Is it possible to do an instant off the ground siberian blizzard resulting in the hitboxes of the ultra extending to the opponent even while they're on the ground/ not airborne? Or is it strictly anti air only?
Its an "option select". This is just proof that gief has a real os. Its says it in the title. Any smart player knows that not everything with option select in it means unblockable or invincible. its just another useful factor in the game if you can train your opponent to react certain ways or put the player in a situation where any form of airborne movement is their most effective option out of the pressure from gief.
So....last night on the team spooky guard crush stream on twitchtv,Aquasilk the premier gief player in the usa and the protector of russian skies stated that these gief option selects are in fact fraudulent and stated,i quote "gief could be grabbed out of them".Do you have a response to this desk?.
@biffotasty I Have just been to the guard crush 26 page on twitchtv but the archives are not there,yet,hopefully someone else who saw the stream will comment but i assure you he stated exactly what i quoted.
@biffotasty Actually i beg your pardon,last nights gc 26 archive is there,for some reason it's on the 2nd page behind older videos,the comment in question was nearer the start of the stream,i don't have a time stamp as i am not going to sit through the whole thing again,although the rush hour commentary between chris hu and aquasilk was the best ever,hilarious,the chat was going crazy.the comment was around the time,aqua and jaha were commentating,btw keep up the good work.
@neontetra1000. Uh...how exactly would one be grabbed out of this? If they don't do an invincible action on wakeup then they should have to block the meaty j.HK.
@neontetra1000 lol aquasilk isn't even that great of a gief player. getting to his skill level could take an averagely decent/good street fighter player 8 mo. - 1 year if they just started Gief. zangitan is a true giefer
@dtlee9489 this particular one yes, but there are other option selects for teleports (os-green hand to spd), so it still comes back to conditioning your opponent against doing certain things and making the right read
For everyone asking how to get out of this, it's not as great as it sems. This OS works against all backdashes, presumably, but most characters' reversals can get them out of this situation. This OS takes a LONG time to develop (I'm guessing around 12 frames or so), so anybody with a DP FADC gets out of this without having to think. You can also just choose to do what beats nearly all OS, and that's to just block.. though obviously, it keeps Gief in good position.
Hmm so what should I do when a gief does this? Focusing just gets me comboed I would imagine. I guess You just have to block it and try to guess out of the next set up if you can't teleport eh?
@ZyxBlackwind im not 100% sure but i think if you just reversal dp, you will beat it out, because zangief needs to be in the air to do the ultra, and by the time you do an instant air dp gief gets hit by it but then again im not sure.
Yeah.. focus backdash is not the same as whiffing, at all.
Good shit on this Desk. I haven't seen OS U2 before.
For all you guys saying he's not legit.. step your SF4 game up. There's nothing in this vid that is unbelievable at all. This is actually VERY basic, by Desk standards.
That will get you OS'd, lmao. An attack being focused is the same as an attack whiffing, the option select will come out. Not backdashing after the focus and just going for a lvl 1 or 2 focus attack would be the better option.
Could you use a similar idea with T Hawk's Raging Slash Ultra or does that come out to slowly/at too much of an angle with too small a hitbox to prove as effective? I should probably find out for myself <.<
@NivMizzetFiremind Naw i've been following Desk for a while. It's just I did this first attempt with my Turbo on; couldn't do it without. Prebuffered ultra on H.K. Not hating!
Hmm so what I'm seeing is no matter if u recover in regular move or ex move is null an void against his ultra. U pretty much have no choice but to take it.
@KillerPoPBlues01 I would assume you safe jump them and buffer the U2. If the jumpin whiffs the U2 comes out, which will catch most backdashes and some reversals. If the jump hits (which is the other thing that'll happen if they block or do nothing) then the hitstun will cause gief to land later, and the U2 won't come out because it's too late from the buffering time.
good thing in when ae came out they decided to make backdashes count as being in the air.
FallenLegend69 1 week ago
Is it possible to do an instant off the ground siberian blizzard resulting in the hitboxes of the ultra extending to the opponent even while they're on the ground/ not airborne? Or is it strictly anti air only?
IVISMiLESIVI 3 months ago
@IVISMiLESIVI i think it will only work on airborne opponents but still, you can instant-ultra 2
TheDonaldduck911 3 months ago
uau :O
anjoLas 3 months ago
Its an "option select". This is just proof that gief has a real os. Its says it in the title. Any smart player knows that not everything with option select in it means unblockable or invincible. its just another useful factor in the game if you can train your opponent to react certain ways or put the player in a situation where any form of airborne movement is their most effective option out of the pressure from gief.
Kaosbreakercloud 4 months ago
Love the look on Rufus's face at 0:54
Spcophiytl 4 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Just go look at the guardcrush archive.
jaewonz 4 months ago
So....last night on the team spooky guard crush stream on twitchtv,Aquasilk the premier gief player in the usa and the protector of russian skies stated that these gief option selects are in fact fraudulent and stated,i quote "gief could be grabbed out of them".Do you have a response to this desk?.
neontetra1000 4 months ago 2
@neontetra1000 hahaha. I need evidence that this actually happened.
biffotasty 4 months ago 12
@biffotasty I Have just been to the guard crush 26 page on twitchtv but the archives are not there,yet,hopefully someone else who saw the stream will comment but i assure you he stated exactly what i quoted.
neontetra1000 4 months ago
@biffotasty Actually i beg your pardon,last nights gc 26 archive is there,for some reason it's on the 2nd page behind older videos,the comment in question was nearer the start of the stream,i don't have a time stamp as i am not going to sit through the whole thing again,although the rush hour commentary between chris hu and aquasilk was the best ever,hilarious,the chat was going crazy.the comment was around the time,aqua and jaha were commentating,btw keep up the good work.
neontetra1000 4 months ago
@neontetra1000. Uh...how exactly would one be grabbed out of this? If they don't do an invincible action on wakeup then they should have to block the meaty j.HK.
DarkSonicSpear 4 months ago
@neontetra1000 lol aquasilk isn't even that great of a gief player. getting to his skill level could take an averagely decent/good street fighter player 8 mo. - 1 year if they just started Gief. zangitan is a true giefer
noJutsu1000 4 weeks ago
this is amazing and i love you
SassyWynaut 4 months ago
so... teleports would blow this os up right?
dtlee9489 4 months ago
@dtlee9489 this particular one yes, but there are other option selects for teleports (os-green hand to spd), so it still comes back to conditioning your opponent against doing certain things and making the right read
spiderman112004 4 months ago
"nobagh-sohoasindoiipan'fnaoisdnao'snfasf" Zangief.
TheFillaNegro 4 months ago
zangief was already scary D:
smiley917 4 months ago
If you pause at 0:54, you can see Rufus' face just enough that you know what he's thinking. And do you know what Rufus is thinking right there?
"...oh, god, I think I just soiled myself."
ZeroGForce 4 months ago
For everyone asking how to get out of this, it's not as great as it sems. This OS works against all backdashes, presumably, but most characters' reversals can get them out of this situation. This OS takes a LONG time to develop (I'm guessing around 12 frames or so), so anybody with a DP FADC gets out of this without having to think. You can also just choose to do what beats nearly all OS, and that's to just block.. though obviously, it keeps Gief in good position.
TizOnly1 4 months ago
0_0
MasterBoris86X 4 months ago
woooooow
toooop9 4 months ago
WOK DA SUGA WA!!
321Tdog 4 months ago
WHAT THE F***!? ALL THOSE MOVES COUNT THE ENEMY AS "ON AIR"!?
YabukiShingo4 4 months ago
Oh yeah, seems like you'd get accidental ground grab with this setup pretty easily.
Halibut86 4 months ago
im not gonna lie zangief saying that one line in japanese makes me lol
thepwner7 4 months ago
why didnt you turn input display on?!?!?!
NightPirateUSA 4 months ago
@NightPirateUSA You can't have input display on a dummy in training mode, and the only way to really show an OS, is by setting the dummy.
TizOnly1 4 months ago
@TizOnly1 ahhh. common sense lol
NightPirateUSA 4 months ago
@TizOnly1 Just saying, you can have input display on the dummy in training mode. I do it all the time.
IvorytheSamoan 4 months ago
accidentally disliked LOL. GOOD VID
VexKasrani 4 months ago
NIGGA_WAT
Hakf 4 months ago
in-sane
iorilamia 4 months ago
Hmm so what should I do when a gief does this? Focusing just gets me comboed I would imagine. I guess You just have to block it and try to guess out of the next set up if you can't teleport eh?
ZyxBlackwind 4 months ago
@ZyxBlackwind im not 100% sure but i think if you just reversal dp, you will beat it out, because zangief needs to be in the air to do the ultra, and by the time you do an instant air dp gief gets hit by it but then again im not sure.
jhericurl92 4 months ago
Crazy stuff
theflash438 4 months ago
crazy stuff
TheMAMBA116 4 months ago
Does it work on wake-up ex sbk?
Bodmon256 4 months ago
Yeah.. focus backdash is not the same as whiffing, at all.
Good shit on this Desk. I haven't seen OS U2 before.
For all you guys saying he's not legit.. step your SF4 game up. There's nothing in this vid that is unbelievable at all. This is actually VERY basic, by Desk standards.
TizOnly1 4 months ago
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ABONESR 4 months ago
OS is crazy desk makes look to easy man
ariespinal 4 months ago
@biffotasty Does it grab ex Knee Press or ex Psycho Crusher?
InsanityOfTwins 4 months ago
Oh my God... I hope ppl know how to wake up focus back dash on wake up to beat the option select. ;)
touyang203 4 months ago
@touyang203
That will get you OS'd, lmao. An attack being focused is the same as an attack whiffing, the option select will come out. Not backdashing after the focus and just going for a lvl 1 or 2 focus attack would be the better option.
GirugaMarc 4 months ago
@GirugaMarc thats not true. focusing the jump hk and then backdashing wont make the OS come out.
InsanityOfTwins 4 months ago
@GirugaMarc Lol no, you're wrong.
HardRuisu 4 months ago
@HardRuisu
oh, ok
GirugaMarc 4 months ago
@GirugaMarc yeah stupid read everyone's comment, "lmao" faggggg..
touyang203 4 months ago
Zangief has magnetic hands.
1shoryuken 4 months ago
WTF?
SuperPrimoXDXD 4 months ago
shit just got real
lol109109 4 months ago
cheap
nerf Desk, not Characters
Shintroy 4 months ago
AquaSilk: "Nobody is safe anymore."
ShadowKubi 4 months ago
normal grab?
Bullseyewtf 4 months ago
i hate option selects
pololoco89 4 months ago
awesome !!! now I need to train and add this one to my poor zangief skills :)
MaximilianoDent 4 months ago
Chris Hu: "Skies, Pro-tected"
iPityDatFoo 4 months ago 83
What do i have to do to get that Gief theme its so godlike
DeAtHAiMeR 4 months ago
Could you use a similar idea with T Hawk's Raging Slash Ultra or does that come out to slowly/at too much of an angle with too small a hitbox to prove as effective? I should probably find out for myself <.<
NinjaPepper 4 months ago
Can you show your input data? I'm just curious as to whether your legit or not.
IvorytheSamoan 4 months ago
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NivMizzetFiremind 4 months ago
@NivMizzetFiremind Naw i've been following Desk for a while. It's just I did this first attempt with my Turbo on; couldn't do it without. Prebuffered ultra on H.K. Not hating!
IvorytheSamoan 4 months ago
@IvorytheSamoan NP ill remove my comment :)
NivMizzetFiremind 4 months ago
@IvorytheSamoan Desk is legit, he did videos for EVO.
ddazza7447 4 months ago
I want that gief theme!!
AbelmetaL2112 4 months ago
Hmm so what I'm seeing is no matter if u recover in regular move or ex move is null an void against his ultra. U pretty much have no choice but to take it.
MasterOssy 4 months ago
@MasterOssy its mostly normals. you wouldnt take that much chip damage. of course, then he could just option select into a SPD..
holmborn 4 months ago
Awh shit
wtfbbqgtfo 4 months ago
I love you desk
PomboKad 4 months ago
.......................................
BelieveTheHYPEmonkey 4 months ago
OH man OH god OH man OH god OH man OH god OH man OH god!
Autonomisc 4 months ago
Plz explain this one desk
eddybilly1 4 months ago
@eddybilly1 It's not like there's a link RIGHT under the video called "Details and notes"
dubdesignnet 4 months ago 39
Nice :D
TheBoredomOtaku 4 months ago
wow
zarakisan11 4 months ago
How do you perform this?
KillerPoPBlues01 4 months ago
@KillerPoPBlues01 I would assume you safe jump them and buffer the U2. If the jumpin whiffs the U2 comes out, which will catch most backdashes and some reversals. If the jump hits (which is the other thing that'll happen if they block or do nothing) then the hitstun will cause gief to land later, and the U2 won't come out because it's too late from the buffering time.
Kelohmello 4 months ago
WAT
uglymug211 4 months ago
4th!! Oh wait...
swoozie06 4 months ago