@blah979 No they didn't. Voyager had improvements by Future Janeway. and During the Series Voyager itself learned To Adapt to some Borg weapons because of Seven of Nine's Knowlege. BORG ARE NOT PUSSIES
@jeun3sih They turned the Borg from a really though apponent in STTNG into nothing more than a nuisance in Voyager. So right now the Borg are completely overmatched by Fed tech because of Janeway. So there no threat anymore. Which would make them pussies. Also I'm sure there's a few eps about when they didn't have much new tech and still did ok. No way that would happen in sttng.
voyager and ds9 were great, tng's good episodes and arc were few and far between and not very memorable. the most memorable was ro laren. ds9 had a lot going on and so did voyager(at least in the later seasons when they weren't exploring so much.
@darkangel1179 TNG wanted to create stand alone episodes, apart from a few mini-sereies, you could pretty much watch it in any order. DS9 started like that but later looked at the success at B5 so they created a story arc. I guess Voyager is a mix they have many stand alone but always had a story arc timeline.
Well done! Call me crazy, but (and?...) I like to hear the fabricated "noises" you wouldn't even hear in space. lol Wish I could make this vid a screen saver...
@tehOGRE You're retarded if you can't even spell that... Voyager is the only thing that got most people into star trek besides walking around a boring ship all day with action in every like 1 in 5 episodes in TNG, Voyager had action in almost every episode and had brilliant characters as well. I liked the way they were lost in the delta quadrant as well. New species, new everything. It was by far the best star trek to date in my opinion and star trek is definitely opinion, I also loved TNG so...
@tomo0086 yup different shows, TNG is more character based. Also look at the times it started in the late 80's and was very expensive to do the CGI/stop motion they did with the ships. I grew up with TNG will always be my fav. By the time voyager came around they could have a battle every episode with the cheaper CGI costs.
@tehOGRE Voyager introduce the latest technobabbles which TNG didn't have. Eg: it introduce nanorobot as weapons, introduce neural-network as the ship's computer core, introduce more ideas for holodeck use, add holographic doctor, add slipstream drive, and add transwarp conduit for the borg. Even if TNG is the best... it still doesn't have the latest sci-fi idea... :)
@xponen It was the latest ideas at the time, TNG started in the late 80's when computers were virtually non existent, as time went on and new Star Trek was created new ideas sprung, star trek did as it always did with its series, they looked at what is reality at that time and what is theoretically possible in the future by doing heavy research. P.S TNG pretty much created the touch screen :P. I-PAD or kindle is a copy of the TNG data pad.
@Idazmi7 TNG rely on too much mysticism for todays standard. eg: they had a god creature called Q, and human gene can transform us into animal, and far reachest of space bring you to amazing dimension where you can talk to dead loved one. TNG is really really outdated when compared to todays' standard.
Multiple cubes might been seen as an invasion force of which the Alpha Quadrant races would likely join together to stop.
Earth was an easy target the first cube was only barely destroyed and the second one had time traveling sphere was a backup plan.
Sending one cube the other species could deal with the threat after they'd done most the work for them, The Borg don't see the Alpha Quadrant races as a threat and they'll get to the alpha quadrant , Once they're done with the delta.
right people heres y the borg did not assimilate or destroy voyager ever since they saved 7 of 9 the queen woundnt allow it as she in her own way like 7 or 9 as her favrite u have to remember the darkfronter ep were the queen said to 7 that she allowed voyager to take her for the borg and turn her into a individual so the borg would know what it was like. and i know the opening of that ep was voyager being attack by a borg ship but voyager wanted the incounter to get the transwarpcoil.
transphasic torpedoes phase through shields and armor before detonating deep within a target. the ablative armor is more mysterious as it looks to me to be some sort of advanced holgraphic technology like in the holo-decks.
theoretically we could build a similar weapon using relativistic pi mesons if you could produce enough of them. they, too, ignore energy and matter until they decay and produce a burst of gamma radiation and high speed particles.
Clearly you didn't watch the same show , despite what the 29th century Borg did was in his own words limited . The Borg quickly adapted to his modifications , 7 just added Borg technology to the flyer .
The only time they were able beat the Borg was end game with armor and transphasic torpedoes.
Intrepid class is a scout ship / explorer .
Remember a Galaxy class ship Ncc -1701 d was cut to pieces after the Borg adapted to type 9 Phasers & photon torpedoes .
People keep saying borg are weak in voy etc need to wake up im pretty sure most of them dident even watch the series. how are u even comparing an intrepid class to the older crap ships like miranda excelsior at wolf359 in addition voyagers weapons and shields were upgraded by a 29th century(dunno how to spell) borg drone,and seven of nine modified the shields after drak frontier,plus they used the hansons tech and discovery to enhance the ships ability,as well as borg tech from ep the gift.
Still amusing how an Intrepid class ship could even survive an attach from a borg cube. Type 7 phasers are no match to a borg cube !! The power of the writers I guess. They seem to forget the first encounter with the borg. Don't they adapt quickly to any weapon ?????
@Jim4575 how are u even comparing an intrepid class to the older crap ships like miranda excelsior etc...in addition voyagers weapons and shields were upgraded by a 29th century(dunno how to spell) borg drone,and seven of nine modified the shields after drak frontier,plus they used the hansons tech discovery to help them. so im guessing u dident watch the series.
@Jim4575 I'm thinking the reason why they adapted to Ent-D's weapons so easily is because the Borg beamed drones on and scanned a console in engineering to gain information about the ship. Then at Wolf 359 they had Picard/Locutus calling the shots, and he knew everything about the ships and their defenses and weapons. No such luck with Voyager.
@RedneckRapture Your right about wolf 359 and how the borg scanned the console. I felt they had enough knowledge to easily adapt to Voyagers weapons as they usually adapt after just a few hits. It only has type 8 phasers and 38 photon torpedoes. In one of the Trek books they adapted even to the transphasic torpedo. But it took a while.
@Jim4575 If I'm not mistaken, I may be since I haven't watched Voyager in a while, Voyager was continuously upgrading its weapons throughout the series to be able to deal with the Borg. That may have something to do with it.
@RedneckRapture They did some upgrades thanks to Seven and others, but I remember the 29th century drone who upgraded their weapons and it worked for a bit but they just adapted , he even states that he could only do limited upgrades as he could do anymore . So he went to the Sphere and destroyed from inside. I guess the writers wanted the show to continue so they made it possible for Voyager to get away some how. Good show too.
@Jim4575 Yes, but you have to remember that Starfleet would have learned from that encounter. I'm not supporting the Intrepid is a badass theory, but she would have been designed with eventual borg conflict in mind, which means her weapons systems would have seen an upgrade or two, including higher output per shot, with a freq modulation to allow her to fire off more shots before they adapted. So, in essence, she could survive longer. Add in the upgraded sheild system, and it makes sense.
@Jim4575 enough of this where do you come up this fan fiction crap. voyager does posses the same phasers as a galaxy class type 10 plus the creator of both ships said that they are almost of the same overall power one sacrifices speed for more resources (galaxy) the other lower resources but more speed and tech (intrepid). in addition voyager was constantly upgraded. end of story the writers provide u with the cannon info not the fans .what happens on screen is cannon not what u think or hope.
@miloootic Voyager doesn't have type 10 phasers only type 8 . Voyager was indeed fast but so is the Uss Aventine. Upgraded at the end sure, armour and transphasic torpedoes.The borg were still starting to adapt to that too.
@Jim4575 rick sternbak created both the galaxy and intrepid models and said that they have the same phasers and same overall power. u play too many video games. the games arent cannon.
@miloootic Ha! HA! HA LMAO !!! Video games !!! Afraid not .Funny !!! My computer wasn't meant for them even with a Q6600 only 512 mb video card. Granted he did both models , there phasers are of 2 different types (10) Galaxy (8) Intrepid. Same design but the Galaxy's are more powerful. Remember voyager is a scout ship. What you need is the Defiant class. Now that's power. No games aren't cannon !!! Books are better. :)
@Jim4575 scout is nova,obereth etc...not intrepid,thats an explorer it was never stated on screen light or so...its was stated to be the most advanced ship before the prometheus making it one of the strongest ships of the fleet.
@miloootic Oberth and Nova are SCIENCE vessals. Intrepid is a light explorer / scout. . One of the strongest fleet ? Are you kiddin' me, if so powerful then why did they use Excelsior and Miranda class against the Dominion ?? The Defiant and Akira class would be better then an Intrepid. Uss Aventine would put them all to shame. Ncc 82602. No it's not cannon. Ha! Ha!
@Jim4575 omg do you even read the star dates,there was only 3 intrepid ships during the dominion war 1 of them was lost in the delta quadrant leaving only 2...why not ask the question about the sovereign or the prometheus?why werent they involved in the dominion war? intrepid is far more powerful then excelsior or miranda nebula and akira,its clear from the way voyager did in the delta quadrant and all of those battles.nova or obereth were both refited for scouting or science.
@miloootic I would love to know why the Sovereign and Proetheus weren't in the Dominion war. Maybe they would have mopped the floor with the their superior weapons. I know there were only 2 Intrepids left . Intrepid would have been a better choice then Excelcior and Miranda , hell they seem to use them way to much. Why not more Nebula class , Arkira class and Defiant? Akira has 15 torpedoe tubes and type X phasers. Maybe with the transphasic torpedoes & armour I would give the edge to Voyager.
For very well known reason: Prometheus was prototype at time of war, as was Sovereign and they could not have been built in sufficient numbers quickly enough.
@Jim4575 How could 1 Sphere and Voyager destroy an entire Tactical Cube? I dont get it, that is not possible, then again, I don't remember the episodes, saw the voyager series so long ago, I forget what happened, did look like Voyager had some special type of amour system, ablative Armour I think its called, to resist the Borg Cubes
@MeatstickRob88 Well in that episode 7 of 9 was involved with unimatrix one and the borg didn't like it and started to invade it and return the drones to themselves. So the Sphere with Voyager was Captained by one of the borg from Unimatrix one. And yes it destroyed a Cube !
The amour was from a future Janeway from the 26th century she also gave them transphasic torpedoes. The torpedoes could take down a cube in one shot ! The amour was almost impenetrable . Google it.
@Jim4575 No, I don't have time for Trek, I will watch them all again one day, I was trying to watch the episodes on my xbox but I always get off track and stop watching for a while like I did Babylon 5, I like the shows but I don't know, just dont have the motivation sometimes to watch them all, still it does not seem possible that a Sphere could destroy it, I know the cube has that weak spot but it was a tactical cube and even then you need at least 30-40 fed ships to destroy 1 cube
@MeatstickRob88 Yes you do need 30 - 50 fed ships to destroy 1 cube. Yes it has a weak spot but I can't see how a starship with type 8 phasers and 40 photon torpedoes can do much damage to a Tactical Cube ! Aren't the Borg the ones who can adapt to most weapons except a transphasic torpedo at least for a time. Writers must have decided the fate of at least one cube.
@Jim4575 looks like i need to help you understand here too,type 10 phasers,and Voy never destroyed the tactical cube all they did was fire all there weapons and coz barely any damage, cause the cube was self destructed by the queen to demolish uni matrix 0 rogue sphere and Voy but they avoided the explosion last sec its not Voy who destroyed it so please stop criticizing without any arguments.
@miloootic I agree Voyager didn't destroy the Tactical Cube and there was a Sphere trying to help Voyager. Yes the Queen did self destruct the cube to eliminate Unimatrix O. No argument here. Merry Christmas from Canada !
@miloootic lol never mind... I do not know what the fuck i was thinking, my comment was meant for another video but it must have switched without me knowing........ dang youtube.
I do like the video, don't get me wrong. The music was great and the clips arranged very well.
I personally hate, though, how much weaker the Borg were in Voyager. It removed all sense of danger from their episodes once they suddenly became a constant enemy to have show up for an episode and gone at the end. When TNG was doing Borg they were insanely dangerous and you had a sense of desperation and futility. With Voyager it just wasn't there.
@Tyrium7798 it was completely unsustainable to make the Borg as powerful as they did in earlier series and movies! The Battle of Wolf 359? a single Borg cube destroyed like 30 federation ships? that's ridiculous! there has to at least be a chance of beating them! I think the story of Voyager being a single ship lost in space was great, but if they hadn't brought the strength of the Borg down to a reasonable level, they wouldn't have been able to use the Borg at all in the Voyager series!
Or they could have Voyager figure out how to get past. They don't NEED to shoot their way through, they can use intelligence to find out how to get through! Instead they decided to do it the easy way and just make a race that could beat them and than after that it was like they were brain dead.
@Tyrium7798 you must have missed most Voyager episodes....they were always thinking there way out of situations with the Borg! maybe my memory is slipping, but i cant recall an episode (except for Endgame) where Voyager single-handedly beat the Borg in a gun fight!
@Tyrium7798 You can't get past them, they were too overpowered to do that. The Borg's sensors would find them anywhere and they could intercept them anytime. Fighting their way through was the only option.
Also, I doubt the audience would enjoy a show about a bunch of spineless cowards who did nothing but run away or hide all the time.
Battlestar Galactica managed to do a good job of having a single ship on the run from a much more powerful force. I'm sure they could figure something out here.
@Tyrium7798 The Cylons weren't as overpowered as the Borg were in comparison to VOY, and NuBSG had lots of cannon fodder to sacrifice to the Cylons to keep them threatening.
@ShadowSonic2 It is a good example, though, of how to make a good "ship-on-the-run" feel. They already started that with Chakotay and Janeway disagreeing on how to handle it. They could have carried that through and made that more interesting instead of the post-episode-reset they did. And if you want an example more likely, how about Year of Hell? They could have really used that kind of feel as well.
@Tyrium7798 They reset YoH because there would've been no way for the show to continue on with the ship that damaged and they didn't have the money to keep changing ship designs or set designs. Maybe if the ship had a regeneration ability like Moya in Farscape did, so it usually would just heal itself they'd have done it more.
i really "liked" voyager ... but i can never forgive the producers for the way they killed the borg! til then the borg were a menace of immense proportions, with starfleet always afraid of one single cube entering their space and then came "scorpion" !!! which was the first and last voy-borg epsiode to be say okay, but beyond that ... sorry, but voyager and a sphere against a tactical cube ?!?? a normal one eliminated 40+ ships @ wold359, yet the tact-cube keeps firing at voyager to no effect :(
Any "big villain" has to be stupid, or things wouldn't last long. That's why the Borg aren't ever that serious. There's always a way out, no matter how powerful, smart and all-knowing the enemy is: ever wondered why villains didn't just put a bullet into Mr. Bonds head?
As for the ending scene... yeah. It's always been one of my favorite moments. While the ending as a whole seemed just like a quick way to end the show, the actual arrival "back home" felt special nonetheless.
Good collection. I admit that I did find it faintly amusing how the Borg ceased to be all that threatening in Voyager. I thought that they actually came up with a few decent stories involving them though.
Absolutely FANTASTIC! Really well put together, you couldn't have picked better scenes! This is defo going in my favourites! Nice one matey! Do some more!!!
The borg are much more advanced than anything the Federation has encountered. And if they sent a "million" cubes, then the show would be over, not very smart.
@Jessico76 Yeah, the writers created such a cool villian and then logic kicked in. If 1 cube can penetrate all of starfleet's defenses and almost assimilate Earth, why not send ummm.... 2 or 3 or 17? Having an enemy so advanced and resourceful would be like 18th century Europe fending off an attack from 21st century America. They Europeans might win a battle but the war was already over won the Americans decided to invade!
Because Borg like doing things EFFICIENTLY as it has been stated on numerous occassions and approach you proposing would be no EFFICIENT. Federation is *NOT* worth it.
@AnteyPL the amount of ships the borg have lost over the course of history due to the federation and they cant spare more then one cube? nah, especially considering they've done way more for way less
@AnteyPL i have a personal relationship with the borg queen, you don't, therefor your opinion is invalid, ever been to unimatrix 0, no? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT SCUM
2:25 isn't borg, it's the klingons.
benjaminmullin96 4 days ago
Borg became such pussies in Voyager.
blah979 2 weeks ago
@blah979 No they didn't. Voyager had improvements by Future Janeway. and During the Series Voyager itself learned To Adapt to some Borg weapons because of Seven of Nine's Knowlege. BORG ARE NOT PUSSIES
jeun3sih 2 weeks ago
@jeun3sih They turned the Borg from a really though apponent in STTNG into nothing more than a nuisance in Voyager. So right now the Borg are completely overmatched by Fed tech because of Janeway. So there no threat anymore. Which would make them pussies. Also I'm sure there's a few eps about when they didn't have much new tech and still did ok. No way that would happen in sttng.
blah979 2 weeks ago
@blah979 what episode was that ? lol stop making stuff up
miloootic 5 days ago
I agree with tomo0086
UberhaxorSmartypants 2 weeks ago
wiitch episode?
whynotbig 1 month ago
Best ever ship and crew :)
Hero87 1 month ago 4
voyager and ds9 were great, tng's good episodes and arc were few and far between and not very memorable. the most memorable was ro laren. ds9 had a lot going on and so did voyager(at least in the later seasons when they weren't exploring so much.
darkangel1179 1 month ago
@darkangel1179 TNG wanted to create stand alone episodes, apart from a few mini-sereies, you could pretty much watch it in any order. DS9 started like that but later looked at the success at B5 so they created a story arc. I guess Voyager is a mix they have many stand alone but always had a story arc timeline.
Baseshocks 1 month ago
@Baseshocks i can agree with that.
darkangel1179 1 month ago
very nicely done. :) what's the name of the song?
TheGuardianofAzarath 1 month ago
Nice
YamahaDan100 2 months ago
second time watching the show now ^_^ think its one of the best of the star trek series
007foppe 2 months ago
thats not even A battle its the Voyager going through the nebula killing everything in its way
TheStargatefan1000 3 months ago
Thank god, a stellar choice for a soundtrack instead of requiem for a twatting dream. Great work here!
TheDarkFrontier 3 months ago
@TheDarkFrontier yeah, but this video is breaking the first directive of STAR TREK videos on YouTube: Requiem for a dream MUST be the soundtrack! :-D
chreberle 3 months ago
0:40 The rare, not often-seen Borg Diamond! :D
2:08 The even more rare Borg Trapezoid, lol!
Toobulations 3 months ago
Well done! Call me crazy, but (and?...) I like to hear the fabricated "noises" you wouldn't even hear in space. lol Wish I could make this vid a screen saver...
QuickdrawandKabong 3 months ago
Boy, oh, boy, Voyager kicked butt in that episode!
enterprise160 3 months ago
EXCELLENT!! I always loved the Borg as an enemy race, but loved even more the creative ways the Federation had to use to destroy them. :)
TKVRPRJCT 3 months ago
Voyager was by far the best star trek and had the best crew.
tomo0086 3 months ago 11
@tomo0086 Are you trying to start a riot?... :)
QuickdrawandKabong 3 months ago
@tomo0086
Voyager was boderline retardet compared to TNG or DS9...
tehOGRE 1 month ago
@tehOGRE You're retarded if you can't even spell that... Voyager is the only thing that got most people into star trek besides walking around a boring ship all day with action in every like 1 in 5 episodes in TNG, Voyager had action in almost every episode and had brilliant characters as well. I liked the way they were lost in the delta quadrant as well. New species, new everything. It was by far the best star trek to date in my opinion and star trek is definitely opinion, I also loved TNG so...
tomo0086 1 month ago
@tomo0086 yup different shows, TNG is more character based. Also look at the times it started in the late 80's and was very expensive to do the CGI/stop motion they did with the ships. I grew up with TNG will always be my fav. By the time voyager came around they could have a battle every episode with the cheaper CGI costs.
Baseshocks 1 month ago
@tehOGRE Voyager introduce the latest technobabbles which TNG didn't have. Eg: it introduce nanorobot as weapons, introduce neural-network as the ship's computer core, introduce more ideas for holodeck use, add holographic doctor, add slipstream drive, and add transwarp conduit for the borg. Even if TNG is the best... it still doesn't have the latest sci-fi idea... :)
xponen 1 month ago
@xponen It was the latest ideas at the time, TNG started in the late 80's when computers were virtually non existent, as time went on and new Star Trek was created new ideas sprung, star trek did as it always did with its series, they looked at what is reality at that time and what is theoretically possible in the future by doing heavy research. P.S TNG pretty much created the touch screen :P. I-PAD or kindle is a copy of the TNG data pad.
Baseshocks 1 month ago
@xponen TNG still made more sense.
Idazmi7 3 weeks ago
@Idazmi7 TNG rely on too much mysticism for todays standard. eg: they had a god creature called Q, and human gene can transform us into animal, and far reachest of space bring you to amazing dimension where you can talk to dead loved one. TNG is really really outdated when compared to todays' standard.
xponen 3 weeks ago
@xponen Todays standard is KILL EVERYTHING LABLED "BADGUY"!!!
Like Flash Gordon from the 1930's.
Idazmi7 3 weeks ago
@xponen BSG relied on mysticism and philosophy as much TNG did, more really considering it was a fundamental part of the plot.
Tuberuser187 3 days ago
@tomo0086 Not according to the ratings.
Idazmi7 3 weeks ago
@tomo0086 Pfft BULLSHIT! It was good, but nowhere near the best.
RampantFury925 1 week ago
yeah great music. makes a change from the bloody 'requiem for a dream' crap you hear on almost all battle vids. good work!
Weepiest 3 months ago 3
Love it, love it, LOVE IT!
matei11 3 months ago
The music was well done. I liked the video as well. But we do not see any drones.
Bina
FrauIndian 4 months ago
Very nicely done! Excellent choice music choice too.
mco119 4 months ago 6
@mco119 Hi Thanks for the comment was just about to reply to your message about the song it's called 'My Name Is Lincoln' by Steve Jablonsky.
CBC7118 4 months ago
@CBC7118
Thanks for the quick reply, buddy. Appreciate it. And, again, nice work on this video.
mco119 4 months ago
great mash up of borg Vs Voyager, why didnt this show last longer than 7yrs i love voyager
colmanthony 5 months ago
Janeway didn't mind using force to get her point across and to protect her crew. Very Well written character, just like Picard.
101truthhurts 5 months ago
11 in 111 drones dislike this vid
evilpikachuover9000 5 months ago
This music to me really doesn't go well with the borg. This needs something more ominous.
darkmagic1701 5 months ago
Multiple cubes might been seen as an invasion force of which the Alpha Quadrant races would likely join together to stop.
Earth was an easy target the first cube was only barely destroyed and the second one had time traveling sphere was a backup plan.
Sending one cube the other species could deal with the threat after they'd done most the work for them, The Borg don't see the Alpha Quadrant races as a threat and they'll get to the alpha quadrant , Once they're done with the delta.
dawfydd 5 months ago
I love the video, great work doing it :)
Alfapiomega 6 months ago
that was great, thank you for that
trickmastermonkey 6 months ago
right people heres y the borg did not assimilate or destroy voyager ever since they saved 7 of 9 the queen woundnt allow it as she in her own way like 7 or 9 as her favrite u have to remember the darkfronter ep were the queen said to 7 that she allowed voyager to take her for the borg and turn her into a individual so the borg would know what it was like. and i know the opening of that ep was voyager being attack by a borg ship but voyager wanted the incounter to get the transwarpcoil.
wislerend 7 months ago
transphasic torpedoes phase through shields and armor before detonating deep within a target. the ablative armor is more mysterious as it looks to me to be some sort of advanced holgraphic technology like in the holo-decks.
theoretically we could build a similar weapon using relativistic pi mesons if you could produce enough of them. they, too, ignore energy and matter until they decay and produce a burst of gamma radiation and high speed particles.
adaje5 7 months ago
Clearly you didn't watch the same show , despite what the 29th century Borg did was in his own words limited . The Borg quickly adapted to his modifications , 7 just added Borg technology to the flyer .
The only time they were able beat the Borg was end game with armor and transphasic torpedoes.
Intrepid class is a scout ship / explorer .
Remember a Galaxy class ship Ncc -1701 d was cut to pieces after the Borg adapted to type 9 Phasers & photon torpedoes .
Even the Uss Aventine Ncc 8260
Jim4575 7 months ago
People keep saying borg are weak in voy etc need to wake up im pretty sure most of them dident even watch the series. how are u even comparing an intrepid class to the older crap ships like miranda excelsior at wolf359 in addition voyagers weapons and shields were upgraded by a 29th century(dunno how to spell) borg drone,and seven of nine modified the shields after drak frontier,plus they used the hansons tech and discovery to enhance the ships ability,as well as borg tech from ep the gift.
miloootic 7 months ago
@miloootic
Fair point - not to mention, that at her launch, Voyager already was most sophisticated ship in the fleet.
AnteyPL 6 months ago
what music is this from?
cb11082 7 months ago
Eh? Isn't this the Borg? What are the Klingons doing in here?
Empyreanabove 7 months ago
Still amusing how an Intrepid class ship could even survive an attach from a borg cube. Type 7 phasers are no match to a borg cube !! The power of the writers I guess. They seem to forget the first encounter with the borg. Don't they adapt quickly to any weapon ?????
Jim4575 7 months ago
@Jim4575 how are u even comparing an intrepid class to the older crap ships like miranda excelsior etc...in addition voyagers weapons and shields were upgraded by a 29th century(dunno how to spell) borg drone,and seven of nine modified the shields after drak frontier,plus they used the hansons tech discovery to help them. so im guessing u dident watch the series.
miloootic 7 months ago
@Jim4575 I'm thinking the reason why they adapted to Ent-D's weapons so easily is because the Borg beamed drones on and scanned a console in engineering to gain information about the ship. Then at Wolf 359 they had Picard/Locutus calling the shots, and he knew everything about the ships and their defenses and weapons. No such luck with Voyager.
RedneckRapture 6 months ago
@RedneckRapture Your right about wolf 359 and how the borg scanned the console. I felt they had enough knowledge to easily adapt to Voyagers weapons as they usually adapt after just a few hits. It only has type 8 phasers and 38 photon torpedoes. In one of the Trek books they adapted even to the transphasic torpedo. But it took a while.
Jim4575 6 months ago
@Jim4575 If I'm not mistaken, I may be since I haven't watched Voyager in a while, Voyager was continuously upgrading its weapons throughout the series to be able to deal with the Borg. That may have something to do with it.
RedneckRapture 6 months ago
@RedneckRapture They did some upgrades thanks to Seven and others, but I remember the 29th century drone who upgraded their weapons and it worked for a bit but they just adapted , he even states that he could only do limited upgrades as he could do anymore . So he went to the Sphere and destroyed from inside. I guess the writers wanted the show to continue so they made it possible for Voyager to get away some how. Good show too.
Jim4575 6 months ago
@RedneckRapture
Entire Federation did - first Cube inbound for Earth massacred fleet at Wolf 359, second only damaged some of the vessels.
AnteyPL 6 months ago
@Jim4575 Yes, but you have to remember that Starfleet would have learned from that encounter. I'm not supporting the Intrepid is a badass theory, but she would have been designed with eventual borg conflict in mind, which means her weapons systems would have seen an upgrade or two, including higher output per shot, with a freq modulation to allow her to fire off more shots before they adapted. So, in essence, she could survive longer. Add in the upgraded sheild system, and it makes sense.
hammerman6842 6 months ago
@Jim4575 enough of this where do you come up this fan fiction crap. voyager does posses the same phasers as a galaxy class type 10 plus the creator of both ships said that they are almost of the same overall power one sacrifices speed for more resources (galaxy) the other lower resources but more speed and tech (intrepid). in addition voyager was constantly upgraded. end of story the writers provide u with the cannon info not the fans .what happens on screen is cannon not what u think or hope.
miloootic 5 months ago
@miloootic Voyager doesn't have type 10 phasers only type 8 . Voyager was indeed fast but so is the Uss Aventine. Upgraded at the end sure, armour and transphasic torpedoes.The borg were still starting to adapt to that too.
Jim4575 5 months ago
@Jim4575 rick sternbak created both the galaxy and intrepid models and said that they have the same phasers and same overall power. u play too many video games. the games arent cannon.
miloootic 5 months ago
@miloootic Ha! HA! HA LMAO !!! Video games !!! Afraid not .Funny !!! My computer wasn't meant for them even with a Q6600 only 512 mb video card. Granted he did both models , there phasers are of 2 different types (10) Galaxy (8) Intrepid. Same design but the Galaxy's are more powerful. Remember voyager is a scout ship. What you need is the Defiant class. Now that's power. No games aren't cannon !!! Books are better. :)
Keep up the good work.
Jim4575 4 months ago
@Jim4575 books arent cannon and intrepid isent a scout ship its an explorer just like the galaxy.
miloootic 4 months ago
@miloootic Intrepid is a light explorer / scout . Period. No kidding books aren't cannon. !
Jim4575 4 months ago
@Jim4575 scout is nova,obereth etc...not intrepid,thats an explorer it was never stated on screen light or so...its was stated to be the most advanced ship before the prometheus making it one of the strongest ships of the fleet.
miloootic 4 months ago
@miloootic Oberth and Nova are SCIENCE vessals. Intrepid is a light explorer / scout. . One of the strongest fleet ? Are you kiddin' me, if so powerful then why did they use Excelsior and Miranda class against the Dominion ?? The Defiant and Akira class would be better then an Intrepid. Uss Aventine would put them all to shame. Ncc 82602. No it's not cannon. Ha! Ha!
Jim4575 4 months ago
@Jim4575 omg do you even read the star dates,there was only 3 intrepid ships during the dominion war 1 of them was lost in the delta quadrant leaving only 2...why not ask the question about the sovereign or the prometheus?why werent they involved in the dominion war? intrepid is far more powerful then excelsior or miranda nebula and akira,its clear from the way voyager did in the delta quadrant and all of those battles.nova or obereth were both refited for scouting or science.
miloootic 4 months ago
@miloootic I would love to know why the Sovereign and Proetheus weren't in the Dominion war. Maybe they would have mopped the floor with the their superior weapons. I know there were only 2 Intrepids left . Intrepid would have been a better choice then Excelcior and Miranda , hell they seem to use them way to much. Why not more Nebula class , Arkira class and Defiant? Akira has 15 torpedoe tubes and type X phasers. Maybe with the transphasic torpedoes & armour I would give the edge to Voyager.
Jim4575 4 months ago
@Jim4575
For very well known reason: Prometheus was prototype at time of war, as was Sovereign and they could not have been built in sufficient numbers quickly enough.
AnteyPL 4 months ago
@AnteyPL Yes you are quite correct. But they would have mopped the floor ! To bad. Maybe more Akira and Defiant would have been good.
Jim4575 4 months ago
@Jim4575
Wars do not start when everybody is ready for them; only when some are ready....
AnteyPL 4 months ago
@AnteyPL Well written and quite true.
Jim4575 4 months ago
@Jim4575 How could 1 Sphere and Voyager destroy an entire Tactical Cube? I dont get it, that is not possible, then again, I don't remember the episodes, saw the voyager series so long ago, I forget what happened, did look like Voyager had some special type of amour system, ablative Armour I think its called, to resist the Borg Cubes
MeatstickRob88 4 months ago
@MeatstickRob88 Well in that episode 7 of 9 was involved with unimatrix one and the borg didn't like it and started to invade it and return the drones to themselves. So the Sphere with Voyager was Captained by one of the borg from Unimatrix one. And yes it destroyed a Cube !
The amour was from a future Janeway from the 26th century she also gave them transphasic torpedoes. The torpedoes could take down a cube in one shot ! The amour was almost impenetrable . Google it.
Jim4575 4 months ago
@Jim4575 No, I don't have time for Trek, I will watch them all again one day, I was trying to watch the episodes on my xbox but I always get off track and stop watching for a while like I did Babylon 5, I like the shows but I don't know, just dont have the motivation sometimes to watch them all, still it does not seem possible that a Sphere could destroy it, I know the cube has that weak spot but it was a tactical cube and even then you need at least 30-40 fed ships to destroy 1 cube
MeatstickRob88 4 months ago
@MeatstickRob88 Yes you do need 30 - 50 fed ships to destroy 1 cube. Yes it has a weak spot but I can't see how a starship with type 8 phasers and 40 photon torpedoes can do much damage to a Tactical Cube ! Aren't the Borg the ones who can adapt to most weapons except a transphasic torpedo at least for a time. Writers must have decided the fate of at least one cube.
Jim4575 4 months ago
@Jim4575 8472
TheStargatefan1000 3 months ago
@Jim4575 looks like i need to help you understand here too,type 10 phasers,and Voy never destroyed the tactical cube all they did was fire all there weapons and coz barely any damage, cause the cube was self destructed by the queen to demolish uni matrix 0 rogue sphere and Voy but they avoided the explosion last sec its not Voy who destroyed it so please stop criticizing without any arguments.
miloootic 2 months ago
@miloootic I agree Voyager didn't destroy the Tactical Cube and there was a Sphere trying to help Voyager. Yes the Queen did self destruct the cube to eliminate Unimatrix O. No argument here. Merry Christmas from Canada !
Jim4575 2 months ago
@miloootic first ive heard of this.... why did they not add that in the show.....
Baseshocks 1 month ago
@Baseshocks your talking about what type 10 phasers?
miloootic 1 month ago
@miloootic lol never mind... I do not know what the fuck i was thinking, my comment was meant for another video but it must have switched without me knowing........ dang youtube.
Baseshocks 1 month ago
@MeatstickRob88 Didn't the cube self destruct?
tomo0086 3 months ago
Voyager is a tough little ship.
Uberdude25 8 months ago
@Uberdude25 Yep Intrepids are beasts on STO XD
Dragonitlas 8 months ago
@Uberdude25 Yeah somehow it can fight ships that destroy entire fleets of federation starships. Power of the script, I guess.
Azakhiel 8 months ago
what episode is 1:04
sylar2a 8 months ago
wow i loved it
bigdaddy1976 8 months ago
Where is the music from can't think where I've heard it before
ben4maggie 8 months ago
I love that episode where janeway looks out the window sees a borg cube and orders a gtfo order.
SVWillmer 10 months ago
The Voyagers story is so epic and it kicks so much ass. Warding off and destryoing whole Borg-Ships just by itself.
The biggest Borg-Ships can destroy 2 or 3 earth-federation ships from the biggest class as well.
DunkleMaterie117 10 months ago
I do like the video, don't get me wrong. The music was great and the clips arranged very well.
I personally hate, though, how much weaker the Borg were in Voyager. It removed all sense of danger from their episodes once they suddenly became a constant enemy to have show up for an episode and gone at the end. When TNG was doing Borg they were insanely dangerous and you had a sense of desperation and futility. With Voyager it just wasn't there.
Tyrium7798 11 months ago
@Tyrium7798 it was completely unsustainable to make the Borg as powerful as they did in earlier series and movies! The Battle of Wolf 359? a single Borg cube destroyed like 30 federation ships? that's ridiculous! there has to at least be a chance of beating them! I think the story of Voyager being a single ship lost in space was great, but if they hadn't brought the strength of the Borg down to a reasonable level, they wouldn't have been able to use the Borg at all in the Voyager series!
devajeaco07 10 months ago
@devajeaco07
Or they could have Voyager figure out how to get past. They don't NEED to shoot their way through, they can use intelligence to find out how to get through! Instead they decided to do it the easy way and just make a race that could beat them and than after that it was like they were brain dead.
Tyrium7798 10 months ago
@Tyrium7798 you must have missed most Voyager episodes....they were always thinking there way out of situations with the Borg! maybe my memory is slipping, but i cant recall an episode (except for Endgame) where Voyager single-handedly beat the Borg in a gun fight!
devajeaco07 10 months ago
@devajeaco07
They didn't exactly run away from them either.
Tyrium7798 9 months ago
@Tyrium7798 You can't get past them, they were too overpowered to do that. The Borg's sensors would find them anywhere and they could intercept them anytime. Fighting their way through was the only option.
Also, I doubt the audience would enjoy a show about a bunch of spineless cowards who did nothing but run away or hide all the time.
ShadowSonic2 9 months ago
@ShadowSonic2
Battlestar Galactica managed to do a good job of having a single ship on the run from a much more powerful force. I'm sure they could figure something out here.
Tyrium7798 8 months ago
@Tyrium7798 The Cylons weren't as overpowered as the Borg were in comparison to VOY, and NuBSG had lots of cannon fodder to sacrifice to the Cylons to keep them threatening.
ShadowSonic2 8 months ago
@ShadowSonic2 It is a good example, though, of how to make a good "ship-on-the-run" feel. They already started that with Chakotay and Janeway disagreeing on how to handle it. They could have carried that through and made that more interesting instead of the post-episode-reset they did. And if you want an example more likely, how about Year of Hell? They could have really used that kind of feel as well.
Tyrium7798 8 months ago
@Tyrium7798 They reset YoH because there would've been no way for the show to continue on with the ship that damaged and they didn't have the money to keep changing ship designs or set designs. Maybe if the ship had a regeneration ability like Moya in Farscape did, so it usually would just heal itself they'd have done it more.
ShadowSonic2 8 months ago
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DejanStarWars 9 months ago
yeah!, I tend to think the same as dspikey, but I find this music goes kinda good with this video. But hey... thats just me.
Ticonderoga444 1 year ago
i really "liked" voyager ... but i can never forgive the producers for the way they killed the borg! til then the borg were a menace of immense proportions, with starfleet always afraid of one single cube entering their space and then came "scorpion" !!! which was the first and last voy-borg epsiode to be say okay, but beyond that ... sorry, but voyager and a sphere against a tactical cube ?!?? a normal one eliminated 40+ ships @ wold359, yet the tact-cube keeps firing at voyager to no effect :(
Medhiv83 1 year ago 2
1:25 to 1:36 is one of my favorite shots of Voyager.
mgospeed31 1 year ago
i'm confused why weren't the borg able to adapt to species 8472
Qwerty48121 1 year ago
@Qwerty48121
According to the episode, the Species 8472 immune response was stronger than the nanites.
Boy75402 1 year ago
The music they took for scorpion is amazing. You should have included that theme.
NickeyWhitfield 1 year ago
Any "big villain" has to be stupid, or things wouldn't last long. That's why the Borg aren't ever that serious. There's always a way out, no matter how powerful, smart and all-knowing the enemy is: ever wondered why villains didn't just put a bullet into Mr. Bonds head?
As for the ending scene... yeah. It's always been one of my favorite moments. While the ending as a whole seemed just like a quick way to end the show, the actual arrival "back home" felt special nonetheless.
Syndur 1 year ago
Good collection. I admit that I did find it faintly amusing how the Borg ceased to be all that threatening in Voyager. I thought that they actually came up with a few decent stories involving them though.
thegreenmanofnorwich 1 year ago
Star trek voyager is best then ds9
danutzzz2064 2 years ago
whats with the music I hate the way people put songs to the vids instead of just uploading the clips
dspikey 2 years ago 25
If you want to see clips with the original sound then upload them yourself. Its that simple.
Jessico76 2 years ago
@dspikey Yeah no shit. original audio plz
Sunburn2007 9 months ago
@Sunburn2007 Please. that soundtrack was amazing. it was ten times as good as the original audio
HiveshipCommander 9 months ago
@HiveshipCommander lololz
Sunburn2007 9 months ago
This has been flagged as spam show
@dspikey Then dont watch them, its that simple!
Jessico76 6 months ago
Absolutely FANTASTIC! Really well put together, you couldn't have picked better scenes! This is defo going in my favourites! Nice one matey! Do some more!!!
NetworkRave 2 years ago
Great job, well done! love the music too.
robinkane1 2 years ago
i love the music...where is it from? also the ending scene is badass
banjoboybest1 2 years ago 2
The songs called My Name is Lincoln by Steve Jablonsky
it's the soundtrack from the film The Island.
CBC7118 2 years ago 3
@CBC7118 I really like the original soundtrack from the episode "the dark frontier". Have you got that?
NickeyWhitfield 1 year ago
@NickeyWhitfield Sorry to say i don't have it.
CBC7118 1 year ago
@CBC7118 You made an excellent choice for this vid. It Totally fits the way the clips were made
HiveshipCommander 9 months ago
the idea of the borg are stupid it takes the entire star fleet fleet to kill one cube why not just send a million cubes there done
brennanww 2 years ago 7
The borg are much more advanced than anything the Federation has encountered. And if they sent a "million" cubes, then the show would be over, not very smart.
Jessico76 2 years ago
@Jessico76 Yeah, the writers created such a cool villian and then logic kicked in. If 1 cube can penetrate all of starfleet's defenses and almost assimilate Earth, why not send ummm.... 2 or 3 or 17? Having an enemy so advanced and resourceful would be like 18th century Europe fending off an attack from 21st century America. They Europeans might win a battle but the war was already over won the Americans decided to invade!
liptonBlueBirdAdd 1 year ago
@brennanww
Because Borg like doing things EFFICIENTLY as it has been stated on numerous occassions and approach you proposing would be no EFFICIENT. Federation is *NOT* worth it.
AnteyPL 6 months ago
@AnteyPL the amount of ships the borg have lost over the course of history due to the federation and they cant spare more then one cube? nah, especially considering they've done way more for way less
brennanww 6 months ago
@brennanww
They CAN spare more than one cube; they JUST DON'T SEE IS AS AS WORTHY.
AnteyPL 6 months ago
@AnteyPL i have a personal relationship with the borg queen, you don't, therefor your opinion is invalid, ever been to unimatrix 0, no? THATS WHAT I THOUGHT SCUM
brennanww 6 months ago
@brennanww
Godwin's Law FTW :-)
AnteyPL 6 months ago
@brennanww because they need the other cubes to resistence against the voyager ^^ just a joke i think you are right
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