If any of you watch the full episode you will see that the specific details of what's specifically going on is really irrelevant in the context of the ultimate outcome of this man's journey with Derren Brown.
@ESOTERICALADEPT well the thing is that you are wrong although reality is just a word it doesnt mean that we are one consiousness otherwise everyone would be dead and the prhrase one energy is totally illogical there are no energies just energy
@benji4644 At 3:00 a.m I don't care to much about grammar and vocabulary but by "Well the thing is that youre wrong..." I meant that I disagree so in my opinion you really are wrong.
Derren Brown has subliminally setup certain facets of this to make it work.. The Yellow line image may have come from the border of the frame.. I don't know, but Derren is a master of deceipt and subtley, and he is not going to reveal how everyhting works, and of course will only show limited segments in the show.. Just enough to keep us wondering.. The very shit he claims about people being brainwashed and manipulated, he is guilty of himself. Fuck, we all are victims of Mass Brainwashing.
@ukijhu97 I think I see what your getting at but most of these people don't hear things that are real. Have you ever had an auditory hallucination? It's not like imagining voices it's more like a loud booming voice that surrounds you but doesn't hurt your ears. It sounds completely real, So much so that I have to look around to see if somebody is in my house before I realize that it was just another one of those. It usually sounds way too clear to be real but way too real to be fake.
@ukijhu97 doesnt schizophrenia need a serious trigger? like a psychoses?
i fail to see how this could cause such an event.
id say (i wasnt there, so i mean IF this is all on the up and up) this is Just awesome. and i think those guys walked out of there refreshed and amazed.
@lucius215 A psychosis can is a collection of internal experiences, beliefs and criteria in a particular order, so yes schizophrenia can also be induced. Rumor has it that Bandler modeled Erickson so thouroughly he not only gained Erickson's skill to hypnotise but also his arthritis and he had to dissociate heavily.
Oh, yeah, the youtube video 'neuroscience of emotions' has some tips on the inner journey although a little dry. The mind is the frontier for this century, because it has all the answers and can handle incredible details and complexity. Don't leave home without yours. Someone else is using it right now. One hypnotist told me we don't have to worry about being hypnotized, just unhypnotized.
To get u started part of the mind is verbal thinking and part is non verbal. It is felt that intuition accesses the much faster more powerful vision, non verbal. Intuition can get it in words, images, gut feelings, emotions and yes empathy requires the mirror neurons. Really good articles can be much better than books with a lot of filler you won't use. Look up intuition, Cognitive Therapy, Emotional Intelligence, esp. in sports + spirituality is really quite introspective, rules for the inner
It occurs to me that if there's an universal innateness to gestures and facial expressions, meaning that the conjoint physical expression of a psychological affirmation is predertermined - than could we enduce reversely the effect from body to mind, by acting intentionnally out of phase? Wouldn't that induce a synchronisation of the mind to the gestures, invertly to having the body acte accordingly to the mind?
This reminds me of popular sayings like ''walk with your back streight and head up, you'll feel better'' or ''keep the outside clean and you'll feel less rubbish inside''(herd it in french, don't know how you'd say it). Suggesting that acting a certain way will somehow convince you that you have reason to feel a certain way.
@TheScreamingRetard This isn't NLP; it's "a combination of magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship". NLP proponents like to use Brown's name to lend credibility to their pseudoscience. Brown himself has never mentioned NLP.
NLP itself may not be a pseudoscience but many of its proponents outside of the academic community (e.g., authors of popular books and people on YouTube) make exaggerated claims about what it can do. As a demonstration of NLP, they use videos of Derren Brown, who himself has clearly said that he does not practice NLP. It makes NLP seem more impressive, but it's totally dishonest.
Well, Derren actually went on some NLP-classes and studied it for a time. And I think he has mentioned it in some show, but I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure. :P
"In his book 'Tricks of the Mind' he mentions that he attended an NLP course with Richard Bandler, co-creator of NLP and mentor of Paul McKenna, but suggests that the rigid systems of body language interpretation employed by NLP are not as reliable as its practitioners imply."
@SadegoGG Indeed he does. Have you read it? He presents a couple of NLP claims that he thinks have some limited validity, but overall he is very skeptical of the field. He doesn't have many kind things to say about NLP or its "practitioners".
@SadegoGG Are you trying to be funny, or just an asshole? It's hard to tell. Either you haven't actually read Derren's book, or you've forgotten what it actually says about NLP.
A later post: "In his book 'Tricks of the Mind' he mentions that he attended an NLP course with Richard Bandler, co-creator of NLP and mentor of Paul McKenna."
I have read his book, and you did indeed contradict yourself. Quit trying to put the blame on me, for you are the fool.
But when it comes to my person, now one would even think that I can hypnotize people over the phone or emails even radio or television.
And yes there is a dark side to all this stuff just like anything. It can be dangerous and even lethal to other people. So be careful is you now how to use it, never use it to harm others. Remember that what goes around comes around many times fold. You have been warned!
What do I mean by keep this stuff a secret! Exactly that. Don't tell ANYONE that this stuff is possible. To start with, they will not believe it. So why even waist your time.
I mean, when it comes to jobs, money, dates, sex you and others are in the same game.
Let me ask you this. If you were playing poker, would you show your cards to the other players? Only an idiot would do that!
Same principal here.
I use this stuff on emails, phone calls, recording, in person and it works every time.
I use anchoring, rapport, lenguistics, and a whole bunch of elements that when compared to other people I always get what I really want. I get the jobs I want, I get the date I want, I get sex from the person I want even when I am old, fat, ugly. That's right! I wouldn't date me! And yet I get the hottest sexual partners cause I don't want a relationship. I have more fun now. And they find me so so attractive and hot and erotic that they can't wait to be with me.
@rdoetjes Ok I am may be missing the point. Tell me, what do you think is the point that Derren is trying to make? May be we just have different views or information. I did get knocked on the head a lot of times. Specially coming from Mexican Parents so I give you that. Ha ha!
Come on guys. Let the people who do not believe on this stuff believe what they want. Let them live in their own little box. If and when they do, that is to your advantage. You know very well that using this stuff put you on top of everybody. The everyday people don''t believe or understand this. Good for you both!
You the one who know about this stuff can make things work in your favor do to the use of this stuff. This stuff should be kept a secret. It is to powerful!
ha ha, is it that important to find the "right" label for derren brown? :-))) ..... be honest, how many people do have such a keen mind that they could resist his manipulations ... isn´t it fun to find out how he is playing games with everybody?
Just because you don't UNDERSTAND it doesn't mean ITS not REAL... those of us who have studied suggestive language, anchoring etc etc... know just how REAL it is.... You shop all the time and there are "ADs" that are influencing the things you buy. EVERYDAY more and more you'll see that you're surrounded by MASTER Persuaders everywhere...
moodini99 you are a fucking cunt derren brown is a great showman who produces some brilliant 'tricks' it is just a shame you are so small minded you dismiss them immediately. YOU TWAT
I'm a cunt? you're a cunt. You're a fucking moron. I bet you wank off to Uri Gellar bending spoons. Only children and narrow-minded spastics like you fall for such nonsense. Do you think that wrestling is real too? You're the typical kind of crass simpleton that falls for such blatent tricks
You are easily lead. In fact, you're no better than a common Christian. lol
I'm the one that appreciates Derren Brown for what he is, a magician and a showman.
Derren Brown has never said he's a magician as he's explained several; time how its all psychology and suggestion with flares of showman ship for entertainment purposes he has also gone out of his way to explain his methods and expose fraudulent techniques used by con artist in the faith healing and spiritualist scams so people bitchin about him on this video is pathetic get a life you losers these videos are ment for fans not bitter youtube losers!
It's part of the act. Don't be so naive. If you watch Derren's early stuff, you'll realise that he is just a magician. And not a very Good one either. There is no Psychology. He is the con-artist. Nothing more than a bog standard magician.
In all fairness what do you know? unless you are a magician, then your are just sad cuz magicians are pretty lame! name 3 cool magician? it's impossible cuz there arent any, Derren Brown is a genius and I've seen all his work going back to trick of the mind so how exactly is looking at a guy and appreciating his work naive? noone thinks he's supernatural everyone who's a fan of his knows it just suggestion and psychology so don't see your point.
It isn't suggestion or psychology. Derren is just a run of the mill magician that dresses magic tricks up as something else. The one thing he is very talented at is showmanship, that is why people fall for the illusion that his tricks have anything to do with Psychology, they don't.
Derren is no genius. And he is no more of a 'mentalist' than Uri Gellar is a psychic. You aren't appreciating his work, you're falling for his act.
it seems you have misunderstood what mentalism is all about moodini.. it's about using knowledge on how the minds works, how we make the choices we make, and so on to influence other people.. the mentalists just show the extremes of such behaviours.. derren is a mentalist, but the thing is that he sometimes use the psychology-label to enhance his "normal" magic-tricks.. sure, were falling for it if we believe all he says, but some of it is true.. do your homework and you'll find out =)
He is not a magician or a fortune teller. he is basically a good psychologist and understands people very well. its like saying hypnosis isn't real it is a very normal thing for a person to experience without even realising it
I disagree. He isn't a psychologist at all, that's just part of his act. Derren Brown is just a magician. He can't predict the lottery or roulette, and he can't persuade someones subconscious to rob a bank. It's all part of the act, don't be so gullible.
I'm talking shit? That's rich, coming from someone with the grammar of a five year old. You're the one talking shit. Derren Brown is a magician, that's it. Everything else is part of the act. Are you stupid enough to believe it?
The list of mentalists? I don't think so. Stop being such a naive idiot. He isn't a mentalist, he's a magician. That's it. You're so easily lead. Let me guess, you think that Uri Gellar is on 'the list of psychics'. lol
What "Mentalist" means changes depending on context and location. When referring to Derren Brown in Britain, A Mentalist is a form of Magician who specializes in using psychology to pull off their magic tricks rather then slight of hand.
The line between magician and mentalist is very thin. Mentalist is a magician specializing in illusion related to mind reading, hypnosis, memory, predictions, things like that. So Derren Brown is a mentalist.
The story of the him saving the lady is fake and has been implanted through the items and suggestions in the room.
Every item and color in the room is a suggestion. Remember, Derren uses tricks and suggestions *before* what we may see on film. We have no idea if any of these guys had already been subjected to suggestion on their way to this filming (which he has done before).
No. This is not unusual at all if you attend Rapport seminars. Half the room will have this experience, and some will have even more remarkable experiences that seem like telepathy.
Ha. I'll take that one. Anyone got a decent excuse for a bad typo I could borrow?
Quite enjoyed his show. It was old school Derren. Fact, he genuinely does use magic, psychology, misdirection and showmanship. It's just not always what you think. Anyway, who bitches that Paul Daniels never really sawed Debbie McGee in half? It's the way Derren weaves everything together that is genius.
well thats the skill of good misdirection, i.e. debbie was/is as talented as paul when you consider the spaces she could squeeze into. and they kept the secrets to a minimum and shared them with few in pulling them off.
derren does seem to be over obsessed with "weaving" everything together to the extent that it becomes obvious that this isnt the reality
itd be more plausible if he insisted that it was all the fault of naughty pixies!!
Because he reveals the true method in his book. Don't be use the lazy man's explanation of "actors." I'm obviously not going to tell you how DB does it, but when DB EXPLAINS his own methods in a lecture for professional magicians (not spectators), it's more credible than the first explanation that comes to mind.
I believe DB does NOT use actors because I KNOW his methods, not because he says so. For what it is worth, however, he said that while explaining TO MAGICIANS his REASON for NOT using stooges, and while detailing the true method. I am a magician. I'm not going to reveal the method just to prove he doesn't use actors.
i already know how he "does" his act. why would i want to give my hard earned cash to this guy?
by they way, i make my hard earned cash by making heavier than air objects levitate, by making buildings disappear, by making light from nothing, etc..
yeah, im an engineer. one of the true miracle workers :)
All the laymen here on youtube and elsewhere shout "actors!" They did it to Chriss Angel, to Banachek, they do it to every innovative magician until the magician writes a book on his methods. When are the morons going to learn that you don't get to be a successful magician by having your entire act depend on stooges?
haha. My point is that most ppl attribute every trick they can't possibly figure out to a stooge. That's not clear thinking. Just because one cannot see the solution, does not mean the solution is a paid actor.
good good. I agree with that. It's just bad form when an act states they dont use actors or stooges or camera tricks and then do, whether it to be a few select cases or not.
all tricks are lies to some degree but you have to have a 'moral' line that isnt crossed so you can appreciate the skill involved.
also, attempting "street magic" multiple times until someone falls the right way is not much better. show the other 9 out of 10 attempts when the trick fails! :)
well said ... i completely agree with what you are saying.. my theory is that people say "actor" because they are not ready to face up to the reality of it .. in the back of their minds they are scared of it.. not ready to acept it so they block it out and make a feeble excuse for why they dont believe it
You don't need to reveal the methods. They're not that complex. Anyone with a keen eye can piece it together. At the end of the day he is just a magician, and magicians do trick, they don't read minds, as I'm sure you know.
Absolutely right. I will say that I know how DB does 90% of his material, because of my magic and mentalism background. Obviously I don't conclude that the other 10% must be pure psychic ability of genuine mind control. DB is a good hypnotist, but he depends on neither to achieve most of his effects. And u r very right about his methods. Their simplicity is a thing of terrifying beauty. It almost makes you laugh out loud when you understand it.
its amazing to think in away derren picking who he did ,helped that person to be open about a bad event that happend of though sad in away you coulde say by sharing that event that took place was knocking the wall of emotions and guilt dawn. sorry if any spelling is wrong ? hope someone will understand me and what im trying to get at. have nice day or night all
why would he feel guilty? He did a heroic thing, he saved an old lady rom getting run over by a train...which is a positive situation...pay more attention!
Dont really like exposing anything, but thought of something that could be related. The black crosses are railway symbols at bridges i think. Derren is so clever nd influential.
Thats the thing though, i think i remember in nearly every program he does, at the start he says something like.. "im not physic, i never thought i was physic" and something about him using the subconscious mind
Unconscious is used to define someones thoughts when they are asleep or passed out/KO'd. There is such thing as sub conscious thought you twit for instance you think about every single breathe you take do you? or every time you blink it's automatic you can't control it (to a certain extent).
That's a good poitn.. take NOTHING for granted in his show. Everything there is there for a reason... he could have just done this with a table in a room and not put all the sugegstive items in there...
I don't know if I buy any of this, but another detail I noticed is that Derren Brown speaks to them over a low-quality speaker which sounds like the speaker at a train station.
notice the scene, yellow rail track like mirror frame and other objects related to a train station, always people there, also the red light etc, make it a panic situation. therefore the guy's reaction. derren brown is goood
Also note the sound/music, suggesting danger at first and later relieve
harryhakbijl 1 week ago
Neuro lingusitic programming at work, the weaker guy will read the mind of the otehr guy
ollobrains1 2 months ago
If any of you watch the full episode you will see that the specific details of what's specifically going on is really irrelevant in the context of the ultimate outcome of this man's journey with Derren Brown.
JonnieGraham 8 months ago
The danger he felt was induced by the red light and the music.
The yellow line was the yellow frame that was on the floor at his sight for 30 min.
The wind that blows , i suspect that was induced by a fan in the studio.
The sense of achivement was clear in the eyes and facial expression and body posture of the rescuer.
Mistake:He felt the danger induced as people in panic and mayhem-this was his closest understanding of danger.
Any other mistake was stoped by the order: no more details.
magdalenaferu 8 months ago
Sorry but this is bullshit. They've been implanted suggestions. Mirroring works, but it doesn't work that well.
HecklerBoy7 11 months ago
@HecklerBoy7 thats the point of the show
jeenyus720 6 months ago
Basically, we are one energy, one mind, just different facets, but still ONE mind, than thus all the modalities below that.
Once somebody KNOWS that, they can manipulate alot of variables in the human interacting world, thus Derren Brown, and various NLP'ers.
ESOTERICALADEPT 1 year ago
@ESOTERICALADEPT well the thing is that you are wrong although reality is just a word it doesnt mean that we are one consiousness otherwise everyone would be dead and the prhrase one energy is totally illogical there are no energies just energy
giorgosntoulos2 1 year ago
We are ONE conscious, not literally. Uh, and why would everyone be dead??
How is "one energy" be illogic?? Uh, now you're mentioning "energie(s)"???,
What's REALLY your point, where r u going with this besides an infinite circle???
ESOTERICALADEPT 1 year ago
@ESOTERICALADEPT My point is that I disagree with you that simple.
giorgosntoulos2 1 year ago
@giorgosntoulos2 that wasn't your point at all... and I quote "Well the thing is that youre wrong..." idiot
benji4644 10 months ago
@benji4644 At 3:00 a.m I don't care to much about grammar and vocabulary but by "Well the thing is that youre wrong..." I meant that I disagree so in my opinion you really are wrong.
giorgosntoulos2 10 months ago
Just realised how important it is we spend our time with.
purpleplumage 1 year ago
i this can happen, women exspecially know what people are feeling by the time there 6months they can differentiate 60faces of their mother
doctamic 1 year ago
If I was there I would do some kind of dance.
bk360 1 year ago
@bk360 you can do the dancing. but you have to do it slow and fluid. if you don't, you are not sticking with the rules.
MovGP0 1 year ago
something here is done behind the scenes
619Joe182 1 year ago
Derren Brown has subliminally setup certain facets of this to make it work.. The Yellow line image may have come from the border of the frame.. I don't know, but Derren is a master of deceipt and subtley, and he is not going to reveal how everyhting works, and of course will only show limited segments in the show.. Just enough to keep us wondering.. The very shit he claims about people being brainwashed and manipulated, he is guilty of himself. Fuck, we all are victims of Mass Brainwashing.
shoishk 1 year ago
THIS IS FASCINATING.
kfigura1 1 year ago
So this is essentially how schizophrenia develops i suppose. Is there a cure then?
ukijhu97 1 year ago
@ukijhu97 um...you have no idea what schizophrenia is do you?
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix I dont what is that?
chachodude 1 year ago
@chachodude usually it involves visual or auditory hallucinations.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@videosfromderelix Yes hearing voices in your head and stuff.
ukijhu97 1 year ago
@ukijhu97 I think I see what your getting at but most of these people don't hear things that are real. Have you ever had an auditory hallucination? It's not like imagining voices it's more like a loud booming voice that surrounds you but doesn't hurt your ears. It sounds completely real, So much so that I have to look around to see if somebody is in my house before I realize that it was just another one of those. It usually sounds way too clear to be real but way too real to be fake.
videosfromderelix 1 year ago
@ukijhu97 doesnt schizophrenia need a serious trigger? like a psychoses?
i fail to see how this could cause such an event.
id say (i wasnt there, so i mean IF this is all on the up and up) this is Just awesome. and i think those guys walked out of there refreshed and amazed.
nothing wrong with that.
another win.
lucius215 1 year ago
@lucius215 A psychosis can is a collection of internal experiences, beliefs and criteria in a particular order, so yes schizophrenia can also be induced. Rumor has it that Bandler modeled Erickson so thouroughly he not only gained Erickson's skill to hypnotise but also his arthritis and he had to dissociate heavily.
Sesquiltera 1 year ago
@Sesquiltera realy thats very intresting, did he get rid of it?
lucius215 1 year ago
@lucius215 Yes he did. I don't know how, but I'm making an educated guess that it can be done through a whole variaty of NLP techniques.
Sesquiltera 1 year ago
Oh, yeah, the youtube video 'neuroscience of emotions' has some tips on the inner journey although a little dry. The mind is the frontier for this century, because it has all the answers and can handle incredible details and complexity. Don't leave home without yours. Someone else is using it right now. One hypnotist told me we don't have to worry about being hypnotized, just unhypnotized.
hbar1212 1 year ago
To get u started part of the mind is verbal thinking and part is non verbal. It is felt that intuition accesses the much faster more powerful vision, non verbal. Intuition can get it in words, images, gut feelings, emotions and yes empathy requires the mirror neurons. Really good articles can be much better than books with a lot of filler you won't use. Look up intuition, Cognitive Therapy, Emotional Intelligence, esp. in sports + spirituality is really quite introspective, rules for the inner
hbar1212 1 year ago
this is what happens when "territories" are shared instead of "maps".
pie138 1 year ago
derren brown is good but this one is just rigged
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misshallsschool 1 year ago
very very interesting
SeanPhuket 1 year ago
It occurs to me that if there's an universal innateness to gestures and facial expressions, meaning that the conjoint physical expression of a psychological affirmation is predertermined - than could we enduce reversely the effect from body to mind, by acting intentionnally out of phase? Wouldn't that induce a synchronisation of the mind to the gestures, invertly to having the body acte accordingly to the mind?
Is that how it fonctions?
EyeFed 1 year ago
This reminds me of popular sayings like ''walk with your back streight and head up, you'll feel better'' or ''keep the outside clean and you'll feel less rubbish inside''(herd it in french, don't know how you'd say it). Suggesting that acting a certain way will somehow convince you that you have reason to feel a certain way.
EyeFed 1 year ago
that is called a somato psychic reaction, the body having control over the mind instead of vice versa, or psycho somatic
reibergraphix 1 year ago
Are you sure?Isn't psychosomatic rather psychic troubles having physical consequences and not the other way around?
You mean like faking being sick and acting week so well that you suggestively devitalise your body? (mind suggesting to the body.)
I was more refering to enducing feelings of an emotion by 'acting' it's expression.
(Body suggesting to the mind.)
Or do they both qualify as psychosomatic?
I'm not exactly informed of what defines psychosomatic, so of what qualifies as such.
EyeFed 1 year ago
psycho-somatic is the mind creating effects in the body, somato-psychic is the body having an effect on the mind
reibergraphix 1 year ago
@reibergraphix ho! ok. Thought it was just the more 'scientificly correct' way of saying psycho-somatic, wich I thought you were refering to.
Anyway, thanks for the term!
EyeFed 1 year ago
big yellow picture frame... yellow line... coinsidence.. i think not... i always read too much into derren brown, he's a genius! :)
1pokerknight 1 year ago
how the fuk can nlp do something like that? someone explain this to me
TheScreamingRetard 1 year ago
@TheScreamingRetard This isn't NLP; it's "a combination of magic, suggestion, psychology, misdirection and showmanship". NLP proponents like to use Brown's name to lend credibility to their pseudoscience. Brown himself has never mentioned NLP.
inf0dump 1 year ago
are you saying that nlp is a psuedo science?? i see all these crazy videos, some derren brown, and i can spot extreme things having to do with nlp.
TheScreamingRetard 1 year ago
NLP itself may not be a pseudoscience but many of its proponents outside of the academic community (e.g., authors of popular books and people on YouTube) make exaggerated claims about what it can do. As a demonstration of NLP, they use videos of Derren Brown, who himself has clearly said that he does not practice NLP. It makes NLP seem more impressive, but it's totally dishonest.
inf0dump 1 year ago
Well, Derren actually went on some NLP-classes and studied it for a time. And I think he has mentioned it in some show, but I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure. :P
Vanster2010 1 year ago
True. From Wikipedia:
"In his book 'Tricks of the Mind' he mentions that he attended an NLP course with Richard Bandler, co-creator of NLP and mentor of Paul McKenna, but suggests that the rigid systems of body language interpretation employed by NLP are not as reliable as its practitioners imply."
inf0dump 1 year ago
@inf0dump
He has an entire chapter on NLP in his book Tricks of the Mind
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG Indeed he does. Have you read it? He presents a couple of NLP claims that he thinks have some limited validity, but overall he is very skeptical of the field. He doesn't have many kind things to say about NLP or its "practitioners".
inf0dump 1 year ago
@inf0dump
Quit contradicting yourself freedom hating liberal.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@SadegoGG Are you trying to be funny, or just an asshole? It's hard to tell. Either you haven't actually read Derren's book, or you've forgotten what it actually says about NLP.
inf0dump 1 year ago
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@inf0dump
Let me quote you from two different posts.
Your first post:
"Brown himself has never mentioned NLP. "
A later post: "In his book 'Tricks of the Mind' he mentions that he attended an NLP course with Richard Bandler, co-creator of NLP and mentor of Paul McKenna."
I have read his book, and you did indeed contradict yourself. Quit trying to put the blame on me, for you are the fool.
SadegoGG 1 year ago
@TheScreamingRetard read books
Mu5clehead 1 year ago
But when it comes to my person, now one would even think that I can hypnotize people over the phone or emails even radio or television.
And yes there is a dark side to all this stuff just like anything. It can be dangerous and even lethal to other people. So be careful is you now how to use it, never use it to harm others. Remember that what goes around comes around many times fold. You have been warned!
No I don't teach anyone this stuff.
mercurio0000 2 years ago
What do I mean by keep this stuff a secret! Exactly that. Don't tell ANYONE that this stuff is possible. To start with, they will not believe it. So why even waist your time.
I mean, when it comes to jobs, money, dates, sex you and others are in the same game.
Let me ask you this. If you were playing poker, would you show your cards to the other players? Only an idiot would do that!
Same principal here.
I use this stuff on emails, phone calls, recording, in person and it works every time.
mercurio0000 2 years ago
I use anchoring, rapport, lenguistics, and a whole bunch of elements that when compared to other people I always get what I really want. I get the jobs I want, I get the date I want, I get sex from the person I want even when I am old, fat, ugly. That's right! I wouldn't date me! And yet I get the hottest sexual partners cause I don't want a relationship. I have more fun now. And they find me so so attractive and hot and erotic that they can't wait to be with me.
So keep this stuff a secret!
mercurio0000 2 years ago
You got knocked on the head one too many times right?
rdoetjes 2 years ago
You are free to believe what you want rdoetjes. If you believe that this stuff works or you believe that it does not. Either way, you are right!
mercurio0000 2 years ago
It strongly depends on your frame of mind, I guess.
But I think you are missing the point of Deren Brown.
rdoetjes 2 years ago
@rdoetjes Ok I am may be missing the point. Tell me, what do you think is the point that Derren is trying to make? May be we just have different views or information. I did get knocked on the head a lot of times. Specially coming from Mexican Parents so I give you that. Ha ha!
But can you please explain what you mean?
mercurio0000 2 years ago
Come on guys. Let the people who do not believe on this stuff believe what they want. Let them live in their own little box. If and when they do, that is to your advantage. You know very well that using this stuff put you on top of everybody. The everyday people don''t believe or understand this. Good for you both!
You the one who know about this stuff can make things work in your favor do to the use of this stuff. This stuff should be kept a secret. It is to powerful!
mercurio0000 2 years ago
ha ha, is it that important to find the "right" label for derren brown? :-))) ..... be honest, how many people do have such a keen mind that they could resist his manipulations ... isn´t it fun to find out how he is playing games with everybody?
strubbelfee 2 years ago
Does'nt have to be a script. I've tried rapport and i can somewhat understand what the other person is thinking.
holiestNemesy 2 years ago
@progress2007
Agree with you
theThomasJamHO 2 years ago
come on - it's obviously a script
progress2007 2 years ago
This thread got violent fast. Darren just uses some simple psychology very expertly delivered. Now if only I could do that!
Contradiction11 2 years ago
the yellow line....do you think the picture frame might have something to do with that?
ViceWorld 2 years ago
Just because you don't UNDERSTAND it doesn't mean ITS not REAL... those of us who have studied suggestive language, anchoring etc etc... know just how REAL it is.... You shop all the time and there are "ADs" that are influencing the things you buy. EVERYDAY more and more you'll see that you're surrounded by MASTER Persuaders everywhere...
goodbeingtheking 2 years ago
yea ur rite, dey alwaes say "dat impossible!".
lulu1night4ever 2 years ago
Wrestling is'nt real ?????
straitjacketlily 2 years ago
moodini99 you are a fucking cunt derren brown is a great showman who produces some brilliant 'tricks' it is just a shame you are so small minded you dismiss them immediately. YOU TWAT
unitedrd99 2 years ago
I'm a cunt? you're a cunt. You're a fucking moron. I bet you wank off to Uri Gellar bending spoons. Only children and narrow-minded spastics like you fall for such nonsense. Do you think that wrestling is real too? You're the typical kind of crass simpleton that falls for such blatent tricks
You are easily lead. In fact, you're no better than a common Christian. lol
I'm the one that appreciates Derren Brown for what he is, a magician and a showman.
Peace, prick.
P.S - Oasis are shit
moodini99 2 years ago
Derren Brown has never said he's a magician as he's explained several; time how its all psychology and suggestion with flares of showman ship for entertainment purposes he has also gone out of his way to explain his methods and expose fraudulent techniques used by con artist in the faith healing and spiritualist scams so people bitchin about him on this video is pathetic get a life you losers these videos are ment for fans not bitter youtube losers!
frankthetank383 2 years ago
It's part of the act. Don't be so naive. If you watch Derren's early stuff, you'll realise that he is just a magician. And not a very Good one either. There is no Psychology. He is the con-artist. Nothing more than a bog standard magician.
moodini99 2 years ago
In all fairness what do you know? unless you are a magician, then your are just sad cuz magicians are pretty lame! name 3 cool magician? it's impossible cuz there arent any, Derren Brown is a genius and I've seen all his work going back to trick of the mind so how exactly is looking at a guy and appreciating his work naive? noone thinks he's supernatural everyone who's a fan of his knows it just suggestion and psychology so don't see your point.
frankthetank383 2 years ago
It isn't suggestion or psychology. Derren is just a run of the mill magician that dresses magic tricks up as something else. The one thing he is very talented at is showmanship, that is why people fall for the illusion that his tricks have anything to do with Psychology, they don't.
Derren is no genius. And he is no more of a 'mentalist' than Uri Gellar is a psychic. You aren't appreciating his work, you're falling for his act.
moodini99 2 years ago
it seems you have misunderstood what mentalism is all about moodini.. it's about using knowledge on how the minds works, how we make the choices we make, and so on to influence other people.. the mentalists just show the extremes of such behaviours.. derren is a mentalist, but the thing is that he sometimes use the psychology-label to enhance his "normal" magic-tricks.. sure, were falling for it if we believe all he says, but some of it is true.. do your homework and you'll find out =)
yanimar89 2 years ago
ok those 2 are gonna be faggots for each other now lol
guitarchim 2 years ago
He is not a magician or a fortune teller. he is basically a good psychologist and understands people very well. its like saying hypnosis isn't real it is a very normal thing for a person to experience without even realising it
stormBIGbowling 2 years ago
I disagree. He isn't a psychologist at all, that's just part of his act. Derren Brown is just a magician. He can't predict the lottery or roulette, and he can't persuade someones subconscious to rob a bank. It's all part of the act, don't be so gullible.
moodini99 2 years ago
hes a mentalist do u kno what that is? i dint fink so if u did u wouldnt be talking shit!
WiLLiAmSTAR1 2 years ago
I'm talking shit? That's rich, coming from someone with the grammar of a five year old. You're the one talking shit. Derren Brown is a magician, that's it. Everything else is part of the act. Are you stupid enough to believe it?
moodini99 2 years ago
Oh my fuckinnnggg Gosshhhh
can someone please school this tit
if you did your homework you will know that derren is a mentalist! he is on the bloody list of mentaist for fuck sake ! wow you are pissing me off!
WiLLiAmSTAR1 2 years ago
The list of mentalists? I don't think so. Stop being such a naive idiot. He isn't a mentalist, he's a magician. That's it. You're so easily lead. Let me guess, you think that Uri Gellar is on 'the list of psychics'. lol
moodini99 2 years ago
I think he meant he's on a list of mentals
Guarding 2 years ago
He said that Derren was on a list of mentalists. I doubt that any such list exists. maybe he wrote it, lol.
moodini99 2 years ago
he's both, magician and mentalist. among other things
youngobes 2 years ago
What "Mentalist" means changes depending on context and location. When referring to Derren Brown in Britain, A Mentalist is a form of Magician who specializes in using psychology to pull off their magic tricks rather then slight of hand.
Jeshikun 2 years ago
The line between magician and mentalist is very thin. Mentalist is a magician specializing in illusion related to mind reading, hypnosis, memory, predictions, things like that. So Derren Brown is a mentalist.
789123Y 2 years ago
WRONG AGAIN! If you don't know what he's doing... don't comment!
goodbeingtheking 2 years ago
Wow,
AbiBabi96 2 years ago
Here's how this was done.
The story of the him saving the lady is fake and has been implanted through the items and suggestions in the room.
Every item and color in the room is a suggestion. Remember, Derren uses tricks and suggestions *before* what we may see on film. We have no idea if any of these guys had already been subjected to suggestion on their way to this filming (which he has done before).
hydrolist1 2 years ago
Hints:
1) Yellow window frame
2) Room lights up red color - signal danger
3) Objects/shapes
4) black cross on floor (train tracks)
hydrolist1 2 years ago
No. This is not unusual at all if you attend Rapport seminars. Half the room will have this experience, and some will have even more remarkable experiences that seem like telepathy.
CONSIDERyou 2 years ago
lol
if you believe his explanations then you are being tricked twice
its not very difficult to pull off something like this
very easy if you use stooges and actors
but even the "hero" can be real
remember that lots of people apply to go on his show and its not difficult to look up there name with local newspapers and find these stories
i must admit this is one of his better acts compared to his two latest tricks
lottery numbers=split screen
stuck to the chair? LOL
rx8boi 2 years ago
If you honestly believe this is achieved through stooges you've been tricked, pal. Far easier way to do this, I assure you.
Agreed on his latest shows, not as dazzling as before. But mentalism is limited, I guess.
stevewithak 2 years ago
lol at "mantalism"
im seeing concentric circles everywhere now!!!!
what a load of crap his "show" was tonight
nothing even approaching new
and hydrolist1......
you must spend most of your time buying thing if you are as receptive to suggestion as you seem to believe people are.
i worry for you if you take his explanations at face value
rx8boi 2 years ago
Ha. I'll take that one. Anyone got a decent excuse for a bad typo I could borrow?
Quite enjoyed his show. It was old school Derren. Fact, he genuinely does use magic, psychology, misdirection and showmanship. It's just not always what you think. Anyway, who bitches that Paul Daniels never really sawed Debbie McGee in half? It's the way Derren weaves everything together that is genius.
stevewithak 2 years ago
well thats the skill of good misdirection, i.e. debbie was/is as talented as paul when you consider the spaces she could squeeze into. and they kept the secrets to a minimum and shared them with few in pulling them off.
derren does seem to be over obsessed with "weaving" everything together to the extent that it becomes obvious that this isnt the reality
itd be more plausible if he insisted that it was all the fault of naughty pixies!!
lol
rx8boi 2 years ago
He does NOT use stooges. If you've read his books or heard his lectures, he is opposed to using stooges on aesthetic grounds (not ethical grounds).
CONSIDERyou 2 years ago
BUT he does use misdirection. Its hardly scientific to base an arguement on what a person says.
I think its possible that he does use stooges.
pope1870 2 years ago
how can you be so sure he does NOT use stooges? because he says so?
thats really not a good argument. if you think it is then you are liable to be told a whole heap of things.... oh. :)
rx8boi 2 years ago
Because he reveals the true method in his book. Don't be use the lazy man's explanation of "actors." I'm obviously not going to tell you how DB does it, but when DB EXPLAINS his own methods in a lecture for professional magicians (not spectators), it's more credible than the first explanation that comes to mind.
CONSIDERyou 2 years ago
I believe DB does NOT use actors because I KNOW his methods, not because he says so. For what it is worth, however, he said that while explaining TO MAGICIANS his REASON for NOT using stooges, and while detailing the true method. I am a magician. I'm not going to reveal the method just to prove he doesn't use actors.
CONSIDERyou 2 years ago
lol
you make it sound like its all a big secret and all so worthy
its not. its a simple trick.
giving lectures to professioinal magicians?? what crap
if he reveals his methods in a book then you could quite easily repeat the method here
rx8boi 2 years ago
Buy the book, pirate.
CONSIDERyou 2 years ago
lol
i already know how he "does" his act. why would i want to give my hard earned cash to this guy?
by they way, i make my hard earned cash by making heavier than air objects levitate, by making buildings disappear, by making light from nothing, etc..
yeah, im an engineer. one of the true miracle workers :)
rx8boi 2 years ago
All the laymen here on youtube and elsewhere shout "actors!" They did it to Chriss Angel, to Banachek, they do it to every innovative magician until the magician writes a book on his methods. When are the morons going to learn that you don't get to be a successful magician by having your entire act depend on stooges?
CONSIDERyou 2 years ago
"you don't get to be a successful magician by having your entire act depend on stooges"
ah, so you accept that some of the act does depend on stooges then?
case closed :)
rx8boi 2 years ago
haha. My point is that most ppl attribute every trick they can't possibly figure out to a stooge. That's not clear thinking. Just because one cannot see the solution, does not mean the solution is a paid actor.
CONSIDERyou 2 years ago
good good. I agree with that. It's just bad form when an act states they dont use actors or stooges or camera tricks and then do, whether it to be a few select cases or not.
all tricks are lies to some degree but you have to have a 'moral' line that isnt crossed so you can appreciate the skill involved.
also, attempting "street magic" multiple times until someone falls the right way is not much better. show the other 9 out of 10 attempts when the trick fails! :)
rx8boi 2 years ago
well said ... i completely agree with what you are saying.. my theory is that people say "actor" because they are not ready to face up to the reality of it .. in the back of their minds they are scared of it.. not ready to acept it so they block it out and make a feeble excuse for why they dont believe it
xGuITarGuYYx 2 years ago
You don't need to reveal the methods. They're not that complex. Anyone with a keen eye can piece it together. At the end of the day he is just a magician, and magicians do trick, they don't read minds, as I'm sure you know.
moodini99 2 years ago
Absolutely right. I will say that I know how DB does 90% of his material, because of my magic and mentalism background. Obviously I don't conclude that the other 10% must be pure psychic ability of genuine mind control. DB is a good hypnotist, but he depends on neither to achieve most of his effects. And u r very right about his methods. Their simplicity is a thing of terrifying beauty. It almost makes you laugh out loud when you understand it.
CONSIDERyou 2 years ago
sorry how was the old woman in danger? someone explain it better
irishdan2007 2 years ago
"fluid choices" - then they pour the juice. lol.
mcteeth 2 years ago
now that's one i don't think many people can explain..
HibernianFitbaClub 2 years ago
roodllib is right - mind reading IS impossible: I just tried to read his mind and all I saw were 'cobwebs'. :(
Ghanimagirl 2 years ago
I dont understand what he did... as a train went past he picked her items up?? How? Was the train ont he track where the items were?
I dont get it...
Bak3dB3an 2 years ago
do you not think dreaming reveils our sub conscious to an extent?
ismaithliombainne 2 years ago
do not GIVE ME THE THUMBS UP!
nutellajunkie 2 years ago
Ok then...
martiallaw09 2 years ago
nice negative suggestion there.
YarikDras 2 years ago
The yellow frame represents the yellow line and the red lightening represents a feeling of danger
hurbs101 2 years ago
mind reading is impossible - fact
roodllib 2 years ago
power of suggestion.
That is how many of his tricks work.
The frame is the yellow line and the cross in the platform. The red light is panic and the speaker is the trains speaker system.
He is a very clever man.
Kozzy06 2 years ago
great, i think derren browns amazing,
95bradders95 2 years ago
This is how to get a lover
Listen and learn :)
KJS72 2 years ago
that is so wierd..
Denysisters 2 years ago
its amazing to think in away derren picking who he did ,helped that person to be open about a bad event that happend of though sad in away you coulde say by sharing that event that took place was knocking the wall of emotions and guilt dawn. sorry if any spelling is wrong ? hope someone will understand me and what im trying to get at. have nice day or night all
eldoran85 2 years ago
why would he feel guilty? He did a heroic thing, he saved an old lady rom getting run over by a train...which is a positive situation...pay more attention!
JarvisCockerisGod 2 years ago
Clearly the Yellow frame represented the yellow line!
8GRUM8 2 years ago
I love that room, its like changing colors lol, wish my room could do that lol :(
jaafarj 2 years ago
crazy this is but amazing my fav episode of series
nickr20091 2 years ago
Dont really like exposing anything, but thought of something that could be related. The black crosses are railway symbols at bridges i think. Derren is so clever nd influential.
jamiejigsaw 2 years ago
Thats the thing though, i think i remember in nearly every program he does, at the start he says something like.. "im not physic, i never thought i was physic" and something about him using the subconscious mind
Savage1606 2 years ago
no such thing as the sub conscious mind, only the conscious or the unconscious ;)
pheron17 2 years ago
Unconscious is used to define someones thoughts when they are asleep or passed out/KO'd. There is such thing as sub conscious thought you twit for instance you think about every single breathe you take do you? or every time you blink it's automatic you can't control it (to a certain extent).
1Jonman1 2 years ago
That's a good poitn.. take NOTHING for granted in his show. Everything there is there for a reason... he could have just done this with a table in a room and not put all the sugegstive items in there...
Bak3dB3an 2 years ago
whats a dream then? aint exactly concious then are you
marcpricey 2 years ago
good eye. that makes sense to me
andyfortruth 2 years ago
I don't know if I buy any of this, but another detail I noticed is that Derren Brown speaks to them over a low-quality speaker which sounds like the speaker at a train station.
sexualburgerking 2 years ago
yes! another clever observation!
andyfortruth 2 years ago
So he basically made that story fit one of his memories. End of story. :) Nevertheless. Darren is brilliant. This is something called "cold reading".
kszpirak 2 years ago
You obviously didn't understand what he did. This is not cold reading
DNBliQUidFUNK 2 years ago
this is not cold reading
Matzes 2 years ago
notice the scene, yellow rail track like mirror frame and other objects related to a train station, always people there, also the red light etc, make it a panic situation. therefore the guy's reaction. derren brown is goood
RUTMERTJEERDEMA 2 years ago
I went to see him yesterday. AMAZING!
09MrSmart60 2 years ago
brilliant! thanks for uploading this!
newbroken 2 years ago
Derrens crazy...., ty for uploading
JoMomma239 2 years ago