Fact is that astrology doesn't rely on constellations which are, again, imaginary bodies made by human minds... So, the whole video is a waste since the person never studied nor learned astrology deeper than constellations which he reassembled to the Zodiac signs. Truth is, Zodiac signs are only named after some of the constellations, but are in fact insignificant due to the fact that astrology relays on elements. So, haha, nice try
Well. It doesn't have any true weight in the modern world. Unless you really want to debate this. If so do an independent study, that's what science is for.
Funny, isn't it? Elite politicians and bankers use astrology on a daily basis, meanwhile they spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on "schools" and other forms of propaganda in order to convince you that its bullshit.
"Millionaires don't use astrology. Billionaires do." - J.P. Morgan
Yawn This is propaganda for low grade morons, the type of idiots who attended public schools.
Here's a couple of real facts:
1. The procession of the equinoxes is what he is referring to... and it is real, except for where the sun was on the day of your birth has fuck all to do with your chart.
2. The Babylonians didn't invent astrology, the Irish did. If the Babylonians invented astrology then please explain the glastonbury zodiac.
Thanks for playing ya fucking government school retards.
Clearly, you did not if you think being brainwashed by government goons qualifies as an "education." Indoctrination is more like it. It does seem like you can construct a basic sentence and spell however, so I guess that puts you in the top 1% of youtube users and Bill Nye followers. Good for you.
@sanitydotorg The irish invented astrology huh? What private school did your parents throw money away on? Your idiotic claim is likely do to Robert Graves's tree calendar based off of The White Goddess Published in the mid 1900's. Look up Babylonian and greek astrology. Try not to embarrass yourself to badly on the internet. Other people can read this stuff you know.
By the way your private school tuition that your rich mommy and daddy paid for is offered for free at your public library.
Terp! Yes. The Babylonians invented astrology, in 1492 Columbus discovered Amerika, global warming is real and 9/11 was carried out by Osama bin Laden. Derp! Derp! I believe everything the Department of Education tells me.
I guess. If by getting "owned" you mean having facts shouted down by psychotics projecting their own insecurities into ad hominem attacks that aren't even accurate.
If Babylonians invented astrology (like Nye claims) and astrology is invalid because of the procession of the equnioxes now places us in the pisces instead of Aries (like Nye claims) because quote "Babylonians invented astrology 2000 years ago" then how do you explain:
1. The Babylonian empire ended 2500 years ago in 539 BCE
2. The Babylonians were using astrology 4000 years ago, which would have been in gemini not Aries
1.You can never get an accurate interpretation from just the Sun sign.Newspaper interpretations are a shotgun effect: It works for some and it doesn't work for others.
In a person's chart there's a million other things you have to consider.These things are different in everyone's chart, thus reflecting how everyone's different.
2.I could be wrong, but doesn't Sidereal and Tropical astrology talk about this?
I'm not an astrologer nor do I fully believe in Astrology.. I'm just sayin
all things have a gravitational force, even a person 1 billion miles from you in some other planet in another galaxy..but you can not feel the pull.. seems kinda weird to say all the pulling doesn't effect one.
What does gravity have to do with it? The gravitational effect of anything beyond our sun is 0 (as in physics, not in maths). Also, how can you even think there's a planet a billion miles from here where people live? Do you realize that that's within the solar system, not another galaxy? Do you even realize how vast and empty the universe is? There's probably life somewhere else and maybe some in other places in our solar system, but none inhabited by people.
Mr. Nye forgot about Jesus and how after the earth is destroyed and he takes over, the first thing Jesus will do is enslave the Jews and Muslims) and only then will Jesus fix the Stars on Hollywood boulevard
I wouldn't even count zodiac under scientific astrology... There was even 14 original zodiacs and 12 were taken out. If you wanna bash astrology zodiac signs def. isn't the way to go about it.
even as child reading the comics and horoscopes at the back of a newspaper, I knew astrology was a joke. I did, however, see the rare bits of general advice in a horoscope and treat it as only that.
@MarkyMark80808 - if a 1000 astrologers made predictions for the next 12 months, no doubt some would be spot on. Unfortunately for them those same astrologers wouldn't be able to make accurate predictions for the next 12 months as time and time again it is clear their "predictions" are never more accurate than guesswork.
Astrologers are aware of this and allow for it. The world famous Professor Hans Eynsenke of the University of London did FIVE YEARS research on astrology in order to prove it was nonsense, He then wrote a full page report in the Evening Standard in 1977 that he was so astonished at the amount of truth he found in the subject, it almost undermined his faith in science.
Stop assuming your skeptic assumptions are correct. Try FIVE years of open minded research. Have a nice day.
You are basing your argument on one person who did a mere 5 year study compared to hundreds of years of science through the telescope. You are also using a newspaper frequently compared to a tabloid as a source over peer reviewed journals. Please take anti-science else where.
@Z1Z121 - except of course Eynsenke found nothing to support the claims of astrologers. For example, on the argument that no factor in a birth chart shall be judged in isolation & that judging all factors collectively is too subtle a process to be investigated scientifically, he dismissed quite succinctly. Quote: "If the most basic tenets of astrology are true, they should be detectable in their own right, regardless of other subtleties." He was very through and unbiased, that is true.
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I was born on december so my sign is saggitarius, now if the earth DOES not hit it anymore, i give no shit about it, saggitarius goes with december. nuf said.
I said this years ago, and nobody believed me. Everyone said my information sources were wrong, so I just gave up. Years later, I got a Libra tattoo, and about a month later, somebody on the news announced that all the signs were wrong. Now I look like the idiot.
@ShawnRavenfire Actually, nothing's changed because Zodiac signs are not connected to the constellations in any way beside the names used. Basically, Zodiac signs are all divided by the 30degrees making a full 360 circle for 12 signs. However, when the U.S. media starts to spread misinformation like a fire - everyone who's not familiar with knowledge about real astrology gets all "oh, it changed...so what now" without even the slightest interest to see whether it's true or not. People are stupid
I'm not inclined to believe in anything that doesn't offer a logical explanation of how it works. By far, most of the stars we look at could have gone nova or shrunk away thousands of years ago and we wouldn't know it because their light takes that long to reach us. How in blazes are they supposed to have an influence on my personality?
One can only debunk something that isn't true. Comparing sidereal and tropical zodiacs: apples and oranges. He should stick to science and stop dabbling in comedy.
not knowing any science.....just by common scence..you should know that prediction cannot apply to 1/12 of the word population....its like saying that one event is gonna apply to hundred of millions of people.....giving thagt all astrologist would have the same prediction...THEY DONT....get real get a education...its good that some kid listen to this guy finaly.
I think the biggest mark against Astrology is the fact that if you were to give the birth date, time, and location (and any other supposedly relevant information to ten different asstrologers (yeah, misspelling intentional), you would get ten different "readings".
in the end astrology in the news papers is not astrology you cant just point out one small element and generalize it. Its like only talking about the tires on the car and nothing else. News paper astrology does not cover even a part of astrology therefore you will realize that it is in fact bullshit to make money and sell columns not astrology in the attempt to promote self understanding which is its purpose. But there are many forms of astrology.So as u say who am i to say what is or isnt astro
@Draceb No, in this can you absolutely CAN generalize, there is NO form of astrology which has ANY merit whatesoever! I challenge you to prove me wrong, and even more difficult explain HOW balls of gas undergoing nuclear fission lights years away from us (and from each other!) can, in ANY significant way, affect the course of a human life (short of going nova and obliterating the earth, of course). Wetern, Vedic, Newspaper, Starscroll or phony selling starcharts from his living room, ALL crap!
@wendighoul You're misled. The "effect"'s not purely oriented towards planets. Besides, recently there have been a lot of talk about Neutrinos. Having all in anarchy based prejudice oriented opinion, which isn't based upon knowledge, wont get you anywhere. However, i must ask you to ask yourself - Have people in history used compass before they knew about magnetism? Did some doctors said that washing hands reduces mortality rate before they knew for germs? Learn it, love it, own it :}
a part of the whole. Its like summerizing something as a whole based on an element within it. It is clear to anyone who knows anything about astrology what they are talking about is clearly coming from people who are purely educated in only their own science and no knowledge of astrology. Therefore the point out facts only partially relative. The only failure was really to avoid my point with your arrogant post. The only truth we can agree on is truth is relative.
@charbarly Well actually i think authority is relative to perspective. As you state your opinion of my authority is just that an opinion, no different than mine. Maybe my opinion doesn't matter to you but all groups have varation in it. The fact is there is a huge different to the outcome of a test or debunking if the facts are selected at random. If you look at science you can look at the many different branches that quarrel and dont agree but you cant say they are bullshit, becasue they are...
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i find it amusing that 90% of the scientists debunking astrology have no fucking clue how it works, they think astrology is that idiotic bullshit in the newspapers.
@Draceb I don't think you have the authority to declare what is and isn't astrology. You don't agree with "that idiotic bullshit in the newspapers," but your opinion of the subject doesn't really matter. Any group that is based on self-identification is going to have a certain amount of variation in it, and all attempts to declare who the "true" members are will inevitably fail.
Fact is that astrology doesn't rely on constellations which are, again, imaginary bodies made by human minds... So, the whole video is a waste since the person never studied nor learned astrology deeper than constellations which he reassembled to the Zodiac signs. Truth is, Zodiac signs are only named after some of the constellations, but are in fact insignificant due to the fact that astrology relays on elements. So, haha, nice try
c1k4ml3kc3 3 weeks ago
Bill Nye said sexy. EPIC.
Nagneto 1 month ago
Facts will never debunk superstition.
Dougster 1 month ago
Haha, sexy indeed.
Allankj 1 month ago
It's aload of bollocks!
judgejudyslover 1 month ago
Well. It doesn't have any true weight in the modern world. Unless you really want to debate this. If so do an independent study, that's what science is for.
comradeJoe2 1 month ago
@comradeJoe2
Funny, isn't it? Elite politicians and bankers use astrology on a daily basis, meanwhile they spend hundreds of billions of dollars a year on "schools" and other forms of propaganda in order to convince you that its bullshit.
"Millionaires don't use astrology. Billionaires do." - J.P. Morgan
sanitydotorg 1 month ago
@sanitydotorg - "Millions of people use astrology but not one person has demonstrated it works" A Peenum
ZoeMarks 1 month ago
Yawn This is propaganda for low grade morons, the type of idiots who attended public schools.
Here's a couple of real facts:
1. The procession of the equinoxes is what he is referring to... and it is real, except for where the sun was on the day of your birth has fuck all to do with your chart.
2. The Babylonians didn't invent astrology, the Irish did. If the Babylonians invented astrology then please explain the glastonbury zodiac.
Thanks for playing ya fucking government school retards.
sanitydotorg 2 months ago
@sanitydotorg screw you i went to public school and probably got a better education than your condescending ass
duhhxxxiloveyou 2 months ago
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@duhhxxxiloveyou
Clearly, you did not if you think being brainwashed by government goons qualifies as an "education." Indoctrination is more like it. It does seem like you can construct a basic sentence and spell however, so I guess that puts you in the top 1% of youtube users and Bill Nye followers. Good for you.
sanitydotorg 2 months ago
@sanitydotorg Ooh look at mister Big Swingin' Dick Privately Educated Shithead. No one gives a fuck what an uppity starched collar has to say.
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WhatIAm99 2 months ago
@sanitydotorg The irish invented astrology huh? What private school did your parents throw money away on? Your idiotic claim is likely do to Robert Graves's tree calendar based off of The White Goddess Published in the mid 1900's. Look up Babylonian and greek astrology. Try not to embarrass yourself to badly on the internet. Other people can read this stuff you know.
By the way your private school tuition that your rich mommy and daddy paid for is offered for free at your public library.
ambartrew 2 months ago
@ambartrew
Terp! Yes. The Babylonians invented astrology, in 1492 Columbus discovered Amerika, global warming is real and 9/11 was carried out by Osama bin Laden. Derp! Derp! I believe everything the Department of Education tells me.
sanitydotorg 2 months ago
@sanitydotorg You got owned.
4kingdomhrts 2 months ago
@4kingdomhrts
I guess. If by getting "owned" you mean having facts shouted down by psychotics projecting their own insecurities into ad hominem attacks that aren't even accurate.
sanitydotorg 2 months ago
@4kingdomhrts
Alright genius, here's a question for you:
If Babylonians invented astrology (like Nye claims) and astrology is invalid because of the procession of the equnioxes now places us in the pisces instead of Aries (like Nye claims) because quote "Babylonians invented astrology 2000 years ago" then how do you explain:
1. The Babylonian empire ended 2500 years ago in 539 BCE
2. The Babylonians were using astrology 4000 years ago, which would have been in gemini not Aries
sanitydotorg 2 months ago
@sanitydotorg FUCK YOU
duhhxxxiloveyou 1 month ago
@duhhxxxiloveyou
No thanks. If that's the best you can do intellectually, you're not someone who I would want to sleep with.
sanitydotorg 1 month ago
@sanitydotorg "please explain the glastonbury zodiac" Thus: badarchaeology(dot)wordpress(dot)com / tag / glastonbury-zodiac
TomFynn 1 month ago
two thoughts:
1.You can never get an accurate interpretation from just the Sun sign.Newspaper interpretations are a shotgun effect: It works for some and it doesn't work for others.
In a person's chart there's a million other things you have to consider.These things are different in everyone's chart, thus reflecting how everyone's different.
2.I could be wrong, but doesn't Sidereal and Tropical astrology talk about this?
I'm not an astrologer nor do I fully believe in Astrology.. I'm just sayin
SarethSirBootalot 2 months ago
all things have a gravitational force, even a person 1 billion miles from you in some other planet in another galaxy..but you can not feel the pull.. seems kinda weird to say all the pulling doesn't effect one.
catoplayboy 2 months ago
@catoplayboy
What does gravity have to do with it? The gravitational effect of anything beyond our sun is 0 (as in physics, not in maths). Also, how can you even think there's a planet a billion miles from here where people live? Do you realize that that's within the solar system, not another galaxy? Do you even realize how vast and empty the universe is? There's probably life somewhere else and maybe some in other places in our solar system, but none inhabited by people.
Quintinohthree 2 months ago
Sagittarius or Scorpio, you are SEXY, Bill
thatcakeisalie 2 months ago
Mr. Nye forgot about Jesus and how after the earth is destroyed and he takes over, the first thing Jesus will do is enslave the Jews and Muslims) and only then will Jesus fix the Stars on Hollywood boulevard
bookwormbandit 2 months ago
I wouldn't even count zodiac under scientific astrology... There was even 14 original zodiacs and 12 were taken out. If you wanna bash astrology zodiac signs def. isn't the way to go about it.
Darkpattern12 2 months ago
Oh, Bill, you're preaching to the choir.
SPRoubi2020 2 months ago 2
awe, I want the full episode
TAPriceCTR 3 months ago
even as child reading the comics and horoscopes at the back of a newspaper, I knew astrology was a joke. I did, however, see the rare bits of general advice in a horoscope and treat it as only that.
MarkyMark80808 3 months ago
@MarkyMark80808 - if a 1000 astrologers made predictions for the next 12 months, no doubt some would be spot on. Unfortunately for them those same astrologers wouldn't be able to make accurate predictions for the next 12 months as time and time again it is clear their "predictions" are never more accurate than guesswork.
zzytrewq 3 months ago
definitely sexy scorpio
leahcim268 3 months ago
Astrologers are aware of this and allow for it. The world famous Professor Hans Eynsenke of the University of London did FIVE YEARS research on astrology in order to prove it was nonsense, He then wrote a full page report in the Evening Standard in 1977 that he was so astonished at the amount of truth he found in the subject, it almost undermined his faith in science.
Stop assuming your skeptic assumptions are correct. Try FIVE years of open minded research. Have a nice day.
Z1Z121 3 months ago
@Z1Z121 By one person. It is not accepted in the scientific community. Try HUNDERS of scientist with COUNTLESS of years of work. Have a nice day.
nake89 3 months ago
@Z1Z121
You are basing your argument on one person who did a mere 5 year study compared to hundreds of years of science through the telescope. You are also using a newspaper frequently compared to a tabloid as a source over peer reviewed journals. Please take anti-science else where.
proatheism 3 months ago
@Z1Z121 - except of course Eynsenke found nothing to support the claims of astrologers. For example, on the argument that no factor in a birth chart shall be judged in isolation & that judging all factors collectively is too subtle a process to be investigated scientifically, he dismissed quite succinctly. Quote: "If the most basic tenets of astrology are true, they should be detectable in their own right, regardless of other subtleties." He was very through and unbiased, that is true.
zzytrewq 3 months ago
When did "sexy" and "fun-loving" become different things?
Ericanious 3 months ago
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TheRaellz 3 months ago
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kyleisreallycool 3 months ago
I was born on december so my sign is saggitarius, now if the earth DOES not hit it anymore, i give no shit about it, saggitarius goes with december. nuf said.
elfy99803 4 months ago
I said this years ago, and nobody believed me. Everyone said my information sources were wrong, so I just gave up. Years later, I got a Libra tattoo, and about a month later, somebody on the news announced that all the signs were wrong. Now I look like the idiot.
ShawnRavenfire 4 months ago
@ShawnRavenfire Actually, nothing's changed because Zodiac signs are not connected to the constellations in any way beside the names used. Basically, Zodiac signs are all divided by the 30degrees making a full 360 circle for 12 signs. However, when the U.S. media starts to spread misinformation like a fire - everyone who's not familiar with knowledge about real astrology gets all "oh, it changed...so what now" without even the slightest interest to see whether it's true or not. People are stupid
c1k4ml3kc3 4 months ago
@c1k4ml3kc3 Whew, that's a relief... again.
ShawnRavenfire 4 months ago
Heres how I see it, women are absolutely nuts and they believe in this shite so if it will help me get laid I'm down for it
ricktbdgc 4 months ago 2
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werlcad42 5 months ago
0:08 is epic intelligent fail
abu7zboon 7 months ago
Please don't tell me people actually believe this "horoscope" bullshit...
DragonAurora 9 months ago
@DragonAurora Unfortunately they do.
ZergAteu 8 months ago
Bill Nye is the greatest.
Nagneto 9 months ago
sexy
HKTeeVee 9 months ago
I'm not inclined to believe in anything that doesn't offer a logical explanation of how it works. By far, most of the stars we look at could have gone nova or shrunk away thousands of years ago and we wouldn't know it because their light takes that long to reach us. How in blazes are they supposed to have an influence on my personality?
carmium 10 months ago 2
One can only debunk something that isn't true. Comparing sidereal and tropical zodiacs: apples and oranges. He should stick to science and stop dabbling in comedy.
Pythonette 1 year ago
@MrDoNotEatThat
You just blew my mind...
piip4 1 year ago
not knowing any science.....just by common scence..you should know that prediction cannot apply to 1/12 of the word population....its like saying that one event is gonna apply to hundred of millions of people.....giving thagt all astrologist would have the same prediction...THEY DONT....get real get a education...its good that some kid listen to this guy finaly.
lapmarty 1 year ago
I think the biggest mark against Astrology is the fact that if you were to give the birth date, time, and location (and any other supposedly relevant information to ten different asstrologers (yeah, misspelling intentional), you would get ten different "readings".
IT"S NOT EVEN INTERNALLY CONSISTENT!!!
steveb0503 1 year ago 8
in the end astrology in the news papers is not astrology you cant just point out one small element and generalize it. Its like only talking about the tires on the car and nothing else. News paper astrology does not cover even a part of astrology therefore you will realize that it is in fact bullshit to make money and sell columns not astrology in the attempt to promote self understanding which is its purpose. But there are many forms of astrology.So as u say who am i to say what is or isnt astro
Draceb 1 year ago
@Draceb No, in this can you absolutely CAN generalize, there is NO form of astrology which has ANY merit whatesoever! I challenge you to prove me wrong, and even more difficult explain HOW balls of gas undergoing nuclear fission lights years away from us (and from each other!) can, in ANY significant way, affect the course of a human life (short of going nova and obliterating the earth, of course). Wetern, Vedic, Newspaper, Starscroll or phony selling starcharts from his living room, ALL crap!
wendighoul 10 months ago
@wendighoul You're misled. The "effect"'s not purely oriented towards planets. Besides, recently there have been a lot of talk about Neutrinos. Having all in anarchy based prejudice oriented opinion, which isn't based upon knowledge, wont get you anywhere. However, i must ask you to ask yourself - Have people in history used compass before they knew about magnetism? Did some doctors said that washing hands reduces mortality rate before they knew for germs? Learn it, love it, own it :}
c1k4ml3kc3 4 months ago
a part of the whole. Its like summerizing something as a whole based on an element within it. It is clear to anyone who knows anything about astrology what they are talking about is clearly coming from people who are purely educated in only their own science and no knowledge of astrology. Therefore the point out facts only partially relative. The only failure was really to avoid my point with your arrogant post. The only truth we can agree on is truth is relative.
Draceb 1 year ago
@charbarly Well actually i think authority is relative to perspective. As you state your opinion of my authority is just that an opinion, no different than mine. Maybe my opinion doesn't matter to you but all groups have varation in it. The fact is there is a huge different to the outcome of a test or debunking if the facts are selected at random. If you look at science you can look at the many different branches that quarrel and dont agree but you cant say they are bullshit, becasue they are...
Draceb 1 year ago
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i find it amusing that 90% of the scientists debunking astrology have no fucking clue how it works, they think astrology is that idiotic bullshit in the newspapers.
Draceb 1 year ago
@Draceb I don't think you have the authority to declare what is and isn't astrology. You don't agree with "that idiotic bullshit in the newspapers," but your opinion of the subject doesn't really matter. Any group that is based on self-identification is going to have a certain amount of variation in it, and all attempts to declare who the "true" members are will inevitably fail.
charbarly 1 year ago
Since when did you need facts to debunk astrology? You only need a working mind. That's like using facts to debunk why 1+1 doesn't equal cupboard.
piip4 1 year ago 110
@piip4
hahahahahah! Nice
MysticEmergence 1 year ago
@piip4 but how do you know 1+1 doesn't equal cupboard? Maybe scientists will one day discover that it does too!!
qarusel 11 months ago
@qarusel
I really hope they don't...
piip4 11 months ago
@piip4 It doesn't? Fuck.
Al5ezdlt 3 months ago
@piip4 1+1 could equal cupboard.
fyflishfy 2 months ago
@piip4 true, but the morons that believe this shit will still argue for it
JaCkMiChEaLs0n 1 month ago
Bill nye the science NUUUEEEEERRRRRDDDDD!!!!
LOL nah I love him, he's awesome.
LOLDISNEYLAND 1 year ago
it baffles me to see why someone would believe in astrology. Even neglecting all of this evidence Bill Nye presents, it still sounds like garbage.
rockos414 1 year ago 3
What he is describing is not astrology so he hasn't debunked anything.
Sofi37Century 1 year ago
@Sofi37Century Uhhhh, yes it is and yes he did.
taelon757 1 year ago
@Sofi37Century Seeing as how astrology is based upon what sign you are...Im going to say yes he did debunk it.
i7887 1 year ago
definitely a sexy scorpio! lol.
patterntangle 2 years ago
bill you rock!
bonesawmachete 2 years ago
i think his both...fun loving and sexy
mesa134 2 years ago 2
bill nye is the best
anudeeptoora 2 years ago 45