Thanks for posting this excellent video DjeseretMenace. When I was in Barcelona 4 years ago, I was fortunate to catch a special exhibit in their local history museum about Juan Negrin, the last president (or?) of Republican Spain. There were four rooms of posters from all sides of the civil war (POUM, the anarcho-syndicalists, Stalinist Marxists, Falange, Carlists....). I was in awe. Two days later I went to Guernica and the day after I saw Picasso's Geurnica at one of the museums in Madrid.
You reds try to make yourselves the victims, why don't you talk about the defenseless preists who were butchered by these filth? You commie bastards got what you deserved when you lost Spain.
@FistofAmerica who's making themselves out to be the victims, now? The Catholic Church always supported the murderous "pistoleros"... the priests who were "butchered" presided over the butchering of workers at the hands of paid fascists for decades before the civil war. The priests supported monarchy and opposed republic form of government, not to mention the Catholic Church's attempt at self preservation over their moral duty to defend the Jews against Hitler's barbarities. Get over yourself
stanilistas de mierdas, mas facha de los fachas, asesinos de libertarios. the comunist kill and torture many many pepole that dont thinkl like they want, he kill a lot of revulotionaris for political interes, the bild an army like the fascist army, they was nazi comunist
para comprender la revolución de 1936 recomiendo la lectura del libro "memorias de un anarquista de angués en la guerra la revolución y la guerrilla" revelador
Your video is both good and bad. Your facts are correct, but your interpretation of them will only please people who are basically "leftists."
The Republic was not very fair. Before the war started, policemen actually stood by and watched "Republicans" burn churches. Policemen also assassinated a leading conservative politician, Sotello.
That was like Obama's Police kidnapping Rush Limbaugh and dumping the body.
Viva the platitudes. Did you know that Soviet Union bled the Republic's gold supply for their aid. Meanwhile, the democratic nations looked the other way while the Fascists tested their weapons. The left and the right... both think they got it sussed but its the innocents that are dead in the middle. A pox on all your politics.
it was the stalin backed communists that destroy everything. all over the world, communists always act that way - the end of their utopia will be authoritarianism which we have seen and continue to see. Bakunin have foresee all these when he departed from Marx.
Viva Anarcho-Syndicalism!
Viva C.N.T.!
down with all authoritarianism and dictatorship, left and right!
@jumpnjza2 Typical fascist mindset-what about the condor legion,what about the Italian conscripts sent by Mussolini,what about Franco North African rapist troops?.Franco would have lost in 3 months without his fascist friends,the republic had a democratically elected govt who were betrayed by the allies in the first act of appeasement of fascism.The fascists rot in hell forgotten whilst Durruti,la pasionara and the international brigades are remembered as the heroes they are!
@jumpnjza2 I was replying to your post about Stalins help stopping the republicans getting their "asses handed to them" I fear I misinterpreted your comment as pro franco.For that I apologize.On the other hand I`ve gotta agree with your remark about the Priests getting killed by communists.the church in Spain were involved with the fascist forces before,during and after their bloody coup,handing out "God`s blessing" to the murderous falange and carlists.They got their just punishment as enemies
No worries. My only point was that the 'Land and Freedom' explanation of what happens isn't entirely correct. The anarchists and the POUM should have understood the benefits that come with a regular army. The Soviets had already shown the internal proletariat how to smash the reactionaries in the civil war and also how to deal with foreign interventionists! Not saying Stalin handled Soviet involvement well by any means, but the big bad Stalin theory is wrong, he had a point.
@jumpnjza2 Yeah,it`s a complex issue,but on balance I`ve gotta agree that a regular army prevented a quicker fascist victory.The problem was that Stalins invaluable assistence came with the arrival of the NKVD.Whilst successful in rooting out fsacist sympathizers,they also turned on all leftist rivals,particularly anarchists and the POUM.The crackdown in Barcelona in particular had a devastating effect on worker revolutionary morale,one of the republics strongest weapons!
I agree with you, the sectarian divisions created by the CPSU's policies were devastating. It's the arrogance a degenerated workers state has in knowing that they're the only source of support for the besieged republic. They feel they have license to dictate terms without having to negotiate. Fact is that the mass of workers supported the non-comintern workers parties (POUM, CNT). I agree with you on the NKVD.
@jumpnjza2 Have you read "the battle for Spain" by Anthony Beevor.It`s a fantastic definitive account of the war.The international brigade memorial trust has also got a good website.I`ve just watched a tremendous doc on utbe called " the spanish civil war-a prelude to tragedy" It`s on an account called georgeorwell.Theres loads of great docs on that channel.well worth a look.
@jumpnjza2 Regarding "land and freedom",it is written from a POUM perspective and as someone who is closer politically to a POUM point of view than the other leftist movements I can see the films point.The sense of betrayal felt by the POUM(and the anarchists of the CNT/FAI) at being crushed by other leftists must have been overwhelming! It would have been a nightmare balancing act though,combining revolutionary zeal with a regular army,something the bolsheviks faced in the Russian civil war!
No Pasaran! Solidarity forever, the Union makes us strong. The left has never been defeated - Socialists, Anarchists and Communists need to unite to stand up for the working class.
A muchos de esos supuestos "héroes" los mandó matar uno de los jefazos de las Brigadas Internacionales, André Marty (el famoso "Carnicero de Albacete"), por indisciplina y cobardía.
Por otra parte, no venían a luchar por la libertad. Venían para instaurar en España un régimen al estilo soviético... y digo yo, ¿eso es luchar por la democracia? Diría que no.
No creas, la mayoría de los Anglosajones si iban por los ideales que he dicho abajo, cierto es que había muchos comunistas y sovietistas, pero también muchos democratas.
Sorry to tell this nice anthem only represent one part of the supports to the Republic, this was the CNT´s anthem, or the Spanish anarchism, the Republic was better represented by their oficial anthem, Riego´s anthem.
I lived in a suburb, a suburb of Madrid, with bells, and clocks, and trees. From there you could look out over Castille's dry face: a leather ocean. My house was called the house of flowers, because in every cranny geraniums burst: it was a good-looking house with its dogs and children. Remember, Raul? Eh, Rafel? Federico, do you remember from under the ground my balconies on which the light of June drowned flowers in your mouth?
Brother, my brother! Everything loud with big voices, the salt of merchandises, pile-ups of palpitating bread, the stalls of my suburb of Arguelles with its statue like a drained inkwell in a swirl of hake: oil flowed into spoons, a deep baying of feet and hands swelled in the streets, metres, litres, the sharp measure of life, stacked-up fish, the texture of roofs with a cold sun in
which the weather vane falters, the fine, frenzied ivory of potatoes, wave on wave of tomatoes rolling down the sea. And one morning all that was burning, one morning the bonfires leapt out of the earth devouring human beings -- and from then on fire, gunpowder from then on, and from then on blood.
Face to face with you I have seen the blood of Spain tower like a tide to drown you in one wave of pride and knives! Treacherous generals: see my dead house, look at broken Spain : from every house burning metal flows instead of flowers, from every socket of Spain Spain emerges and from every dead child a rifle with eyes, and from every crime bullets are born which will one day find the bull's eye of your hearts.
Excellent video and heroic times, BUT, 3% of people in Gulags in Sovitt Russia. in a country of about 200 million people in 1939 that must of been about 6 million incarcerated. The difference is tha tthey included many dissidents, trotskyists and true marxists. US prisons today just contain murdering, raping, drug dealing scumbags. Thank gods(ess) they are in there and not on the streets.
The US has a higher prison rate (i mean more people per jail) than China does, and China has a way bigger population than America. I don't suppose Guantanamo Bay counts as a Gulag then does it? America is so hypocritical, it hurts.
No, of course not!! Only about 3% of people in Stalinist USSR were sent into prisons, labour camps, etc! Actually in modern Russia, or in the USA there much more people who were put into prisons, as well as much higher level of crime in the society!
In communists countries everyone is supposed to be equal, but, as in the Orwell's novel "Animal Farm", some are more equal than others, and the communist ruling class lives comfortably whereas the average citizen is subjugated and impoverished.
Not true!!! Stop your fascist lies on socialism!!! Actually in the Soviet Union everyone was more or less well-off! It's now that there lots millions of poor, starving and unemployed people! You see! There were no poor or unemployed people in the Soviet Union!
Fascists lies? Please, don't make me laugh. Everybody knows that communist leaders are extremely wealthy due to corruption and robbery. For instance, Fidel Castro's wealth is estimated in several hundred millions of dollars. I guess he has earnt it working very hard, hasn't he? If everyone is equal in communist countries, why do some people live in palaces (mainly the communist party's leaders) while many others live in shacks? What kind of equality is this?
Yes., fascist lies! Who of communist leaders is "extremely wealthy" of corruption and robbery! Actually Stalin used to punish everyone for corruption! And perhaps that's why you hate him so much! Also, have you ever seen bank accounts of Fidel Castro?! Stop your fascist-bouergois-capitalist lies on revolutionary leaders!!!!
Not true! In the Soviet Union there were no people living in shacks! Everyone had more or less adequate housing! While now there're really poor, homeless people and capitalists and oligarchs!!
If the people is united they will NEVER be defeated!!!! Viva la revolucion!!! For justice and peace and equality and solidarity and all the good human things!!!!
If the reds had won in Spain (which fortunately did not occur), Spain would have been just like one of those Eastern European countries subjugated by the USSR. They didn't fight for democracy, but for a soviet-like dictatorship. Actually, even before the war had broken out, they had already burnt many churches and killed a large number of priests, which does not seem a very democratic attitude.
You should ask for your psychiatrist!! One can see very good that you're just one of those Franco supporting fascists and right-wing Catholic reactionaries!
Well, thanks for truth! Ukrainian fascists prefer to call themselves "fighters for democracy"! Also, there were not just pro-Soviet CP in Popular Front - also anarchists, trotskyists (POUM), Catalan and Basque nationalists and even left liberals and radical democrats! So what "Moscow-controlled country" you speak about?! - All reactionaries are just paper tigers (Mao TseTung)!
It's obvious that the Popular Front was made up of several political forces, but the predominant and most active one was unquestionably the Communist Party, which received large amounts of money from Moscow. Furthermore, the Socialist Party, theoretically "democrat", had veered wildly to the left and openly claimed for the dictatorship of the proletariat, not for a plural democracy. As fot the other parties, they had very little real influence. Nobody in the Popular Front fought for democracy.
Well, I might be an idiot, but you're a communist, which is much worse.
No one in Franco's side pretended to fight for democracy. They fought for a united, proud and prosperous Spain. However, the reds said that they were fighting for democracy whereas their real objectives were far from that purpose. They were as hypocrite then as they are today.
Well, actually that was Popular Front government., which was absolutely democratically elected and won fair majority of votes and seats in Spanish parliament! That were fascists which started the coup! (like Pinochet later did in Chile!!). Death to all fascist-bouergois swines!!
Revolutionary greetings and support for Spanish revolution from Ukraine!!!!
A las barricadas, a las barricadas, por el triunfo de la Confederacyion!!!
Your ignorance about the History of Spain is quite evident. Didn't you know that the leftish parties tried to carry out a coup in Asturias (northern region of Spain) in October 1934, when the principal rightist party (la Confederación Española de Derechas Autónomas) democratically won the general elections? Then the left lost the legitimacy to condemn the "Alzamiento" which took place in July 1936, since they had tried to do exactly the same two years before... but they failed.
The "democratically elected government of the Popular Front" was made up of people and parties that refused to accept the democratic victory of the right coalition in 1934 and revolted violently against the result of the general elections. They weren't legitimated to condemn the Franco's 1936 rising because they had tried to do so in 1934, but they didn't succeed due to their stupidity. By the way, the Communist International killed many of its own fighters for treason. Remember Andre Marty...
1º I remind you that the attacks from the left parties against the Church or against the pro-right media began much before the beginning of the Civil War. Actually, before Franco's military rising, the left parties' leaders already publicly claimed for a violent action in order to impose a USSR-backed dictatorship, so neither the national forces nor the leftish parties wanted a liberal democracy.
2º Bloody dictatorship? I guess you're talking about Stalin, aren't you?
And capitalism is fascism, world wars, colonialism, imperialism, poverty, crisis, unemployment, poverty, 3rd world countries exploitation!!!! Actually in socialist countries people lived much better than in most of capitalist countries (if to count with 3rd world countries!)
Capitalism can't be Fascism because Fascism is the third way between Communism and Capitalism. You communists have always tried to mislead the working class to keep taking advantage of it.
If you really think that people live so well in communist countries, why don't you go to North Korea, where hundreds of thousands of people die every year because of famine? Why all the former communist countries are deeply impoverished? Capitalism has so many faults, but Communism is a complete failure.
>Capitalism can't be Fascism because Fascism >is the third way between Communism and >Capitalism.
Bua-ha-ha!! Actually fascism is a form of terroristic dictatorship of bouergosie!!!
Also, I don't speak about North Korea! I speak about all socialist countries in general! Also, why do you speak of North Korea? In this way I would say that capitalism is mostly concentrated in sub-Saharan Africa - where lots of people die of hunger every year! :-))
Fascism is an intermediate way between capitalism, and the most extreme expression of capitalism, that is, communism, where there is just one huge capitalist, the state itself. By the way, fascism was born from former left militants who supported socialism, but disdained the marxist's materialism and internationalism.
As for the African countries, I share the criticism against capitalism, as I'm not a capitalist. I don't care you can't see the difference between capitalism and fascism.
>Fascism is an intermediate way between >capitalism
Really?! Actually Marxists claim that Fascism is an open, terroristic form of the dictatorship of beourgoise!!!!
>where there is just one huge capitalist, the >state itself.
Really?!! And there were no private capitalists in Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy?!!
Also, in the Sovie Union there were no class of capitalists, - the state acted as an agent of proletarian dictatorship! You should study more of Marxist political econmics!!!!
>Why all the former communist countries are >deeply impoverished?
Well, this is actually the result of neoliberal, capitalistic reforms, performed under dictatorship of the US, EU, IMF, etc and expolitation of these countries by imperialist countries since early 1990s!!
Well, you've just told that "fascism" is something like a "3rd way", - so why are you so worried about capitalism?! Or is it simply because Franco dictatorship was actually some form of capitalistic dictatirship! Bua-ha-ha!!!
Also, actually standards of living in most of socialist countries were much higher than world average! The Soviet Union was 33rd in terms of quiality of living in 1980, approximately on the level of Spain, but with much broad system of social welfare and much better and higher quiality of education! :-)))
The Soviet Union was ruled by an extremely cruel political system which was responsible for the death of millions of people. What about the gulags? What about the purges? What about the millions of soviet citizens who "dissapeared"?
that was actually not the fault of communism or socialism! That was the fault of Stalinism! That was Stalin who was guilty for perversions of Marxism, as well as he was guilty in murders of the most dedicated communists around Europe!
Oh, so capitalism is responsible for the poverty in former communist countries... That's ridiculous. Former communist countries are deeply impoverished nowadays because of the awful economic heritage from the communist period. Why did the people from East Germany want to flee to West Germany and not on the contrary? Tell me. Perhaps because they were fed up with repression, poverty, threats and lack of freedom and needed something else to prosper.
Well, you've told that you oppose capitalism, haven;t you?! Why are you then so nervouis about capitalism?!
Yes, the deep crisis in East European countries started with the introduction of neoliberal reforms in 1990s! In Russia GDP fell by 45% in 1990-1999 period, in Ukraine GDP fell by about 60%! Before the neoliberal reforms most east-Europeans lived much better than people in vast majority of countries around the world!!
Bua-ha-ha, - taking into consideration centuries of colonialism, oppression, world imperialistic wars, and constant economic crises, including the current world economic crisis! (how is the economy of Spain dealing with it, by the way?!)
And PSOE are such kind of "socialists:" which came and nationalised the economy and put away capitalists, put forward 5-year plans of development of economy, and introduced proletarian democracy in Spain! Bua-ha-ha-ha!! PSOE "socialists" are typical bouergous party, which perform typical bouergois, neoliberal policy, in the interests of big capital! The current crisis are the death of neoliberalism and perhaps of capitalism as well!!
Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!! What supporters of Pol Pot or Kim Jong Il among Spanish Anarchists (CNT), trotskyists (POUM), social-democrats, Catalan left nationalists, left liberals, etc, etc!?!!!
I remind you that anarchists and communists were too busy killing each other to fight against the National Army led by Franco. Furthermore, among the communists themselves there was much controversy: pro-soviet communists exterminated trostkyists (what a comradeship, isn't it?) By the way, some of the most famous left liberal, such as Unamuno or Marañón began to support Franco when they realised that the so-called "Republic" was just a prelude to a Soviet-like state, not a liberal democracy.
So, what's your business about the internal disputes between leftists?! This is the problem of lefitsts themsleves and not bouergois-fascist swines!!!
I just said that the Popular Front was an absurd conglomeration of ideologically heterogeneous parties which fought against one another, and actually some of them, such as the POUM, were eventually persecuted and exterminated by the PCE.
Well, they all actually faught against Franco fascists! This is quite natural that all leftist currents (social-democrats, PCE, trotskyits, anarchists and even radical democrats and left wing of liberals) all faught aginist the most reactionary forces of evil, capitalism, oppression and reaction!!!!
Maybe it would be better changing the anthem and putting the "Himno de Riego", the Spanish Republic's national anthem, so that everyone who defend it could feel "identified" with te video. On the other hand, i have to say that this video has some mistakes. The first poster refers to "Los Nacionales", Franco's army, and the second to a "crusade" called by the Catholic Church (which was a clear ally of Franco) to fight against the Republican democracy.
How can you say that a man who banned all other regional languages of Spain and repressed everyone who spoke in those languages whas a good man? He impossed Spanish all over Spain, murdered everyone who didn't think the way he did, he gave a coup d'état, agains a democratic Republic supported by over the 80% of Spanish citizens. Spain was completely isolated, and we had a backwardness of 40 years that we are still paying.
Viva la Republica. Viva la Brigadas Internacionales. Viva la CNT FAI.
Francoists who butchered hundreds of thousands of human lives after the Civil War talk about Republic being tyrannical. What an irony. Or is it just that the kind of 'national prosperity', 'unity', or 'order' that Franco established was something that served other than the liberty and freedom of the people who are the very basic founding blocks of any kind of nation?
And Franco murdered innocent civilians about 10 times greater than the number of clergy murdered by Republicans because Fascists were scourage of the common men. Of course, unless you are suggesting that lives of Spanish clergy who did no work but lie to the workers and peasants in order to suppress their anguishes are times more valueable than those of countless honest, common people killed under Fascist regime.
you have no idea,just imagine that your own army do the war against his people support by mussolini,hitler and the church with a brutallity that never seen before in europa, And the only who help the democratic goverment was rusia and the braves brigadas internacionales.Of course the republicans killed priest but you dont know how many republicans was killed and tortured in the war,and a lot of more after the war.VIVA LA REPUBLICA,VIVA LAS BRIGADAS INTERNACIOLNALES
Republican Spain vas violently anti-christian even before the civil war so I wont shed a tear for the republics death. Im no expert on this war but I would never support A "Republic" (really a tyranny in diguise.) My family is Spanish so if I had to Choose FRANCO YOUVE GOT A VOLUNTEER!
hi. I suppose the republic in Spain was not the best thing ever, but was a CIVIL WAR BETTER??.and WAS FRANCO a DEMOCRAT? don't think so. ALL BECAUSE SOME GENERALS WANTED POWER!!. Spain is not totally develop yet because of civil war.
Actually if you read the history the Republican's Atheism was grossly overstated by their enemies. Honest priests who took the vow of poverty seriously went unmolested. As a matter of interest do you believe in the overthrow of all democratically elected governments you happen to disagree with ?
And it is ludicrous to say that the Arab troops were Franco's best. Sounds like PC revisionism to me. 7000-something dead priests and nuns sounds like blood-soaked anti-clericalism to me too. I support the overthrow of democratic governments whose policies are fatal to the nation or the Church. One example would be the current American regime which not only allows, but promotes, a Third World immigration invasion that is displacing the native White population of the United States.
Nope, the Moorish troops were the best because they kept their heads down and had a natural sense of the lie of the land and didn't stand up and be shot like many of the Spanish. As to 7000 dead priests and nuns overlooks the many priests and nuns who didn't spy for Franco and were known to be true to their vows and didn't support the Nazi backed Coup d'Etat. My info mainly comes from Anthony Beevor's "The Battle for Spain" btw.
Yeah? What page? Don't you think it's somewhat ludicrous to say that after-what?- 1500 years of military tradition, the Spanish hadn't yet developed the concept of taking cover?
Weirdly enough... no. Remember that Spain hadn't fought in WW1 and had really hadn't changed their ideas much since Napoleonic times. When the USA stole their colonies the Spanish were doing some pretty dumb things too if you read about it. As many of the soldiers were half-trained milita, they believed in machismo and just didn't duck in case they were called cowards. Different times, different country, makes no sense to me either.
You were going to cite the page for me? Funny how it was the Moors who were the vassals of the Spaniards, but you denigrate the Spaniards military capacity.
Yes, this does seem to be an accident of history, lol, but the amount of territory in North Africa which Spain owns, namely "the Rif", is pretty small. The moors had been fighting insurgencies to win their independence against Spain and the French, and had more of a grasp of modern warfare as a result. Some hired on as mercenaries for Franco and were well regarded for their ability to use terrain to their advantage. Spanish civilian militia by comparison just chose not to.
The North Africans weren't regulars, they were mercenaries, and frankly I give credit where it's due. Do I like the Franco regime ? Hell no. But there is little question that its best soldiers were the Moors, just like the International Brigades were the best republican fighters. Hardly surprising as they were all veterans of other conflicts. In any case, are you a skinhead or something ?
Again- what person of intellect says that they were Franco's best soldiers? And who says that the ragtag International Brigades were the Republic's best soldiers? That kind of denigrates the Spanish military, eh? A skinhead? No. I'm just a White man who still recognizes that fact.
I take my info from Paul Bervours' recent "The Spanish Civil War" 600 pages or so and a damn good read. Similarly, if you aren't a skinhead or some other sort of demented racist, why does it even matter what skin colour/racial type fared better ? History is about finding out what happened from the documents of the day, and Franco praised his moors as being more effective fighters than his Spanish regulars repeatedly.
American white people are not native to North America. They too are immigrants or descendants of immigrants. Or do you just draw lines in time where it suits? I realise you are an ignoramus but try to answer this. Freedom of market, freedom of capital - then why not freedom of labour? That is perfect capitalism. What's your complaint?
How utterly stupid. It wasn't the Indians who built the United States of America, it was the White man. And when that White, European civilization had reached its peak, a government of jews and communists passed a law in 1965 which opened our borders to the rest of the world. You're the ignoramus if you think that because we allowed in tons of White immigrants in 1908 we should allow our country to become non-White through immigration in 2008. Study logic, idiot, and try making sense.
What garbage you utter, moron. You can only see the world in one way. Your way. I'm sure the Indians were doing fine before Europenas arrived. What about the Jews you let in? Do you think they are white or not? They came earlier than 1908. What about the forced immigrants that picked your damned cotton! They weren't white. And who were the communists in 1965? You are just a tired, sad old white supremacist. It is captialists that like open borders for cheap labour you jerk. You have no logic.
You're raving, old man. The point is:it was the White man who built the United States, its economy, culture, military, etc. Not black menials, not Indian savages: White people. Why you assume I'm a capitalist, I don't know. Not that being a capitalist requires one to support their own's country's destruction through open immigration. The communists in 1965 were the jews and their allies in Congress who passed the bill that opened our borders. And I'm young enough to hope to see your kind buried
You don't get it! The US, for right or wrong, was built on capitalism. I don't assume you are a capitalist per se. I'm saying the US was built on capitalism and continues to be capitalist. The situation you have now is a natural extension of that philosophy. Your words indicate that you do not recognise that China, India, the Arabs and others also have had great civilizations. You are a dinosaur, sonny. Facing extinction because you can't adapt nor see that we are all just a flash in time.
Well, if the US was capitalist since the beginning, why was it only in 1965 that we decided that race doesn't matter and we might as well deluge ourselves with Third World immigrants? I'm sure capitalism had a role, but it was also left-wing indoctrination and subversion. Stating the obvious fact that the US was built by Whites doesn't mean that one doesn't acknowledge the civilizations of India, China etc. Making that conclusion only exposes your own confusion.
Ah! So you can see some worth in non-whites, just not in the US. Well I suppose that's a start. To me this date of 1965 doesn't add up. The US had many non-white immigrants before then. You make it sound as if there was a deliberate policy to exclude other races, whereas it just wasn't an issue historically. The reality is that whites around the world generally looked upon non-whites as inferior until 20th cent. It wasn't even questioned. Do you think no non-white immigrants can contribute?
Before that act was passed, the US was around90% White, and about 10% black, with other races filling in the cracks. You are uninformed to say that we didn't have racial immigration laws. Really ignorant. Certain other races can contribute- east Asians, high-caste Indians, yes. Niggers, spics, no. In any case, we don't need them. It is European/White civilization which is history's greatest, in every respect, and it was done by us alone. We don't need to be overrun with non-White races.
You are right. I wasn't aware just how racist the US is historically. However, it is evident that the earliest attempts to keep power in the US white were aimed not so much at immigrants but indigenous folk and Negroes. Later legislation appears to be much more specific and aimed at ensuring that your extending empire didn't give rights to those it encompassed, generally. Not by "us alone", though Richmond, because without the Arabs there would be no algebra nor universities even.
Stop, stop, stop!! American indians were the true owners oif that land, the Americas. You Americans who defend so much your lands now, are sons of ancient British prisoners who were sent to the New World by queen Elisabeth I. You anre defending a land you stole from native Americans, by means of totally unequal wars against the true owners, and don't forget they hosted you all as their own sons. Yeah, rifles against spears. How brave are you...
Your history is wrong. White settlers of America were mostly free. You're thinking of Australia. The rest of your comments are just too dumb to notice.
Yeah well, people who live well in their countries don't usually go to settle a continent they don't even know about, just because they want to. The noblemen, rich people and people who lived O.K. in England didn't go to America.
And the reason I don't want freedom of labour is because #1 it's not just about "labour". Despite the fuss about illegals sucking away free social services (which is true), the problem is immigrants becoming citizens and dispossessing native, White Americans from their own land. Outnumbering actual Americans is the problem.
You just don't understand the forces at work, do you? This is EXACTLY where capitalism leads. You move the work out to where its cheaper, or move cheap labour in. People see your wealth and want it. They want a better life. Don't you realise that our wealth is made off the backs of the rest of the world? Capitalism is a pyramid system. Welfare systems are abused by all types, but that is another debate. All empires collapse, usually from the inside. Look at history. The US is not unique.
What a stupid old British red. Our wealth is made off the backs of the rest of the world?? I suppose that sort of platitude makes useless and unproductive niggers feel better. Capitalism has its problems, but if anything it has helped the Turd World and beggared the masses of the West. Move to Cuba, commie.
This is like talking to a child. Captitalism and empires exploit all resources wherever to the maximum they are able. No platitude. We are passing through the US's turn to exploit. I'd rather be a red than to be a racist, unintelligent ranter such as you. Your only construct is based on an imbecilic idea that US society is the height of man's achievement whereas in the grand scheme of things in most areas you are cultural minnows. Open your eyes and your mind. You might even like it.
You're fighting a straw man- I never said anything of the sort. I'm done arguing with a fool. Well, you dessicated old red, have a good day and pray to Marx that one of the Moslems you've imported doesn't blow you up today or otherwise kill you or yours.
You're trying to convince a stone. I've also argued with this guy, but he's very conservative. Unfortunately he is not an exeption in the American society. Here in Spain there are quite a few people thinking like him, even though we've had less influence of black people. Let's say that this sector of their society hasn't mentally progrossed since the XVIII century, when they scored the independence.
You're trying to convince a stone. I've also argued with this guy, but he's very conservative. Unfortunately he is not an exeption in the American society. Here in Spain there are quite a few people thinking like him, even though we've had less influence of black people. Let's say that this sector of their society hasn't mentally progrossed since the XVIII century, when they scored the independence.
And soon your faggot dictator Castro's regime will follow the Spanish Republic into the dust. And you want to know a secret about your beloved Cuban 5? They've been "flipped" in prison. They've been getting their asses reamed by niggers all these years, and they found out that they like it!
I never supported communism as it was in the USSR, I never supported communist dictators, such as Stalin, Lennin and Mao. First and before calling everyone communist try to enquire yourselve about the Spanish Republic. The communist party was only one of the several parties who voted in favor of the Republic, others were the Republican ones, Basque nationalist and Catalan nationalist parties... and it was a decision of ALL of them to form a Republic.
If that was so, it was because the USSR was the only country who was about giving a complete military support to the Republic to fight fascism, because although the Republic had volunteers from other democratic countries, they weren't able to fight two world powers an Germany and Itally, as I told you before.
But don't say Franco was a great man because he was a complete jerk, and don't say the Spanish Republic was a socialist tyranny even before the war, because that's totally demagogy and please get informed before you speak about something, there is enough ignorance and manipulation in the world, don't join that club.
And I never supported Castro, every dictatorship isn't fair, no matter thir ideology. Just try not to get manipulated by fascist comments ond beliefs, nor absolutly conservative American thoughts. If african moslems want to come to Spain it's because we've amde progress, otherwishe they would stay in their counties. You, Americans, also have quite a lot of illegal immigrants, mainly Mexicans.
You are truly a simpleton. Are we debating why we are being invaded? The point is that we are being invaded- you by Islam, we by everyone. You seem ok with being taken over and dispossessed. I say- "Franco! Come back! We need you!"
We are NOT being invaded, the more foreign people we have, the more we'll know about their way of living and the more "opened" we'll have our minds to people that are not from the same country. I agree we have to keep our traditions and languages, but please don't be soooo conservative, if the ones that come here work as we do, I am content. The US without foreigners is nothing more than a common country.
Who would have paied to Usain Bolt to go to the US? And most basketball palyer, are they WHITE? What about Obama? Hip-hop, blues, jazz... go and read a History book please, but not only the American ones, you think the US is the center of the world and the culture and the studies there are much lower than in Europe. If you want Franco to come back, then say him to go to your country. And you fucking IGNORANT, the Spanish Republic WASN'T A COMMUNIST COUNTRY!!!
Actually, as the Olympics show, White players are just as good as blacks. Probably better, since they have brains and use them to their advantage during a game. So blacks can throw a ball and bang a drum- what a grand contribution. I don't think the US is the center of the world. I'm quite well informed, which is why I don't want my country turning into Africa or Mexico. Viva Franco!
Thanks for posting this excellent video DjeseretMenace. When I was in Barcelona 4 years ago, I was fortunate to catch a special exhibit in their local history museum about Juan Negrin, the last president (or?) of Republican Spain. There were four rooms of posters from all sides of the civil war (POUM, the anarcho-syndicalists, Stalinist Marxists, Falange, Carlists....). I was in awe. Two days later I went to Guernica and the day after I saw Picasso's Geurnica at one of the museums in Madrid.
marcfedak 5 months ago
You reds try to make yourselves the victims, why don't you talk about the defenseless preists who were butchered by these filth? You commie bastards got what you deserved when you lost Spain.
FistofAmerica 5 months ago
@FistofAmerica who's making themselves out to be the victims, now? The Catholic Church always supported the murderous "pistoleros"... the priests who were "butchered" presided over the butchering of workers at the hands of paid fascists for decades before the civil war. The priests supported monarchy and opposed republic form of government, not to mention the Catholic Church's attempt at self preservation over their moral duty to defend the Jews against Hitler's barbarities. Get over yourself
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Long live the Christianity !!!! Fuck atheists and communists !!!!!
gabrielooss 9 months ago
stanilistas de mierdas, mas facha de los fachas, asesinos de libertarios. the comunist kill and torture many many pepole that dont thinkl like they want, he kill a lot of revulotionaris for political interes, the bild an army like the fascist army, they was nazi comunist
long live to CNT
EkjlefjkWakeTankaj 9 months ago
La republica fue tan mala o mas que Franco... no se por que la aclaman tanto..
Ereziel 10 months ago
dedicated to my stepfather, a republican veteran from that war. thanks for sharing this
VegaEtereo 11 months ago
El bien mas preciado es la libertad! Hay que defenderla con fe y valor! Alza la bandera revolucionaria que llevara al pueblo a la emancipacion!
DurrutisGhost 1 year ago
Oh the Catholic Church was an enemy of Fascism and Naziism...so we are told...
dudemantwo 1 year ago
@dudemantwo
LOL...and they cry about priests being executed by communists. I say good. The only good fascist collaborating catholic priest is a dead one.
jumpnjza2 1 year ago
para comprender la revolución de 1936 recomiendo la lectura del libro "memorias de un anarquista de angués en la guerra la revolución y la guerrilla" revelador
1492921 1 year ago
Your video is both good and bad. Your facts are correct, but your interpretation of them will only please people who are basically "leftists."
The Republic was not very fair. Before the war started, policemen actually stood by and watched "Republicans" burn churches. Policemen also assassinated a leading conservative politician, Sotello.
That was like Obama's Police kidnapping Rush Limbaugh and dumping the body.
ctbarfield 1 year ago
Viva the platitudes. Did you know that Soviet Union bled the Republic's gold supply for their aid. Meanwhile, the democratic nations looked the other way while the Fascists tested their weapons. The left and the right... both think they got it sussed but its the innocents that are dead in the middle. A pox on all your politics.
davidldls 1 year ago
ur speaking like a socialdemocrat....
MaoZedong7 1 year ago
it was the stalin backed communists that destroy everything. all over the world, communists always act that way - the end of their utopia will be authoritarianism which we have seen and continue to see. Bakunin have foresee all these when he departed from Marx.
Viva Anarcho-Syndicalism!
Viva C.N.T.!
down with all authoritarianism and dictatorship, left and right!
kazearaki 2 years ago 4
@kazearaki
Without Stalin's guns, Republican Spain would have gotten their asses handed to them a lot sooner.
jumpnjza2 1 year ago
@jumpnjza2 Typical fascist mindset-what about the condor legion,what about the Italian conscripts sent by Mussolini,what about Franco North African rapist troops?.Franco would have lost in 3 months without his fascist friends,the republic had a democratically elected govt who were betrayed by the allies in the first act of appeasement of fascism.The fascists rot in hell forgotten whilst Durruti,la pasionara and the international brigades are remembered as the heroes they are!
swfcocs1 9 months ago
@swfcocs1
Yeah I agree. Which one of my posts are you responding to?
jumpnjza2 9 months ago
@jumpnjza2 I was replying to your post about Stalins help stopping the republicans getting their "asses handed to them" I fear I misinterpreted your comment as pro franco.For that I apologize.On the other hand I`ve gotta agree with your remark about the Priests getting killed by communists.the church in Spain were involved with the fascist forces before,during and after their bloody coup,handing out "God`s blessing" to the murderous falange and carlists.They got their just punishment as enemies
swfcocs1 9 months ago
@swfcocs1
No worries. My only point was that the 'Land and Freedom' explanation of what happens isn't entirely correct. The anarchists and the POUM should have understood the benefits that come with a regular army. The Soviets had already shown the internal proletariat how to smash the reactionaries in the civil war and also how to deal with foreign interventionists! Not saying Stalin handled Soviet involvement well by any means, but the big bad Stalin theory is wrong, he had a point.
jumpnjza2 9 months ago
@jumpnjza2 Yeah,it`s a complex issue,but on balance I`ve gotta agree that a regular army prevented a quicker fascist victory.The problem was that Stalins invaluable assistence came with the arrival of the NKVD.Whilst successful in rooting out fsacist sympathizers,they also turned on all leftist rivals,particularly anarchists and the POUM.The crackdown in Barcelona in particular had a devastating effect on worker revolutionary morale,one of the republics strongest weapons!
swfcocs1 9 months ago
@swfcocs1
I agree with you, the sectarian divisions created by the CPSU's policies were devastating. It's the arrogance a degenerated workers state has in knowing that they're the only source of support for the besieged republic. They feel they have license to dictate terms without having to negotiate. Fact is that the mass of workers supported the non-comintern workers parties (POUM, CNT). I agree with you on the NKVD.
jumpnjza2 9 months ago
@jumpnjza2 Have you read "the battle for Spain" by Anthony Beevor.It`s a fantastic definitive account of the war.The international brigade memorial trust has also got a good website.I`ve just watched a tremendous doc on utbe called " the spanish civil war-a prelude to tragedy" It`s on an account called georgeorwell.Theres loads of great docs on that channel.well worth a look.
best wishes!
swfcocs1 9 months ago
@jumpnjza2 Regarding "land and freedom",it is written from a POUM perspective and as someone who is closer politically to a POUM point of view than the other leftist movements I can see the films point.The sense of betrayal felt by the POUM(and the anarchists of the CNT/FAI) at being crushed by other leftists must have been overwhelming! It would have been a nightmare balancing act though,combining revolutionary zeal with a regular army,something the bolsheviks faced in the Russian civil war!
swfcocs1 9 months ago
No Pasaran! Solidarity forever, the Union makes us strong. The left has never been defeated - Socialists, Anarchists and Communists need to unite to stand up for the working class.
CountryQuestion 2 years ago
way to bash the church.
B0MB4L4 2 years ago
REVOLUCION
bassplayer489 2 years ago
Viva la CNT anarqista!
Nederlandac 2 years ago 2
anda jaleo suena la ametralladora y franco se va apaseo
annadecola 2 years ago
A por la lll REPUBLICA y la 4 INTERNACIONAL.
Desde aqui mi homenage a los bricadistas cubanos que lucharon y murieron en defensa de la REPUBLICA ESPAÑOLA
karita96 2 years ago
GREAT!!!!!
Worker, on your feet. To battle!
Reaction must be overthrown.
To the barricades, to the barricades!
For the triumph of the Confederation!
To the barricades, to the barricades!
For the triumph of the Confederation!
grummeper 2 years ago 2
viva la españa de los 3 colores
odolx 2 years ago 6
Viva los héroes que vinieron desde el extragero a luchar por la Libertad y la Democracia en España.
Viva las Brigadas Internacionales!
JuanCarandell 2 years ago 22
A muchos de esos supuestos "héroes" los mandó matar uno de los jefazos de las Brigadas Internacionales, André Marty (el famoso "Carnicero de Albacete"), por indisciplina y cobardía.
Por otra parte, no venían a luchar por la libertad. Venían para instaurar en España un régimen al estilo soviético... y digo yo, ¿eso es luchar por la democracia? Diría que no.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
No creas, la mayoría de los Anglosajones si iban por los ideales que he dicho abajo, cierto es que había muchos comunistas y sovietistas, pero también muchos democratas.
JuanCarandell 2 years ago
@JuanCarandell Tiocfaidh ár lá.
drciaran 1 year ago
@JuanCarandell ¡Que vivan! :')
VegaEtereo 11 months ago
Sorry to tell this nice anthem only represent one part of the supports to the Republic, this was the CNT´s anthem, or the Spanish anarchism, the Republic was better represented by their oficial anthem, Riego´s anthem.
Amatherasu1789 2 years ago
I'm Explaining a Few Things
You are going to ask: and where are the lilacs?
and the poppy-petalled metaphysics?
and the rain repeatedly spattering
its words and drilling them full
of apertures and birds?
I'll tell you all the news.
zsylvana 2 years ago 2
zsylvana 2 years ago 2
zsylvana 2 years ago 2
zsylvana 2 years ago 2
Bandits with planes and Moors,
bandits with finger-rings and duchesses,
bandits with black friars spattering blessings
came through the sky to kill children
and the blood of children ran through the streets
without fuss, like children's blood.
Jackals that the jackals would despise,
stones that the dry thistle would bite on and spit out,
vipers that the vipers would abominate!
zsylvana 2 years ago 3
zsylvana 2 years ago 3
I'm Explaining a Few Things!
And you'll ask: why doesn't his poetry
speak of dreams and leaves
and the great volcanoes of his native land?
Come and see the blood in the streets.
Come and see
The blood in the streets.
Come and see the blood
In the streets!
Pablo Neruda
zsylvana 2 years ago 3
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Hitler was democratically elected too.Bolshevik pieces of filth! Viva Franco!!!!!
IBERJEN 2 years ago
Excellent video and heroic times, BUT, 3% of people in Gulags in Sovitt Russia. in a country of about 200 million people in 1939 that must of been about 6 million incarcerated. The difference is tha tthey included many dissidents, trotskyists and true marxists. US prisons today just contain murdering, raping, drug dealing scumbags. Thank gods(ess) they are in there and not on the streets.
avalonadam 2 years ago
The US has a higher prison rate (i mean more people per jail) than China does, and China has a way bigger population than America. I don't suppose Guantanamo Bay counts as a Gulag then does it? America is so hypocritical, it hurts.
ramberghini 2 years ago
I think we could count Gitmo as a gulag. No habius corpus. No head to the right on which the US constituaion was based.
avalonadam 2 years ago
Great! Simply great song!!!! Revolutionary greetings to Spanish Revolution from Ukraine!!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
By the way, you've said that "there were no poor or unemployed people in the Soviet Union"... perhaps because they had been sent to a gulag?
bunkernacional 2 years ago
No, of course not!! Only about 3% of people in Stalinist USSR were sent into prisons, labour camps, etc! Actually in modern Russia, or in the USA there much more people who were put into prisons, as well as much higher level of crime in the society!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
CNT FAI Forever, NO PASARAN
robinofleiceste 2 years ago
robinofleiceste: I believe that "ellos pasaron".
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Long Live Popular Front!
Viva Fronte Popular!
Viva Internacional Communista!
Vina Partido Comunista de Espana!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
In communists countries everyone is supposed to be equal, but, as in the Orwell's novel "Animal Farm", some are more equal than others, and the communist ruling class lives comfortably whereas the average citizen is subjugated and impoverished.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Not true!!! Stop your fascist lies on socialism!!! Actually in the Soviet Union everyone was more or less well-off! It's now that there lots millions of poor, starving and unemployed people! You see! There were no poor or unemployed people in the Soviet Union!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Fascists lies? Please, don't make me laugh. Everybody knows that communist leaders are extremely wealthy due to corruption and robbery. For instance, Fidel Castro's wealth is estimated in several hundred millions of dollars. I guess he has earnt it working very hard, hasn't he? If everyone is equal in communist countries, why do some people live in palaces (mainly the communist party's leaders) while many others live in shacks? What kind of equality is this?
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Yes., fascist lies! Who of communist leaders is "extremely wealthy" of corruption and robbery! Actually Stalin used to punish everyone for corruption! And perhaps that's why you hate him so much! Also, have you ever seen bank accounts of Fidel Castro?! Stop your fascist-bouergois-capitalist lies on revolutionary leaders!!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Not true! In the Soviet Union there were no people living in shacks! Everyone had more or less adequate housing! While now there're really poor, homeless people and capitalists and oligarchs!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
!No Pasarán!
91RAF 2 years ago
If the people is united they will NEVER be defeated!!!! Viva la revolucion!!! For justice and peace and equality and solidarity and all the good human things!!!!
klasomentas 3 years ago
If the reds had won in Spain (which fortunately did not occur), Spain would have been just like one of those Eastern European countries subjugated by the USSR. They didn't fight for democracy, but for a soviet-like dictatorship. Actually, even before the war had broken out, they had already burnt many churches and killed a large number of priests, which does not seem a very democratic attitude.
Regards from Spain.
bunkernacional 3 years ago
The reds won, betraying the revolution, and then they were defeated by the fascists, which is just the other side of the f***ing coin.
Bring down the system...any of them...
FedirSchys 3 years ago
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The fascists did not win. The Nationalists won, which means there is a God. Reds are subhuman.
KaaVap 3 years ago
You should ask for your psychiatrist!! One can see very good that you're just one of those Franco supporting fascists and right-wing Catholic reactionaries!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Of couse I am. Well, not a reactionary, but a fascist, specifically a phalangist (that is, a national-syndicalist), and I'm highly proud of it.
The reds intended to make Spain a atheist, Moscow-controlled country. Franco avoided it, that's why so many Spaniards keep being grateful to him.
VIVA FRANCO
ARRIBA ESPAÑA
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Well, thanks for truth! Ukrainian fascists prefer to call themselves "fighters for democracy"! Also, there were not just pro-Soviet CP in Popular Front - also anarchists, trotskyists (POUM), Catalan and Basque nationalists and even left liberals and radical democrats! So what "Moscow-controlled country" you speak about?! - All reactionaries are just paper tigers (Mao TseTung)!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
It's obvious that the Popular Front was made up of several political forces, but the predominant and most active one was unquestionably the Communist Party, which received large amounts of money from Moscow. Furthermore, the Socialist Party, theoretically "democrat", had veered wildly to the left and openly claimed for the dictatorship of the proletariat, not for a plural democracy. As fot the other parties, they had very little real influence. Nobody in the Popular Front fought for democracy.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Well, sure that were crazy, idiotic, bloody Franco fascists who faught for democracy!!! YOU'RE IDIOT!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Well, I might be an idiot, but you're a communist, which is much worse.
No one in Franco's side pretended to fight for democracy. They fought for a united, proud and prosperous Spain. However, the reds said that they were fighting for democracy whereas their real objectives were far from that purpose. They were as hypocrite then as they are today.
VIVA FRANCO
ARRIBA ESPAÑA
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Well, actually that was Popular Front government., which was absolutely democratically elected and won fair majority of votes and seats in Spanish parliament! That were fascists which started the coup! (like Pinochet later did in Chile!!). Death to all fascist-bouergois swines!!
Revolutionary greetings and support for Spanish revolution from Ukraine!!!!
A las barricadas, a las barricadas, por el triunfo de la Confederacyion!!!
Viva ComIntern!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Your ignorance about the History of Spain is quite evident. Didn't you know that the leftish parties tried to carry out a coup in Asturias (northern region of Spain) in October 1934, when the principal rightist party (la Confederación Española de Derechas Autónomas) democratically won the general elections? Then the left lost the legitimacy to condemn the "Alzamiento" which took place in July 1936, since they had tried to do exactly the same two years before... but they failed.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Well, actually the Civil War was started by Franco fascists, against actually democratically elected government of Popular Front!!!
So, how much people do Communist Internationat beed to send to Spain to kill all those dirty, rotten Franco fascists?!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
The "democratically elected government of the Popular Front" was made up of people and parties that refused to accept the democratic victory of the right coalition in 1934 and revolted violently against the result of the general elections. They weren't legitimated to condemn the Franco's 1936 rising because they had tried to do so in 1934, but they didn't succeed due to their stupidity. By the way, the Communist International killed many of its own fighters for treason. Remember Andre Marty...
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Well, of course, instead of democratic socialist republic Spain got bloody fascist fictatorship!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
1º I remind you that the attacks from the left parties against the Church or against the pro-right media began much before the beginning of the Civil War. Actually, before Franco's military rising, the left parties' leaders already publicly claimed for a violent action in order to impose a USSR-backed dictatorship, so neither the national forces nor the leftish parties wanted a liberal democracy.
2º Bloody dictatorship? I guess you're talking about Stalin, aren't you?
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Death to all Francoist fascist swines!!! Long live revolutionary Marxism and International Socialism!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Which socialism? Pol Pot's socialism? Stalin's socialism? Kim-Jong il's socialism? Mao's socialism?
SOCIALISM = POVERTY, SLAVERY, REPRESSION, GENOCIDE, CRUELTY, FAILURE.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
And capitalism is fascism, world wars, colonialism, imperialism, poverty, crisis, unemployment, poverty, 3rd world countries exploitation!!!! Actually in socialist countries people lived much better than in most of capitalist countries (if to count with 3rd world countries!)
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Capitalism can't be Fascism because Fascism is the third way between Communism and Capitalism. You communists have always tried to mislead the working class to keep taking advantage of it.
If you really think that people live so well in communist countries, why don't you go to North Korea, where hundreds of thousands of people die every year because of famine? Why all the former communist countries are deeply impoverished? Capitalism has so many faults, but Communism is a complete failure.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
>Capitalism can't be Fascism because Fascism >is the third way between Communism and >Capitalism.
Bua-ha-ha!! Actually fascism is a form of terroristic dictatorship of bouergosie!!!
Also, I don't speak about North Korea! I speak about all socialist countries in general! Also, why do you speak of North Korea? In this way I would say that capitalism is mostly concentrated in sub-Saharan Africa - where lots of people die of hunger every year! :-))
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Fascism is an intermediate way between capitalism, and the most extreme expression of capitalism, that is, communism, where there is just one huge capitalist, the state itself. By the way, fascism was born from former left militants who supported socialism, but disdained the marxist's materialism and internationalism.
As for the African countries, I share the criticism against capitalism, as I'm not a capitalist. I don't care you can't see the difference between capitalism and fascism.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
>Fascism is an intermediate way between >capitalism
Really?! Actually Marxists claim that Fascism is an open, terroristic form of the dictatorship of beourgoise!!!!
>where there is just one huge capitalist, the >state itself.
Really?!! And there were no private capitalists in Franco's Spain or Mussolini's Italy?!!
Also, in the Sovie Union there were no class of capitalists, - the state acted as an agent of proletarian dictatorship! You should study more of Marxist political econmics!!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
>By the way, fascism was born from former left >militants who supported socialism, but >disdained the marxist's materialism and >internationalism.
Well, in this case you should not be so nervous and hostile towards leftist militants. But you do! Bua-ha-ha!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
>Why all the former communist countries are >deeply impoverished?
Well, this is actually the result of neoliberal, capitalistic reforms, performed under dictatorship of the US, EU, IMF, etc and expolitation of these countries by imperialist countries since early 1990s!!
Well, you've just told that "fascism" is something like a "3rd way", - so why are you so worried about capitalism?! Or is it simply because Franco dictatorship was actually some form of capitalistic dictatirship! Bua-ha-ha!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Also, actually standards of living in most of socialist countries were much higher than world average! The Soviet Union was 33rd in terms of quiality of living in 1980, approximately on the level of Spain, but with much broad system of social welfare and much better and higher quiality of education! :-)))
peterkvideo 2 years ago
The Soviet Union was ruled by an extremely cruel political system which was responsible for the death of millions of people. What about the gulags? What about the purges? What about the millions of soviet citizens who "dissapeared"?
bunkernacional 2 years ago
that was actually not the fault of communism or socialism! That was the fault of Stalinism! That was Stalin who was guilty for perversions of Marxism, as well as he was guilty in murders of the most dedicated communists around Europe!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Oh, so capitalism is responsible for the poverty in former communist countries... That's ridiculous. Former communist countries are deeply impoverished nowadays because of the awful economic heritage from the communist period. Why did the people from East Germany want to flee to West Germany and not on the contrary? Tell me. Perhaps because they were fed up with repression, poverty, threats and lack of freedom and needed something else to prosper.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Well, you've told that you oppose capitalism, haven;t you?! Why are you then so nervouis about capitalism?!
Yes, the deep crisis in East European countries started with the introduction of neoliberal reforms in 1990s! In Russia GDP fell by 45% in 1990-1999 period, in Ukraine GDP fell by about 60%! Before the neoliberal reforms most east-Europeans lived much better than people in vast majority of countries around the world!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
>Capitalism has so many faults,
Bua-ha-ha, - taking into consideration centuries of colonialism, oppression, world imperialistic wars, and constant economic crises, including the current world economic crisis! (how is the economy of Spain dealing with it, by the way?!)
peterkvideo 2 years ago
I insist on the fact that I'm very critical of capitalism, but I'm also aware of the uselessness of communism.
The Spanish economy is in very bad condition, maybe because our prime minister is a socialist.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
And PSOE are such kind of "socialists:" which came and nationalised the economy and put away capitalists, put forward 5-year plans of development of economy, and introduced proletarian democracy in Spain! Bua-ha-ha-ha!! PSOE "socialists" are typical bouergous party, which perform typical bouergois, neoliberal policy, in the interests of big capital! The current crisis are the death of neoliberalism and perhaps of capitalism as well!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha!!!! What supporters of Pol Pot or Kim Jong Il among Spanish Anarchists (CNT), trotskyists (POUM), social-democrats, Catalan left nationalists, left liberals, etc, etc!?!!!
IDIOT!!!!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
I remind you that anarchists and communists were too busy killing each other to fight against the National Army led by Franco. Furthermore, among the communists themselves there was much controversy: pro-soviet communists exterminated trostkyists (what a comradeship, isn't it?) By the way, some of the most famous left liberal, such as Unamuno or Marañón began to support Franco when they realised that the so-called "Republic" was just a prelude to a Soviet-like state, not a liberal democracy.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
So, what's your business about the internal disputes between leftists?! This is the problem of lefitsts themsleves and not bouergois-fascist swines!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
I just said that the Popular Front was an absurd conglomeration of ideologically heterogeneous parties which fought against one another, and actually some of them, such as the POUM, were eventually persecuted and exterminated by the PCE.
bunkernacional 2 years ago
Well, they all actually faught against Franco fascists! This is quite natural that all leftist currents (social-democrats, PCE, trotskyits, anarchists and even radical democrats and left wing of liberals) all faught aginist the most reactionary forces of evil, capitalism, oppression and reaction!!!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
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Viva Cristo Rey! Arriba Espana! Viva Franco!
strategus999 3 years ago
Hijo de puta.
fiscornioman 3 years ago 5
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ramberghini 3 years ago
This was an anarcho syndicalist song, not necessarily all of the republican army.
KenCat1337 3 years ago
You're right, the Republican anthem was "El Himno del Riego".
repfed 3 years ago
Correct. I suggest the poster of this video to fix the title.
Preferably "Homage to the Anarcho Sydicalist Fighters of the Spanish Civil War", for this is their song.
KenCat1337 3 years ago
Maybe it would be better changing the anthem and putting the "Himno de Riego", the Spanish Republic's national anthem, so that everyone who defend it could feel "identified" with te video. On the other hand, i have to say that this video has some mistakes. The first poster refers to "Los Nacionales", Franco's army, and the second to a "crusade" called by the Catholic Church (which was a clear ally of Franco) to fight against the Republican democracy.
repfed 3 years ago
Any poster from POUM?
alexchania 3 years ago
Viva la República!!!
Fascists go home!
misterpera94 3 years ago
Richmond,follow the worms.
poneil69 3 years ago
There were thousands italians with the republicans ! My grandfather was one of them !
blostier 3 years ago
Hey,Richmond,hows the old immigration going?Are the "Americans" treating you migrants O.K.
poneil69 3 years ago
Huh? I am an American, seeing my country overrun by barbarians. I know how the 5th century Roman felt.
richmond450 3 years ago
How can you say that a man who banned all other regional languages of Spain and repressed everyone who spoke in those languages whas a good man? He impossed Spanish all over Spain, murdered everyone who didn't think the way he did, he gave a coup d'état, agains a democratic Republic supported by over the 80% of Spanish citizens. Spain was completely isolated, and we had a backwardness of 40 years that we are still paying.
repfed 3 years ago
Viva Lorca!Viva la Republica
barcelonaterry 3 years ago 3
Viva la Republica. Viva la Brigadas Internacionales. Viva la CNT FAI.
Francoists who butchered hundreds of thousands of human lives after the Civil War talk about Republic being tyrannical. What an irony. Or is it just that the kind of 'national prosperity', 'unity', or 'order' that Franco established was something that served other than the liberty and freedom of the people who are the very basic founding blocks of any kind of nation?
hungryasshit 3 years ago
'internationalist' brigades murdered tons of nuns and clerics because the internationalists were communists.
ste77sa 3 years ago
And Franco murdered innocent civilians about 10 times greater than the number of clergy murdered by Republicans because Fascists were scourage of the common men. Of course, unless you are suggesting that lives of Spanish clergy who did no work but lie to the workers and peasants in order to suppress their anguishes are times more valueable than those of countless honest, common people killed under Fascist regime.
hungryasshit 3 years ago
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What a bunch of stinkin' cockroaches. General Franco did a lot for higienyze this world, but it seems clearly that it wasn't far enough.
mutterschied 3 years ago
you have no idea,just imagine that your own army do the war against his people support by mussolini,hitler and the church with a brutallity that never seen before in europa, And the only who help the democratic goverment was rusia and the braves brigadas internacionales.Of course the republicans killed priest but you dont know how many republicans was killed and tortured in the war,and a lot of more after the war.VIVA LA REPUBLICA,VIVA LAS BRIGADAS INTERNACIOLNALES
adraingaliza82 3 years ago 2
Juan Carlos was one of Francisco Franco's best friends
Spain should be a republic
ste77sa 3 years ago 2
a por la tercera camaradas¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ muerte al fascismo¡¡¡¡¡
TONYmonFX 3 years ago 2
viva .c.n.t viva f.a.i and this song belong to the anarchists no to the republic pussyes.VIVA LA REVOLUCION SOCIAL LIBERTARIO
nazibreaker 3 years ago
The murderous "Republic" CAN KISS MY ASS!
jazz4jean 3 years ago
Republican Spain vas violently anti-christian even before the civil war so I wont shed a tear for the republics death. Im no expert on this war but I would never support A "Republic" (really a tyranny in diguise.) My family is Spanish so if I had to Choose FRANCO YOUVE GOT A VOLUNTEER!
jazz4jean 3 years ago
hi. I suppose the republic in Spain was not the best thing ever, but was a CIVIL WAR BETTER??.and WAS FRANCO a DEMOCRAT? don't think so. ALL BECAUSE SOME GENERALS WANTED POWER!!. Spain is not totally develop yet because of civil war.
prigual 3 years ago
Actually if you read the history the Republican's Atheism was grossly overstated by their enemies. Honest priests who took the vow of poverty seriously went unmolested. As a matter of interest do you believe in the overthrow of all democratically elected governments you happen to disagree with ?
formless777 3 years ago
And it is ludicrous to say that the Arab troops were Franco's best. Sounds like PC revisionism to me. 7000-something dead priests and nuns sounds like blood-soaked anti-clericalism to me too. I support the overthrow of democratic governments whose policies are fatal to the nation or the Church. One example would be the current American regime which not only allows, but promotes, a Third World immigration invasion that is displacing the native White population of the United States.
richmond450 3 years ago
Nope, the Moorish troops were the best because they kept their heads down and had a natural sense of the lie of the land and didn't stand up and be shot like many of the Spanish. As to 7000 dead priests and nuns overlooks the many priests and nuns who didn't spy for Franco and were known to be true to their vows and didn't support the Nazi backed Coup d'Etat. My info mainly comes from Anthony Beevor's "The Battle for Spain" btw.
formless777 3 years ago
Yeah? What page? Don't you think it's somewhat ludicrous to say that after-what?- 1500 years of military tradition, the Spanish hadn't yet developed the concept of taking cover?
richmond450 3 years ago
Weirdly enough... no. Remember that Spain hadn't fought in WW1 and had really hadn't changed their ideas much since Napoleonic times. When the USA stole their colonies the Spanish were doing some pretty dumb things too if you read about it. As many of the soldiers were half-trained milita, they believed in machismo and just didn't duck in case they were called cowards. Different times, different country, makes no sense to me either.
formless777 3 years ago
You were going to cite the page for me? Funny how it was the Moors who were the vassals of the Spaniards, but you denigrate the Spaniards military capacity.
richmond450 3 years ago
Yes, this does seem to be an accident of history, lol, but the amount of territory in North Africa which Spain owns, namely "the Rif", is pretty small. The moors had been fighting insurgencies to win their independence against Spain and the French, and had more of a grasp of modern warfare as a result. Some hired on as mercenaries for Franco and were well regarded for their ability to use terrain to their advantage. Spanish civilian militia by comparison just chose not to.
formless777 3 years ago
Why would you compare regular troops to civilian militia? Desperate to run down the White man and glorify the non-White, eh?
richmond450 3 years ago
The North Africans weren't regulars, they were mercenaries, and frankly I give credit where it's due. Do I like the Franco regime ? Hell no. But there is little question that its best soldiers were the Moors, just like the International Brigades were the best republican fighters. Hardly surprising as they were all veterans of other conflicts. In any case, are you a skinhead or something ?
formless777 3 years ago
Again- what person of intellect says that they were Franco's best soldiers? And who says that the ragtag International Brigades were the Republic's best soldiers? That kind of denigrates the Spanish military, eh? A skinhead? No. I'm just a White man who still recognizes that fact.
richmond450 3 years ago
I take my info from Paul Bervours' recent "The Spanish Civil War" 600 pages or so and a damn good read. Similarly, if you aren't a skinhead or some other sort of demented racist, why does it even matter what skin colour/racial type fared better ? History is about finding out what happened from the documents of the day, and Franco praised his moors as being more effective fighters than his Spanish regulars repeatedly.
formless777 3 years ago
Oh, and I'm still waiting for that page citation.
richmond450 3 years ago
What native white population would that be?
doublemartiny 3 years ago
What kind of stupid question is that? American White people are the people being dispossessed by the immigratioin invasion.
richmond450 3 years ago
American white people are not native to North America. They too are immigrants or descendants of immigrants. Or do you just draw lines in time where it suits? I realise you are an ignoramus but try to answer this. Freedom of market, freedom of capital - then why not freedom of labour? That is perfect capitalism. What's your complaint?
doublemartiny 3 years ago
How utterly stupid. It wasn't the Indians who built the United States of America, it was the White man. And when that White, European civilization had reached its peak, a government of jews and communists passed a law in 1965 which opened our borders to the rest of the world. You're the ignoramus if you think that because we allowed in tons of White immigrants in 1908 we should allow our country to become non-White through immigration in 2008. Study logic, idiot, and try making sense.
richmond450 3 years ago
What garbage you utter, moron. You can only see the world in one way. Your way. I'm sure the Indians were doing fine before Europenas arrived. What about the Jews you let in? Do you think they are white or not? They came earlier than 1908. What about the forced immigrants that picked your damned cotton! They weren't white. And who were the communists in 1965? You are just a tired, sad old white supremacist. It is captialists that like open borders for cheap labour you jerk. You have no logic.
doublemartiny 3 years ago
You're raving, old man. The point is:it was the White man who built the United States, its economy, culture, military, etc. Not black menials, not Indian savages: White people. Why you assume I'm a capitalist, I don't know. Not that being a capitalist requires one to support their own's country's destruction through open immigration. The communists in 1965 were the jews and their allies in Congress who passed the bill that opened our borders. And I'm young enough to hope to see your kind buried
richmond450 3 years ago
You don't get it! The US, for right or wrong, was built on capitalism. I don't assume you are a capitalist per se. I'm saying the US was built on capitalism and continues to be capitalist. The situation you have now is a natural extension of that philosophy. Your words indicate that you do not recognise that China, India, the Arabs and others also have had great civilizations. You are a dinosaur, sonny. Facing extinction because you can't adapt nor see that we are all just a flash in time.
doublemartiny 3 years ago
Well, if the US was capitalist since the beginning, why was it only in 1965 that we decided that race doesn't matter and we might as well deluge ourselves with Third World immigrants? I'm sure capitalism had a role, but it was also left-wing indoctrination and subversion. Stating the obvious fact that the US was built by Whites doesn't mean that one doesn't acknowledge the civilizations of India, China etc. Making that conclusion only exposes your own confusion.
richmond450 3 years ago
Ah! So you can see some worth in non-whites, just not in the US. Well I suppose that's a start. To me this date of 1965 doesn't add up. The US had many non-white immigrants before then. You make it sound as if there was a deliberate policy to exclude other races, whereas it just wasn't an issue historically. The reality is that whites around the world generally looked upon non-whites as inferior until 20th cent. It wasn't even questioned. Do you think no non-white immigrants can contribute?
doublemartiny 3 years ago
Before that act was passed, the US was around90% White, and about 10% black, with other races filling in the cracks. You are uninformed to say that we didn't have racial immigration laws. Really ignorant. Certain other races can contribute- east Asians, high-caste Indians, yes. Niggers, spics, no. In any case, we don't need them. It is European/White civilization which is history's greatest, in every respect, and it was done by us alone. We don't need to be overrun with non-White races.
richmond450 3 years ago
You are right. I wasn't aware just how racist the US is historically. However, it is evident that the earliest attempts to keep power in the US white were aimed not so much at immigrants but indigenous folk and Negroes. Later legislation appears to be much more specific and aimed at ensuring that your extending empire didn't give rights to those it encompassed, generally. Not by "us alone", though Richmond, because without the Arabs there would be no algebra nor universities even.
doublemartiny 3 years ago
Stop, stop, stop!! American indians were the true owners oif that land, the Americas. You Americans who defend so much your lands now, are sons of ancient British prisoners who were sent to the New World by queen Elisabeth I. You anre defending a land you stole from native Americans, by means of totally unequal wars against the true owners, and don't forget they hosted you all as their own sons. Yeah, rifles against spears. How brave are you...
repfed 3 years ago
Your history is wrong. White settlers of America were mostly free. You're thinking of Australia. The rest of your comments are just too dumb to notice.
richmond450 3 years ago
Yeah well, people who live well in their countries don't usually go to settle a continent they don't even know about, just because they want to. The noblemen, rich people and people who lived O.K. in England didn't go to America.
repfed 3 years ago
And the reason I don't want freedom of labour is because #1 it's not just about "labour". Despite the fuss about illegals sucking away free social services (which is true), the problem is immigrants becoming citizens and dispossessing native, White Americans from their own land. Outnumbering actual Americans is the problem.
richmond450 3 years ago
You just don't understand the forces at work, do you? This is EXACTLY where capitalism leads. You move the work out to where its cheaper, or move cheap labour in. People see your wealth and want it. They want a better life. Don't you realise that our wealth is made off the backs of the rest of the world? Capitalism is a pyramid system. Welfare systems are abused by all types, but that is another debate. All empires collapse, usually from the inside. Look at history. The US is not unique.
doublemartiny 3 years ago
What a stupid old British red. Our wealth is made off the backs of the rest of the world?? I suppose that sort of platitude makes useless and unproductive niggers feel better. Capitalism has its problems, but if anything it has helped the Turd World and beggared the masses of the West. Move to Cuba, commie.
richmond450 3 years ago
This is like talking to a child. Captitalism and empires exploit all resources wherever to the maximum they are able. No platitude. We are passing through the US's turn to exploit. I'd rather be a red than to be a racist, unintelligent ranter such as you. Your only construct is based on an imbecilic idea that US society is the height of man's achievement whereas in the grand scheme of things in most areas you are cultural minnows. Open your eyes and your mind. You might even like it.
doublemartiny 3 years ago
You're fighting a straw man- I never said anything of the sort. I'm done arguing with a fool. Well, you dessicated old red, have a good day and pray to Marx that one of the Moslems you've imported doesn't blow you up today or otherwise kill you or yours.
richmond450 3 years ago
You're trying to convince a stone. I've also argued with this guy, but he's very conservative. Unfortunately he is not an exeption in the American society. Here in Spain there are quite a few people thinking like him, even though we've had less influence of black people. Let's say that this sector of their society hasn't mentally progrossed since the XVIII century, when they scored the independence.
repfed 3 years ago
You're trying to convince a stone. I've also argued with this guy, but he's very conservative. Unfortunately he is not an exeption in the American society. Here in Spain there are quite a few people thinking like him, even though we've had less influence of black people. Let's say that this sector of their society hasn't mentally progrossed since the XVIII century, when they scored the independence.
repfed 3 years ago
>Our wealth is made off the backs of the rest of >the world??
Actually he's actually absolutely correct!!
peterkvideo 2 years ago
Viva la republica!!!Viva la revolucione!!!
Boromir33 3 years ago
Richmond,,you smell of shite.
poneil69 3 years ago
And soon your faggot dictator Castro's regime will follow the Spanish Republic into the dust. And you want to know a secret about your beloved Cuban 5? They've been "flipped" in prison. They've been getting their asses reamed by niggers all these years, and they found out that they like it!
richmond450 3 years ago
I never supported communism as it was in the USSR, I never supported communist dictators, such as Stalin, Lennin and Mao. First and before calling everyone communist try to enquire yourselve about the Spanish Republic. The communist party was only one of the several parties who voted in favor of the Republic, others were the Republican ones, Basque nationalist and Catalan nationalist parties... and it was a decision of ALL of them to form a Republic.
repfed 3 years ago
By the end of the war, the Spanish Republic was dominated by the Communists. It was basically a Soviet Socialist Republic.
richmond450 3 years ago
If that was so, it was because the USSR was the only country who was about giving a complete military support to the Republic to fight fascism, because although the Republic had volunteers from other democratic countries, they weren't able to fight two world powers an Germany and Itally, as I told you before.
repfed 3 years ago
You would rather have lived under communism than Franco? Then you are truly mad.
richmond450 3 years ago
But don't say Franco was a great man because he was a complete jerk, and don't say the Spanish Republic was a socialist tyranny even before the war, because that's totally demagogy and please get informed before you speak about something, there is enough ignorance and manipulation in the world, don't join that club.
repfed 3 years ago
And I never supported Castro, every dictatorship isn't fair, no matter thir ideology. Just try not to get manipulated by fascist comments ond beliefs, nor absolutly conservative American thoughts. If african moslems want to come to Spain it's because we've amde progress, otherwishe they would stay in their counties. You, Americans, also have quite a lot of illegal immigrants, mainly Mexicans.
repfed 3 years ago
You are truly a simpleton. Are we debating why we are being invaded? The point is that we are being invaded- you by Islam, we by everyone. You seem ok with being taken over and dispossessed. I say- "Franco! Come back! We need you!"
richmond450 3 years ago
We are NOT being invaded, the more foreign people we have, the more we'll know about their way of living and the more "opened" we'll have our minds to people that are not from the same country. I agree we have to keep our traditions and languages, but please don't be soooo conservative, if the ones that come here work as we do, I am content. The US without foreigners is nothing more than a common country.
repfed 3 years ago
Who would have paied to Usain Bolt to go to the US? And most basketball palyer, are they WHITE? What about Obama? Hip-hop, blues, jazz... go and read a History book please, but not only the American ones, you think the US is the center of the world and the culture and the studies there are much lower than in Europe. If you want Franco to come back, then say him to go to your country. And you fucking IGNORANT, the Spanish Republic WASN'T A COMMUNIST COUNTRY!!!
repfed 3 years ago
Actually, as the Olympics show, White players are just as good as blacks. Probably better, since they have brains and use them to their advantage during a game. So blacks can throw a ball and bang a drum- what a grand contribution. I don't think the US is the center of the world. I'm quite well informed, which is why I don't want my country turning into Africa or Mexico. Viva Franco!