@lordguner2993 demon spirit of the dark world, your time is past, for the salvation of the world is now, from all your magical powers, I thwart all your devices to beguile the world anylonger, be exposed and be disgrace in the name of Yahweh.
@lordguner2993 ignorance, again I say ignorance and gross blindness to the truth, If God created this whole world through Yahshua, what then is too hard for God Yahweh to do, Yes Yahshua can deliver from anything and any bondage, go read the bible and find out the truth, in case you have been deceived. Yahweh help you.
To those of you who do not know or understand this, don't judge most churches don't do deliverance. Its not taught in most and people are left in there bondage and suffer because of ignorance, and pastors and teachers, ect... scared of the devil.....
to all you doubters... these people r not faking anything. this is wut happens when the power of god comes near you. ive felt it myself, you should askn god to reveal him to you through his son jesus christ... amen!
@marajade11041 when i had "spirit guides" in my occult days they could find lost keys and tell about what was onthge other side of walls etc--- they were certainly "real" or i was so crazy i went psychic...
@lordguner2993 maybe you are the one who is retarded, cos you are totally ignorant of what is happening here, this is the manifestation of the power of Christ setting people free.
@MrJohnnyrace two years ago i would have agreed with you. i was brought up in pentecostal assemblies and what were called vineyard churches and saw some crazy stuff, similar to this scene. i turned away and became atheist for about ten years, but given the recent acknowledgements from the field of quantum physics and the direction the world is going it looks to me like there may actually be a god out there. why are atheists so desperate for there not to be a god?
@johnforfreedom Were not desperet for the tooth fairy or the easter bunny or santa clause. We simply see no credible evidence for any includung a god being.
@MrJohnnyrace I guess it depends on your idea of what god is (or would be). I personally can not believe that there is an all seeing, all knowing, non human, rightous and holy being sitting on high watching our demented world self destruct.this is the common view of religious zealots and atheists alike. prisoners of the physical senses. you should read immanuel kant(19th century philosopher). the search for spirituality(god) should be directed inward.
That whole place erupted into chaos. I notice that demonic attachments are stronger in societies were Christianity has never been. Those demons basically control that zone, and when a Christian church decides to set up shop there all hell breaks loose literally.
@keonmcanuff ...it's not fake as such, these people really do believe they have demons. It's hypnosis and mass hysteria. it's a good tool for brainwashing - they create with hypnosis techniques, playing on their insecurities and with the power of suggestion a state of mind that is utterly terrifying and traumatising. Then when it is gone, all that adrenaline is expelled and calm settles in, they tell them they are saved now the lord has made them safe again etc.
they blame the induced mass hysteria on demons and tell them that if they don't follow their lead, these demons will destroy them. before long these people are eating out of the palms of the elders hands.
Well, I am not sorry to tell you richkid401. But I have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal savior. The demons tremble when they even hear the sound of His name. I have personally experienced the supernatural and when a child of God uses the authority of Jesus, those demons come under the authority of Christ. I have the Holy Spirit possessing me. Darkness and light cannot occupy the same space. So, I do not have a demon or does any true Christian.
and yet God summoned satan into the very throne room...
Christ said we were to cast out demons---and we know not to cast them out of unbelievers or they come back worse...
paul's thorn was a messenger of satan---
i think there is some false teaching about believers not experiencing oppression--- saul faced a spirit---i see no scripture that says that a christian can not have a demonic force oppress them---lots suggest to be wary though--- every thought captive-
@hellothereitsjustme i would normally agree--- but it is not the case with this church-
i am there just about every sunday night---and use deliverence at the mission that i work at--- but silently--- i'd have to be svengalli to have word for word responses from the demons be mere hypnosis---and though my eyebrows are bushy--- not THAT bushy.....
@xxi777 I was brought up in the Latter Rain and Charismatic movements. These movements are extremely psychologically damaging to people - especially children, and those who are told that a disability or illness is a result of not having enough faith/because they are possessed, etc. I have met a lot more genuine, decent people outside the church than in it. I have been there and have believed I was having demons expelled from me. Now I see through that.
i woulda thought so too--- but no--- i've used it silently at work--- it is different than auto suggestion---etc...
( also i cross my legs when i'm at the church---which, who cares, eh? but a hypnotist would have you sit down---for some reason it buggers up hypnosis...weird but true....)
seem like a bogus "defense"? yeah well--- having the drunks at work responsd to what i prayed---word for word---is pretty cool...
manifestations like that are statistically rare--- but yes--- not the time i'm refering to-- we've had some also manifest in other ways---but the drunks at work are not the same as a deliverence ministry--you dont actually want to cast things out of the boys at work because the spirits would come back worse---at work we mostly bind them---
if we were doing deliverence though some would certainly thrash---most would just burp and yawn--like most deliverence services.
So the test for demonic possession instead of non-magical causes, is whether or not people 'stop mid-sentence'. Interesting. Ridiculous, but interesting nonetheless.
I was not asking if it was a person. I asked how you know the difference between a person 'choosing' to stop mid-sentence, and a supernatural 'daemon' causing the stop. Your thoughts?
it isn't always obvious--- BUT--- when a person is manifesting sometimes the demons will try to trick you---sounding like the person and claiming to be tired or whatever--- ask them who Jesus is---
a demon wont say Jesus is Lord or that He has come in the flesh---
it is weird getting them to confess that He is Lord ---they fight a long time--- i'll try to film it next time it comes up--- at the church--
There's some serious psychological shit going on in there!!
If U just listen without watching the video, it eirily sounds like the "sounds from hell" sound clip that came out years ago from Siberia. It was supposed to be proof of hell. It was a fake!
Anyway, this nightmare sure sounds like the "hell" video.!
Heres an interesting case study : There was a man stuck in a refridgerated railroad car. He convinced himself that where he might be there for a day or more that he was going to be found there frozen dead. He was later found with a note left for his family as a last message. He did die, however not from freezing. The refridgeration unit was not working. He actually convinced himself of the fact and died. The temp. was in the fifties. There have been many cases like this.
it is amazing to me.. mind over matter--- i had heard about the freezer fella before--
this is different though--- it works without words being spoken... i was plenty skeptical too-- still sometimes am--- some cases might be simple auto suggestion--
@hellothereitsjustme There is a direct corrolation between education and religions. The more uneducated, the more gullible. In America theres the Bi Bull belt. And then theres uneducated places like this in the video.
@MrJohnnyrace i agree--- the mis education in the west is terrible....it tries to down playthe invisible world---and cling to ideas that are based on 18th century so called science--- we now know that e=mc squared is wrong---but i still hear it shouted at me as a refutation of the spirit realms in debate rooms--- oh the mis education ofthe west!
@gratefulgibbin Regarding your comment about western teachings, can you please explain what you mean. I want to understand what you are saying. What do you mean, e=mc squared is wrong? Has it been disproven? And, what does that equation have to do with the spirit realm? Thank you :)
hi!!! i cant see the comment! but there is controversial evidence now that the speed of light is slowing down --we also now know that there are things that move faster than light, they now say that alpha is also not constant-western science ,who i do love, has dismissed some things because they are not visible ( though hinted at in kirlian photography etc). if they cant measure it, they dismiss it ( and if alpha is broken,what did they measure?) good theories are still just theories..
there are however things outside of these 11 dimensions ( 11 now? i dunno--- they might have counted more...) and some of them are nasty--
occult scientists laugh at you folks---
you might laugh at them, but that is just you, being a hick.
i have preformed occult experements that can be duplicated---and have so often that some creepy fella wrote them in a book--- whitey dont dig? boo hoo.
but dont come off like yer both geniuses and we are chumps-
Yes, I knew it was. Ever since the second world war the Germans and Russians have been experimenting with ESP, clairvoiance. They didnt have a very good average. If you are familier with Penn and Teller, they offer a one million dollar reward for anyone that can demonstrate true clairvoiance. That says a lot. Also our govt. is currently still investigating this subject.
yeah--- there are not too many uri gellers out there--- most use tricks that can be purchased from magic stores on line!
BUT-
when the "march for Jesus" was marching along past the "psychic fair" a few years back--- all the psychics came out and gave them guff for "messing with their powers". i think if i were joe psychic and the march for Jesus was messing with my scene--- i would get a new scene...
no--- too much proof in my daily life--- too much "prophecy"--- God says such---and it happens--- i dont think i am so crazy that i can see through space and time....
they go to the waterless places like the desert then the demon decided to come back to his own home, which is the body! then if he sees his house so empty, he comes back with seven other demons even wicked then him. then the behavior of that person will be worst then before....... see in matthew..
They'll probably go back to the people they left; unless you repent and are sanctified; you'll just invite more in with a clean house but not replaced with holiness.
People have free will and choose to sin. Many could care less about God or living a holy life, or salvation. Seperation from God: sinful nature. He didn't have to send His son to die on a cross but He did as the perfect sacrifice out of love. Now the church is full of apostacy (as spoken it would be in the last days), false doctrines and people reveling is sin w/out a care cursing God.
Did God know that Sin would definitely exist before He created anything?
Because if He already knows every definite outcome, then this is the reality that He 'wanted' to happen, as opposed to all other scenarios that He knew He could have chosen.
Before you tell me 'we can all choose to do something to contradict what God knows will definitely happen, tell me why it is or is not possible for us to Sin in heaven.
i think that He knew there would be a war in heaven--- and i think that He knew that there would be the fall---
hell is designed for the fallen ones, not for us--- BUT--- we will go---- some anyway...
this world is short--- the next one is long--- i think that He has to burn the whole broken bits--- no sin is in heaven....
the whole thing is meant to be solid--- and all angels will "get it" this time--- remember---He didn't make it as a bunch of robots--- we and they can choose...
He only 'has to' do what He wants to 'have to' do.
He did not 'have' to make a bunch of what you call 'robots'. He already knows what people would definitely choose, before they are born, 'without' controlling their thoughts.
He had a choice. Make a world 'with' sin, or a world 'without' sin. So you tell me which choice God chose to go with. God has free will too, and he chose to create a world with sin, rather than one without sin.
actually He made a world without sin until the fall. i imagine that it has to do with answering some of the accusations made before linear time line began
He will even let satan out of the pit after the millenial reign
it seems stupid to me, but i wasn't there for the war.
satan makes a war
God tosses a third out
satan tempts man and becomes "god" of earth
God sends a redeemer-
are you gonna start talking to Him about it? or just flip Him the bird to teach Him some sort of lesson?
1. Time does not 'begin', because at any point of reference, I could inquire as to what happened one second before, ad infinitum.
2. God knows everything, including the definite future. He knew 'the fall' would definitely happen, because that is how He wanted it to play out. If He did not want the Fall to happen, it would not have happened.
3. There is no need for a 'redeemer', because we all are acting exactly as God knew we would act.
1) linear time began-and yes one second before the "big bang"--- before the creation took place exists as well-i imagine much of it has to do with then.
2) the whole thing was foreknown- He knows who will accept it and who will not-He knew satan would rebel and all that-
it is not a WANT issue- i think it is a proof issue-all creation will now no longer question " what if" because it was played out-in the garden and here.
3) you can CHOOSE to speak to God-We are not robots-we have free will-
Define robot. We can only do what God allows us to do. If God did not want you to choose to respond, then you would not have responded. You do not have free will, because He has already placed the limits on what you are able to choose to do.
Eve did not have the ability to choose to follow any path other than what God knew and intended to happen.
Time did not 'begin'. Linear refers to line. Lines have infinite points in either direction. Time is not a ray.
hi! time is more like a blanket- we CAN choose-He knows but we choose. not all things that happen on earth are God's will, though He knew them. i have done things that were not God's will even when He warned me not to do them son of sam is now an evangelist this does not mean that the murders were God's will we have instincts and desires and choice we are interacting through the facets of self we have spirit AND soul we are each going to give account we are not just running a program
Wrong. If God did not want something to happen, it would be impossible to happen. He has total control. Men cannot do things that God did not want them to be able to definitely do. If God did not want men to sin, it would be impossible to sin.
i think that you are confusing God with something quite different. i can choose to sin---or i can choose not to- i think you overlook the "fallen" state of the world- and think it to be as it was at creation. its not, eh?. i also think that you disregard man's ability to choose. i can choose to end my life or steal a candy bar. these are choices. perhaps you think that there are no moral "laws"? the big ten? yet we all break them at times. contrary to the will of God.
God knows everything before it happens, right? Right.
God is all powerful, right? Right.
God chose what will exist and what will not exist, right? Right.
So God already made a choice, because God has free will. God had a choice to make a world with Sin, or a world without Sin. God chose to create a world with Sin. This is the world that God preferred, and He already made sure that men would fall/sin/etc. Nothing happens unless he wants it to.
though He did even design HOW the decay would be- He allowed us to do things on our own--- but remember the flood- we are existing in a middle period. post war- pre reign- and there is another war in a thousand years to go through- i think these are answers to "pre time" accusations and such. God preferred the garden and will prefer the millennium and after the last war i imagine He will prefer that- all creation screams for His return--- this is not how it was meant to be..
He preferred a 'need' for a war. He preferred to have a 'need' for a flood. He chose to create a world in which these things would happen. Otherwise, none of these events would have been possible. You continue to try to pass all of the responsibility To mankind... But man cannot do anything that God did not intend for mankind to do. Or is mankind able to do things that God had no power to forsee?
irrelevant about "wrong with that premise" the facts are as they are. pre linear time and post time being something that our little minds only glimpse. i dont totally like it- i dont totally dig the scene but it is true. need for a redeemer? well i am glad that i have the Holy Ghost and i needed Him i must encourage you to seek Him as well ask all yer learned questions to Him He answers sometimes through an old lady sometimes through a dream start talking to Him, bison as a good scientist.
Good scientists don't listen to voices in their heads. They report on the data as is, not how they want it to be.
It does not matter about a 'linear' description of time. Time did not 'begin', because one can always inquire as to what went on a second before.
If believing in magic and spirits helps you get through life's troubles, then by all means, do what works for you.All people who believe in Gods and monsters do the same.
Does he answer the prayers of starving children in dreams?
also--- i dont know all the religions--- and the charts that i saw online didn't list some that i do know---so there you go--- but most reincarnation beliefs defer to karma and most others have a judgement- is your soul heavier than a feather- were you a good boy-did you tick off the wood gods, etc. however- so what? there IS a heaven, there IS a hell and there IS a God. sorry that it bugs you. and the above video was not staged. deliverance works. split all the hairs you want but this is it.
So, man chose to disobey; no responsibility there for you I guess. You are really going out of your way to make excuses for yourself and actions. You are very prideful and your pure hatred of God is sickening; I'm done w/you; reap what you sow; and the blaming God thing is a joke.
You are really going out of your way to totally exonerate God. He chose to create a world in which man 'would' fall rather than a world in which man 'wouldnt' fall.
No matter what, a man can only do what God already knew the man was going to do. A man cannot 'surprise' an all knowing being. Period.
I don't care what you're 'done' with, and if calling God all-knowing and all-powerful is a sign of 'pure hatred of God', then you have a strange idea of hatred.lol
He's faithful to His word bro...In His infinite wisdom he allows demons to exist, and on rare occasion possess people. You can either put your faith in Him or not and look for flaws in His wisdom. When we're are talking about the supreme creator simple logic and philosiphy will not suffice when trying to complete understand Him. You learn about Him by faith, and listening to the Holy Spirit. That's how you REALLY learn. Not by questioning and defying.
We are not brothers. To randomly toss around the term, diminishes its value.
You don't 'learn' about somebody by blindly accepting what is said about them. You learn that they are legit through the most extensive testing you can muster. If they are as grand as the stories say, then all testing should render positive results.
Learning by 'faith'=just accept things and never think they can be wrong.
If he wanted people to be possessed, then possession by demons is a 'good' thing.
well, if anyone was screaming like a maniac and exerted their body to this extent, they would feel sick to the stomach and naturally start throwing up. these people look like they need mental institution, not some priest.
It is amazing how naive poor, uneducated people can be manipulated. Jim Jones, Jimmy Swaggart, Joel Osteen, they can all do this. Disgusting, taking advantage of these Filipinos.
even rich educated folks can be manipulated--- but joeseph isn't "fleecing the flock"
they fly there at their own expense...( well----- the church here in the west forks the bill....)
these folks are not being rooked over--- i dont think joeseph even recieves an honorarium from these nations--- but i'll ask him on sunday...and letcha know...
YUSSS!!!! hadsike cghkfd ngvhgdfjhgfcn sfdsdfgsd fsadhgfas kjfsdfhgcndfsgsd fjsdhgfjsad fjasdf sdjfg sdfghsdf is that some intense speaking in tongues or what!!
Lol... This should bring unbelievers to Jesus instead.. The reason they dont believe in GOD is because they dont think that there is life after death, that the spiritual world exists.Watching this they will no that SATAN is real. and will seek the protection and authority that God has for us.
Sorry schizophrenia is not. Ask a doctor, not a witch doctor. It is not a spiret. This is almost 2010 And people know with science these things arent real. But thankyou for the info, Take Care
the more i get involved in it the more i see it work--- and usually i am silent--- so anyy effects are not "placebo" unless the person is a mind reader....
ingay nyo!!!!mali aral nyo
aliens301 2 weeks ago
all things are made through him and so--you are correct!
you should turn all your anger toward HIM and see what happens! you might have a "road to damascus" exprience--many do!
gratefulgibbin 8 months ago
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gratefulgibbin 8 months ago
@lordguner2993
not from anything---but through anything, yep!
gratefulgibbin 8 months ago
@calledbyfire Dw jesus loves u 2 even no ur retarded :P
lordguner2993 8 months ago
@lordguner2993 demon spirit of the dark world, your time is past, for the salvation of the world is now, from all your magical powers, I thwart all your devices to beguile the world anylonger, be exposed and be disgrace in the name of Yahweh.
calledbyfire 8 months ago
@lordguner2993 ignorance, again I say ignorance and gross blindness to the truth, If God created this whole world through Yahshua, what then is too hard for God Yahweh to do, Yes Yahshua can deliver from anything and any bondage, go read the bible and find out the truth, in case you have been deceived. Yahweh help you.
calledbyfire 8 months ago
All glory to God
wesblood007 11 months ago 2
wow praise God! God delivered in that church.
jossan92513 11 months ago
This woman was clearly just psychotic, they should take her to the hospital, not infect her with another disorder (christianity).
Wisdomhappydotcom 11 months ago
Good to see some churches awake.
WTU208 1 year ago 2
There is lots of witch craft going on in the Philippines. I'm glad those demons are fleeing.
taoistwarrior 1 year ago 2
Demon possessed my ass...she is just having a tantrum.
mariesadler 1 year ago
@mariesadler its amazingwhen you sit there and see it and yet you still dont believe
joecookDE 1 year ago
To those of you who do not know or understand this, don't judge most churches don't do deliverance. Its not taught in most and people are left in there bondage and suffer because of ignorance, and pastors and teachers, ect... scared of the devil.....
mtlindale 1 year ago
to all you doubters... these people r not faking anything. this is wut happens when the power of god comes near you. ive felt it myself, you should askn god to reveal him to you through his son jesus christ... amen!
noooblover 1 year ago
@noooblover This isn't the power of God, it's a combination of mass hysteria and group hypnosis.
marajade11041 1 year ago
@marajade11041 it does look that way... but its not.. I know first hand. if it happend to you you would believe
noooblover 1 year ago
@noooblover Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are tons of people in psych wards who think the voices in their heads are real too.
marajade11041 1 year ago
@marajade11041 when i had "spirit guides" in my occult days they could find lost keys and tell about what was onthge other side of walls etc--- they were certainly "real" or i was so crazy i went psychic...
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@marajade11041
nope-- i thought so too till i used it silently at work--- either the drunks can hear my thoughts or it works...
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@noooblover You are very right, only those who feel it will know it.
calledbyfire 1 year ago
idiots
andrisbiedrins 1 year ago
@andrisbiedrins they r not idiots. you r blind my friend
noooblover 1 year ago
Who rules your spirit, you who doubt?
Pro 25:28 He that hath no rule over his own spirit is like a city that is broken down, and without walls.
Do you know anything?
Pro 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
Php 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
fishermanpete 1 year ago
@fishermanpete Great words, keep the fire burning.
calledbyfire 1 year ago
lol their reterded xD
lordguner2993 1 year ago
@lordguner2993 maybe you are the one who is retarded, cos you are totally ignorant of what is happening here, this is the manifestation of the power of Christ setting people free.
calledbyfire 1 year ago
what do you expect from people that believe god is an old man living in the sky that rewards or punishes you as he sees fit?
dixiejon 1 year ago
@dixiejon not just a man---- male and female He created them in His image--- and yep---it's true....
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
I guess acting like an epileptic means something religious.
killamonkey 1 year ago
Looks like a mental ward. Actually it is. Religions and superstitions (same thing) do this to the weak minded.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
@MrJohnnyrace two years ago i would have agreed with you. i was brought up in pentecostal assemblies and what were called vineyard churches and saw some crazy stuff, similar to this scene. i turned away and became atheist for about ten years, but given the recent acknowledgements from the field of quantum physics and the direction the world is going it looks to me like there may actually be a god out there. why are atheists so desperate for there not to be a god?
johnforfreedom 1 year ago
@johnforfreedom Were not desperet for the tooth fairy or the easter bunny or santa clause. We simply see no credible evidence for any includung a god being.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
@MrJohnnyrace I guess it depends on your idea of what god is (or would be). I personally can not believe that there is an all seeing, all knowing, non human, rightous and holy being sitting on high watching our demented world self destruct.this is the common view of religious zealots and atheists alike. prisoners of the physical senses. you should read immanuel kant(19th century philosopher). the search for spirituality(god) should be directed inward.
johnforfreedom 1 year ago
@johnforfreedom You just summed up my argument, you said pentacostal. How much more delusional can you get.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
That whole place erupted into chaos. I notice that demonic attachments are stronger in societies were Christianity has never been. Those demons basically control that zone, and when a Christian church decides to set up shop there all hell breaks loose literally.
Ana1106 1 year ago
@Ana1106 that is true the enemy doesnt like giving up what he thinks is his
joecookDE 1 year ago
this is a little chaotic, and i am a christian!
j75j89 1 year ago
Addendum:
IS THE WORD JESUS CHRIST AS PERSONAL SAVIOR BIBLICAL? WHAT VERSE?
amg0364730 1 year ago
This is just auto suggestion....Or just a HUMAN TRADITION...to all new converts.
Find a good counselor, those who had PhD. and have a good sleep.
amg0364730 1 year ago
@amg0364730
not auto suggestion--- i thought so too--- til i used it at work---and silently...
amazing!
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
Woww, there are some real deliverances going on there.
jeanlenor 1 year ago 2
Amen! Jesus is wonderful!
QueenOfKisses 1 year ago 2
Confusion? two stars for trying
sidebarr7 1 year ago
fake
keonmcanuff 2 years ago
@keonmcanuff ...it's not fake as such, these people really do believe they have demons. It's hypnosis and mass hysteria. it's a good tool for brainwashing - they create with hypnosis techniques, playing on their insecurities and with the power of suggestion a state of mind that is utterly terrifying and traumatising. Then when it is gone, all that adrenaline is expelled and calm settles in, they tell them they are saved now the lord has made them safe again etc.
hellothereitsjustme 2 years ago
they blame the induced mass hysteria on demons and tell them that if they don't follow their lead, these demons will destroy them. before long these people are eating out of the palms of the elders hands.
hellothereitsjustme 2 years ago
you probably have a few demons yourself.
bryanhewitt1964 1 year ago
lol don't be so bloody ridiculous.
hellothereitsjustme 1 year ago
yu 2 we all do
richkid401 1 year ago
Well, I am not sorry to tell you richkid401. But I have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as my personal savior. The demons tremble when they even hear the sound of His name. I have personally experienced the supernatural and when a child of God uses the authority of Jesus, those demons come under the authority of Christ. I have the Holy Spirit possessing me. Darkness and light cannot occupy the same space. So, I do not have a demon or does any true Christian.
bryanhewitt1964 1 year ago
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gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@bryanhewitt1964
lots of bible believing , Spirit filled christains have demonic attachments to them---
light and dark is not a valid argument--- God summoned satan to the very throne room---
i've had stuff cast out, and i have the Holy Ghost---
can you post a scripture that says otherwise? no--- THAT is tradition taught by men--- sorry---
"you know not of what spirit you speak" was before pentacost--- but the message is still the same---
annas and saphira?
were they spirit filled?
probably.
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@bryanhewitt1964
ask the Lord about it....
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@bryanhewitt1964. You need help.
hellothereitsjustme 1 year ago
@bryanhewitt1964
and yet God summoned satan into the very throne room...
Christ said we were to cast out demons---and we know not to cast them out of unbelievers or they come back worse...
paul's thorn was a messenger of satan---
i think there is some false teaching about believers not experiencing oppression--- saul faced a spirit---i see no scripture that says that a christian can not have a demonic force oppress them---lots suggest to be wary though--- every thought captive-
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@bryanhewitt1964
most folks do
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@hellothereitsjustme i would normally agree--- but it is not the case with this church-
i am there just about every sunday night---and use deliverence at the mission that i work at--- but silently--- i'd have to be svengalli to have word for word responses from the demons be mere hypnosis---and though my eyebrows are bushy--- not THAT bushy.....
cheers!
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@hellothereitsjustme
nope--- i go to the church that these guys come from--- they dont say that---ever.
most folks just yawn and burp--manifestations like this are fairly rare.
i've used this at work---silently---no mass hypnosis or auto suggestion--- just silent prayer.
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@hellothereitsjustme what experience do you have in the field of spiritual warfare and deliverance?
xxi777 1 year ago
@xxi777 I was brought up in the Latter Rain and Charismatic movements. These movements are extremely psychologically damaging to people - especially children, and those who are told that a disability or illness is a result of not having enough faith/because they are possessed, etc. I have met a lot more genuine, decent people outside the church than in it. I have been there and have believed I was having demons expelled from me. Now I see through that.
hellothereitsjustme 1 year ago
@hellothereitsjustme
i woulda thought so too--- but no--- i've used it silently at work--- it is different than auto suggestion---etc...
( also i cross my legs when i'm at the church---which, who cares, eh? but a hypnotist would have you sit down---for some reason it buggers up hypnosis...weird but true....)
seem like a bogus "defense"? yeah well--- having the drunks at work responsd to what i prayed---word for word---is pretty cool...
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@gratefulgibbin did the 'drunks' at work thrash about and scream like these people?
hellothereitsjustme 1 year ago
@hellothereitsjustme
manifestations like that are statistically rare--- but yes--- not the time i'm refering to-- we've had some also manifest in other ways---but the drunks at work are not the same as a deliverence ministry--you dont actually want to cast things out of the boys at work because the spirits would come back worse---at work we mostly bind them---
if we were doing deliverence though some would certainly thrash---most would just burp and yawn--like most deliverence services.
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
So the test for demonic possession instead of non-magical causes, is whether or not people 'stop mid-sentence'. Interesting. Ridiculous, but interesting nonetheless.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
not the "test" ---
just a difference...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
@gratefulgibbin so if they stop mid-sentence on purpose, then what?
Darkbison7 2 years ago
well--- i guess yer asking "what if it's a person---and not a spirit"? then i guess it's a person.
merry Christmas, mr bison....
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
@gratefulgibbin Happy 'Yule-tide' Season, gibbin.
I was not asking if it was a person. I asked how you know the difference between a person 'choosing' to stop mid-sentence, and a supernatural 'daemon' causing the stop. Your thoughts?
Darkbison7 2 years ago
it isn't always obvious--- BUT--- when a person is manifesting sometimes the demons will try to trick you---sounding like the person and claiming to be tired or whatever--- ask them who Jesus is---
a demon wont say Jesus is Lord or that He has come in the flesh---
it is weird getting them to confess that He is Lord ---they fight a long time--- i'll try to film it next time it comes up--- at the church--
LOVE!
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
rather--- ifit happens i will ask colin to try to zoom in on it...
LOVE!
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
how in the hell does this make demons real.... looks like to me the people are getting into the preaching...just sayin..
1atkmaulerz 2 years ago
it doesn't "make" them real-- but they are
suprisingly real...
that's more "into the preaching" than i have ever seen....
and more like "out of" than into, eh?
LOVE!
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
There's some serious psychological shit going on in there!!
If U just listen without watching the video, it eirily sounds like the "sounds from hell" sound clip that came out years ago from Siberia. It was supposed to be proof of hell. It was a fake!
Anyway, this nightmare sure sounds like the "hell" video.!
Cootabux 2 years ago
Yes, the human mind is a very powerfull tool. Peoples attitudes often aid in good health.
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
Right Johnny, and this is one of the main reasons people become so deluded and obsessed with religion!
Cootabux 2 years ago
Thats carrot with a T. I think there still isnt enough convincing evidence to show me. But, its all fun to watch, like a Harry Potter movie.
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
it IS kinda fascinating---
even if it were merely auto suggestion--- it is fascinating.
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Heres an interesting case study : There was a man stuck in a refridgerated railroad car. He convinced himself that where he might be there for a day or more that he was going to be found there frozen dead. He was later found with a note left for his family as a last message. He did die, however not from freezing. The refridgeration unit was not working. He actually convinced himself of the fact and died. The temp. was in the fifties. There have been many cases like this.
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
it is amazing to me.. mind over matter--- i had heard about the freezer fella before--
this is different though--- it works without words being spoken... i was plenty skeptical too-- still sometimes am--- some cases might be simple auto suggestion--
but not at work..
and fortunately--- not for cash!
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
I would like to see a team of Doctors go in there and study these people.
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
@MrJohnnyrace the power of the human mind... and suggestions made to it...
hellothereitsjustme 1 year ago
@hellothereitsjustme Yes, uneducated people like these believe in this crap. Mental illness is their own superstitous minds.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
@MrJohnnyrace - not just uneducated people. People from all walks of life get suckered in.
hellothereitsjustme 1 year ago
@hellothereitsjustme There is a direct corrolation between education and religions. The more uneducated, the more gullible. In America theres the Bi Bull belt. And then theres uneducated places like this in the video.
MrJohnnyrace 1 year ago
@MrJohnnyrace i agree--- the mis education in the west is terrible....it tries to down playthe invisible world---and cling to ideas that are based on 18th century so called science--- we now know that e=mc squared is wrong---but i still hear it shouted at me as a refutation of the spirit realms in debate rooms--- oh the mis education ofthe west!
(God bless you Johnnyrace!!!!)
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@gratefulgibbin Regarding your comment about western teachings, can you please explain what you mean. I want to understand what you are saying. What do you mean, e=mc squared is wrong? Has it been disproven? And, what does that equation have to do with the spirit realm? Thank you :)
BEEBEE159 10 months ago
@BEEBEE159
hi!!! i cant see the comment! but there is controversial evidence now that the speed of light is slowing down --we also now know that there are things that move faster than light, they now say that alpha is also not constant-western science ,who i do love, has dismissed some things because they are not visible ( though hinted at in kirlian photography etc). if they cant measure it, they dismiss it ( and if alpha is broken,what did they measure?) good theories are still just theories..
gratefulgibbin 10 months ago
@gratefulgibbin Yah why not cling to millenia old ideas
smallfellow 6 months ago
it's bad luck to be superstitious...
there are however things outside of these 11 dimensions ( 11 now? i dunno--- they might have counted more...) and some of them are nasty--
occult scientists laugh at you folks---
you might laugh at them, but that is just you, being a hick.
i have preformed occult experements that can be duplicated---and have so often that some creepy fella wrote them in a book--- whitey dont dig? boo hoo.
but dont come off like yer both geniuses and we are chumps-
LOL
gratefulgibbin 1 year ago
@gratefulgibbin
please dont be overly upset---
mr.dawkins is also a hick ,
and i suppose you think he is some kind of hero... :)
but there is more to the universe than what we have seen in these three dimensions, regardless of what the folks "believe"..
LOVE!!!
gratefulgibbin 8 months ago
Again, powers?? Thats VERY debatable to say the Physics or the others. The burdon of proof is required on BOTH parties involved.
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
tarot works....
dont mess with it---but it does...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Yes, I knew it was. Ever since the second world war the Germans and Russians have been experimenting with ESP, clairvoiance. They didnt have a very good average. If you are familier with Penn and Teller, they offer a one million dollar reward for anyone that can demonstrate true clairvoiance. That says a lot. Also our govt. is currently still investigating this subject.
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
yeah--- there are not too many uri gellers out there--- most use tricks that can be purchased from magic stores on line!
BUT-
when the "march for Jesus" was marching along past the "psychic fair" a few years back--- all the psychics came out and gave them guff for "messing with their powers". i think if i were joe psychic and the march for Jesus was messing with my scene--- i would get a new scene...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
lmao
neoarcadezr 2 years ago
This is disgusting
Pyrrhic24 2 years ago
wow, right back into the dark ages. everyone in this vid should just chill and go to mickie d's instead.
NotTooObvious 2 years ago
Yes, it is The Phillapines, need I say more !!!! They do crucifictions today. They are a very primative ignorant superstitous culture.
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
well--- i woulda agreed--- but there actually are dark angels--- and they can be dealt with.
i thought it was just simple auto suggestion til i started using it at work--- silently--- and the things responded.
weird, eh?
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
i would have agreed but i can not---
God is real---
and actually---deliverance is real...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
gratefulgoblin
God is only real in your mind.
Killer0fTheSun 2 years ago
goblin! LOVE IT!
no--- too much proof in my daily life--- too much "prophecy"--- God says such---and it happens--- i dont think i am so crazy that i can see through space and time....
cheers!
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
greatfulgotblin
You are only believing in your own delusions.
Killer0fTheSun 2 years ago
as in " all reality is illusion and therefore all experience is delusion"?
wow! yer trippy!
no--- i have had too much "synchronicity" to doubt any more.
once is chance--- twice---an odd orcurrance--- but every day for ten years?
too fascinating.
cheers!
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
gratefulgoblin
Self delusion is ones own ride.Your ride has ended long ago,time to get off.
Killer0fTheSun 2 years ago
gibbin, email toronto. lost your info.
barlowetube 2 years ago
mr sak?
check yer g mail...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
i thought so too til i started using it at work--- behaviors change-- yelling folks go silent---and other stuff--- when i pray silently!
one fella even came up and spoke to me about something that i had just prayed--- it was a spirit---it was mad--- but had to stop its weird gig.
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
they go anywhere they're allowed to go
bluespidey1 2 years ago
they go a few places---and they really fight not to--- it's really weird to watch them "bargain" and such----
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Where do the cast out demons go?
FishingtonBurpPuzzle 2 years ago
they go to the waterless places like the desert then the demon decided to come back to his own home, which is the body! then if he sees his house so empty, he comes back with seven other demons even wicked then him. then the behavior of that person will be worst then before....... see in matthew..
sciencebible 2 years ago
They'll probably go back to the people they left; unless you repent and are sanctified; you'll just invite more in with a clean house but not replaced with holiness.
ManChildWitness 2 years ago
They go nowhere because they don't exist in the first place.
th3w01fv2 2 years ago 2
So basically, God knew such demons would take control of people, and just sat back and let it happen.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
People have free will and choose to sin. Many could care less about God or living a holy life, or salvation. Seperation from God: sinful nature. He didn't have to send His son to die on a cross but He did as the perfect sacrifice out of love. Now the church is full of apostacy (as spoken it would be in the last days), false doctrines and people reveling is sin w/out a care cursing God.
ManChildWitness 2 years ago
Answer this question:
Did God know that Sin would definitely exist before He created anything?
Because if He already knows every definite outcome, then this is the reality that He 'wanted' to happen, as opposed to all other scenarios that He knew He could have chosen.
Before you tell me 'we can all choose to do something to contradict what God knows will definitely happen, tell me why it is or is not possible for us to Sin in heaven.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
i think that He knew there would be a war in heaven--- and i think that He knew that there would be the fall---
hell is designed for the fallen ones, not for us--- BUT--- we will go---- some anyway...
this world is short--- the next one is long--- i think that He has to burn the whole broken bits--- no sin is in heaven....
the whole thing is meant to be solid--- and all angels will "get it" this time--- remember---He didn't make it as a bunch of robots--- we and they can choose...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
He only 'has to' do what He wants to 'have to' do.
He did not 'have' to make a bunch of what you call 'robots'. He already knows what people would definitely choose, before they are born, 'without' controlling their thoughts.
He had a choice. Make a world 'with' sin, or a world 'without' sin. So you tell me which choice God chose to go with. God has free will too, and he chose to create a world with sin, rather than one without sin.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
actually He made a world without sin until the fall. i imagine that it has to do with answering some of the accusations made before linear time line began
He will even let satan out of the pit after the millenial reign
it seems stupid to me, but i wasn't there for the war.
satan makes a war
God tosses a third out
satan tempts man and becomes "god" of earth
God sends a redeemer-
are you gonna start talking to Him about it? or just flip Him the bird to teach Him some sort of lesson?
you choose.
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Several things wrong with that premise.
1. Time does not 'begin', because at any point of reference, I could inquire as to what happened one second before, ad infinitum.
2. God knows everything, including the definite future. He knew 'the fall' would definitely happen, because that is how He wanted it to play out. If He did not want the Fall to happen, it would not have happened.
3. There is no need for a 'redeemer', because we all are acting exactly as God knew we would act.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
1) linear time began-and yes one second before the "big bang"--- before the creation took place exists as well-i imagine much of it has to do with then.
2) the whole thing was foreknown- He knows who will accept it and who will not-He knew satan would rebel and all that-
it is not a WANT issue- i think it is a proof issue-all creation will now no longer question " what if" because it was played out-in the garden and here.
3) you can CHOOSE to speak to God-We are not robots-we have free will-
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Define robot. We can only do what God allows us to do. If God did not want you to choose to respond, then you would not have responded. You do not have free will, because He has already placed the limits on what you are able to choose to do.
Eve did not have the ability to choose to follow any path other than what God knew and intended to happen.
Time did not 'begin'. Linear refers to line. Lines have infinite points in either direction. Time is not a ray.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Wrong. If God did not want something to happen, it would be impossible to happen. He has total control. Men cannot do things that God did not want them to be able to definitely do. If God did not want men to sin, it would be impossible to sin.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
I'm not confusing anything.
God knows everything before it happens, right? Right.
God is all powerful, right? Right.
God chose what will exist and what will not exist, right? Right.
So God already made a choice, because God has free will. God had a choice to make a world with Sin, or a world without Sin. God chose to create a world with Sin. This is the world that God preferred, and He already made sure that men would fall/sin/etc. Nothing happens unless he wants it to.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Darkbison7 2 years ago
i'm not saying it's man's fault- i'm just saying that not all things on earth are His will.
the need for the final war is in answer to something prior to the creation of the "universe".
the first war.
had He made it so that there was no possibility for sin---
no rebellion and no lucifer-
there would only have been the good but without the choice to do so.
having the choice in the mix was imo a bad idea, but who cares what i think. i wish i were a pure robot! that would be swell!
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Good scientists don't listen to voices in their heads. They report on the data as is, not how they want it to be.
It does not matter about a 'linear' description of time. Time did not 'begin', because one can always inquire as to what went on a second before.
If believing in magic and spirits helps you get through life's troubles, then by all means, do what works for you.All people who believe in Gods and monsters do the same.
Does he answer the prayers of starving children in dreams?
Darkbison7 2 years ago
there is a zero on the number line-
some argue that the "line" begins at zero-
this universe began. that is what we call time-not what God calls time.
there will be famines. it will get way worse yet-
magic also works-
i was into occult and such before getting all "hooked on Jesus"
i rarely hear a voice... usually other ways of communicating.
the meek shall inherit the earth-- so i guess the answer is "wait"--- though many get wells etc--- uganda changed through prayer...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
On the number line, there are unlimited numbers on either side. At your 'zero' moment, I can ask about the preceding five minutes.
You went from one occult to another, apparently.
I care not for 'inheriting' the Earth. Only a religion built on greed, fear and ambition promises rewards and punishments.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
it's the preceding "five minutes" that we are discussing.
apparently yes-one occult to another- sorta- but this one is far more
more.
i think all religions promise rewards and punishments-
i cant really think of one that doesn't hope to be a reward in itself-
most know that there is a hell.
a good scientist would test the voice-repeatedly- but once labeled would heed it-depending on the findings.
care not?
there are more things in the universe than what we see
on that day, many will care.
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Name all the religions you know. I assure you, they do not all 'promise rewards'.
A good scientist would submit his claim of 'hearing a voice' to independent scrutiny from another party.
We can hardly 'see' anything. Gravity for example.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
i only have 500 characters- so all the religions i know will likely have to wait. scrutiny-yes- and also experimentation. i did both.
yes- we can hardly see anything.
you scoff at inheriting--- but have no idea at all what you are scoffing at- you cant see it.
others have.
don't totally rip yourself off with this
"intellectual superiority" (while the "starving child" who prays is vastly wiser.)
the meek inherit not the smart arse.
( though the smart arse is forgiven! even me!)
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
God had free will too.
He had a choice: Create a world in which 'The Fall' would happen, and a world in which 'The Fall' would NOT happen.
Tell me which scenario God chose to run with.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
So, man chose to disobey; no responsibility there for you I guess. You are really going out of your way to make excuses for yourself and actions. You are very prideful and your pure hatred of God is sickening; I'm done w/you; reap what you sow; and the blaming God thing is a joke.
ManChildWitness 2 years ago
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Darkbison7 2 years ago
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You are really going out of your way to totally exonerate God. He chose to create a world in which man 'would' fall rather than a world in which man 'wouldnt' fall.
No matter what, a man can only do what God already knew the man was going to do. A man cannot 'surprise' an all knowing being. Period.
I don't care what you're 'done' with, and if calling God all-knowing and all-powerful is a sign of 'pure hatred of God', then you have a strange idea of hatred.lol
God chose to have Sin.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
He's faithful to His word bro...In His infinite wisdom he allows demons to exist, and on rare occasion possess people. You can either put your faith in Him or not and look for flaws in His wisdom. When we're are talking about the supreme creator simple logic and philosiphy will not suffice when trying to complete understand Him. You learn about Him by faith, and listening to the Holy Spirit. That's how you REALLY learn. Not by questioning and defying.
PeterCPohl 2 years ago
We are not brothers. To randomly toss around the term, diminishes its value.
You don't 'learn' about somebody by blindly accepting what is said about them. You learn that they are legit through the most extensive testing you can muster. If they are as grand as the stories say, then all testing should render positive results.
Learning by 'faith'=just accept things and never think they can be wrong.
If he wanted people to be possessed, then possession by demons is a 'good' thing.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
but he didn't--- that's why He said to cast them out...
yer logic is kinda broken, eh?
you think that ALL THINGS are His will--- the bible says that they are not.
(you dont THINK it of course--- yer saving for some big "aha" i guess.)
LOTS happened in that book that was contrary to the will of God--- most of kings 1 and two at least!
sorry man-- you've gone from cum jokes to strident " why is this so" arguments---
but yer points are uh ---
i guess it's hard with only 500 char. (?)
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
"I saw Jesus last week at this party, he was playing darts with Santa Claus and Easter Bunny"
sopera123 2 years ago
well, if anyone was screaming like a maniac and exerted their body to this extent, they would feel sick to the stomach and naturally start throwing up. these people look like they need mental institution, not some priest.
sopera123 2 years ago
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xiiaoCHUNKY 2 years ago
actually -rarely do people throw up food--- just bile... it's weird.
a gal drank a thermos of orange juice---and threw up only the bile--- which is pretty strange--- but that's the way it is...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
that Jozef guy must make big buck off of dumb people
sopera123 2 years ago
u really have no idea..
xiiaoCHUNKY 2 years ago
nope.
i know the fella---
he is not raking in a big buck off anyone.
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
It is amazing how naive poor, uneducated people can be manipulated. Jim Jones, Jimmy Swaggart, Joel Osteen, they can all do this. Disgusting, taking advantage of these Filipinos.
aguas44 2 years ago
even rich educated folks can be manipulated--- but joeseph isn't "fleecing the flock"
they fly there at their own expense...( well----- the church here in the west forks the bill....)
these folks are not being rooked over--- i dont think joeseph even recieves an honorarium from these nations--- but i'll ask him on sunday...and letcha know...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
turns out that the folks often give them a offering--- usually enough for supper---- joeseph would rather say no--- but they are insistent...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Looks like these people are being possessed with mass hysteria induced by a fanatical and out of control religous sect. what a circus.
grantos77 2 years ago
i thought so too til i started using it at work--- it's real.
some might be auto suggestion--- but most is real.
weird but true...
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
sad thing is even those who have been born again and already Christians are still being pocessed....
leonelrevilla4g92a 2 years ago
opression and possesion are not the same thing, eh?
but yes--- it is a drag indeed.
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Angels and demons excist.
Amazingsunny71 2 years ago
So what's next for Pastor Jozef Jasinski? Handing out the kool-aid?
jkben1982 2 years ago
nah, sacrificing chickens.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
YUSSS!!!! hadsike cghkfd ngvhgdfjhgfcn sfdsdfgsd fsadhgfas kjfsdfhgcndfsgsd fjsdhgfjsad fjasdf sdjfg sdfghsdf is that some intense speaking in tongues or what!!
kellyslaternearly 2 years ago
Lol... This should bring unbelievers to Jesus instead.. The reason they dont believe in GOD is because they dont think that there is life after death, that the spiritual world exists.Watching this they will no that SATAN is real. and will seek the protection and authority that God has for us.
bronx34 2 years ago
No, google 'scizophrenia'
There are no demons. Black people in this video are just being total idiots.
Education is the key.
Darkbison7 2 years ago
u have no idea...
manny2189 2 years ago
this will make you possibly LOL,
but
schizophrenia is actually a collection of spirits...
education is the key.
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
Sorry schizophrenia is not. Ask a doctor, not a witch doctor. It is not a spiret. This is almost 2010 And people know with science these things arent real. But thankyou for the info, Take Care
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
i see this same thing on christian evangelist shows. they do it to get your money
NotTooObvious 2 years ago
Yes, its all about the money. They prey upon the weak minded.
MrJohnnyrace 2 years ago
not this group--- they dont really get much cash from this---it costs them money!
but yeah---sadly there are scammers out there....
these guys are for real at least.
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago
ok, well if it isn't for money, then they are just plain insane.
NotTooObvious 2 years ago
;)
koo koo for Christ?
the more i get involved in it the more i see it work--- and usually i am silent--- so anyy effects are not "placebo" unless the person is a mind reader....
weird, eh?
gratefulgibbin 2 years ago