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  • This video is Intense... This guy owns at that stuff man!

  • yep...I'll be using the ole' shiner technique with my next poker game with the gang...

  • I watch gps everyday, and its makes me sad, i sit down and practice about 8 hours a day and i know i will never be as good as him. my life is worthless.

  • @TheBradTobin believe me, you will... how do you think he became this good? just read every book you find, watch every dvd you see, and practice, practice, practice... when I started with the center deal, I thought that I'll never master it... After 10 months I can deal pretty good centers..

  • Genius.

  • How do you protect against the Greek Deal? (Second Deal from the bottom of the deck)

  • @bionicleselfmocist Use a plastic card

  • @serratop Very easy to deal second from the bottom, rendering a plastic card literally redundant to a skilled card sharp

  • @bionicleselfmocist look for the sidejogging of the cut card. or a joker, whatever you use. when I deal greeks, I have to live with sidejogging the bottom card, and it goes unnoticed. just look better at the deck. if the bottom card is kicked off from the deck, it's a greek deal

  • where did this video come from?

  • Darwin Ortiz and Andrew Wimhurst have watched this video 12 times.

  • @krisknave

    Actually, this is my second time watching this video. But since I know Steve I have seen this stuff in person and don't habitually look for his stuff on Youtube. I came to this link by accident. He's great, and I can understand your admiration.

    The videos I search for on Youtube are usually blues harp videos. So now you know.

    Best

    Andrew

  • @Ev630

    It was a joke about the dislikes at the time (5 months ago) - uncharacteristic of me, I think I was drunk at the time. Nothing ever changes though, despite what you like to think you are still the easiest person to wind up ever, always bite, never able resist a response.

  • @krisknave

    Is that a fact? Clever response. I can't respond to that without proving you right. Well done.

  • Yes, but there is the greek deal that can deal from the 2 to last card

  • By the way there is ONE thing that AMAZES me about Darwin , his riffle stacking is just wait a second .... Legendary

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  • I am just having a hilarious time with all you people talking about Darwin Ortiz being better than Steve Forte , when it comes down to knowledge about the crooked gambling world Darwin is amazing but come on , lets face it , he can demonstrate all of the moves , he cannot actually do them in the same smooth , clean manner that steve does. It´s just pure facts , watch Darwin Ortiz´s " On card cheating and then go watch Gambling protection series , they´ll speak up for themseves !!

  • @elcartomago Right on the money with that one.

  • @elcartomago I disagree I think the Best Ultimate over anyone the Greatest Card Guy is Darwin Ortiz as he's ALSO a Magician too. His Scams book (Which you learn how the term "Mark" came about) is great. Steve Forte is 3rd because Richard Turner kicks butt literally. OMG he is so good and is legally blind. I mean Bicycle even has him on standby as a car weigher I believe. He can od a TABLES Riffle shuffle. Yes Andrew is good as well as Swain who to me has the best pass ever and Carpenter.

  • @Eddini 40 is the best. As I'm aware, Ortiz and Turner cannot riffle cull. Ortiz can do all these moves, but not with the same elegancy. I have the most of his work. You see, check Ortiz's Darwin Ortiz on card sheating DVD, and Steve forte's, and then decide.

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  • 3:50 is like music in my ears

  • Steve Forte is the God of Gamblers.... no one is near him....

  • O MY GOD ANYONE WHO THINKS DARWIN ORTIZ IS BETTER THAN STEVE FORTE REALLY HAS NO CLUE ABOUT THE WORLD OF CARD MECHANICS. DARWIN ORTIZ IS GREAT BUT STEVE FORTE IS FAR FAR FAR FAR MORE SUPERIOR. I think Darwin Ortiz would admit that himself.

  • First time I see Forte do a Zarrow shuffle. It looked great, of course :)

  • the bottom deal can be prevented with that plastic card, but that why there s the greek deal

  • @TheGonzaloMagic your chances of encountering someone who can greek deal are very slim, so you're pretty safe with the plastic card

  • WOAH, he did Allan Ackermans Slip shod, never notice that before.

  • @TheBradTobin slip shod?

  • 5 stars

    i wouldnt play poker with this guy :D

  • this is not my forte

  • awesome!

  • When you burn the card you can just second deal :)

  • Darwin Ortiz !

  • Dai vernon, my prefesor R.I.P

  • @TheBradTobin "... forte is better than him, dai vernon, Charlie Miller, and Ed Marlow" That's interesting, I didn't expect that, where? I'm sure many things have been said about Darwin Ortiz that you haven't mentioned. I find Darwin's handling very good. He strips out when the cards are sticking out only half the border width. His seconds and bottoms are very good. Especially his studs.

    Btw, I subbed to you. I like your videos :)

  • was that a zarrow at 2.20?

  • cut at 7:26! nice, got to learn me that! name, anyone?

  • Easily the greatest living and possibly the best ever. in some respects, forte is possibly better than vernon. he performs every technique flawlessly. he has the best seconds, centres and bottoms. i hope that i achieve even a tenth of his skill in the future.

  • @DeckDudes I agree but you can tell forte and vernon have the same thought process and obsession with naturalness, look at the way he squares the cards in two pushes instead of 3 or 4 after the table riffle, thats all lbuilt in, those minor details, his handling of everything looks like butter, its beautiful.

  • Anyone who thinks Darwin is better than Steve is either out of thier F%$#*@G minds or Darwin's mom. Steve is the best in the world PERIOD!

  • @goetzfan god thank you somone needed to say it.

  • @goetzfan Darwin and Steve are both amazing, and one of the best in the world, I don`t think there is one best in the world, one might be better at some things, and the other at others. People that studied more of steve`s work might say that he is better, and people that studied more of Darwin`s work might say that he is better. Steve Forte, Darwin Ortiz, Richard Turner. Ricky Jay (and of course others), in my opinion are some of the best living card men alive.

  • @RZCardMagic Richard Turner openly admits that steve forte is better than him, dai vernon, Charlie Miller, and Ed Marlow. In an interview with bill malone done by magic newswire, he makes it very clear that steve forte was much better at sleight of hand than Ed Marlow or anyone he has ever seen.Ive studied both of darwins and fortes work and darwin ortiz has terrible handling for pushthroughs, seconds, bottoms, false strip cuts...Everything darwin does looks unnatural,he is agreat performer thou

  • 1.50-2.06 is smart but it won't help if you or someone else playing knows how to execute the greek deal

  • but your chances of running into someone who can greek deal are very slim. So you're pretty safe when it comes to that issue :)

  • steve forte is definitely NOT better than darwin ortiz, in any way, as you see the last shuffles where he says card shark moves, he just makes a simple false cut and after that he just short shuffles untill he makes a simple false cut again. darwin ortiz is the master.

  • @12marije3 I would think even Darwin himself would admit that Forte is better than he in many respects.

  • @12marije3 whats your point by pointin out hes using simple moves in this vid, you obviously have not seen the gambling protection severies where he does table farros, riffle stackings, pushthroughs, and so on. plus darwins bottoms are shit, way to much finger flash, he pushthroughs are shit, to much slow down when hes doing the pushthrouch, his false running cuts are shit. what is it you like about ortiz.

  • @12marije3 you clearly have no clue of what steve forte is capable of with a deck of cards. i suggest watching his gambling protection series. Darwin Ortiz is good but Steve Forte is A LOT better than him in gambling sleights. Actually Steve Forte is better than ANYONE in gambling sleights. kthanksbye

  • 7:15 i wanna make my cards fart!!!!!

  • The Shiner! FTW!!

  • where can i get that ring

  • Go to

    great-tutorials%jimdo% com

    for Poker and other tutorials!

  • oh my god that was so hot when he controled that top stock

  • Thanks for the In-site, Cheers

  • If someone is good enough to cheat and get away with it, good for him, but for those that get caught usually die or get really fcked up.  I am a card magician and can do a lot of sleight of hand and false shuffles, but never in my life would i ever attempt in an actual game. One is I play w friends and its just not cool and the other is that if I ever got caught, dont what kind of people u play with, but I would end up dead.

  • @Eddini - With all due respect to Mr Ortiz, Steve Forte leaves not only him but the rest of the us a LONG way behind!

  • u must be a good cheater...

  • 7:14 sounds like he farted

  • @SasukesMagic LOOOOOOOL

  • Very interesting and informative video.

  • Under Darwin Ortiz this guy is Top Notch 5 Stars.

  • 5:40 what the name of this cards?? please answer, and where i find this shainer?

  • @zittotu96  those are the bee playing cards but the steamboat are better...the bee are so suspicious.

  • @palas8 yes i know,they are the bicycle bee but a mean the card at 5:40

  • @zittotu96 woww i dont know...they seems to be plastic coated

  • @zittotu96 They look like Fournier plastic cards or something like that. Not sure anyway^^

  • @zittotu96 They look like Copag plastic cards, not sure anyway.

  • i wont play poker with that guy

  • why not second deal the burn card ? ;D

  • by the way thanksm for the video i would never have thought they would be able to control all 52 cards of the deck

  • i think controlling all 52 is easier than controlling 1 in a certain location.

  • whats the name of this guy in the video?

  • Steve Forte is his name.

  • thanks for the tip... is there anyway do find out if the cards are marked wich a substance you cant see?? by the way were can you buy that shiner ;)

  • 1:50 - 2:05

    A great counter-measure to that is the Greek Deal.

  • hey what the hell was that device he hade oon ,min 5.13 what was that

  • How did he do the 52card thing at 2:17 ?!?! he riffled it... baffled

  • of course he riffled it, but did he shuffled it too? ;) Look up "truffle shuffle" or "manfred shuffle"...those are known as the most deceptive false riffle shuffles of today!

  • finaly a good video. ive been watching craoy vids al day long this is great

  • With the plastic card, they could Greek deal

  • where can i buy a deck like that

  • i get mine in mail for free like 1 time every year

  • "the shiner" was new to me:)

  • Steve Forte is the greatest.. i love how he handles the cards.. he really is the best in the whole world.

  • nop the best is ricky jay

  • :| have you seen Ricky Jay ever performing center deals?

  • yeah even live way??

  • ohhh.. so that`s the reason why you like Ricky Jay best.. because i`ve seen him live.. pretty fair reason.. but still.. Steve Forte is the best. search on youtube for "Steve Forte" and watch the first 2 videos.

  • no i havent seem him i vil :D

  • steve forte

  • @smoofssmoofs

    Ricky Jay beats them all

  • @smoofssmoofs Ricky Jay is the best but Steve Forte is a master.

  • @Frilleon ricky jay is the best performer ever but steve forte is far better in sleight of hand. He can literally do any type of cheat with a deck of cards. Nonetheless, I still prefer Ricky Jay as a performer. Steve Forte is just a master card cheat.

  • Simple rule, avoid private games and personal bets. Play poker, make sports bets and all other casino wagers at a Casino. There are way too may reasons to explain why not to make personal bets and play at private games.

  • Or, just gather some friends and play using chips bought from kmart or another store. Without using real money. fun and no one loses anything :)

  • omg the shiner is awesome. brb making mirror ring

  • Thanx for teaching how the cheat

    I use to get social security

    ...now I got both social security and I cheat old ladies at a poker game in my town

    great video

    5 stars!

  • exellent video. 5 stars. thankyou very much

  • the shiner is some sick shit....

  • Steve Forte looks a lot like Grissom from CSI Las Vegas!!!

    Maybe's the same person doing this as a part-time job XD

  • steve is awesome.. thanks 4 the tips

  • at 1:47 that red plastic card can protect you from bottom deals, but it can't protect you from greek deals

  • yes but it does make it harder to do a greek deal

  • post some tutorials lol!

  • haha lol!

    shut up...

  • you're retarded he dealt the rest of the cards

  • just watch the video again and you will notice the reason for this...

  • Man! I would not want to play against this guy.

  • Steve Forte is the best!

  • @lhocus not better than darwin ortiz

  • @elprrrrr5 you must not have seen much of steves work if you think darwin ortiz could hold a candle to this guy. dont get me wrong darwin is great.

  • Very nice video. I like all the tips given. However (as stated before) the Greek Deal can still cancel out the indifferent card placed at the bottom of the deck for the bottom deal. Still, very good tips.

  • what if he burns the card underneath? :P

  • ur amazing 5stars :D:D

  • NIce !

  • wery good video 5 stars

  • I go those same cards... there shit...

  • where?

  • you can get them all over the internet. Ebay. amazon. it's a normal bee deck they're really good ; D

  • Sorry, I was actually being really annoying. I was making an incredibly obscure reference to LaughOutProduction's misuse of the word 'there' when he meant 'they're'. I realise that it wasn't funny and I'll just shut up now.

    Bees are quality though.

  • gave me a chuckle... thanks

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  • maybe

  • is this complete video? or is there a DVD or something? can anyone tell me the name if there is?

  • @genuisjas87:

    This video was a bonus in a DVD related to poker, i forgot, but the idea that its not a gambling expose DVD or anything of this nature.

  • and you should do the same thing on ur private game! LOL!

  • im not telling you wher im from but can u tell me wher to get it. a staue town possibly a website

  • 7:15 sounds like a fart lmao... but nice vid

  • lol

  • GREAT

  • like this guy

  • you are rly good m8... but be warned.. my neighboar was card shufler in local casino and he got shot... :(

  • he's a god

  • your god dude..

  • you should check out mzapach 's videos

  • please reply: Where did you get the thing that delived the card and how much was it?? And where do you get the shiner Once again how much?

    Btw nice cheats and i wont use the card hander thingy i is just curios And ty for telling me cheats cuz i like to play poker.

  • from where are you???

    i can get any cheat cards you want.

  • In Vegas i did the same thing and didn't get caught!!!LOL!!!Woulden't that be cool though!!

  • this is a very interesting vid! 5/5

  • plastic card doesn't protect from bottom dealing, Darvin Ortiz clearly shows on one of his dvd that he can still deal with plastic card on the bottom

  • haha not that many that can do that, I can however but as I said, not many who can. Bottom dealing itself is difficult but greek dealing is a lot more difficult.

  • i know its always ways to get around it but i helps alot since its harder many mechanics dont master it. but your right

  • But even if they can do the greek deal. Cutting straight to the plastic card means the cheat can't do a shift. The only way to beat the cut would be a crimp... And without a partner it's only luck.

  • can you tell me where i ca learn the greek deal please?

  • maybe theory11?

    It's a really tough move...

  • ?

    what you want?

  • I mean the greek deal...

    sorry...

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  • :D very cool vid

  • One of them being Steve Forte, the man in this video! He has written a book about protecting yourself in a card game and is a casino consultant and has done work against this type of thing, but it doesn't seems so any more. Full story at magicnewswire d o t c o m

  • Four men were indicted today on charges that they planned to use surveillance equipment and computers to steal tens of thousands of dollars from a high-roller player in various private games hosted in a hotel room at the Borgata Hotel, Casino and Spa in Atlantic City.

  • is this steve forte???

  • yep

  • yea

  • How do you do that false shuffle???

  • even that (he calls it) scramble can be manipulated to a point where no card changes place

  • Lennart Green teaches a similar looking move in his Classic Green series. Scrambled cards, yet not one changes place.

  • I got my methods from sal piacentes dvd "poker".

    he teaches one method to retain either top or bottom stock and one