Krav maga Self Defense Techniques Punch / Jab Cross - How To

[mcline007]

I have done jujitsu and trust me, it is not that easy to take down someone. I have my doubts about this martial art

[jsumm54421]

@mcline007 You are correct. That's why the MMA fighters study wrestling for it's more efficient take down methods. Self defense systems takes a different approach. Putting the attacker down and trying to remain on your feet is key to surviving a violent attack. There is but one Krav Maga technique in this video and you missed it and what is being discussed. Yes, all techniques work and fail. I'm sure you see this in your training. The individual will always have to execute to succeed.

[zubatzu]

Krav maga is a dishonorable martial art.

[jsumm54421]

I agree with all. Everything depends on who is doing it and how skilled they are. All techniques work... all techniques fail. NOTE: There is a V-step to the dead side of this attack. There is commitment in the attack and not a probing setup strike like you may see in sport arts that "score" points. Also, If you understand Krav Maga or any self defense, you know that you must train to defend from an unprepared state and not in a stance. "Fighting" is taught in Krav, yet, this is not that!

[ncripzx]

yeah but will your opponent go down that easy cmon the guy will not want to go down

[fireskull66325]

In addition, examples like the first he extends too far in his punch, which leaves him open for all kinds of exploitation. I know this is just showing technique, but it was about how fast or hard he was punching, it was that he leaned in with his punch, leaving him open, as I said, for all kinds of things. If you are fighting against someone that sloppy then it doesn't take krav maga to beat them. It just takes common sense.

[fireskull66325]

I don't see how that would work if it was someone who knows what they're doing. Doing stuff as fancy as a neck pull while stringing under their arm when someone who knows what they're doing will retract the instant they punch. You would have to know exactly what they're doing beforehand, or have to have superhuman reflexes. I'm not saying it's impossible, but unless it's against some street brawler this would be immensely hard to pull off.

[jsumm54421]

@fireskull66325 Curious, define "someone who knows what they are doing". I love and train in many arts, so I'd like to understand if there is a certain "style" that you are referring to. Thanks

[fireskull66325]

@jsumm54421 I'm most familiar with Taekwando. I don't have an exact skill level I am referring to as I don't think it would square up with belt level. Suffice to say at least initial Black Belt level. Also understand I have a very high opinion of what I've seen of Krav Maga, it's just these particular techniques I am talking about.

[jsumm54421]

@fireskull66325 I know it's hard to here the dialog but I'm not showing how some other systems address a single straight punch. The Krav defense does not rely on a parry with the hands so I can see many people miss the key destructive strike. However, techniques don't just work. Never trust anyone trying to sell you magical techniques. The technique or style is only as good as the person doing it. Techniques work, and they all fail with poor execution.

[dudleyrecords]

why don't you first practice Krav yourself and than share your opinion. I think that you will see that the techniques might seem simple but in fact they are very refined. Note how the teacher uses his body mass above strength to force the opponent to the floor. I practice this for a couple of months and I had to let go of techniques that I learned with kick boxing.

[hopked]

this MIGHT be impressive if the feeder actually KNEW how to throw a real jab or cross

[splitsoul101]

i feel like ray charles, i cant see shit

[TheItaliiana]

Hahahahaha he got DROPPEDDDDDD

[vikingproducts]

could u slow the moves down so we can see how u did them cos ur 2 fast , if u did them slow and then real speed ! thanks

[somersetkravmaga]

Its not Krav - its Moni aizik stuff.  Put the gloves on the attacker and ask him to punch full power. It wont work.

Real Krav Maga will - parry the punch and kick him in the balls. Simple - proven and works at real speed.

[jsumm54421]

@somersetkravmaga - Don't let the CKM shirt fool you. CKM, KMWW, IKMA I make sure I experience things first hand. KMWW is my specialty. But I am proficient in various other systems of self defense. I don't go technique crazy because it confuses people. FACT: Every technique requires correct timing. Instructors who don't make this paramount in their training are totally lost!

[jsumm54421]

@somersetkravmaga - Also, it's wise to call KMWW HQs before engaging in conflict. You need to understand who you are speaking to.

[somersetkravmaga]

@jsumm54421 We are not associated with KMWW. I am familiar with boxing - I started boxing back in the 1976 and occassionally coach to this day - though teach Krav Maga and Krav Maga Instructors for a living. Bottom line - Hand is faster than the body.

The clue is in the name - counter punching - not counter takedown. This wont work on a non compliant partner. Just try it with protective kit at full speed.

RE KMWW I have a lot of time for them - good training - good people.

[jsumm54421]

@somersetkravmaga Since you know boxing than you understand that timing is everything. Speed and timing is developed through training. Those who don't respect, train or understand the importance of timing is at the mercy of those who do. Split the attacker timing is vital in Krav Maga but it's never taught properly. No techniques just works. (I train armed security and COs) 

[jsumm54421]

We do take downs after a knee or kick to the groin all the time. In real situations! No need to do a mock test with a glove. That is why I am amused by your comment. But, I've seen it not work too! Poor execution will cause any technique to fail. So to be clear, we understand not to have faith in a technique itself.

[somersetkravmaga]

@jsumm54421 To state timing is not taught properly in Krav Maga in a pretty big statement - implication is you are teaching it right - everyone else is wrong ?

Given there are several different models of cadenence to coach striking in simple boxing and 4 methods commonly taught in Krav.

I think you are teaching some great stuff - but this technique wont work and is not

If you not teaching ot as Krav - fair enough - I thought that you were teaching it as such.

[jsumm54421]

@somersetkravmaga - I'm stating that you must have proper timing to counter any preemptive strike. The technique is not as important as developing the attributes to successfully execute them under pressure. As for me, many of my students have dangerous careers. I have no choice but to assure that my students are physically and mentally prepared to defend themselves. They must know Krav thoroughly. Yet, I have a team of highly skilled ad visors I consult to aid in training advanced students.

[somersetkravmaga]

@jsumm54421 Trust me - put gloves and a face protector on and get the puncher to go full speed and retract the punch. Now compare parrying the strike and throwing a regular kick to the groin with disengaging. Then try this - it wont work.

Try it. If you want to prove a point video iyt and post it to prove your techniques works. It wont if the puncher means it. This is the problem with CKM -its all guess work - its all untested. It is not Krav. Pity as you guys seem to have some good training.

[jsumm54421]

@somersetkravmaga - lol. I can prove that no techniques "just" works. That's too simple. I think you missed something. This video shows how "some systems" defend against a straight right and not as much a jab cross. There is a groin kick in the technique I am teaching. I'm parrying the jab/cross, addressing the immediate threat, then adding a simultaneous groin strike. I think you see a straight right CKM technique that is more of an Aikido based defense. Not what this video is about.

[jsumm54421]

@somersetkravmaga - I think you miss where we may disagree. I stated that "no technique" just works. They have to be applied, with correct timing, and made to work. A hook off the jab is a sound technique that may or may not get you knocked out.

[somersetkravmaga]

@jsumm54421 Ok - Fair enough. Its hard to show full context on a quick video and easy to criticise. What I am then seeing is part of a technique - Ok.

Heres a thing though - if you can parry and counter to the groin - why then close for a take down - why not disengage and run away. Not  a criticism - an observation ?

[jsumm54421]

@somersetkravmaga - I agree with that. Yet, some individuals may have to control and arrest based on their duties. So those individuals may need to take down. Yes, civilians need to address and eliminate the threat and disengage ASAP.

[dmartinezguitarart]

you're timing and anticipation would have to be impeccable and for most of us just right down ridiculous and not really possible except by luck.

[fate023]

nice moves

[jamesbigmac75]

great stuff, i wish more people would integrate punch counters rather than just blocking. I want to try this out, but it's hard to actually find people that want to spar because no one wants to get hit.

[MrBOUTDATCASH]

im bout to go to jail and was stressin so bad and this video jus made my life so much better THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!

[defendself]

@Rookietop - When you face a "What if", you must adapt. No technique just "works". YOU have to make a technique work, or find success through another method! Adapt! lol

[Rookietop]

This is not practical if someone is jabbing you like a boxer where he snaps his arm back into position, sure if he threw a straight punch like that it would work to an extent.

[jsumm54421]

I study and love boxing and this is will work from a snapping jab, if you see the details. (Hint: don't look at the hands)

[ScreamingKengaroo]

@Rookietop You could just simply parry his snap jabs and only go for that takedown when the opportunity comes.

[defendself]

Yes, sparring and constant drilling helps to develop the attributes to deal with punches. That's our approach at the Dunellen NJ school.

[wattsite]

I and a lot of my fellow trainees at our krav maga classes think stopping punches are harder than knife defenses.

Because they come so fast.

[straikasx]

it's not learning... learning must be step by step. not everything at same moment with such speed..

[KravMagaNJ]

Yes. Everyone learns at a different pace and step by step is the way. Repetition develops proficiency. I think a big point in this technique is to move off line when countering, since, punches come in bunches.

[tkddevon]

Ouch!

[KravMagaNJ]

These are techniques from many wonderful systems of self defense. We use them in Krav also! Good work.

[Ocam777]

ive been doing krav for 1 year and lemme say that the techniques never work this smooth when the other guy is actually fighting back, it sucks but its still badass to do

[defendself]

I agree! There is no magic technique that just works. You, as an individual, must make whatever you do work for you. A technique or style is only as good as the person doing it. Krav Maga defense drills are simulated movements that appear smooth with lots of practice. However, good Krav Maga pressure drills reveal the more chaotic nature of a real attack. Still a simulation, however, about as close as you can get to reality. This is just a clip showing options when moving off line.

[defendself]

1 year is not a long time.

[xaugstbrnsredx]

it is if you apply yourself and try hard.

[KravMagaNJ]

Keep training and don't get too caught up in techniques themselves. You have to "make" what ever you do work!

[jsumm54421]

Watch the mirror for the front view.

[jsumm54421]

Yes, this may be going away from certain "preset", attack defense techniques that many may teach or have seen. I respect them all. However, this is something slightly different to digest.

[mikebythesun]

Jason, smooth as ever!

[defendself]

Since punches come in bunches, its good to see something other than a single punch defense technique! Thanks!

[dammistoaccount]

yes i agree....jabs are fast and if u focus only on one of them u may get a sequence in the face....i also think krav maga is the best defence system, but in this video a sequence defence is missing

[jsumm54421]

This is just a "possible" senerio when you have an opportunity to anticipate a jab / cross. Krav Maga has a simultaneous strike that goes along with every defense. That strike is to destroy a weak part of the attackers body. This disrupts the attacker from putting together a series of attacks. The results are like a stop hit in Jeet Kune Do. I have used this concept many times and it's easy to show and hard to put in words. The technique with the low high strikes is a preferred technique.

[dammistoaccount]

yes i see... i agree it's the best defence if u can anticipate the punch, unfortunately i don't think i have the fast reaction for anticipate it if he don't "telegraphs" the strike. i'm afraid i'm too slow for anticipate a quick strike like a jab....there're not ways to block, or dodge it and counterattack together?

[jsumm54421]

Good timing and fast reaction time is something that you can develop. They get better with practice and erode without. Pro boxers often talk about having "ring rust" from lack of training. So this is not something you just "have", or "don't have". Also, if you accept and prepare for the fact that you "will" get hit, then you need not worry about blocking "everything" that comes your way. There is always someone faster and stronger and this systems takes that is account.

[dammistoaccount]

i see your point...thanks a lot ^^

[bloodynachos]

@defendself you have to be faster than the other person