Randolph Nesse Interview (4/5) - Richard Dawkins

[deathorb]

instead of designed, FORMED.

[ThePhil909]

omg no good at maths but always have loved it, i think its the key to everything!

[DementedScrew]

Very suprised that they have not talked about Epi-Genetic Principle O_O

[hinatah89]

I wish I was this skeleton, so that I would have listened to this interview.

[derman077]

Who was the underbite guy in the middle?

[Imphipis]

Im not gay, but Im sexually attracted to this guys brain!

[Mider999]

All my doctor does is give me pills i dont know what symptoms his patients have but mine are pretty nasty

[kotkee]

Didnt they answered the question.. Whats the meaning of life? Reproduction

[BlckSbthMan]

God does exist, his name is Randolph Nesse. Damn interesting stuff.

[FunnyLittleChap]

@BlckSbthMan No, that is a man, you vile, disgusting piece of shit - the true God is the God of scripture, you stupid motherfucker.

[BlckSbthMan]

@FunnyLittleChap Do you talk to yourself in prayer with that mouth?

[sonykroket]

@FunnyLittleChap

STFU preaching knucklehead

[EedDeryi]

I could listen to this Randolph guy all day :D

[insainbassist]

lol "walking dustbin" I love Dawkins.

[TheBiddleMan]

Whenever I watch videos like this, I feel empowered to live in such an age, although sometimes a bit angry that people oppose thinkers such as Dawkins and Nesse. A society run by this sort of thinking would truly be amazing, and it's ourselves that are holding us buck. Selfish, childish religion, and the thinking it entails must be the most damaging force to our future society.

[nonphixional1]

without fearful anxieties we would die multiple times throughout the day. anxiety can be advantageous it has kept us on our toes making us more successful and competitive.

[jjvphilosopher]

This is a very interesting conversation, I love the part about why humans have anxiety it does make you see it in a very different way.

[Uberboy07]

"we think the body was shaped for health - & of course it was not shaped for health it was shaped for maxium reproduction & this explains a lot".

I wonder if this part of natural selection explains why men don't last as long as women in bed. My theory has been that our ancestors wanted to mate as quickly as they could to avoid becoming an easy lunch. For what ever reason i think it's time for NS to realise that men would prefer a diff. trade off. xD

P.s. I love they way the vids end - 8:57 lol

[streetfightsecrets]

1.06 "the WHO data shows that especially for women of reproductive years in modern countries more than half of all the medical disability and early death is from mental problems mainly depression and anxiety disorders" amazing interview, thanks for posting

[nmatters]

This interview is just fantastic. Love it!

[Houdinitreehouse]

This is a really really great interview :)

[sfmike20]

If the religious viewpoint was never the dominant one, and people asked these evolutionary questions a long time ago, we would probably have some genetic procedure that would allow us to live to 300 by now. A very insightful interview, thanks for posting.

[TudiRad]

How many of your grandparents died before reproducing? :) This is so brilliant.

[sewpr512]

I <3 the Heart

[adamscott]

That's the problem with anxiety in modern humans, it's developed from being a useful instinct in primordial man to something which now often manifests via neuroses in social contexts for example as opposed to being a sole survival instinct like to give a modern example when driving a car where there are oncoming vehicles on the other side of the road for instance

[bouiglob]

I must send this video to creationists to see what they will think.

[lalomania1]

GENIOUS!

[planetar4564]

This is so great! Thanks!

[ryko26]

Fantastic. Thanks so much for posting this. One of the most interesting things I've ever listened to.

[TheRegulator81]

Dawkins is a square.

[TheEVILutionist]

Yes because it's really important to be cool when you are a Evolutionary biologist :P

[TheRegulator81]

The difference between Tommy Lee Jones and Will Smith is Will Smith makes it look good.

[mowgli123456789]

i have suffered with panic attacks for years. this is one of the most helpfull and interesting things i have ever seen. thanks for posting! x

[xRobelax]

...If people start reproducing later in life, then genes which allow people to live longer will be passed on? Say like people reproducing on average when they are 40 and then shifted to...I guess it's limited by meno-pause...

[sam51092]

Menopause isn't necessarily an obstacle. if everyone only started reproducing at 40, then those who got menopause later than others would have more offspring, raising the frequency of late-menopause genes in the gene pool. Then raise the reproduction age to 45, repeat, then raise it to 50, repeat, and so on and so forth. This pushes the menopause age back and back while passing on the genes for living longer and longer. In theory, you could extend the average life-expectancy indefinitely.

[PDelta41]

@xRobelax Simple accidents make that unlikely. That and younger people are much more likely to make babies accidentally that people in their 30s or 40s, thus a large majority of babies are concieved in the teens or twenties.

[sulthus]

enlightning

[Shigren]

wow! this portion of the interview makes me wonder how much more psychiatrists could improve if they do what doctor Nesse has and incorporate evolution into psychology.

Are there any psych majors out there that can attest to the amount of information used from evolutionary theory in psychiatrics?

[krzw92]

Fuckin awesome interview

[thadeusmac]

The Chicken.

And by the way, have you noticed there are more Male chefs than Female?

[martybow1]

one word (probably mispelt)

EUGENICS!!!!!!!!! wooop! lol

[jtoddguelph]

dumb ass

[martybow1]

I am no such thing

[effyleven]

Did Randolf really mean to suggest you can't have a car that does 1000 kilometres to a tank? My car does, at least when driven gently. And it is an OLD car. It is a Peugeot 405 Estate Deisal... nothing hi-tec.

[Eternaldream00]

Hehe good for you but that was actually just a metaphor explaining trade offs^^

[effyleven]

Yeah yeah, I did get the trade-offs point point. I was just surprised at the nature of the error... you know, MATHS.. when these guys are so very detirmined to be strictly scientific.... (just a little ironic, I'm thinking)

[monkeybudge]

Americans dont drive Diesel Peugeots . Anyway , dont be so pedantic . It was a passing comment . You got the idea

[effyleven]

The idea I get is that if conceptualisations are to be supported by facts, you gotta make sure your facts are REAL!

Meaning....

If Nesse thought fuel consumption was worth mentioning as an example, I'm certainly justified in pointing out it isn't an accurate example in wider terms than those bounded by narrow "American" perceptions.

Or, put another way, part of the world's problems are caused by Americans not wishing to drive modest diesel motor cars that yield 1000km to the tankful.

[acceptanceisbliss]

just add another stinkin 0 to the 1000, i think he just made the mistake in talking. His point is still valid, you can't have improvement/perfection without high cost!

[effyleven]

Randolph Ness is a doctor [MD] and should be very aware of how misplacing decimal points is one of the commonest causes of accidental drug overdose ... for this reason his error is not just "another stinkin' zero" as you put it.

[baze128]

Until the evidence suggests otherwise, it's best to stick with the best explanation we have and then move on :) It's not a big deal. It's not like these guys need to distort their perception of reality to match particular theory or, say, book.

[ulegee]

So what is your alternative?

[ananiasacts]

Doctors should begin by asking their patients whether they were designed by god or natural selection. If they say they evolved, then begin discussing evolutionary medicine with them and proceed in the usual way.

Otherwise the doctor should put away their medical equipment and begin mixing clay to match the patient's skin color until asked what they're doing by the patient. At which point they should explain that they're using the medical procedure described in Genesis.

[Cougar139tweak]

@ananiasacts Just perfect :)

[FunnyLittleChap]

@ananiasacts do not misrepresent the bible, you disgustingly vile cunt.

[Quinzio]

Mr. Nesse is a very very intelligent and kind person.

[lancedboyle]

what is a chinman?a christian concept?

[IloveJesusYesId0]

It's a skeleton with a hilariously large example of a chin..

An ancestor of Jay Leno.. :D

[InfiniteAnvil]

I'm getting a "We're sorry, this video is no longer available" message. Yes, I tried refreshing.

[InfiniteAnvil]

Aaand though I tried for five minutes, it worked the very next time. Nvm.

[holydave]

This guy Nesse is brilliant, the type of guy who'd be your favourite lecturer I think. Absolutely fascinating interview.

[martybow1]

AMEN!!! Wooop

[IloveJesusYesId0]

The skeleton is Chinman

[vfursov]

Who is there third one between them? Is it Charles Darwin?

[KeybdFlyer]

We all, (Americans especially) need to realise something. Pain is the body's way of telling you something's wrong. Taking a painkiller will stop you feeling the pain, but it puts nothing right. You need to stop sitting awkwardly, or eat less to avoid indigestion etc. Taking a drug co.'s latest "cure" does little more (try actually listening to their ads) than relieve a symptom. Got a URI? You NEED to cough. Overweight? A pill won't help much, but exercise and a change of diet will. etc

[IloveJesusYesId0]

YOu know what pisses me off rich people are gonna end up living forever one day and poor people are gonna get f*cked probably..

[rubenkistemaker]

are you allowed to say those words from your Jesus?

[IloveJesusYesId0]

I just love Jesus, he isn't mine.. If he exists...

[ananiasacts]

And that's the good part of god's plan.

[blackcrazydog]

Greatness!

[phelius]

Like the Galopagos Tortoise's shell. Nothing random about that mutation.

[martybow1]

Alll mutations are random...

[nosson77]

evolutionary biology is great. you can just make up reasons for why things and be confident that no one will prove you wrong,

[InReasonWeTrust]

You don't understand science.

[nosson77]

evolution is not a hard science

some of it makes sense, some of it doesn't, and some is just plain lunacy,

that's why the best scientists don't bother with it,

like the best doctors, mathematicians, physicists, professionals in information theory etc. just don't take it seriously

[phelius]

creationism is not a hard science

none of it makes sense, most of it doesn't, and most is just plain lunacy,

that's why the best scientists don't bother with it,

like the best doctors, mathematicians, physicists, professionals in information theory etc. just don't take it seriously

[nosson77]

if bible creationism is a nice ferry tale

then evolution from random mutations is a horror movie

and i think that is a good description for both of them

[phelius]

That horror movie is the reality we live. That's a terrible outlook on life though. Some mutations are random, most are not.

[nosson77]

"most are not"

what do you mean most mutaions are not random. you dont beleive random mutations are the cause for most new genetic code?

[NoSz4]

@phelius - ALL mutations are random, guided by an nonrandom process known as natural selection.

[irishmauddib]

"then evolution from random mutations is a horror movie"

Things are not more or less true because you find them more or less pleasant.

[SpanishForkOutcast]

You mean "fairy" tale. A "ferry" tale would be about a boat.

[TDarkHunt]

False, evolution IS hard science.

[nosson77]

"Evolution" is not even a properly defined term (among evolutionist) never mind a science

[clearvision12]

nosson77

Listen there are plenty of religious freak sites about. Instead of wasting your time & everybody else's, why don't you go and commune with your fellow zealots and leave this adult thread to adults?

[fctchk]

Thanks for the nosense77 smackdown - it's a vile job but somebody has to do it.

[clearvision12]

fctchk

Ha! Ha! Peace kiddo!

[irishmauddib]

"some of it makes sense, some of it doesn't, and some is just plain lunacy"

This is the way with all of science. a lot of science and maths goes against what we consider "common sense". This doesnt mean its more or less wrong, it means that common sense is not the useful tool you think it is.

[irishmauddib]

"that's why the best scientists don't bother with it"

Names evidence and citations please.

[vysehrad]

I think this is my favorite of these series of videos of Dawkins' interviews.

[DrMikero]

Very empowering stuff!

[chick5581]

Nice video! I like these kinds of videos. They're actually good and solid videos that desrve a spot on youtube. haha!

[tricke101]

Thank god for Atheism : )

[scorchiooo]

Two very eloquent individuals discussing a fascinating topic. YouTube doesn't get any better than this.

[Megoolies]

Thank god, sorry forget the last bit force of habit!

thanks to Darwin, Dr Dawkins and Dr Nasse for sharing their wonderful wisdom with the rest of us. I take my hat off to you gentlemen. Bravo!!

[infiniteusername]

I did learn alot thanks!

[TheCounterweight1]

This is great! Thanks :)

[spotlitkiss]

this is beyond brilliant. hands up who's gonna buy this guy's book!

[AWAKENxEXMORTIS]

*Raises hand*

[boneimre]

It's amazing how simple and straightforward these things are when explained and still I wouldn't have gotten them in a 100 years.

[Mjhavok]

Knocking out a bunch of ageing genes would cause a proliferation of tumours throughout ones body I suspect.

[Clausfarre]

This interview series is just phenomenally interesting. From Derren Brown to Randolph Nesse. Next please!

[Ateapotist]

One of the most interesting interviews so far. Thanks for posting!

[hundingwelser]

great stuff

[waheex]

stunning