human cant invision what a giga year is ? hell no we cant even invion what a year is simply because years mean different to us at different ages like im 14 a year is 1/14 of my like for a two year old a year is 1/2 of his life and for an 80 year old 1/80th so we dont have a standard unit of feeling (if u know what i mean) for a year lol its incredible how dont even think about this stuff
in spanish a billion are one million of millons, and a trillion are 1 million of million of millions, so for the americans a billion are one thousend millions and 1 million of milions are a trillion... lets stick to the latin and all that giga stuff ....
well, actually I don't get what is so special about a Gyr. Because it's just 10^9 years, it's like 10^12 Byte or Tera Byte. Even if you say Giga year, it is sill not easycomparable. PS: I'm 0.678 Gsec old.
@Blacksun777 Think of it this way: Imagine you're going out and waiting for someone and he/she is late. Waiting for an hour seems very tedious and it seems like an eternity right? Now imagine waiting for a Gyr...
Near the end, at 3:50- 3:54 the guy says that a Megayear is 10 to the 6. You might want to put an annotation to clear it up that that means 10^6 and not 10x10^6, because that's a difference of 9 Megayears and I know many people who instead of saying, "Times ten to the x" will just say "[number] to the x" but mean "ten to the x". Just don't want anyone to be confused, even though it's right there :P
@kristijanadrian Er? Only metres? Not quite. The choice of units depends on the application. When measuring distances within the (or rather any) solar system you would use astronomical units, and outside the solar system you would use parsecs; metres would be a pretty poor choice in both cases.
ok so when you say year are you referring to the 365Day Year we experience on earth or another type of year. Since we are talking about the universe and Time through out the universe isn't defined the same way. I mean I get what is being said, a gigayear is a long time but when you think of time we just associate it with the time we experience on earth, but Time in the universe is vastly different in the context of time.
@4jonah Megayears, yes. Terayears, they may very occasionally use when talking about the future of the Universe - remember the Universe is only 13.7 Gigayears old, so...
That's exactly why there are these prefixes. A billion is different in different languages, giga is not.
(American) English counts: million -> billion -> trillion... for every x1000
German (as does French) has Million -> Milliarde -> Billion -> Billiarde -> Trillion. So a "Billion" in german is a trillion in english (which causes many errors in news and even popular science mags).
British English has afaik (I'm not a native speaker) both, but mostly uses the AE meanings.
@superdau they mostly use the american usage. not because our version is "superior" or anything, but just for standardization it makes sense to go with what more people are using (when there isn't any real difference, anyway)
@superdau We do that in Danish too (talking about German and French). It's really quite confusing sometimes when watching videos like these (or even reading it on paper), because you immediately think, "Billion, that's 10^12," which is what a billion would be in Danish. Honestly, I think the American approach makes the most sense, especially in terms of consistency and understanding. I wish we used that as well. I do think it's very good we have the prefixes, though. Much easier to understand.
It seems like the wrong unit if your figures are more precise - I get the sense that with "only" a max of 14, you'd spill down into points and point zeros of a giga year a lot, almost begging to use hundreds and tens of mega years.
Is there a unit that is to mega and giga, what centi is to milli and meter?
(BTW it might just be me but the internal rhyme and alliterative feature in that last sentence almost seems to beg to start a dirty poem about planks(') lengths...;)
We should just use scientific prefixes when talking about money. Then maybe we'd see that numbers relating to the economy are not astronomically high, but rather numbers in astronomy are economically high.
I heard someone say once that human perspective is logarithmically and chronologically equidistant from the micro and macro scales. Quite a neat way of looking at things...
@LordNapalm It's not easier to understand...it's just easier to write. :-P You know about metric units and scientific notation don't you? Well it's the same idea.
Since you're writing here, you're using a computer. A computer which likely has gigabytes of RAM, terabytes of harddisk space, is connected to the net with a megabit/s connection. You take your photos with a megapixel camera with milliseconds exposure time. You're using it all the time already.
btw. in many languages (e.g. german and french) a "billion" is actually an english trillion, which leads to many mistranslations. "giga" is unambiguous.
@LordNapalm The notation is G, like gigabyte, or gigameter or gigalitre. It's a standard prefix that most of the English speaking world learns in elementary school. I have no idea why you wouldn't already be familiar with it, unless maybe you're American or you dropped out in grade 3.
@LordNapalm Why use B for billion, B has several other connotations in physics, including being the symbol for several different units, with at least two of them being important in astronomy, when we have a complete set of universally understood (by physicists and other scientists anyway) set of standard form prefixes that are simpler to use, here being Gigayears (Actually scientifically known as a Giga annum) or Ga?
I cannot conceive of these lengths of time... which may explain why creationists mock evolution. They do not understand how much time is involved in going from a protocell to a human being.
@Kargoneth in a creation vs evolution argument I like to extrapolate the available evolutionary time to generations of life or amount of time the DNA has regenerated. With that, you get a much bigger number with trillions of generations and trillions of mutation and natural selection instances since the first protocells to human.
Units that don't appear in daily life are a funny thing. One of my hobbies is electronics, where things can happen on the scale of nanoseconds. After programming microcontrollers with this scale in mind even microseconds start to feel long! Seems to work the other way round, too. What's a million years? Nothing!
The same happens with pressure and temperature: once you dealt with pressures lower than on Pluto and measure temperature in Kelvin only, you get a whole new perspective of nature!
We know how old the earth is basically because of radiometric dating. Certain isotopes decay at known rates so if we look at old rocks to see how much of the substance has decayed, it's very simple to calculate the age of the rock. And the oldest rocks date to ~4.6 billion years ago.
couldn't be wronger. That's the way creationists try to show the earth is young: by carbon dating stones, which of course gives arbitrary results, because "there's no f**ng carbon in it" (copyright potholer54 ;-) ). It only works for things that lived and breathed air in the last 50.000 years (does NOT work for aquatic life). More info there: /watch?v=QbvMB57evy4
Btw. for stones you use potassiumargon dating (among others).
There are 1.21 Niggawatts of energy at the Apollo theater.
ClamCrunchy 3 weeks ago
Aeon?
giftlftr2385 1 month ago
me-gay-ear
MrJarth 1 month ago
human cant invision what a giga year is ? hell no we cant even invion what a year is simply because years mean different to us at different ages like im 14 a year is 1/14 of my like for a two year old a year is 1/2 of his life and for an 80 year old 1/80th so we dont have a standard unit of feeling (if u know what i mean) for a year lol its incredible how dont even think about this stuff
THEGAMINGRULER 3 months ago
kilayear magayear gigayear tarayear
husnainanwaar1992 3 months ago
in spanish a billion are one million of millons, and a trillion are 1 million of million of millions, so for the americans a billion are one thousend millions and 1 million of milions are a trillion... lets stick to the latin and all that giga stuff ....
omnipotente666 5 months ago
1.21 GIGAWATTS!
Tridecalogism 7 months ago
As geologists we tend to use Ga or Ma (anum instead of year). But that did confuse my third year physics prof. when I used it initially :P
CuanL 7 months ago
well, actually I don't get what is so special about a Gyr. Because it's just 10^9 years, it's like 10^12 Byte or Tera Byte. Even if you say Giga year, it is sill not easycomparable. PS: I'm 0.678 Gsec old.
Blacksun777 8 months ago
@Blacksun777 Think of it this way: Imagine you're going out and waiting for someone and he/she is late. Waiting for an hour seems very tedious and it seems like an eternity right? Now imagine waiting for a Gyr...
Yeah.
Metallosaurus 8 months ago
so that makes me 0.000000029 Gyr :) i feel damn young now :)
HomeDistiller 10 months ago
Preeetty sure the snail would have died first :P
madzyadzy07 10 months ago
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how these stupid knows how old is universal only imaginations idiots even if some
bring week old shit infront of them and ask them how old it there answer will be the
same about million year old than other will jump no 2 million...hahahhahah
strangerlover11 1 year ago
@strangerlover11
What?
TheRimDoctor 10 months ago
@TheRimDoctor
Described my thoughts exactly.
Spoookyfred 10 months ago
So we haven't even reached a single "Tera Year" lol
bogieman987 1 year ago
If the sun lasts for 10 gyr, and the earth is 5 gyr old, that means the earth is now middle-aged.
Is humanity just the earth's mid-life crisis?
Mojosbigstick 1 year ago 5
Near the end, at 3:50- 3:54 the guy says that a Megayear is 10 to the 6. You might want to put an annotation to clear it up that that means 10^6 and not 10x10^6, because that's a difference of 9 Megayears and I know many people who instead of saying, "Times ten to the x" will just say "[number] to the x" but mean "ten to the x". Just don't want anyone to be confused, even though it's right there :P
tehinCOREuptable 1 year ago
if ive worked this out correctly, a gigayear is worth 36535000000000000000 days
if you want to check:
1billion x 0.75 to get all the non-leap years. that times by 365
+
1 billion x0.25 for all theleap years, that times by 366
if i am wrong please give me the correct equation
SOLUuser1010 1 year ago
@kristijanadrian Er? Only metres? Not quite. The choice of units depends on the application. When measuring distances within the (or rather any) solar system you would use astronomical units, and outside the solar system you would use parsecs; metres would be a pretty poor choice in both cases.
Direkin 1 year ago
The guy at 1:06 talks like Kurt from Glee.
NoHanguk 1 year ago
ok so when you say year are you referring to the 365Day Year we experience on earth or another type of year. Since we are talking about the universe and Time through out the universe isn't defined the same way. I mean I get what is being said, a gigayear is a long time but when you think of time we just associate it with the time we experience on earth, but Time in the universe is vastly different in the context of time.
iSynOSX 1 year ago
@iSynOSX True to some degree, but since we experience time only here on Earth, we have no other frame of reference to use.
Direkin 1 year ago
When the snail finishes it's going to be pretty pissed off with the scientists.
jacksawild 1 year ago
so it takes a snail 100 years to go around once?
ovio707 1 year ago
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13.7 gigayears. Not 13.8 or a nice round 14 ... precisely 13.7 gigayears.
Believe it! They're scientists.
ironclad452 1 year ago
I'm half a Gigasecond old
3doog 1 year ago
Giga thumbs up
culwin 1 year ago 152
@culwin what a nerdy comment no offence.
747Jamesbond 10 months ago
do astronomers use mega and tera years?
4jonah 1 year ago
@4jonah
never mind
4jonah 1 year ago
@4jonah Megayears, yes. Terayears, they may very occasionally use when talking about the future of the Universe - remember the Universe is only 13.7 Gigayears old, so...
FeynmanMH42 1 year ago
@FeynmanMH42 like my hard drive its one terabyte :)
fugehdehyou 1 year ago
5 *
oh wait, lets just say i liked it
avecesdeunhilo 1 year ago 2
I thought a billion was a million million not a thousand million?
SubduedToSilence 1 year ago
@SubduedToSilence
That's exactly why there are these prefixes. A billion is different in different languages, giga is not.
(American) English counts: million -> billion -> trillion... for every x1000
German (as does French) has Million -> Milliarde -> Billion -> Billiarde -> Trillion. So a "Billion" in german is a trillion in english (which causes many errors in news and even popular science mags).
British English has afaik (I'm not a native speaker) both, but mostly uses the AE meanings.
superdau 1 year ago 39
Yes, and in Russian it's Million -> Milliarde -> Billion -> Trillion. "Billiarde" means "pool table."
Kurtlane 1 year ago
@superdau they mostly use the american usage. not because our version is "superior" or anything, but just for standardization it makes sense to go with what more people are using (when there isn't any real difference, anyway)
gfdriver 8 months ago
@superdau So, in Japanese that would translate to Godzillion years, Ain't ? ;)
DeRex9 1 month ago
@superdau We do that in Danish too (talking about German and French). It's really quite confusing sometimes when watching videos like these (or even reading it on paper), because you immediately think, "Billion, that's 10^12," which is what a billion would be in Danish. Honestly, I think the American approach makes the most sense, especially in terms of consistency and understanding. I wish we used that as well. I do think it's very good we have the prefixes, though. Much easier to understand.
DannyNHansen 3 weeks ago
@SubduedToSilence no mate, thats a trillion i think
JustJobeMY 1 year ago
i presume supersdau clarified?
MaBuSt 1 year ago
It seems like the wrong unit if your figures are more precise - I get the sense that with "only" a max of 14, you'd spill down into points and point zeros of a giga year a lot, almost begging to use hundreds and tens of mega years.
Is there a unit that is to mega and giga, what centi is to milli and meter?
(BTW it might just be me but the internal rhyme and alliterative feature in that last sentence almost seems to beg to start a dirty poem about planks(') lengths...;)
airihi 1 year ago
That's not really natural units is it?
Why don't you measure in Hubble times?
ASKaPHYSICIST 1 year ago
We should just use scientific prefixes when talking about money. Then maybe we'd see that numbers relating to the economy are not astronomically high, but rather numbers in astronomy are economically high.
zageiger 1 year ago
I always give my age in milliseconds what's wrong with that!?!? :/
clarkcolt45 1 year ago
Far off=Gigalightyear
Films4You 1 year ago 2
I heard someone say once that human perspective is logarithmically and chronologically equidistant from the micro and macro scales. Quite a neat way of looking at things...
ImposingSumo 1 year ago 2
1,21 gigayear?
paronfisk 1 year ago
universe is as old as time, it just gets infinatly bigger so looking back it gets inversely infinately smaller
T1carus 1 year ago
like i said, this is pure cracker bizness
henry7515 1 year ago
A snail could never live that long! And would have a very sore foot afterwards! lol
glenwoofit 1 year ago
@glenwoofit it doesn't have feet either ;)
Sutskoen 1 year ago
@glenwoofit Very funny, poor snail, is it Edible after this.
Films4You 1 year ago
I don't understand why giga is easier to comprehend than billion.
Seems a bit silly to me.
LordNapalm 1 year ago
@LordNapalm It's not easier to understand...it's just easier to write. :-P You know about metric units and scientific notation don't you? Well it's the same idea.
andy16666 1 year ago
@andy16666 If it's just about being easier to write.. then you should just use notation.. or maybe "B" for billion.
LordNapalm 1 year ago
@LordNapalm
Since you're writing here, you're using a computer. A computer which likely has gigabytes of RAM, terabytes of harddisk space, is connected to the net with a megabit/s connection. You take your photos with a megapixel camera with milliseconds exposure time. You're using it all the time already.
btw. in many languages (e.g. german and french) a "billion" is actually an english trillion, which leads to many mistranslations. "giga" is unambiguous.
polyatheist 1 year ago
@LordNapalm The notation is G, like gigabyte, or gigameter or gigalitre. It's a standard prefix that most of the English speaking world learns in elementary school. I have no idea why you wouldn't already be familiar with it, unless maybe you're American or you dropped out in grade 3.
andy16666 1 year ago
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LinkStrikesBack 1 year ago
@LordNapalm Why use B for billion, B has several other connotations in physics, including being the symbol for several different units, with at least two of them being important in astronomy, when we have a complete set of universally understood (by physicists and other scientists anyway) set of standard form prefixes that are simpler to use, here being Gigayears (Actually scientifically known as a Giga annum) or Ga?
Ga being the notation of gigaannum, of course.
LinkStrikesBack 1 year ago
@LordNapalm
Not everyone speaks english or understands the b standing for billion. Giga is a universally recognized prefix for 10^9
K2Tanner 1 year ago
I cannot conceive of these lengths of time... which may explain why creationists mock evolution. They do not understand how much time is involved in going from a protocell to a human being.
Kargoneth 1 year ago
@Kargoneth in a creation vs evolution argument I like to extrapolate the available evolutionary time to generations of life or amount of time the DNA has regenerated. With that, you get a much bigger number with trillions of generations and trillions of mutation and natural selection instances since the first protocells to human.
jnthnbush 1 year ago
@jnthnbush Interesting thought. I may have to try that when other methods fail.
Kargoneth 1 year ago
829,724,876 seconds and counting
lejink 1 year ago
Units that don't appear in daily life are a funny thing. One of my hobbies is electronics, where things can happen on the scale of nanoseconds. After programming microcontrollers with this scale in mind even microseconds start to feel long! Seems to work the other way round, too. What's a million years? Nothing!
The same happens with pressure and temperature: once you dealt with pressures lower than on Pluto and measure temperature in Kelvin only, you get a whole new perspective of nature!
polyatheist 1 year ago
what a coincidence, the "10 giga yeay simulation" on the right was posted exacty 1 year ago, on the 19th of April 2009....
TeoTheAwesome 1 year ago
1billion years is way to big for me to comprehend :P
how do we know how old the earth is?
Armzan 1 year ago
@Armzan
We know how old the earth is basically because of radiometric dating. Certain isotopes decay at known rates so if we look at old rocks to see how much of the substance has decayed, it's very simple to calculate the age of the rock. And the oldest rocks date to ~4.6 billion years ago.
Cheers
lynchmobb2000 1 year ago
@lynchmobb2000 sounds confusing :)
Armzan 1 year ago
@Armzan carbon dating
krypekeeper 1 year ago
@krypekeeper
couldn't be wronger. That's the way creationists try to show the earth is young: by carbon dating stones, which of course gives arbitrary results, because "there's no f**ng carbon in it" (copyright potholer54 ;-) ). It only works for things that lived and breathed air in the last 50.000 years (does NOT work for aquatic life). More info there: /watch?v=QbvMB57evy4
Btw. for stones you use potassiumargon dating (among others).
polyatheist 1 year ago
@polyatheist are u one of those people who think the earth is 6,000 years old?
krypekeeper 1 year ago
@krypekeeper
Have you read my comment? I don't know how you could come to this conclusion...
polyatheist 1 year ago
interesting
boombruv 1 year ago