I've been doing Muay Thai for quite some times, and there'd be days where we'd do a whole hour of just kicking each other in the legs! So painful! I had bruises all over my legs, and one time I had to call my mom to come get me because I couldn't even walk to my car! LOL still cracks me up thinking about that! My mom was NOT pleased :D
Anyone who's ever taken a low kick (a really good one that lands at that spot right above the knee where the IT band is) knows that there are no words to describe how painful it is!
I hate getting kicked there, you know what sort of kinda not really helps it... I have a foam roller thingy, it's hard to explain but just look it up on youtube. It helps your IT band alot, along with other parts of your body =D Leg kicks still hurt btw... But it helps stretch out your IT band =D
You can get one at Walmart for like $15. I've done martial arts for a while, and sometimes kicking and weird positions with your legs in Jujitsu can hurt your knees. Your IT band's flexability has alot to do with how well your knee is. It helped me so much, I do not know any normal stretches or excersies to help stretch out your IT band, so it's great! Get one! =D
Bas does iit like this but this is only useful if you have good hips. The hips is were all the Torque comes from. And basically the groin in connection with the hips causes it all to stereach like a rubberband thus creating a very torquey kick, but it has to all done perfectly in motion as u can see like a slicing effect as my muay thai coach explains.
lol I remember this fight. Alves owned Kos badly. primarily because Kos was having a "K-1 Matt Hughes" complex for lack of a better term and fancied himself an elite striker just because he has heavy hands. lmfao the joke was on Kos tho, because all he was doing was challenging Alves at his own game and Kos got battered around for three straight rounds.
What I especially like about this, is that he actually jabs to set up the kick. Too few MMA-fighters set up their kicks with jabs, and it's a beautiful thing to see it done right.
@brad12100 ahaha you shittin me? take either a muay thai or kick boxing class and see how much low kick hurts, oh and lets not forget these guys are professional fighters.
All you guys talking about perfect technique (re: talking out of your asses) remember this important fact: all that matters in MMA is EFFECTIVENESS, period. Alves is one of the most effective fighters in the world with his kicks.
Why are u hating on americans , without their entertaiment world would be a boring place ... Ty good old americans for hollywood , ufc and charlie sheen ....
It's true that K1 and Muay Thai isn't big at all in the US, which is a shame, but you could also say the Dutch and Thais can't box or wrestle "for shit". For MMA purposes, boxing and wrestling are more important than kicking anyway.
respect for all fighters, a good low kick indeed, Dutch style, thai do not focus on low kicks, too much injury, they fight weekly ...but who cares a good low kock is a good low kick. These hilarious US commentators bother me.."on the flesh of the leg..", a low kick hits the leg muscle and destabilizes, you can`t train endurance, need to block, also painful btw.
Okay, I thought it was going to be a video of something odd or special that happened, and it's a regular lowkick. I know a proper lowkick is somewhat uncommon among mma fighters, whose kickboxing skills are generally mediocre at best, but still, why not mark this video a little better?
@MatrixMedal2 the only thing i'll respect for taking a beating a damn heavybag. if a man doesn't know how to reduce the amount of damage he receives in a match...shit, man...it's time to taking applications for another job.
if u hit from the side or with a frontkick while the leg is elongated the knee will be totally destroyed
therefor in sport like ufc and even in muay thai it is forbidden to attack the knee like u would do in selfdefence systems like krav maga which is no sport but total destruction of ur opponent
UFC is soo funny. They talk as if that was amazing stuff. Outside of USA proper techniques are used all the time :) Whether it be Thai or Holland or any other non USA kick or attack for that burger.
@fleshtheworld I know but striking technique like this isn't shown very often in MMA so for an mma fight its pretty good. And the dude who gave the kick is a very good striker with amazing kicks in all of his fights.
And in Holland or Thailand, they make make piss poor boxing seem like amazing stuff. But in the USA, it's used all the time. Moron, this is MMA. Most foreign MMA fighters don't kick this well either.
I was replying to someone who said that "outside of USA proper techniques are used all the time" Which is stupid as hell, comparing the striking of MMA fighters to Dutch or Thai kickboxers.
When the fuck did I ever say that? All I said was foreign mma fighters can't kick this well normally, in response to fleshoftheworld making the dumbass comment that only "USA fighters" can't do it.
What are you on about? I was replying to stupid post about American MMA athletes not kicking as well as KICKBOXERS. I could say why doesn't a Dutch come to the UFC and fight for far more money than he'd make in Holland?
@chiconspiracy they don't kick nearly as well as amateur muay thai teen competitors. it's nothing wrong with that. it is what it is. i get sick of us Americans thinking we're great at every fucking thing...AND WE'RE NOT. That's a damn fact.
a dutch wouldn't come to the UFC because the racist or prejudice ass people that view the ufc (the target demographic) will never consider a non-white, non-american their hero. for the record...ufc fighters don't make as much as k-1 fighters
I never said America was the best at everything. I never said America had the best Muay Thai... My initial comment was against the stupid ass assertion that only Americans can't use "proper technique" which is stupid as hell. Dutch wouldn't come to the UFC? Hardonk isn't Dutch? One of MMA's pioneers, Bas Rutten, isn't Dutch?
Your comment about UFC fans never having a "non-white, non-american" as their hero is utterly stupid. Anderson Silva? Shogun Rua? GSP? Lyoto Machida?
@chiconspiracy i agree with your previous boxing salary comment. k-1 fighters fight more often than ufc fighter and promotional monies are bigger.
many american's have shitty kicking...hell...europeans that compete overseas have shitty kicking. we're both boxing based. which would explain why buakaw wiped them all out.
of course we'll have a diverse belt holders...the point IS WE AMERICAN MEDIA DO NOT PROMOTE THEM. anderson silva a hero? please people still think he isn't PfP
So..that's why almost every American pfp ranking system has Anderson Silva at number 1 or 2? And Fedor was in the top 3 until he basically stopped fighting anyone decent, and finally dropped after his loss to Werdum.
K1 fighters fight more often, but they really do make less from the fighting itself than UFC fighters do. Even worn out guys like Hughes make 200,000, and that's BEFORE promotional money. The elite of K1 could only dream of making that much for a non-title fight.
@chiconspiracy 2cont. ...they still don't think he's PFP material. they'll quickly claim GSP before anderson silva.
i will not say that ALL americans are prejudice...that would be stupid and illogical. BUT it is equally stupid as hell to think that there isn't prejudice in this sport and with it's viewers.
hell, it's been that way since they opened the doors to Blacks in sport.
i mean these guys have belts, but you don't see them on the front of the magazines. Silva..once.
@chiconspiracy 2cont. furthermore, with how we americans do business...we'll get you over here and then slap a contract that states you can't fight anywhere else and we'll only sign you up for 1 to 2 fights per year. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT, SIR?
i train in mma and have been watching and studying this combat sport since ufc#1. many of us watch k-1, pride, and numerous other combat competitions, if accessible. so if a person's knowledge of mma doesn't go past most recent events...
@chiconspiracy 3. cont. then...why even comment. in the united states we are still very biased. in japan, for instance...sure they would love to have a japanese champ...if not, well they'll surely route for you if you're from croatia, usa, brazil, etc. they LOVE the sport...not the face of the sport.
ufc made all that shit about fedor vs brock...they would've gotten fedor and never marketed him. shit, they're doing that to all the current champs.
Right, that's why Fedor got HUGE cheers when he fought the AMERICAN coleman in Las Vegas. That's why Crocop got HUGE cheers when he transferred to the UFC.
Yes, the Japanese are great fans, they are more polite and respectful than anyone else. I like how they are quiet until it is appropriate to cheer. But to say Americans are the worst would be stupid. Have you seen any Sanshou vs Muay Thai matches? The Chinese and Thai fans are terribly biased.
@chiconspiracy coleman is an ass...everyone knows that. crocop is a legend...that's like not getting aroused when Michael Jackson comes to your town.
yes, the chinese can be extremely biased. thai fans...well there were a few dutch, american, etc. fighters that they came to favor. ramon dekkers, for instance...
@chiconspiracy 5. cont. if your ass isn't white, they're not going to promote you. brock held his belt for 5 or 6 defenses. on a cover of a video game. forrest griffith is now considered an undercard fighter...on a cover of a video game. as a matter of fact ALL the video games feature a white fighter. ufc 2009 featured GSP on the Canadian release.
this is how FUCKED UP WE ARE...ufc sudden impact video game 2004 featured phil baroni...who lost in 2004 and had a record of half wins/loses
@chiconspiracy 6cont. so THATS why many fighters will not bring their ass here in the us to fight. not enough competition, weak ass payroll (in 2004 fighter payroll well under 1million, what's the payroll in 2011? LOL! laughable im sure).
if you're not white or non-american...they will not promote you. Anderson silva made history IN UFC for defending his belt...something his competitors can't do. you don't see his face anywhere.
We're fucked up in the head and if you can admit that...
What do K1 fighters get paid? What do Lumpinee champs make? Fucking chump change.
Top K1 fighters only make decent pay if they win the GP at the end of the year. ONLY the top guys get anything half-decent in pay. MMA's star athletes make more money than K1's. A lot of the top tier guys make 200,000 for an average fight, much better than k1.
Find a UFC event in 2011 that didn't top 1 million. And if you're so concerned with money, BOXING blows both out of the water.
@chiconspiracy you're right about difference in pay. however, ufc fighters should've been making that kind of income the total purse is now looking better...i agree.
at the same time...in mma your ass isn't fighting as often as you need to.
@chiconspiracy Yea' that's half true. Thailand has amazing fighters not so great in boxing but they do the job, Holland has amazing kickboxers they are good boxers too and most of the MMA fighters aren't americans, they are usually from Holland, Japan, Brazil and even Russia..
You think there are MORE good mma fighters from Holland or Russia than America? Are you kidding me? Brazilians yes, but Holland? no... Is there even a Dutch mma fighter in the top 20 of any weight class aside from Overeem?
josh did the mj on one foot
RicoJuanBirch 1 month ago
hamered with that SHIN !
thomas744 1 month ago
Hammer!
Omeluta 1 month ago
josh kosheck you are one ugly motherfucker... you must soak your hair in PISS every morning
analagony 1 month ago 3
@analagony That's probably the best thing i've ever heard written about kosckeck,thumbs up,hahahaha
bstrdmissed 1 month ago
@bstrdmissed right on man hahaha im glad someone actually read it lol
analagony 1 month ago
Im away to watch that fight now. ALVES FOR THE WIN!
Lyotodossantos 1 month ago
die motherfucker
Milexor 1 month ago
AH
MaaXXiiiE 2 months ago
I've been doing Muay Thai for quite some times, and there'd be days where we'd do a whole hour of just kicking each other in the legs! So painful! I had bruises all over my legs, and one time I had to call my mom to come get me because I couldn't even walk to my car! LOL still cracks me up thinking about that! My mom was NOT pleased :D
killerkdawg88 2 months ago
@killerkdawg88 still you have to love the pain, right? That's something people who don't do any kind of MA do not understand.
(I've to admitt I wasn't bruised that bad that I could not walk to my car ever but I know pain from training very well)
qubiq3 1 month ago
he had the chance to punch him in the face.
jin54363 2 months ago
The low kick is very painful to the one who is hit, if done properly. But very painful to the one who does it, if contrarrested properly.
Flavioxeneize 2 months ago 3
Anyone who's ever taken a low kick (a really good one that lands at that spot right above the knee where the IT band is) knows that there are no words to describe how painful it is!
killerkdawg88 2 months ago 2
I hate getting kicked there, you know what sort of kinda not really helps it... I have a foam roller thingy, it's hard to explain but just look it up on youtube. It helps your IT band alot, along with other parts of your body =D Leg kicks still hurt btw... But it helps stretch out your IT band =D
ChamorruWarrior 2 months ago
@ChamorruWarrior Yeah I know what you're talking about. I've seen others use it and it might not be a bad idea for me to invest in one :)
killerkdawg88 2 months ago
You can get one at Walmart for like $15. I've done martial arts for a while, and sometimes kicking and weird positions with your legs in Jujitsu can hurt your knees. Your IT band's flexability has alot to do with how well your knee is. It helped me so much, I do not know any normal stretches or excersies to help stretch out your IT band, so it's great! Get one! =D
ChamorruWarrior 2 months ago
god daym...
wakko380 2 months ago
@wakko380 I WISH St. Pierre had a leg kick like Alvez, unless u were just complimenting george out of context.
peeweesherman 2 months ago
Nice one George, you showed that shaven yeti who's the real champion :)
BenK8319 2 months ago
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Flavioxeneize 2 months ago
i am thai boxer i knoe how that hurts ;D
SirDark93 3 months ago
@SirDark93 I hate the low kicks, but i like using them.. they're evil :x
gris186 2 months ago 2
thumbs up if you cant stop watching this video...
ace777 3 months ago 4
SO that must look like!
Vladyboy95 3 months ago
thiago alves
daberek666 3 months ago 2
jeromme labanner ??
MegaRom33 3 months ago
@MegaRom33 if that was jerome le banner his leg would be amputated!
dasniwaar 2 months ago 2
Never saw a more deserving kick, lol.
utubesqueeze 3 months ago
lo agarro justo con la pierna levantada
teleparker010 3 months ago
essa doeu kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Goias121 3 months ago
gsp beat the shit out of these two
Sal3600 4 months ago
@Sal3600
He didn't "beat the shit out of" Alves... Alves did pretty well.
chiconspiracy 4 months ago
@chiconspiracy just sayin...as in defeated them
Sal3600 4 months ago
I would turn my hips more than he did
kamillyba 4 months ago
@kamillyba shut the fuck up
TheManofgolf68 4 months ago
@kamillyba I would fight better than he did... easy to say from my lounge room... fucking dick head!!!
ThePandamusmaximus 3 months ago
That was beautiul.
Andypotent 4 months ago 42
@Andypotent those were exactly the words that went through my mind
Fatalsingh 4 months ago
Joe Rogan probably jacked off to this later.
mmafan130 4 months ago
@mmafan130 I fuckin' jacked off to that later!
H8lowlives 4 months ago
hell yea the kick was even better cause it was done on Koscheck
Fupper16 4 months ago
ukkkar zur urdi amo
kholmatovsh 4 months ago
Bas does iit like this but this is only useful if you have good hips. The hips is were all the Torque comes from. And basically the groin in connection with the hips causes it all to stereach like a rubberband thus creating a very torquey kick, but it has to all done perfectly in motion as u can see like a slicing effect as my muay thai coach explains.
DARQMX 4 months ago
Bones Leg Kicks On Shogun Looked Cooler
07liberian 4 months ago
lol I remember this fight. Alves owned Kos badly. primarily because Kos was having a "K-1 Matt Hughes" complex for lack of a better term and fancied himself an elite striker just because he has heavy hands. lmfao the joke was on Kos tho, because all he was doing was challenging Alves at his own game and Kos got battered around for three straight rounds.
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xtapodiKsidato 4 months ago
how is the name from this fighters ?
Fast1Rilind 5 months ago
@Fast1Rilind josh kosheck and thiago alves
schubbel 4 months ago
@Fast1Rilind Thiago Alves is kicking Josh Koscheck
Fupper16 4 months ago
Meat Tenderizer~
RagedRed 5 months ago
это должно быть больно
TuleN777 5 months ago
shit that hurt me... just by watching!
gusto1978 5 months ago 2
this is like bally to me. So fluid! so beautiful!
Gt03champp 5 months ago
haha red shorts : 0.04 far cry 2 :DD
MrPacGaming 5 months ago
just gets HAMMERED with that shit
GetWreckedPunk 5 months ago
@GetWreckedPunk *shin
Scouserrrr08 5 months ago
Josh Koscheck and Thiago Alves, two of my favorite fighters
MrStilltippin44 6 months ago
Damn thiago alves has some of the meanest leg kicks,
MrStilltippin44 6 months ago
FUCK YOU JOSH KOSHECK
matdetonator 6 months ago 96
chuck norris breaks femurs when he leg kicks. and that's when he's sitting down
YouKnowThatYouDont 6 months ago
@YouKnowThatYouDont FUCK YOU AND YOUR CHUCK NORRIS
matdetonator 6 months ago
There goes dat hop dat err1 seems to dislike in evry othr vid abt low kicks...
Tooks77 6 months ago
PERFECT!!
En11dj 6 months ago
who's fighting? Koschek and who?
tehlitepker 6 months ago
@tehlitepker Thiago Alves
kablahblah22 6 months ago
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk nem doeu neh koscheck
MegaTiger40 6 months ago
I will always give a thumbs up to kos getting kicked
lighterhead 7 months ago
ramasse ta jambe lol
soupeuman 7 months ago 2
What I especially like about this, is that he actually jabs to set up the kick. Too few MMA-fighters set up their kicks with jabs, and it's a beautiful thing to see it done right.
Oracurax 7 months ago
Brasileira aqui comentando *-*
HanneCintra 7 months ago
Brasil aquiii *-*
HanneCintra 7 months ago
Joe Silva's reaction is priceless haha
GSPtkosAndersonSilva 7 months ago
Brad is a troll he says the same thing on loads of kick vids. So fucking pathetic
30013194 7 months ago
Bas ftw!
doneins 7 months ago
Bas Rutten?
Kragge14 8 months ago
@Kragge14 thiago alvez bro
felipepro2006 7 months ago
lol it doesnt really do anything except throw him off balance a bit
brad12100 8 months ago
@brad12100
And hurt him a lot!! xD
Nitrixx7110 8 months ago
@brad12100 are you retarded? go practise proffesional muay thai and come back to me
ante9224 7 months ago
@brad12100 ahaha you shittin me? take either a muay thai or kick boxing class and see how much low kick hurts, oh and lets not forget these guys are professional fighters.
iloveamerica21 7 months ago
q bica mermao!
uhueissoai1 8 months ago
o kurw** złamałem piszczel
bastek988 8 months ago 38
XD
in my class the kids low kicking each other and they cant do anything in BE
AVIV222 8 months ago
nice!!
Emzfit 8 months ago
VERY NICE!! PERFECT LOW KICK!!
En11dj 8 months ago
holy christ thats what i call a perfectly executed kick. DAM
rsacommercial 8 months ago
złamałem piszczel.
Typek177 8 months ago
kos still fucked him up
doperapper26 8 months ago
@doperapper26 no he didnt, gathering that Thiago Alves won via unanimous decision.
RyRyBassline 8 months ago
@doperapper26 you are joking right. that was one of he most one sided fights i have ever seen. he was lucky alves didn't finish him
shnibly12 6 months ago
tinha q da otro chute na cabeça na sequencia,ele abriu demais a guarda=p apoksakops
RnnKT09 8 months ago
vicious
alizaye 8 months ago
и в чем прикол?
dimkos2121 9 months ago
NASTY leg kick. thats maximum torque at its finest. i'd like to see how Kos was walking the day after that fight lol
xXBeastfromdaEastXx 9 months ago
what fight is this
cyber8000 9 months ago
@cyber8000 UFC 90 This is Tiago Alves and Josh Koscheck
MariaVana 9 months ago
Words couldn't even begin to describe...
rpgamer94 9 months ago
pitbull Alves is a beast!!!
socastar90 9 months ago
0:10 Farcry2 na tyłku :D
RobertJaworzno2 9 months ago
PERFECT!
En11dj 9 months ago
Great leg kick!
ichujini 9 months ago
I think the commentator wants to get hammered with that shit.
The1stPoster 9 months ago
All you guys talking about perfect technique (re: talking out of your asses) remember this important fact: all that matters in MMA is EFFECTIVENESS, period. Alves is one of the most effective fighters in the world with his kicks.
khovs 9 months ago
who threw the kick? what's his name?
ProSkilllz 9 months ago
@ProSkilllz Thiago Alves is his name
cazz3000 9 months ago
Beautiful
Thatboysanch210 9 months ago
pfff, these don't count
googleboughtmee 10 months ago
hahaha alves wanted to kick a second time...joke cockshackes leg would break without doubt
TheTikeMyson 10 months ago
that kick would had made me do a flip
rhyno514 10 months ago
Why are u hating on americans , without their entertaiment world would be a boring place ... Ty good old americans for hollywood , ufc and charlie sheen ....
MadeInBosina 10 months ago 3
@MadeInBosina you stupid fool ufc was INTRODUCED by the Gracies=BRAZILIANS. america provides the media.
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@doctorsizzle Thank you very much for that information ... It will change the course of my life ...
MadeInBosina 10 months ago
@MadeInBosina lol! your response was funny.
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
he has one of the best kicks
MrDoable 10 months ago
you know koscheck felt that one haha
ezzydric 10 months ago
it`s true, the U.S. can`t kick for shit, al the really know is boxing an wrestling
flipmarty 11 months ago
@flipmarty
It's true that K1 and Muay Thai isn't big at all in the US, which is a shame, but you could also say the Dutch and Thais can't box or wrestle "for shit". For MMA purposes, boxing and wrestling are more important than kicking anyway.
chiconspiracy 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy you could say that... it just wouldn`t be true.
the netherlands produces a lot of well rounded hitters and kickers.
also judo is very big but they won`t go near mma that`s all.
flipmarty 10 months ago
Ha awesome kick ! :D would of been much cooler had he finished it with a superman punch nice
jamescourt1000 11 months ago
Good Job Kos, nice balance
andregomesnf 11 months ago
take that koscheck
TheTikeMyson 11 months ago
That is a textbook lowkick.really well done.No wonder Rogan is impressed because most guys in mma don´t know how to do it at proper way
Demagoc 1 year ago
respect for all fighters, a good low kick indeed, Dutch style, thai do not focus on low kicks, too much injury, they fight weekly ...but who cares a good low kock is a good low kick. These hilarious US commentators bother me.."on the flesh of the leg..", a low kick hits the leg muscle and destabilizes, you can`t train endurance, need to block, also painful btw.
Dubaiman123 1 year ago
omg his foot is died xD
MitEisTee 1 year ago
he was gonna kick kos again
vtownHduece 1 year ago
Good Thai style Low kick.
Hankthejollyspoon 1 year ago
Muay Thai style.
1dangerouskarateka 1 year ago
this is a muay thai outside i think
Sqwidamn 1 year ago
Okay, I thought it was going to be a video of something odd or special that happened, and it's a regular lowkick. I know a proper lowkick is somewhat uncommon among mma fighters, whose kickboxing skills are generally mediocre at best, but still, why not mark this video a little better?
Blahb27 1 year ago
what is his name i always forget it..
danielhaighton 1 year ago
@danielhaighton Thiago Alves.
LAVALLEE1991 1 year ago
@LAVALLEE1991 thank you i always think thiago silva or alves hahaha thx
danielhaighton 1 year ago
The meat of the leg gets hammered with that SHIT! AHAHHA
HRFlizard 1 year ago
@HRFlizard shin
2ossy 1 year ago
@HRFlizard it was hammered with that shin you dick
Coreyisgod1 1 year ago
lol @ farcry 2
danielhaighton 1 year ago
damn that would have droped anybody else
BoxingKid100 1 year ago
Wow that's like perfect, textbook technique. Gotta give respect to Kos though, the guy can take a beating.
MatrixMedal2 1 year ago
@MatrixMedal2 the only thing i'll respect for taking a beating a damn heavybag. if a man doesn't know how to reduce the amount of damage he receives in a match...shit, man...it's time to taking applications for another job.
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@lilrob433412172 This was late in the third round, thiago already kicked the shit out if josh before this kick
SuperShogun64 1 year ago
why is it better to attack the upper leg with a lowkick instead of the knee?
Krankyism 1 year ago
@Krankyism Bone on bone. It's going to hurt you and won't be half as effective.
FireProMMA 1 year ago
@Krankyism @FireProMMA na not rly
if u hit from the side or with a frontkick while the leg is elongated the knee will be totally destroyed
therefor in sport like ufc and even in muay thai it is forbidden to attack the knee like u would do in selfdefence systems like krav maga which is no sport but total destruction of ur opponent
foyeey 1 year ago
I WANT TO DO THIS TO SOME ONE I KNO :)
emkplayboy6 1 year ago
Is this Bill Goldberg commentating?
HermanHermes 1 year ago
UFC is soo funny. They talk as if that was amazing stuff. Outside of USA proper techniques are used all the time :) Whether it be Thai or Holland or any other non USA kick or attack for that burger.
fleshtheworld 1 year ago 50
@fleshtheworld I know but striking technique like this isn't shown very often in MMA so for an mma fight its pretty good. And the dude who gave the kick is a very good striker with amazing kicks in all of his fights.
SuperShogun64 1 year ago
@fleshtheworld well then obviously you don't know who these people are and have never stepped in a ring.
chikkmagneet 1 year ago
@fleshtheworld
And in Holland or Thailand, they make make piss poor boxing seem like amazing stuff. But in the USA, it's used all the time. Moron, this is MMA. Most foreign MMA fighters don't kick this well either.
chiconspiracy 1 year ago 40
@chiconspiracy in holland have greats box skill in k-1 or muay thai figths dont be a asshole
MMACommando 1 year ago
@MMACommando
I was replying to someone who said that "outside of USA proper techniques are used all the time" Which is stupid as hell, comparing the striking of MMA fighters to Dutch or Thai kickboxers.
chiconspiracy 1 year ago
@chiconspiracy OK, sorry
MMACommando 1 year ago
@chiconspiracy Cro Cop, alistair overeem, fedor (watch the GP against cro cop he can kick ass) Cung le etc..
TheObelix876 1 year ago
@chiconspiracy probaly because a kickboxer > a boxer any day :)
TheObelix876 1 year ago
@chiconspiracy You must be retarded if you think Dutch or Thai fighters don't know how to low kick like this...
philchangster 11 months ago
@philchangster
When the fuck did I ever say that? All I said was foreign mma fighters can't kick this well normally, in response to fleshoftheworld making the dumbass comment that only "USA fighters" can't do it.
chiconspiracy 11 months ago
@chiconspiracy lol your retarded
nww135 11 months ago
@nww135
"You're"
Fixed that for you chief.
chiconspiracy 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy thanks lol
nww135 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy
I AGREE. to @fleshtheworld. Ive trained with Alves. The real deal.
lightningleg2 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy In Holland there isn't ppor boxing. Poor wrestling...
MaxWi1ms 10 months ago
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yassigole 10 months ago
@yassigole
What are you on about? I was replying to stupid post about American MMA athletes not kicking as well as KICKBOXERS. I could say why doesn't a Dutch come to the UFC and fight for far more money than he'd make in Holland?
chiconspiracy 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy they don't kick nearly as well as amateur muay thai teen competitors. it's nothing wrong with that. it is what it is. i get sick of us Americans thinking we're great at every fucking thing...AND WE'RE NOT. That's a damn fact.
a dutch wouldn't come to the UFC because the racist or prejudice ass people that view the ufc (the target demographic) will never consider a non-white, non-american their hero. for the record...ufc fighters don't make as much as k-1 fighters
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@doctorsizzle
I never said America was the best at everything. I never said America had the best Muay Thai... My initial comment was against the stupid ass assertion that only Americans can't use "proper technique" which is stupid as hell. Dutch wouldn't come to the UFC? Hardonk isn't Dutch? One of MMA's pioneers, Bas Rutten, isn't Dutch?
Your comment about UFC fans never having a "non-white, non-american" as their hero is utterly stupid. Anderson Silva? Shogun Rua? GSP? Lyoto Machida?
chiconspiracy 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy i agree with your previous boxing salary comment. k-1 fighters fight more often than ufc fighter and promotional monies are bigger.
many american's have shitty kicking...hell...europeans that compete overseas have shitty kicking. we're both boxing based. which would explain why buakaw wiped them all out.
of course we'll have a diverse belt holders...the point IS WE AMERICAN MEDIA DO NOT PROMOTE THEM. anderson silva a hero? please people still think he isn't PfP
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@doctorsizzle
So..that's why almost every American pfp ranking system has Anderson Silva at number 1 or 2? And Fedor was in the top 3 until he basically stopped fighting anyone decent, and finally dropped after his loss to Werdum.
K1 fighters fight more often, but they really do make less from the fighting itself than UFC fighters do. Even worn out guys like Hughes make 200,000, and that's BEFORE promotional money. The elite of K1 could only dream of making that much for a non-title fight.
chiconspiracy 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy 2cont. ...they still don't think he's PFP material. they'll quickly claim GSP before anderson silva.
i will not say that ALL americans are prejudice...that would be stupid and illogical. BUT it is equally stupid as hell to think that there isn't prejudice in this sport and with it's viewers.
hell, it's been that way since they opened the doors to Blacks in sport.
i mean these guys have belts, but you don't see them on the front of the magazines. Silva..once.
TFIUWThat?
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy 2cont. furthermore, with how we americans do business...we'll get you over here and then slap a contract that states you can't fight anywhere else and we'll only sign you up for 1 to 2 fights per year. WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT, SIR?
i train in mma and have been watching and studying this combat sport since ufc#1. many of us watch k-1, pride, and numerous other combat competitions, if accessible. so if a person's knowledge of mma doesn't go past most recent events...
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy 3. cont. then...why even comment. in the united states we are still very biased. in japan, for instance...sure they would love to have a japanese champ...if not, well they'll surely route for you if you're from croatia, usa, brazil, etc. they LOVE the sport...not the face of the sport.
ufc made all that shit about fedor vs brock...they would've gotten fedor and never marketed him. shit, they're doing that to all the current champs.
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@doctorsizzle
Right, that's why Fedor got HUGE cheers when he fought the AMERICAN coleman in Las Vegas. That's why Crocop got HUGE cheers when he transferred to the UFC.
Yes, the Japanese are great fans, they are more polite and respectful than anyone else. I like how they are quiet until it is appropriate to cheer. But to say Americans are the worst would be stupid. Have you seen any Sanshou vs Muay Thai matches? The Chinese and Thai fans are terribly biased.
chiconspiracy 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy coleman is an ass...everyone knows that. crocop is a legend...that's like not getting aroused when Michael Jackson comes to your town.
yes, the chinese can be extremely biased. thai fans...well there were a few dutch, american, etc. fighters that they came to favor. ramon dekkers, for instance...
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy 5. cont. if your ass isn't white, they're not going to promote you. brock held his belt for 5 or 6 defenses. on a cover of a video game. forrest griffith is now considered an undercard fighter...on a cover of a video game. as a matter of fact ALL the video games feature a white fighter. ufc 2009 featured GSP on the Canadian release.
this is how FUCKED UP WE ARE...ufc sudden impact video game 2004 featured phil baroni...who lost in 2004 and had a record of half wins/loses
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy 6cont. so THATS why many fighters will not bring their ass here in the us to fight. not enough competition, weak ass payroll (in 2004 fighter payroll well under 1million, what's the payroll in 2011? LOL! laughable im sure).
if you're not white or non-american...they will not promote you. Anderson silva made history IN UFC for defending his belt...something his competitors can't do. you don't see his face anywhere.
We're fucked up in the head and if you can admit that...
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@doctorsizzle
What do K1 fighters get paid? What do Lumpinee champs make? Fucking chump change.
Top K1 fighters only make decent pay if they win the GP at the end of the year. ONLY the top guys get anything half-decent in pay. MMA's star athletes make more money than K1's. A lot of the top tier guys make 200,000 for an average fight, much better than k1.
Find a UFC event in 2011 that didn't top 1 million. And if you're so concerned with money, BOXING blows both out of the water.
chiconspiracy 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy you're right about difference in pay. however, ufc fighters should've been making that kind of income the total purse is now looking better...i agree.
at the same time...in mma your ass isn't fighting as often as you need to.
doctorsizzle 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy for sure bro GOOD comment man
MASTERYAZ09 10 months ago
@chiconspiracy Yea' that's half true. Thailand has amazing fighters not so great in boxing but they do the job, Holland has amazing kickboxers they are good boxers too and most of the MMA fighters aren't americans, they are usually from Holland, Japan, Brazil and even Russia..
marintoss 10 months ago
@marintoss
You think there are MORE good mma fighters from Holland or Russia than America? Are you kidding me? Brazilians yes, but Holland? no... Is there even a Dutch mma fighter in the top 20 of any weight class aside from Overeem?
chiconspiracy 10 months ago