i think the concept that u have for this shoot aint suitable for a corporate shoot. the dark background and expressionless faces will add a bad emotive atmosphere to the already dreading environment. also, it will seem that they are the only ones working and gives an eerie lonely atmosphere.
it will work well for a ghetto-themed shoot with the bling blings but just not for this. dun think ur client understands enough of wats expected for his corporate photos either..
I unfortunately came across this video again and was surprised with all the negative but true response, you still have it up ? " CLUE " The word will spread and you may never be hired again. You obviously need to be re-educated about the BASIC fundamentals of photography. Best gear and gadgets does not equal best images. Take a look at videos from Bert Stephane " Confessions of a Photographer " He shoots great images using simple but effective methods. You just may learn something. No more vids.
Firstly, If you want to be taken seriously. Show up to work dressed like you give a damn. Not like your going for a piss up with your mates ! Remember, first impressions are important. Secondly, the guy in the green shirt said he liked the dark background, because he saw all this photo gear and automatically assumed the images had to be good. He also has no idea what's going on.
I had this feeling for some time now, "Strobist" became so hip and cool that everyone is mimicking the set up without actually knowing what they're doing.
Slow your shutter (ambient light), open up your lens (isolate subjects), gel the flash to match the industrial light.
In all fairness to Breadfan35, the client (guy in green shirt @ 4:20sec) did SAY he like the background being very dark and one can't see into it.
Let's assume breadfan35 did shoot some with lighter backgrounds; but, the client like the darker stuff and breadfan35 only showed what was delivered, yes? Does this work for everyone? (Including the haters and lovers of the results)
Lastly, I did love that joke: How many photog does it take to screw in a bulb? One and 99 w/different opinions.
Contrary to the belief of many amateurs, there is a base knowledge and industry standard to uphold... that is why there are places like Brooks, Winona, Hallmark and NYIP. Not because technique does not matter, but because it does.
There are many ways to shoot this scene, but I think most who know what they are doing understand the difference between a professional quality commercial image and an entirely amateur photo... that difference is CONTROL! There is very little CONTROL of this environment and/or subject lighting.
As with MANY location shoots, the location should be the first thing you take control of... then when that base exposure is established, the subject can be lit RELATIVE to the base exposure for a more well balanced image.
The flash was used as the main light with no consideration for the ambient light which caused the fall-off into black with no detail. The END RESULT which is all that matters ended up being little better than a SNAPSHOT.
If the location does not matter, then shoot the people in a studio. I assume it is a LOCATION shot to show the LOCATION which in this case is as much of the subject and the workers.
If we keep patting people on the back to make them feel good, they are never going to learn. This shoot was done 180 degrees backwards. The shot should have been on a tripod and the base exposure for the ambient light of the warehouse and the flash should have been used for separation lights and fill light only. see more...
@rinceresource Image quality of a camera body isn't only measured in megapixels, it is also measured by micro lenses, bit depth, pixel density, and sophistication of the imaging sensor and processor.
Sorry but your light control is not good yet. Background is too dark and you should better use some umbrella to soft the light. But first of all practise more with light balance becouse those pictures looks like in black hole.
horrible horrible work, not using any good rules, no leading lines with 3rds, i would have set up 5-10 off camera flashes down the row on each side to give it depth and slowed the shutter speed as well as used a shoot through/brollybox/softbox to soften the subject unless your trying to convey that the workers are old and aged looking, not a good shoot at all, one of ur shots has the shelves taking up most of the picture, they probably have night school for photography ;)
@AnthraxVX no one gives a shit about what you would have done. The truth is you didn't do anything. He just sat on your ass and threw you photography 101 textbook at this guy. Photography has some loose guidelines, somewhere to start but if everyone shot by the book, pictures would be dull and boring. So in the immortal words of Deltron Fuck the Haters
I would have used the perspective of the shelves in the background to give the shot more depth, your light is too harsh. Also I don't think the subjects need a photography lesson. Softboxes would have gave better results instead of over powering the daylight with your light you should have used your light to compliment it, for a much softer and natural look.
With such a poor level you do not deserve that expensive camera and lens. Strobist is not just about shooting at the sync speed with bare flashes. I mean, wtf? You've hoy a nice location and you screw ir up turning ir pitch black. Man you look kind, but you should try harder.
very nice, but as mentioned before, dragging the shutter to reveal more of the background would reveal more of the location and give sense and scale to the shot. but good job nevertheless.
sorry but I feel that this sucks, too bright and too dark of a background, no balance, no warmth no bokeh.. its a deer with a headlight! sorry.. that's just how I see it..
Great video! If i may be constructive... I think the shot of the woman could have used a warming gel (CTO .. but i dont know what white balance you were using) The 5D Video looks great to!
well the client did say he wanted a dark background.
burd1234 1 year ago
bad bad bad, no grace, the place is lost, just light and dark no more, nothing to see
cmoreno23 1 year ago
Nice vid. I like the setup and final shots added.
LEXPIX 1 year ago
i think the concept that u have for this shoot aint suitable for a corporate shoot. the dark background and expressionless faces will add a bad emotive atmosphere to the already dreading environment. also, it will seem that they are the only ones working and gives an eerie lonely atmosphere.
it will work well for a ghetto-themed shoot with the bling blings but just not for this. dun think ur client understands enough of wats expected for his corporate photos either..
stewiek 1 year ago
great video! i enjoyed it very much! thank you!
tricerri123 1 year ago
what is the point in trying to talk to mexicans about lighting for a shoot
fergfergferg123 1 year ago
@fergfergferg123 The point is that your mom is a whore.
SuperSeyoe 1 year ago
@SuperSeyoe ha ha ha , really? no
fergfergferg123 1 year ago
I unfortunately came across this video again and was surprised with all the negative but true response, you still have it up ? " CLUE " The word will spread and you may never be hired again. You obviously need to be re-educated about the BASIC fundamentals of photography. Best gear and gadgets does not equal best images. Take a look at videos from Bert Stephane " Confessions of a Photographer " He shoots great images using simple but effective methods. You just may learn something. No more vids.
guspo1 1 year ago
@guspo1 bert stephani - a great photographer.... buy his dvd you wont regret...
mixmaxdix 1 year ago
Firstly, If you want to be taken seriously. Show up to work dressed like you give a damn. Not like your going for a piss up with your mates ! Remember, first impressions are important. Secondly, the guy in the green shirt said he liked the dark background, because he saw all this photo gear and automatically assumed the images had to be good. He also has no idea what's going on.
guspo1 1 year ago
great video edit w/music timing.
I had this feeling for some time now, "Strobist" became so hip and cool that everyone is mimicking the set up without actually knowing what they're doing.
Slow your shutter (ambient light), open up your lens (isolate subjects), gel the flash to match the industrial light.
kwanyx 1 year ago
In all fairness to Breadfan35, the client (guy in green shirt @ 4:20sec) did SAY he like the background being very dark and one can't see into it.
Let's assume breadfan35 did shoot some with lighter backgrounds; but, the client like the darker stuff and breadfan35 only showed what was delivered, yes? Does this work for everyone? (Including the haters and lovers of the results)
Lastly, I did love that joke: How many photog does it take to screw in a bulb? One and 99 w/different opinions.
kwanyx 1 year ago
yukk
CboyDav 1 year ago
u look a twat with that tie on
finn3rs1993 1 year ago 2
Contrary to the belief of many amateurs, there is a base knowledge and industry standard to uphold... that is why there are places like Brooks, Winona, Hallmark and NYIP. Not because technique does not matter, but because it does.
DIZEMANPHOTO 1 year ago
There are many ways to shoot this scene, but I think most who know what they are doing understand the difference between a professional quality commercial image and an entirely amateur photo... that difference is CONTROL! There is very little CONTROL of this environment and/or subject lighting.
DIZEMANPHOTO 1 year ago
As with MANY location shoots, the location should be the first thing you take control of... then when that base exposure is established, the subject can be lit RELATIVE to the base exposure for a more well balanced image.
DIZEMANPHOTO 1 year ago
The flash was used as the main light with no consideration for the ambient light which caused the fall-off into black with no detail. The END RESULT which is all that matters ended up being little better than a SNAPSHOT.
If the location does not matter, then shoot the people in a studio. I assume it is a LOCATION shot to show the LOCATION which in this case is as much of the subject and the workers.
DIZEMANPHOTO 1 year ago 2
If we keep patting people on the back to make them feel good, they are never going to learn. This shoot was done 180 degrees backwards. The shot should have been on a tripod and the base exposure for the ambient light of the warehouse and the flash should have been used for separation lights and fill light only. see more...
DIZEMANPHOTO 1 year ago
i hae no idea what he shoots all of the time, but for these types of shots a d90 or d5000 would be good. quick handling and the same image quality.
rinceresource 1 year ago
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TheBillster2 1 year ago
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TheBillster2 1 year ago
@rinceresource Image quality of a camera body isn't only measured in megapixels, it is also measured by micro lenses, bit depth, pixel density, and sophistication of the imaging sensor and processor.
TheBillster2 1 year ago
whats up with St Patrics day outfit? :D
RonaldsSulcs 1 year ago
Sorry but your light control is not good yet. Background is too dark and you should better use some umbrella to soft the light. But first of all practise more with light balance becouse those pictures looks like in black hole.
wjt06 1 year ago
good work guys!
icedsoul 1 year ago
Question: How many photographers does it take to screw in a light bulb?
Answer: 100 - 1 to do the job and the other 99 to say they'd do it differently!
ppcnews 1 year ago
I would not have dragged the shutter a bit. Good work buddy.
huskerss1 1 year ago
horrible horrible work, not using any good rules, no leading lines with 3rds, i would have set up 5-10 off camera flashes down the row on each side to give it depth and slowed the shutter speed as well as used a shoot through/brollybox/softbox to soften the subject unless your trying to convey that the workers are old and aged looking, not a good shoot at all, one of ur shots has the shelves taking up most of the picture, they probably have night school for photography ;)
AnthraxVX 1 year ago
@AnthraxVX no one gives a shit about what you would have done. The truth is you didn't do anything. He just sat on your ass and threw you photography 101 textbook at this guy. Photography has some loose guidelines, somewhere to start but if everyone shot by the book, pictures would be dull and boring. So in the immortal words of Deltron Fuck the Haters
Dooshganoosh 1 year ago
@Dooshganoosh i somewhat agree. there is no one way everyone will shoot. that's why it's art and expression. everyone has their own style.
rinceresource 1 year ago
I would have used the perspective of the shelves in the background to give the shot more depth, your light is too harsh. Also I don't think the subjects need a photography lesson. Softboxes would have gave better results instead of over powering the daylight with your light you should have used your light to compliment it, for a much softer and natural look.
Gruffington31 1 year ago
Thanks for sharing.
I personally think that the light was kinda really really hard.
Looking at that place the first thing I thought was how huge it all was. Would have tried to capture that if it where me.
AlphaSphere 1 year ago
A good effort but a few comments
1. too dark/contrasty - imo, should have lowered the shutter speed to bring in the background and warm the light a little.
2. Not sure what anyone would have learned as you kinda sped through it and didn't show how the scenes were built up.
3. that Canon video is very distracting/irritating. Why blur the background during recording?
anyway, keep it up and take what you can from any criticism and throw away the rest.
wayneleone 1 year ago
With such a poor level you do not deserve that expensive camera and lens. Strobist is not just about shooting at the sync speed with bare flashes. I mean, wtf? You've hoy a nice location and you screw ir up turning ir pitch black. Man you look kind, but you should try harder.
TheOm3ga 1 year ago
very nice, but as mentioned before, dragging the shutter to reveal more of the background would reveal more of the location and give sense and scale to the shot. but good job nevertheless.
0x123456789 1 year ago
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0x123456789 1 year ago
Nevermind... I should have waited for the end.
davis911228 2 years ago
I have a question... What video camera did you shoot this with?
davis911228 2 years ago
What sync speed were you at with the off camera flash?
motherfudpucker 2 years ago
good, but not thing impressive about strobist.....
Dwadawkill 2 years ago
Not to much control with the light. Background too dark and some hot spots on subject. Could use more of the ambience light to reveal the background.
XXXXXXXXZ 2 years ago 18
sorry but I feel that this sucks, too bright and too dark of a background, no balance, no warmth no bokeh.. its a deer with a headlight! sorry.. that's just how I see it..
klasiqk 2 years ago 18
wow !! this was great help!!!
im starting off with off camera flash..
the quality of this video is amazing.
the sound is good.
and the information is good too!
Thanks so much for this! God bless!
adrianvilcan 2 years ago
Great video! If i may be constructive... I think the shot of the woman could have used a warming gel (CTO .. but i dont know what white balance you were using) The 5D Video looks great to!
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emediadesign 2 years ago
Well you sure have me beat on set up shots now! LOL!!! Excellent work Chris.
toolephotography 2 years ago
wow this is really a great "making of" maybe one of the best ive seen yet.
Nice Shooting and nice results!
I probably had used slower shutter speed to get at least a bit of the background but i think that is what the company or you wanted?!
z9rn 2 years ago