is the emotional need to believe in conspiracy.
OK, I got the page on the 9-11 commission report (which I just happen to have a pdf of right here!) Page 26
'At 9:34....American 77 was then 5 miles west-southwest of the pentagon and began a 330-degree turn. At the end of the trun, it was descending through 2,200 feet, pointed toward the Pentagon and downtown Washington.'
Etc....
So your statement 'The report specifically states' is wrong. That's not what it says at all.
This is pretty much par for the course when dealing with 9-11 truthers. They rely on spotty knowledge, some of it just plain inaccurate nonsense they got off some youtube video or truther website, but they don't bother to check the actual record.
Thus they keep repeating fundamental errors again and again.
I have the pdf's flt 77 data recorder as well. I guarantee you it shows just exactly what you'd expect - and it ain't pretty. Airspeed increases, altitude drops, then boom...it zeros out.
It wasn't a missile or a plane that hit the Pentagon people!
It was Karl Rove.
Rove sniffed a whole bottle of glue and drove a '74 Gremlin filled with explosives into the Pentagon. I have the FACTS (and the charred Gremlin bumper).
Karl Rove is DEAD!
The guy we see now is Karl Roves evil twin brother, Lrak Rove.
First, it is impossible to fly a plane that level, that low. Especially a plane that big.
Witnesses say it hit the ground and skidded into the pentagon. Pictures of the crash showed the grass was just fine. Where did it hit the ground and skid?
Look for some pictures of where the plane hit the pentagon. Then look at a picture of that type of aircraft. Then think... if THAT kind of plane was THAT low, the engines would have been digging into the ground making this impossible.
"it is impossible to fly a plane that level, that low"
No, it's not impossible.
Missile 0% Plane 100%
Zoomie has the same problem as the rest of the conspiracy theorists. They're just not very intelligent or mature. Much like small children, they have no ability to weigh information, and they let their ignorance and paranoia swallow them.
Do a google search for a boeing 757. Your problem is your stupid. The engines do connect to the wings, but the wings connect to the aircraft towards the bottom of the aircraft. Hence, the engines hang down lower than the plane.
Google a picture of a boeing 757 and you will see a ton of pictures showing the wings hanging down a lot farther than the bottom of the aircraft.
This argument sorta reminds me of the OJ Simpson stuff that happened years ago. Everyone knows he did it, just like everyone knows the government bombed the pentagon. But OJ was not guilty, and dumb people like you actually believe a plane hit the pentagon.
I could probably hold up an apple and tell you its an orange, and your dumb enough to believe its an orange.
the gap in the picture is only 18 feet. if indeed a boeing 757 hit the pentagon, it would result in total destruction. unless the left wing is clipped it would have rolled 90 degrees to the left in a knife edge. oh what about that untouched passport of one of the hijackers found at the pentagon
According to the official 9/11 report, flight 77 flew OVER the Pentagon, executed a 330 degree turn, and then crashed into an area of the Pentagon that had recently finished a renovation to strengthen its facade. I have yet to read one "witness" statement that corroborates this account. All the "witness" statements contradict this account. Why the discrepancies? Why the lies? Why no video evidence supporting a jet liner? THINK!
If you were giving a statement about such an event, wouldn't you give ALL the details of what you saw? You're telling me that ALL of the witnesses only saw the final seconds? None of them saw the alleged fly over? Why do neither of the videos released show clearly a 757 impacting the Pentagon? Why is there no damage consistent with the impact of such a jet liner? The Pentagon is the largest office building in the world, and the center of the US military. Why no clear visual evidence?
they DID give all the details of what they saw because again, they only saw the final seconds.
one bonus fact: he didn't do it after reaching the Pentagon. he did it before as NTSB showed. not only that, but the manuver was executed at 8,000 and completed at 2,000, somewhat too high for a lot of witnesses to take notice.
they're security cameras with low quality and frame rates.
there IS. PLENTY of it: rense*com/general32/phot*htm
According to NTSB DCA01MA064 which was part of the 9-11 commission report, the flight path was not over the Pentagon prior to the 330 degree turn.
Just google the doc and you can go down to page 5, which gives a closeup of the route.. Pilot performs loop starting at about 7000 ft at 9:34am, 3.5 miles out, and at end of loop is at about 2000 ft and 4 miles southwest of pentagon. Impact was about 530 mph at 9:37:45am.
maby they were just unlucky ppl that took that flight so they gatherd up all the ppl telling them to move to a different termanal and killed them sepratly
then if thats the case people wouldve heard a bunch of shots from there. you guys have NO proof of this either. if you guys claim that its so obvious that 9/11 was an inside job, you shouldnt be speculating about anything.
If theres more evidence to the Pentagon strike, y are we spendin time watchin the Pentagon smoke?Tht isen't even proof at all tht a plane hit the pentagon... If it did y did the Governmwent release tht video edited?? ONLY FRAMES!!! & there was about 48 cameras lookin at the Pentagon wen the plane hit. Y dosen't the Governemnt release those videos & prove Al Queada had something to do wit 9/11??Instead they hide tht so called fact.
There makin themselves look bad & innocent at the same time.
"isen't even proof at all tht a plane hit the pentagon..." it isnt proof at all of a missile either.
"If it did y did the Governmwent release tht video edited??" where's the proof that its been edited?
"there was about 48 cameras lookin at the Pentagon wen the plane hit." and only 3 captured anything that wouldve needed to be released for...and they got released.
cuz the govermemnt did this shit and all the amirican worry about stpid shit and pay no mind about important things as americans ya shold be demanding a explanation about what really happens and putting bush administration behind bars
There was a small dust trail. And there was a small object that clearly was moving in the direction of the pentagon one frame before the explosion. If that's a plane well than say hello to the worlds smallest commercial airliner. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to realize what's going on in this video. There is no valid argument against that being a missile. That looks nothing like what hit the WTC. Common! Wake up!
You say theres so much evidence from pictures and videos taken by bystanders of the plane coming in. Where are they? And where do you see any evidence of a plane in this 5 frame video? And where the hell are all the serveilance videos that the government confiscated? You tell us to look at the facts but you should take some of your own advice...
"...theres so much evidence from pictures and videos taken by bystanders of the plane coming in. Where are they?"
911myths*com/html/757_wreckage*html
"where do you see any evidence of a plane in this 5 frame video?" you cannot reach any conclusions due to this video. it is simply too blurry to do so.
"...confiscated?" everything has pretty much come out. anything that has NOT wouldnt show anything.
"...advice..." ive done my own advice. i doubt youve done my advice though.
who are tarroist did you know your stereotyping muslims when you say that
isnt bush a tarroist with the war hes caused or wasnt hitler was the tarroist or world war 2 i say us white people are the biggest tarroist out there and because im white that make me a tarroist
but you cant call anyone from the muslim religion tarroist because us white people do things alot worst then any other race
After scanning a few of this retard's deliberately lying videos, I think his estimated DBI of 50 is likely too low. What do some of you folks think? See my channel homepage and post your opinion in the Comments section.
LOL, this StopThe911Lies and NaziFucksDenyTruth usernames are by the same person. Look in their profile, they both last signed in 2 weeks ago, and they made comments on this video 2 weeks ago. the 9/11 Truther are Multiplaying! one idiot at a time. there is no "Truth" to 9/11, but there is terrorism
wow, are 43.4% of the whole country just fucking crazy? hey 911NeverForget, don't worry about these comments, i have a hunch that they're all being made by the same person, who for some reason has all the time in the world to go and make these different usernames
Only 43.4%? No wonder america is fucked. And 911NeverForget, you manages to debunk yourself on every subject, and you don't even notice it. This video has no proof of any plane. Your videos are only working against your credibility. If you want to spread your propaganda, at least try to make it believable. You say there was a plane, but there is not a plane in the entire video. You can do better, counting on you.
You use the very proof that is used against your view, without showing more than an explosion in slo-mo. Maybe not debunking yourself, but definitely no proof.
To say that I am whong about your credibility is something you can't have an oppinion of. That is like saying: I never lie. There is no way to know if that is credible.
Maybe this is not meant to be propaganda, but it works the same way. Enhancing a lie.
Is the plane the small white object the frame before the explosion? Tiny
"You use the very proof that is used against your view, without showing more than an explosion in slo-mo." wouldve been nice if you saw my other vids. i do that stuff elsewhere. im just showing video clips of what happened on 9/11. i did not intend to debunk anything in this vid.
"Is the plane the small white object the frame before the explosion?" no, thats the smoke coming out of its exhaust. its the object thats right in front of it.
there was a poll on September 9, 2006 in NYC. 43.4% of NYC believe the 9/11 attacks were planned, and they intentionally failed to act. that's normal of course, because the human being is trained to be skeptical of anything, and never to trust anyone. we SHOULD be skeptical of the government, but we shouldn't make shit up. in the case of Loose Change, Dylan Avery states that the fire melted the steel. NORAD never stated this, NORAD stated that the steel was WEAKENED to the point of fatigue
"43.4% of NYC believe the 9/11 attacks were planned, and they intentionally failed to act." which is very likely to have been misleading.
"in the case of Loose Change, Dylan Avery states that the fire melted the steel." and you trust a college drop out more than experts? the experts arent agreeing with him, but with the steel weakening.
OOPS I won't have long on here, for those who don't already know, THIS JACKASS ROUTINELY CENSORS HIS POSTS and will likely soon block me. He can't defend his positions so the only thing left is to try to limit the damage to his credibility that would otherwise happen if he allowed uncensored speech. THIS IS NAZIISM IN ACTION FOLKS, BY WHATEVER NAME YOU WANT TO CALL IT, "NEOCONSERVATISM" SAY. This is how it unfolds before your eyes, watch some of this clown's dissembling videos & you'll see.
BTW its ironic you say that considering your friends do exactly that.
just more proof that anyone on the opposing side who does something gets ridiculed for it while those on the side of CTists/truthers/etc. get praised and have no problem with it.
They'd like you to disbelieve the evidence and will lie and deny and distract for as long as you're willing to try to talk any sense into them. I used to wonder in my youth how the Nazi atrocities could have ever been allowed to happen, why didn't people stop it far sooner? But now I see it happening again, undeniably so in the form of torture and attacks upon habeas corpus etc. etc. and I observe the agents of today's Fascism working full time like this piece of human garbage 911NeverForget.
I agree completely, but I think he's making hell of a case FOR the conspiracy theories. His videos defy all human logic. So, is 911NeverForget a human? If human means to be in control of ones own mind, then NO. He has buyed in to all the crap he's been fed by media. And now he desperately tries to hold on to his illusion, that USA is great and it's leaders are there for the people. He is the kind of person who would never admit he was wrong, because the oppinion isn't his.
"Newspaper, is that more accurate than media?" i dont read the newspaper, but i DID save the newspapers that occured following 9/11. ive never read them though.
"What your aggenda is I don't know." i do work, and i do have a life. i just have a little more free time than the average person.
Esko you're right, this character's videos are not only lame and stupid, but what's most amusing is he doesn't seem to realize that he is actually adding to the case for 9/11 being an inside job by his inability to show any coherent logic or facts that would support his position! He lies and denies things that are demonstrably true, he invests a lot of time in namecalling, he winds up making a strong case that the coverup of 9/11 is continuing and he is likely part of it! He should continue!
"this character's videos are not only lame and stupid" yawn.
"he doesn't seem to realize that he is actually adding to the case for 9/11 being an inside job by his inability to show any coherent logic or facts that would support his position" another Mr. Denial.
"He lies and denies things that are demonstrably true" wrong.
"he invests a lot of time in namecalling" wrong again.
"he is likely part of it!" because, god forbid, anyone who disagrees with you is "in on it".
Everyone can see for themselves what a LIAR you are.
Whether deliberately or stupidly, you are aiding the real perpetrators of 9/11, but your efforts are failing because well over half of all Americans (80%+?) now realize Bush and Cheney had something to do with 9/11.
YOUR PROPAGANDA EFFORTS ARE NOT WORKING, PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU THINK.
I belive a missle hit the petagon in my heart cause think of how big a 757 plane is wont it have torn more of the buildin up other then just a small peice seriously if u watch closly it is way to small to be 757 in plane veiw no matter what it would have been seen right i mean that as good as a pic ull get but why wont the feds realeasse video that a resturant holds why did they convsgate the video from the resturant? i belive the george bush is in it some how in my eyes
DON'T FORGET TO FLAG THIS LYING SHILL'S VIDEOS AS SPAM AND RATE THEM LOW LOW LOW, EVERYBODY!
REALIZE this lying shill "911NeverForget" (one of several aliases) is and has been criminally involved in the 9/11 mass murders that killed nearly 3,000 of your countrymen, murders plotted by Bush and Cheney to justify their war in Iraq -- which is exactly what happened and what is now going on. They had MOTIVE, they had OPPORTUNITY, and they too are lying fucking psychopaths like 911NeverForget.
Idiot lying shill '911NeverForget', you can block your accounts from receiving the truth but you won't do any good. Don't you know that 85% of the American population already doesn't believe the official conspiracy theory that you're trying to help maintain for the real 9/11 mass murderers? OF COURSE YOU DO but what choice do you have? You can't stop working the coverup now because you're part of it, you go down when the main players do.
Oh I hope they keep the death penalty for treason.
A) A few LYING right-wing losers like the author of this video who go to AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK trying to maintain the 9/11 coverup to protect the real mass murderers?
B) HUNDREDS of professional architects, engineers, physicists and other scientists, pilots, and educated people of all types, NOW including 7 CIA veterans! See my profile for details...
shouldn't we see a giant 757 in this clip. i didn't see one. i didn't see a missile(or missle as you spelled it) either. so im not sure what hit, but is was not a 757. this proves jack sh:t. nice try douche
the clip is very blurry and its frame quality is terrible, which makes the plane look smaller. yes, there is a plane that appears quickly, which is why you didnt see it. look on the right hand side of the video. a white object appears. that is the plane.
Then how come the government won't release any GOOD videos then? How come they gave us shitty videos that show absolutely nothing?!
TheManix45 5 months ago
the majority of plane pieces that you would expect to see (wings, etc) were not there. And many of the pieces that were found dont match a boeng 747, which implies that they were planted at the scene
73HNiNJ4 7 months ago
they were there, and the wings are very fragile.
yes they do. nothing was planted.
911NeverForget 7 months ago
Only one camera hu? right,,,,,,as big as the pentagon is?,,,,,,bull shit
MultiAngel38 10 months ago
there wasnt only one camera and even so not all of them are pointed to where the plane hit.
911NeverForget 10 months ago
What about the two engines that weigh 6tons of titanium steal? Where are those pieces of the plane?...
11TheBaby11 1 year ago
pieces of them were found.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
"the facts". if they were indeed facts then why are there so many physicists and archetects and engineers who work INDEPENDENTLY and not for the gov (NIST) who are contrary to the beliefs of the official report? you probably didn't know since you probably get your news from fox or nbc or cnn, that the chair and vice chair of the 9/11 comish wrote a book detailing the accounts of fbi and cia agents obstructing the investigation and telling them not "dig too deep"? i'm just a nut what do i know?
AQT187 1 year ago
no they arent contrary.
my views have nothing to do with the media.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
tell me where the hell the plane is? i dont see ANY evidence of a huge boeing aircraft. and i don't think those 37,400lbs engines are so fragile that they would vaporize. again, a 17-20ft entrance hole in the pentagon with no evidence of wing or engine damage. wishful thinking. i know you wish to believe our gov. is always honest and looking out for our intrests. they would never do anything to hurt its civilians to accomplish its agenda. OPERATION NORTHWOODS, a REAL PROVEN gov document
AQT187 1 year ago
This video proves to me beyond the shadow of a doubt that this was not a plane. The explosion occurs here at the immediate point of impact, which was not the case when the planes hit the twin towers. It wasn't until the plane struck somewhere near the center core of the towers that they exploded. The object that appears at :43 is far to slim, and doesn't appear long enough to be a plane, at least commercial. Also, after the explosion, a white streak of smoke is still visible.
LiCeNSeD6To9KiLL 2 years ago
"The explosion occurs here at the immediate point of impact, which was not the case when the planes hit the twin towers" dude, the video quality and frame rate of the security cam is so bad you dont actually see what happened when the plane immediately hit the building.
again, its the bad video quality and terrible frame rate. do you not see those?
911NeverForget 2 years ago
@911NeverForget No we do. Which proves out point that these videos are made up for you to "believe" in the hoax.
I see no plane. If your eyes see a plane its wishfull thinking. So as to say that the video is so bad you cant make anything out, its got to be a plane, is not reasonable thinking. Sheeple. You mean to tell me our Pentagon has super cheap security cameras???
Omegatide 2 years ago
'No we do." no you dont. you all constantly act like you know all, see all, hear all, sense all, etc.
"Which proves out point that these videos are made up for you to "believe" in the hoax." no. it doesnt.
"If your eyes see a plane its wishfull thinking. So as to say that the video is so bad you cant make anything out, its got to be a plane, is not reasonable thinking." what the hell are you talking about? where do i base it being a plane on that security cam.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
"Sheeple." this insult never works.
"You mean to tell me our Pentagon has super cheap security cameras???" security cameras are commonly found like this. it doesnt mean they're super cheap.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
@911NeverForget Not cheap? A frickin huge commercial airliner crashes in the Pentagon and you cant even use the video to base your claim that AN AIRLINER crashed into the pentagon!!
Thats a shitty video camera. what is the world is it supposed to do?
'No we do." no you dont. you all constantly act like you know all, see all, hear all, sense all, etc." Isnt that what you do?
And your lame two word 3 year old answers are lame at best. Sheeple.
Omegatide 2 years ago
"A frickin huge commercial airliner crashes in the Pentagon and you cant even use the video to base your claim that AN AIRLINER crashed into the pentagon!!" you make it sound like the video's the only thing out there.
"Thats a shitty video camera. what is the world is it supposed to do?" if the plane weren't moving at 500 MPH it probably wouldve been more visable. have you remembered that? the camera is not at complete fault here.
"Isnt that what you do?" uh no.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
"And your lame two word 3 year old answers are lame at best." yet you do just that with saying just ONE word, "sheeple", in every comment.
you'll never see how much of an idiot you're acting right now.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
@911NeverForget Here you are again, using what you've been told as facts. I let my eyes discover the facts. That aint no plane. No plane in front of the Pentagon.
So at 500 mph the two engines on the 757 made no damage to the building before it collapsed. Hmm makes you wonder eh? Like thats impossible, unless a plane never hit the Pentagon. Gee thats really hard to figure out....
Omegatide 1 year ago
i criticize something you did and state how you'll never see your idiocy. how is that using something ive been told as facts? that makes absolutely no sense.
the engines are fragile, thats why. i know i told you that before.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
@911NeverForget - Actually the grainy piece of trash video indicates that the camera was made of toaster parts or something. Sure, you can lower any nice camera's fps to 1 per second or whatever, however the video looks like trash. It's highly suspicious that the Pentagon would be using that bad of a camera. Furthermore there are other camera's mounted on the building that would have caught something. But we see nothing of those.
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
all security cameras act the same way. its not suspicious at all. just because its the Pentagon doesnt mean they're going to have $10,000 cameras all over the place.
and they released all cameras that caught the impact when it happened. three were released. the cameras are not all going to be pointed in the same direction.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
@911NeverForget - Your assertion that ALL security cameras behave the same way is false. I know for a fact that my place of work and many others have security cameras that record digitally or by tape at high frame rates. Note: I don't work at Wal-Mart, lol.
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
most security cameras are the typical frame, pause, frame, pause animation. a 500 MPH plane, no matter how quick that animation is, will make things really hard to see.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
@911NeverForget - So now you went from ALL to MOST. Well.. I'm more in agreement with that however I'm still suspect that the Pentagon would have the slow frame rate camera setting when they have so many financial resources. Money literally is not an issue with the Pentagon... at all.
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
ALL security cams being SIMILAR to each other in overall terms.
MOST security cams have the same animation.
and besides, money not being a problem =/= they'll want expensive cameras. you can get things even with cheap security cams too. its just harder to tell.
in any case, they released all the cams that caught the plane.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
@911NeverForget - "all security cameras act the same way." where is the word SIMILAR or MOST?
And yes, I'm assuming that the Pentagon would have better cameras since my work has 10 hi-fi cameras recording all the time and they have no problems.
And yes the FBI released footage from a hotel and a gas station cam, both showing us nothing. There is nothing in any of the videos showing us that it was a plane or a missle or Jack the Ripper.
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
"ALL security cams being SIMILAR to each other in overall terms."
see the word ALL in caps? re-read next time.
one problem, your work isnt the Pentagon.
they DID show something. just not as much as the Pentagon cam. the hotel cam has a brief two seconds where the plane can be seen flying behind the bridge, being visable for that time frame...then smoke can be seen blowing up shortly afterwards. the Citgo cam shows a brief flash seen for a second in one of the angles seen.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
@911NeverForget - Excuse me but I quoted your original post where you stated that all security cameras act the same. Then when you changed it to 'most' security cameras, I pointed out that you changed your mind. It's pretty basic and anyone here can read it for themselves.
And you see a plane on the Hotel cam? That is highly arguable given the video I've seen. In fact I don't see anything but cars and trucks zooming by on the highway and then an explosion. Seriously.
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
and i got more specific with what i meant with that, something you didnt notice.
you have to look in the right area. its not highly arguable.
/watch?v=WPIdDLwcATA
as soon as the vid starts, watch the pitch black area in the top left corner. you'll see a faint white object followed by smoke.
/watch?v=Dpj8nPDwPHM
look at the bigger cam angle in the top right corner. at the 4 second mark is the flash.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
@911NeverForget - Actually I noticed that you changed your mind blatantly and cannot admit it because you play Devils Advocate to everything I say. Furthermore I've watched the videos and it illustrates my point about the grainy videos. There's nothing close to conclusive at all. And that's very strange.
MassacreBlast 1 year ago
*facepalm* and you make baseless assumptions despite all the clarification i make.
its not strange when they're security cameras. even without the video, body parts were found. plane debris was also found and pictures exist. the black boxes were found. they found other evidence suggesting a plane. theres the conclusive evidence. cherry picking on just the videos is not what one should do.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
im wasting my time with you. we're going around in circles and now you're not taking what im saying seriously. i clearly explained how i didnt change my mind but you just dismiss it and assume that playing Devils Advocate is what im really doing when its not. thats what's you're doing.
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911NeverForget 1 year ago
@911NeverForget You're wasting you're time being on youtube. You're trying to make a point, but you refuse to help people understand what you're saying. Ive tried watching your videos, and quite frankly, they're shit. They explain nothing. All you are doing is regurgitating the same shit that the US government and media shit out. you're a fucking shill, and you're beginning to piss me off with the way you treat people on here.
overduerevolution 1 year ago
how have i treated anyone bad? YOU are the dumbass that doesn't get it when i say "i answered all your questions and you wont listen".
like i said. grow up.
911NeverForget 1 year ago
@911NeverForget You didn't answer any questions really, you simply said, yes they did, yes there was, anyone could do that and yet where is the photographic evidence? Because the pictures I've seen make it look like a joke and do not support any claims that there were pieces belonging to the boeing or any other large plane really. Also since when are wings that fragile? Why would they be? Explain please. Also I've seen other plane crashes with large planes and it leaves a ton of garbage.
upsidedownface1000 3 weeks ago
@911NeverForget bullshit
overduerevolution 1 year ago
And there it is again. It's a bit of a pain but you just gotta make sure it's not like that in the address bar.
I seem to remember being able to post links on youtube.
assgrabberb 2 years ago
it wasnt the link itself...mustve been my internet connection or something...
either way, no matter what it translates to, they're quite a threatening presence.
you probably knew how to do what i told you before, but just forgot about it and needed a refreshing...but that theory's just speculation.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
globalresearch*ca/index*php?context=viewArticle&code=BUN20051120&articleId=1291
I think the problem was a space in the word context.
assgrabberb 2 years ago
Not available? Maybe I need more help.
assgrabberb 2 years ago
And if you needed help moving I'd show up with a truck.
It's nothing we were talking about but I just found this. telegraph*co*uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/saudiarabia/1341391/Revealed-the-men-with-stolen-identities*html
assgrabberb 2 years ago
That worked!!
Thanks man!
It just goes to show that even though we disagree we can still come together and blah blah blah, rousing emotional pep talk.... the end.
assgrabberb 2 years ago
well, i dont care what side you're on. if you need help publishing links, ill help you. thats how generous i am.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
globalresearch*ca/index*php?context=viewArticle&code=BUN20051120&articleId=1291
assgrabberb 2 years ago
article not available.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
That's what was talking about too. That was a quote from British foreign Secretary Robin Cook talking to the house of commons explaining the history of Al Qaeda and how it is the property of western intelligence agencies. He was there. Proof? This site doesn't allow posted links. Look it up. I'm starting to think many people are affected by willful ignorance. And there is exploded AND un-exploded nano-thermite. Everywhere. I notice you've avoided that discovery because it doesn't fit.
assgrabberb 2 years ago
"This site doesn't allow posted links" yes it does. i just posted one. you have to tweak it a bit by replacing the periods with asterisks.
"Look it up." no. now that you know how to get links posted, give the link.
i havent avoided it. its been addressed time and time again and guess what? it wasnt there on 9/11, and even if it was, its not used for controlled demolitions anyway.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
"In Arabic, the files were called, 'Q eidat il-Maaloomaat' and 'Q eidat i-Taaleemaat.' Those two files were kept in one file called in Arabic 'Q eidat ilmu'ti'aat' which is the exact translation of the English word database. But the Arabs commonly used the short word Al Qaida which is the Arabic word for "base."
assgrabberb 2 years ago
i was talking about the name for Al Qaeda.
if they dont use the actual name that translates to database, then thats not what Al Qaeda means.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
Thanks for sharing this 911neverforget
I'm trying to figure out what is coming from the left at about the 137 mark then what appears to be a pole erected? Thanks
ontime34 2 years ago
Titanium engines couldn't survive the impact but the terrorists id made it through the crash.... just a little singed. In fact that was a common theme with all 4 crashes that day.
During the Moussaoui trail the FBI said the Barbara Olsen phone calls never happened.
Everybody watch Loose Change and ask questions on anything that doesn't make sense.
The laws of physics were still in full effect on September 11th 2001.
Al-Queada was and still is a CIA asset used to stir up trouble. The database.
assgrabberb 2 years ago
"...the terrorists id made it through the crash " and if it didnt survive, you'd ask why nothing did.
"During the Moussaoui trail the FBI said the Barbara Olsen phone calls never happened." proof?
"Everybody watch Loose Change" already did and find it BS. how about doing your own research instead of letting some liars who made a phony program tell you what happened.
"...trouble" no, they werent.
and the name doesnt translate into the database. it transforms into, simply, the base.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
0:45 you can see the tip of the tail of the plane
5225bob 2 years ago
WATCH lloyd england & his taxi cab
bigc028282 2 years ago
and what would that prove?
911NeverForget 2 years ago
DAMN IT... there is another angle to the event, just a bit to the right.
Weirdo10o4 2 years ago
Who is he?
I'm assuming you mean Hani Hanjour, the supposed hijacker/pilot? Apparently, you're not too familiar with the "official" lie that is the 9/11 Omission report. The report specifically states that the plane flew over the Pentagon and then executed a 330 degree turn. Please get your facts straight before posting.
Also, you did not address my question as to why there is no damage to the Pentagon consistent with the impact of a 757. Could it be because it was a missile?
Tony56841 3 years ago
Can you provide a quote from the 9-11 commission? The Doc I have is the NTSB one.
btw, you're way off course when you say the damage 'is not consistent with the impact of a 757'. Hundreds of witnesses saw it crash into the pentagon that day, and also the Flight Data Recorder was salvaged.
Please get your facts straight. It's very annoying to see this constant wrong info posted over and over.
alienentity 3 years ago
so i guess your gonna call over 130 witnesses wrong then? and how anything else knocjk down a series of lamp posts?
id like a answer insted of typical rambling please
ninjaslayer99 2 years ago
Hi there!
I'm not sure what your response is about. I accept the eyewitnesses who saw the jet fly over and hit the pentagon, clipping lamp posts!
I'm not a truther,
alienentity 2 years ago
i know its directed at them
of course they wouldnt be able to answer and would just call me a name thats hilarious and ramble
ninjaslayer99 2 years ago
I think you're right. There's at least 3 types of truthers:
1) deniers who don't accept any evidence that undermines their myths.
2) belligerents who explode with anger and can't discuss rationally
3) myth-jumpers who race from one allegation to another as if everything was tied together somehow. These types are interesting in their cognitive dissonance - a mountain of other evidence can be ignored if there is ONE anomaly.
No planers typically fit this category.
alienentity 2 years ago 2
lol "cognitive dissonance". Really, who talks like this? Be honest, how long did it take you to compose this comment?
slider8585 2 years ago
the people who talk like that are ones who have good vocabulary.
its not alien's fault that you dont know what it means...not like it helps your point anyway, because nitpicking over two words out of one whole comment isnt a good thing, no question about it.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
Is it a coincidence, or are we both on break from work? You respond way too fast. Are you being payed to debunk truthers?
slider8585 2 years ago
because you keep commenting before i go offline. i always make sure to address all the comments before i go offline.
and no, im not. thats your own paranoia.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
You think I'm paranoid? A bit defensive, are we? Be honest, you were alienentity, correct?
slider8585 2 years ago
im not being defensive, and im not alienentity.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
The most interesting ones to me right now (of the intelligent kind) are the ones who choose either the Jones 'thermite' camp or the Judy Wood/Fetzer DEW theory.
Each group accuses the other of being disinfo agents, and each cult thinks it's correct and the other wrong.
It's so f'ing weird. IMHO both cults are mostly incorrect in their conclusions for different reasons. What's similar is the emotional need to believe in conspiracy.
That's something worth studying further.
alienentity 2 years ago
OK, I got the page on the 9-11 commission report (which I just happen to have a pdf of right here!) Page 26
'At 9:34....American 77 was then 5 miles west-southwest of the pentagon and began a 330-degree turn. At the end of the trun, it was descending through 2,200 feet, pointed toward the Pentagon and downtown Washington.'
Etc....
So your statement 'The report specifically states' is wrong. That's not what it says at all.
Please correct yourself, sir. Thanks
alienentity 3 years ago
This is pretty much par for the course when dealing with 9-11 truthers. They rely on spotty knowledge, some of it just plain inaccurate nonsense they got off some youtube video or truther website, but they don't bother to check the actual record.
Thus they keep repeating fundamental errors again and again.
I have the pdf's flt 77 data recorder as well. I guarantee you it shows just exactly what you'd expect - and it ain't pretty. Airspeed increases, altitude drops, then boom...it zeros out.
alienentity 3 years ago
It wasn't a missile or a plane that hit the Pentagon people!
It was Karl Rove.
Rove sniffed a whole bottle of glue and drove a '74 Gremlin filled with explosives into the Pentagon. I have the FACTS (and the charred Gremlin bumper).
Karl Rove is DEAD!
The guy we see now is Karl Roves evil twin brother, Lrak Rove.
911morontwoofer 2 years ago
First, it is impossible to fly a plane that level, that low. Especially a plane that big.
Witnesses say it hit the ground and skidded into the pentagon. Pictures of the crash showed the grass was just fine. Where did it hit the ground and skid?
Look for some pictures of where the plane hit the pentagon. Then look at a picture of that type of aircraft. Then think... if THAT kind of plane was THAT low, the engines would have been digging into the ground making this impossible.
Missile 100%
zoomie6421 3 years ago
uh, it IS possible.
what witnesses said this?
the engines arent at the VERY bottom of the plane. they're connected on the wings so its easy for them to miss the ground.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
"it is impossible to fly a plane that level, that low"
No, it's not impossible.
Missile 0% Plane 100%
Zoomie has the same problem as the rest of the conspiracy theorists. They're just not very intelligent or mature. Much like small children, they have no ability to weigh information, and they let their ignorance and paranoia swallow them.
KimmoKuopio 3 years ago
Do a google search for a boeing 757. Your problem is your stupid. The engines do connect to the wings, but the wings connect to the aircraft towards the bottom of the aircraft. Hence, the engines hang down lower than the plane.
Google a picture of a boeing 757 and you will see a ton of pictures showing the wings hanging down a lot farther than the bottom of the aircraft.
zoomie6421 3 years ago
again, your insults fail to phase me.
finally, i know where the engines are. however that doesnt mean they hit the ground.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
This argument sorta reminds me of the OJ Simpson stuff that happened years ago. Everyone knows he did it, just like everyone knows the government bombed the pentagon. But OJ was not guilty, and dumb people like you actually believe a plane hit the pentagon.
I could probably hold up an apple and tell you its an orange, and your dumb enough to believe its an orange.
zoomie6421 3 years ago
so instead of addressing my point you insult me more. its official: you wasted my time.
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911NeverForget 3 years ago
the gap in the picture is only 18 feet. if indeed a boeing 757 hit the pentagon, it would result in total destruction. unless the left wing is clipped it would have rolled 90 degrees to the left in a knife edge. oh what about that untouched passport of one of the hijackers found at the pentagon
lukepevensie 2 years ago
it wasnt 18 feet.
the left wing DID clip something.
and an "untouched" passport is just the nitpicky behavior you guys show.
911NeverForget 2 years ago
You're forgetting one major thing:
Hundreds of eyewitnesses saw the plane (quite a few identified it as an AA plane) fly over them and then crash into the pentagon.
Case closed. This is not a point for serious debate anymore.
You can google the passenger list (59 passengers, 6 crew) remember/aa77 and try to imagine what their families think of people like you.
Rumour has it that those people were duct-taped to a global hawk missile....Or maybe it was aliens...yeah, that's it!!
alienentity 3 years ago
alien....you're forgetting one major thing!
According to the official 9/11 report, flight 77 flew OVER the Pentagon, executed a 330 degree turn, and then crashed into an area of the Pentagon that had recently finished a renovation to strengthen its facade. I have yet to read one "witness" statement that corroborates this account. All the "witness" statements contradict this account. Why the discrepancies? Why the lies? Why no video evidence supporting a jet liner? THINK!
Tony56841 3 years ago
they all only tell of its last moments. thats why they dont mention it.
they dont contradict.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
If you were giving a statement about such an event, wouldn't you give ALL the details of what you saw? You're telling me that ALL of the witnesses only saw the final seconds? None of them saw the alleged fly over? Why do neither of the videos released show clearly a 757 impacting the Pentagon? Why is there no damage consistent with the impact of such a jet liner? The Pentagon is the largest office building in the world, and the center of the US military. Why no clear visual evidence?
Tony56841 3 years ago
they DID give all the details of what they saw because again, they only saw the final seconds.
one bonus fact: he didn't do it after reaching the Pentagon. he did it before as NTSB showed. not only that, but the manuver was executed at 8,000 and completed at 2,000, somewhat too high for a lot of witnesses to take notice.
they're security cameras with low quality and frame rates.
there IS. PLENTY of it: rense*com/general32/phot*htm
not every camera was trained on that one section.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
According to NTSB DCA01MA064 which was part of the 9-11 commission report, the flight path was not over the Pentagon prior to the 330 degree turn.
Just google the doc and you can go down to page 5, which gives a closeup of the route.. Pilot performs loop starting at about 7000 ft at 9:34am, 3.5 miles out, and at end of loop is at about 2000 ft and 4 miles southwest of pentagon. Impact was about 530 mph at 9:37:45am.
Where's the lie? I don't see one.
alienentity 3 years ago
Don't feel bad 911. I've already had my share of Truther responces like: Fuck off, shill ect. ect. ect.
Truthers are such whiney bitches. Aren't they though for real?
WhyAskQuestions 3 years ago
oh i dont feel bad, im actually laughing at stupid responses like the ones we both get.
and yes, they are just that.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
Of course they're stupid 911. They have no brains and they're retarded. Maybe they need 2 get on SSI or something.
WhyAskQuestions 3 years ago
agreed.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
Watch 911 TABOO on here
in it a man by the Name of Joe Keith , a retired Aerospace and Boeing engineer states why he feels that 911 absolutely was an inside Job !
Only a total moron would believe the Official Govt story, its made for children, Not intelligent independent objective Adults
RawVegan0 3 years ago
You mean what you believe in is: "made for children, Not intelligent independent objective Adults"
You can't prove that 9/11 was a "Inside Job". No one in history can prove that it was because they lack evidence.
Have you ever go to court for something and they produced evidence to put your ass in jail for a while?
Same thing!
WhyAskQuestions 3 years ago
i know someones dad who was on that flight who is no longer alive explain that one you fucking retards
bryanaparis 3 years ago
maby they were just unlucky ppl that took that flight so they gatherd up all the ppl telling them to move to a different termanal and killed them sepratly
That1Fan 3 years ago
then if thats the case people wouldve heard a bunch of shots from there. you guys have NO proof of this either. if you guys claim that its so obvious that 9/11 was an inside job, you shouldnt be speculating about anything.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
your dumb get a fucking life
bryanaparis 3 years ago
If theres more evidence to the Pentagon strike, y are we spendin time watchin the Pentagon smoke?Tht isen't even proof at all tht a plane hit the pentagon... If it did y did the Governmwent release tht video edited?? ONLY FRAMES!!! & there was about 48 cameras lookin at the Pentagon wen the plane hit. Y dosen't the Governemnt release those videos & prove Al Queada had something to do wit 9/11??Instead they hide tht so called fact.
There makin themselves look bad & innocent at the same time.
DDPPDP 3 years ago
"isen't even proof at all tht a plane hit the pentagon..." it isnt proof at all of a missile either.
"If it did y did the Governmwent release tht video edited??" where's the proof that its been edited?
"there was about 48 cameras lookin at the Pentagon wen the plane hit." and only 3 captured anything that wouldve needed to be released for...and they got released.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
cuz the govermemnt did this shit and all the amirican worry about stpid shit and pay no mind about important things as americans ya shold be demanding a explanation about what really happens and putting bush administration behind bars
randudox 3 years ago
there was long than a missile of corse its a plane u dumbasses
IIVIIystery 3 years ago
There was a small dust trail. And there was a small object that clearly was moving in the direction of the pentagon one frame before the explosion. If that's a plane well than say hello to the worlds smallest commercial airliner. It doesn't take a lot of intelligence to realize what's going on in this video. There is no valid argument against that being a missile. That looks nothing like what hit the WTC. Common! Wake up!
Amoxicillinxt 3 years ago
how many more times do i have to say that the security cam is too blurry to make any conclusions?
"There is no valid argument against that being a missile" wrong.
"Wake up!" truther script...not surprised.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
do you have any better insults than "moron"?
911NeverForget 3 years ago
You say theres so much evidence from pictures and videos taken by bystanders of the plane coming in. Where are they? And where do you see any evidence of a plane in this 5 frame video? And where the hell are all the serveilance videos that the government confiscated? You tell us to look at the facts but you should take some of your own advice...
conspiracytruthtube 3 years ago
"...theres so much evidence from pictures and videos taken by bystanders of the plane coming in. Where are they?"
911myths*com/html/757_wreckage*html
"where do you see any evidence of a plane in this 5 frame video?" you cannot reach any conclusions due to this video. it is simply too blurry to do so.
"...confiscated?" everything has pretty much come out. anything that has NOT wouldnt show anything.
"...advice..." ive done my own advice. i doubt youve done my advice though.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
i saw a missle if you paws the video befor the explotion you can see a missle shaped object on the right mid section of the video
420bmxer 3 years ago
its not a missile. really, you cant say what it is at all due to the crappy quality.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
what was that thing because i know a plain is bigger then that ehh
420bmxer 3 years ago
911 was the terroist
kieryndude 3 years ago
911? i assume thats me...
if thats the case, then ill only respond with my typical remark:
yawn.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
who are tarroist did you know your stereotyping muslims when you say that
isnt bush a tarroist with the war hes caused or wasnt hitler was the tarroist or world war 2 i say us white people are the biggest tarroist out there and because im white that make me a tarroist
but you cant call anyone from the muslim religion tarroist because us white people do things alot worst then any other race
420bmxer 3 years ago
"There's lots of evidence of a plane hitting the pentagon" ! Again this agent !
Hey guys we need to spread the word, this guy is the worst secret agent out there !
How can this video (on of the worst) has 6800 views ? Hmmm, how many agents are in America ?
Can someone answer to that ?
911Neverforget is in fact 911forgetitFAST!
secretarul 3 years ago
instead of arguing my point, you make more pathetic insults. hilarious.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
My kerosine stove weakened to the point of failure last night.
webovisionca 3 years ago
did your brain follow suit?
911NeverForget 3 years ago
are we playing poker?
webovisionca 3 years ago
doubt it.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
whatever you say poofball
webovisionca 3 years ago
even i could come up with a better insult than that.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
even a useless piece of dogturd like you could come up with something more insulting.. sure. I believe it.
webovisionca 3 years ago
your insults get you nowhere but in a deeper hole than you're already in.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
deeper and deeping inside your asshole
webovisionca 3 years ago
nope. for you guys its a Do It Yourself activity.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
Yau giys isz a Doo tit yousef acivy
webovisionca 3 years ago
very mature....not.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
amazing vid im totally convinced
cyraxandflyrax 3 years ago
After scanning a few of this retard's deliberately lying videos, I think his estimated DBI of 50 is likely too low. What do some of you folks think? See my channel homepage and post your opinion in the Comments section.
DirtBallindex 3 years ago
"this retard's deliberately lying videos" yawn.
"I think his estimated DBI of 50 is likely too low" wrong.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
I cast darkness to chase you torment, fire, out of control With this hex I curse your soul
cyraxandflyrax 3 years ago
LOL, this StopThe911Lies and NaziFucksDenyTruth usernames are by the same person. Look in their profile, they both last signed in 2 weeks ago, and they made comments on this video 2 weeks ago. the 9/11 Truther are Multiplaying! one idiot at a time. there is no "Truth" to 9/11, but there is terrorism
TheGodKingOfMusic 3 years ago
wow, are 43.4% of the whole country just fucking crazy? hey 911NeverForget, don't worry about these comments, i have a hunch that they're all being made by the same person, who for some reason has all the time in the world to go and make these different usernames
FEARiscool 3 years ago
i dont worry at all. in fact i just laugh at them. ;)
911NeverForget 3 years ago
Only 43.4%? No wonder america is fucked. And 911NeverForget, you manages to debunk yourself on every subject, and you don't even notice it. This video has no proof of any plane. Your videos are only working against your credibility. If you want to spread your propaganda, at least try to make it believable. You say there was a plane, but there is not a plane in the entire video. You can do better, counting on you.
EskolainenKarma 3 years ago
"manages to debunk yourself on every subject" wrong.
"This video has no proof of any plane" yes it does Mr. Denial.
"Your videos are only working against your credibility." wrong again.
"If you want to spread your propaganda" its not propaganda.
"try to make it believable" again Mr. Denial, it is believable.
"there is not a plane in the entire video" wrong again.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
You use the very proof that is used against your view, without showing more than an explosion in slo-mo. Maybe not debunking yourself, but definitely no proof.
To say that I am whong about your credibility is something you can't have an oppinion of. That is like saying: I never lie. There is no way to know if that is credible.
Maybe this is not meant to be propaganda, but it works the same way. Enhancing a lie.
Is the plane the small white object the frame before the explosion? Tiny
EskolainenKarma 3 years ago
"You use the very proof that is used against your view, without showing more than an explosion in slo-mo." wouldve been nice if you saw my other vids. i do that stuff elsewhere. im just showing video clips of what happened on 9/11. i did not intend to debunk anything in this vid.
"Is the plane the small white object the frame before the explosion?" no, thats the smoke coming out of its exhaust. its the object thats right in front of it.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
there was a poll on September 9, 2006 in NYC. 43.4% of NYC believe the 9/11 attacks were planned, and they intentionally failed to act. that's normal of course, because the human being is trained to be skeptical of anything, and never to trust anyone. we SHOULD be skeptical of the government, but we shouldn't make shit up. in the case of Loose Change, Dylan Avery states that the fire melted the steel. NORAD never stated this, NORAD stated that the steel was WEAKENED to the point of fatigue
FEARiscool 3 years ago
"43.4% of NYC believe the 9/11 attacks were planned, and they intentionally failed to act." which is very likely to have been misleading.
"in the case of Loose Change, Dylan Avery states that the fire melted the steel." and you trust a college drop out more than experts? the experts arent agreeing with him, but with the steel weakening.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
OOPS I won't have long on here, for those who don't already know, THIS JACKASS ROUTINELY CENSORS HIS POSTS and will likely soon block me. He can't defend his positions so the only thing left is to try to limit the damage to his credibility that would otherwise happen if he allowed uncensored speech. THIS IS NAZIISM IN ACTION FOLKS, BY WHATEVER NAME YOU WANT TO CALL IT, "NEOCONSERVATISM" SAY. This is how it unfolds before your eyes, watch some of this clown's dissembling videos & you'll see.
NaziFucksDenyTruth 3 years ago
no, i block those such as people like you who cant get it in their thick heads to stop making new accounts just so you can spam my vids.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
BTW its ironic you say that considering your friends do exactly that.
just more proof that anyone on the opposing side who does something gets ridiculed for it while those on the side of CTists/truthers/etc. get praised and have no problem with it.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
They'd like you to disbelieve the evidence and will lie and deny and distract for as long as you're willing to try to talk any sense into them. I used to wonder in my youth how the Nazi atrocities could have ever been allowed to happen, why didn't people stop it far sooner? But now I see it happening again, undeniably so in the form of torture and attacks upon habeas corpus etc. etc. and I observe the agents of today's Fascism working full time like this piece of human garbage 911NeverForget.
NaziFucksDenyTruth 3 years ago
yawn.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
I agree completely, but I think he's making hell of a case FOR the conspiracy theories. His videos defy all human logic. So, is 911NeverForget a human? If human means to be in control of ones own mind, then NO. He has buyed in to all the crap he's been fed by media. And now he desperately tries to hold on to his illusion, that USA is great and it's leaders are there for the people. He is the kind of person who would never admit he was wrong, because the oppinion isn't his.
EskolainenKarma 3 years ago
"he's making hell of a case FOR the conspiracy theories" wrong yet again.
"His videos defy all human logic" wrong.
"is 911NeverForget a human?" i talk like a human, i behave like a human, and i act like a human. i must be a human then.
"He has buyed in to all the crap he's been fed by media." the media hasnt told be anything. i hardly even watch the media.
"he desperately tries to hold on to his illusion" biased assumption.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
Thanks for the quick answer.
It made a strong case for the conspiracy theories FOR ME, because i have heard all of this before, but not in this accept-all-you-hear-context.
The question if you are a human is taken out of context. I followed up with my definition of human. The opposite, for me, is robot.
The same thing about human logic vs robot logic, very different.
Newspaper, is that more accurate than media?
Biased assumption, True. What your aggenda is I don't know.
EskolainenKarma 3 years ago
"Newspaper, is that more accurate than media?" i dont read the newspaper, but i DID save the newspapers that occured following 9/11. ive never read them though.
"What your aggenda is I don't know." i do work, and i do have a life. i just have a little more free time than the average person.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
Esko you're right, this character's videos are not only lame and stupid, but what's most amusing is he doesn't seem to realize that he is actually adding to the case for 9/11 being an inside job by his inability to show any coherent logic or facts that would support his position! He lies and denies things that are demonstrably true, he invests a lot of time in namecalling, he winds up making a strong case that the coverup of 9/11 is continuing and he is likely part of it! He should continue!
JohnMcInexperienced 3 years ago 2
"this character's videos are not only lame and stupid" yawn.
"he doesn't seem to realize that he is actually adding to the case for 9/11 being an inside job by his inability to show any coherent logic or facts that would support his position" another Mr. Denial.
"He lies and denies things that are demonstrably true" wrong.
"he invests a lot of time in namecalling" wrong again.
"he is likely part of it!" because, god forbid, anyone who disagrees with you is "in on it".
911NeverForget 3 years ago
LOL "lame and stupid" = Your Rating
You confuse FACTS with your DENIAL mechanisms.
Everyone can see for themselves what a LIAR you are.
Whether deliberately or stupidly, you are aiding the real perpetrators of 9/11, but your efforts are failing because well over half of all Americans (80%+?) now realize Bush and Cheney had something to do with 9/11.
YOUR PROPAGANDA EFFORTS ARE NOT WORKING, PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU THINK.
DirtBallindex 3 years ago
" "lame and stupid" = Your Rating" talking to yourself i see.
"You confuse FACTS with your DENIAL mechanisms." no, you do.
"Everyone can see for themselves what a LIAR you are." nope, they only see what a fool you're making of yourself.
"...9/11" me disagreeing and showing why doesnt make me aid anyone.
"...9/11." wrong again.
"YOUR PROPAGANDA EFFORTS ARE NOT WORKING" again, no propaganda.
"PEOPLE ARE SMARTER THAN YOU THINK." yes they are, and they know you're being an idiot.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
Damn, I love you man :)
EskolainenKarma 3 years ago
THIS IS A LYING SHILL VIDEO ATTEMPTING TO SUPPORT THE COVERUP FOR THE REAL MASS MURDERERS BUSH AND CHENEY.
Marked as Spam
Rated one star
THE AUTHOR OF THIS VIDEO IS PART OF THE COVERUP AND COMPLICIT IN THE MURDERS. TRACK HIM AND YOU WILL FIND A MONEY TRAIL LEADING TO BUSH AND CHENEY.
StopThe911Lies 3 years ago 3
you just wont cut the crap will you finkle? BTW vids cant be marked as spam, only comments.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
there are airplanes & there are airplanes. thats not an airplane
zuesarica 3 years ago
yeah it is.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
I belive a missle hit the petagon in my heart cause think of how big a 757 plane is wont it have torn more of the buildin up other then just a small peice seriously if u watch closly it is way to small to be 757 in plane veiw no matter what it would have been seen right i mean that as good as a pic ull get but why wont the feds realeasse video that a resturant holds why did they convsgate the video from the resturant? i belive the george bush is in it some how in my eyes
lanky980 3 years ago
the wings had came off. (they are very fragile). thats why the hole was so small.
i wouldnt assume this is too small to be a 757by this video. its simply too blurry and the frame-by-fame quality is too weak to confirm it.
911NeverForget 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
DON'T FORGET TO FLAG THIS LYING SHILL'S VIDEOS AS SPAM AND RATE THEM LOW LOW LOW, EVERYBODY!
REALIZE this lying shill "911NeverForget" (one of several aliases) is and has been criminally involved in the 9/11 mass murders that killed nearly 3,000 of your countrymen, murders plotted by Bush and Cheney to justify their war in Iraq -- which is exactly what happened and what is now going on. They had MOTIVE, they had OPPORTUNITY, and they too are lying fucking psychopaths like 911NeverForget.
911BushCheneyDidIt 3 years ago
Idiot lying shill '911NeverForget', you can block your accounts from receiving the truth but you won't do any good. Don't you know that 85% of the American population already doesn't believe the official conspiracy theory that you're trying to help maintain for the real 9/11 mass murderers? OF COURSE YOU DO but what choice do you have? You can't stop working the coverup now because you're part of it, you go down when the main players do.
Oh I hope they keep the death penalty for treason.
911ShillsAlwaysLie 3 years ago
Who are you going to believe?
A) A few LYING right-wing losers like the author of this video who go to AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK trying to maintain the 9/11 coverup to protect the real mass murderers?
B) HUNDREDS of professional architects, engineers, physicists and other scientists, pilots, and educated people of all types, NOW including 7 CIA veterans! See my profile for details...
LET THE TRUTH BE KNOWN!
JohnMcClone 3 years ago
shouldn't we see a giant 757 in this clip. i didn't see one. i didn't see a missile(or missle as you spelled it) either. so im not sure what hit, but is was not a 757. this proves jack sh:t. nice try douche
ih8ronpaulh8ers 4 years ago
the clip is very blurry and its frame quality is terrible, which makes the plane look smaller. yes, there is a plane that appears quickly, which is why you didnt see it. look on the right hand side of the video. a white object appears. that is the plane.
911NeverForget 4 years ago
Do remember, oh remember
The Eleventh of September
The fascists' treason and plot
I know of no reason
Why that neocon treason
Should ever be forgot...
DownWithTheOwl 4 years ago