they are so genius playing live...awesome band. im proud to be that kind of person that appreciates their music.. and good music in general. general good music *i salute you* and thank u again THE CURE
man, their drummer really cant catch a break with all the people who are being nostalgic. The drums aren't sloppy. If you listen to the one in Orange you'll notice the only thing that is somewhat intact of the way they played it almost 30 years ago is the bass line.
The Cure are aware their musique may be a little too challenging for some (e.g. USA). But always thrive to reach-out to a wider audience in their quest to enlighten and change the life of many for the better of us all! Here a sublety was introcuced so that would you know when to clap your hands and feel the groove and become one (eventually) with the rest of us.
Dear everyone. The Cure wanted Cooper to play the drums in their band! You're all fans of them which means you like their music...Who's the one with musical knowledge? Robert + The Cure! Just accept the fact that Cooper's a member of the band now. Message to all the haters: a big middle finger! :)
@phantomlord91 thank you so much! It's about time someone spoke up and let those "fan" know that there is a reason why Jason is in this band.. ROBERT SMITH WANTED HIM!...and loved the message to the haters. I agree and hope they choke on their "bring Boris back brigade!"
@Karynica They should care about music instead...Some people can't handle changes in persons...Jason is a good drummer and a cool person aswel! Some people are so pathetic for doing such shite as a Bring Boris Back Brigade -__-' Robert is just a perfectionist and if he can't cope with someone then why should he keep him in the band O_o it could mean the end...Same thing happened to Celtic Frost (metal band)
@phantomlord91 thank you. Finally someone who understands my point of view. Jason has been with The Cure since 1995 and people keep calling him "new". Jason is a good drummer and I get so tired of the people who put him down. He isn't weak or sloppy as others have stated. You are right about Robert. He is a perfectionist and to add he has been the only continuing member of The Cure. His band, his call. Thanks again Phantomlord91. :)
@Karynica True to all your words Karynica! Someone who's been in a band for 15 years isn't new...I seriously don't understand why...He's an excelent drummer! Without him a large amount of classic songs didn't even excist! He joined somewhere between the "Wish" album and "Wild Mood Swings" I thought...Well I'm terribly sorry but Bloodflowers is one of the most awesome new-era albums in my opinion! :) The Cure did a good deed in bringing Jason to the band. Amen.
@phantomlord91 you can say that all you want but the fact remains that Borris was, is and will always be the better drummer. I agree you have to accept it but you don't have to blind to it and pretend something is what it isn't.
@Hallucination what makes Boris the better drummer? Exactly what can you pinpoint that makes Jason sloppy and weak as these others have described Jason? I really want to know why Boris is considered the better drummer? Give me an example....if you can
Hahaha... Porl's got to use the biggest guitar pedal board ever. And yes... what I dislike the most about Jason Cooper are the thin sounds, especially on the snare. The Cure need BIG BIG BIG sounds...
nothing wrong with drummer. It sounds like a pre-record drum beat they mixed in. not williams but not awful..smitty would dump him if he thought he wasn't doing the job.
Since Jason joined the band, The Cure went downhill more and more... he abuses the f*cking pre recorded percussion sounds!!! he SUCKS.. THE WORST ROCK DRUMMER IN THE BUSINESS!!!!!!!!
@dwnunder90 Jason abuses the pre-recorded percussion? How? Robert decides what is going to be played and how. If Robert likes the pre-recorded percussion, then it's Robert's word. Sorry wannabe Cure fans, but Robert is pretty much THE CURE. What he says goes. Jason is not the worst in the business or he wouldn't be playing for The Cure
@Karynica Sorry for you but I'm not a wannabe fan, I'm a fan since 1985 so I know way better than you. Pre-recorded shit began with Jason's arrival and that's confirmed by Roger himself! so, Cure newbie fan, you'd better shut up and enjoy your limited drummer.
@dwnunder90 LOL 1985? you are the wannabe. I have been following The Cure since they began in 1979 when Killing an Arab came out. Limited drummer? Read the headlines. Who is still with them? Why do you think Robert is always laughing and cutting up with Jason? Cause he doesn't like his style? lol You don't even pay attention, so go pound sand. It's about all you know.
@Karynica - I agree with you about the Cooper, the BBB (Bring Boris Back) campaign`s a dead issue, but you get the feeling that Smith`s a bit of a tyrant at heart from all the throwing people out & then bringing them back that goes on with T.C.`s line-up : /
@kcirdrab yes I agree that Robert is a bit of a tyrant. He has stated in interviews that he is a perfectionist and expects only the best. It's his call and I guess the others have to follow that call. The man who writes the music gets to make the calls, so to speak :) and yes, nothing better than hearing them play. It's absolutely entrancing :)
I think this sounds better than the one in 1986. WAY better. The bass, the drumming in the first 30 seconds, and the guitar. It sounds better. Sue me.
@amigajenni So what if I am a Robert Smith groupie? Is that your business? You call yourself a Cure fan? I think not. Bloody, hell you are the type of people that make this forum boring. Get over it.
@Karynica I call myself an 'inteligent Cure fan'. I'm on the side of fans who can think and knows that Robert is human and makes mistakes and give an opinion about that. Read your first post and notice you accept everything Robert gives you haha... too bad.
@amigajenni you call yourself an intelligent Cure fan? How old are you? probably about 20. I have been listening to The Cure since the 80's. You call people groupies and complain about what they have to say here? Give it a break. You are not a Cure fan because a real Cure fan doesn't berate other Cure fans. Go look up the word berate...probably too hard of word for you to understand...and where the hell did Karynica say that Robert Smith is perfect? You read things into posts.
@amigajenni perhaps you didn't understand what I meant when I said "if it's ok with Robert". Robert is known to be very picky about The Cure's sound. He is, after all, what most people consider THE CURE. I never said Robert was perfect, it's the fact that he is PICKY about The Cure's sound. You should already know this being an "intelligent Cure fan". Guess you aren't as intelligent about The Cure as you think.
it's not that Jason is sloppy and weak... it's that there is a cheesy-ass programmed beat going and he has to play over top of it. This song has always had sort of an out-of-time drum beat. Plus, STOP calling him "the new drummer" - he has been in the band for 15 years now. Boris was in for 10. Jason is the longest tenured DRUMMER in the Cure's history. Lol didn;t play drums the whole time, and hell, even he was only in the band for 12 years. So yeah. Blame Robert and his desire to sequence.
that horrible background sound is ruining the song! was it jason's idea? i've noticed he has added extra percussion sounds that do nothing for the songs!
@The1ne07 What happened is, after 1997, Robert decided that they needed to play almost EVERY SINGLE SONG with prerecorded backing tracks. At least, this is per Roger. Some of the songs sound good, don;t get me wrong... but stuff like this is just a failed effort, IMHO, which I'm sure Mr. Smith could give two fucks about, despite the fact that I have been a loyal fan and they have been my fave band for 23 years now... I just think that the backing tracks Idea sort of screwed the pooch a little.
I am a big cure fan, but does anyone else think after they made there Wish album in 92 the sound has changed drastically. maybe it's Boris leavin?porl gone over those years? just wish they would have this sound again or better yet the disintegration magic.. (hard to beat that one).. just my opinion..
I think The Cure has changed their rhythms a lot, because the great Boris decided to leave the band. And have changed their sound because the producer Dave M. Allen is not working with them anymore.
I just can't get enough of this video!!! I must have seen it 30 times today. Thank you so much for posting it! I've seen The Cure in concert twice and I can hardly wait 'till they start touring again..The greatest band ever!!! Love you Robert!
you are a good man defending jason... but he really doesn't fit The Cure which needs more creativity and the addition of those sounds in the background is just unbearable.
sure they may not be the same as before,, but who really are? if you really like to see them at there prime take a look at live at orange or show.. but I am still glad to see them and put these other groups in there plade.. long live the cure!!
@nosmosisprod I agree with you but I think they sounded pretty good live until Robert fired Perry and Roger, and the inclusion of Porl only brought lame performances...also in studio, 4-13 dream was a complete desilution... I miss the KBDS and all that the cure was until 2005
May be but what if Roger played keyboards on 4.13 dream?...It would be completelly differant...or what if there was some fucking keyboard on the album?...or what if there wasnt that fucking hendrix rock guitar sound Porl gave to the tracks?
is somebody really listening to the drums? they are played perfectly!!... is just the sound loop that doesnt let us hear it that good. jason is an excellent drummer... make an effort and listen carefully only the drums... they are play perfect!!
Twra an upologiseis pws sta 30 xronia tous erxontai edw ana 5-etia & pws teleutaia fora pou mas episkefthkan htan to '05,e tote...nomizw pws erxetai h wra!
I don't think Jason is the worst drummer in the Cure's history. There once was a guy name Lol Tolhurst,He couldn't play an instrument even though the band hired someone to teach him!
Okay, Jason is a fairly average drummer, but he does not deserve the shit that you 'fans' give him. The only real reason most of you want Boris back is so that it can be as close to the origonal lineup as possible, then you want to bring back the keyboards and only hear them play their old stuff. Because you don't want the cure to progress musically, you just like how they used to sound.
Well I think Jason as no creativity to be a Cure drummer; I usually wonder who played drums in that great record from 2004 I read that Porl Thompson hanged out with them in the studio back then...was any-one else there that we didn´t know!!!!????. Now if Boris doesnt return Robert is stuck with Jason. I believe that any of these would be a good replacement BUDGIE, KEVIN HASKINS and JIMMY CHAMBERLIN. I prefer BUDGIE is technique is flawless and he is creative... but different from Boris.
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I agree. Jason is the weakest point in this incredible band. The Cure deserves a real drummer with similar musical influences to those of the other guys. Robert, Simon & Porl were in the best year of the band, but Jason gets in the way. He must be fired and a real drummer should take the job ASAP.
BTW, Roger said no long ago, that Boris is the best drummer he's worked with and the crappy background sounds began with the arrival of Jason...
Porl thought he was playing for Marilyn Manson....LOL...I think Jason is an ok average drummer, but they do need to bring the keyboards back...it is not the same!
Robert made a bad decision to hire Jason as the drummer for his band. He is so musically limited and it shows. Also he is just Roberts' 'Yes-man', a guy with no personality.
I am a fan since 1985 and I can say that jason is the worst drummer in the history of The Cure.
The Cure declined when Boris Williams, the drummer, left the band.
Jason relies a lot on these pre-recorded sh*t that spoils everything.
Jason´s style is bad, his sound is weak, poor and bad, he always looks nervous and boring.
In more than 14 years with the band, could jason compose any memorable DRUM INTRO or DRUM PATTERN? of course not! compare to the intros in JLH or WCIBY, the drum pattern in Last Dance beats ANY jason ´pattern´. That is because he is just a timekeeper with a metronome
I almost went on a tirade about you being silly, then I remembered this is the internet, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So I'll let you admire Boris from afar, and I'll ask you to please stop posting on every cure song you find that you like Boris. You don't have to. Heck, I won't even notice if you don't since I normally don't have the comments open.
god i love this song to death, but im not really feeling this "revamp". The guitar is too over-driven and you cant make out all the great nuances of the lead line. The bass still sounds amazing as ever.
Jason is a pretty good drummer, and overall, cure style, the drumming is so simplistic, so give him a fucking break. He's just as good. It's only the drum loops that sound like crap.
God....i was there that night and this song rocked my up into the sky outside of MSG and into the NYC sky line!!!!!!! Made my heart wanna burst.....jumpin up and down and lost my voice for a week!!!!!! Wooooooo!!! :)
I actually really dig his new look :D if you can look that good when you're a middle-aged bald man AND play guitar like he does you're pretty awesome. He does use a lot of effects!
Drums are fine, it's just a different version of the song to the album. If you look at the live version in '05 it is not the same as this and doesn't have the drum loop. Seriously, Jason is fine, he isn't ruining the Cure.
Bob`s RIF on this song is so amazing.
GhostsInMyAttic 9 hours ago
my best song of Cure !!!!
adel1209 18 hours ago
I love Simon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tecpan101 1 month ago
THIS LIVE IS AMAZING AAAH
yuionanodesuyo 2 months ago
I'm surprised about the drummer ... i prefer boris williams but this drum line is amazing.
aNoNewSound 2 months ago
1:23 Robert admires Simon's bass playing :)
airwave089 2 months ago
I was there is great, too much energy!!!
Rupelstinski68 3 months ago
I think that techno drum shit sounds cool.
astorianstigmata 3 months ago
Jason generally sounds dull (and weaker than Boris), but I can't hear what's wrong with him in this song? He kicks butt here.
maboleth 6 months ago
they are so genius playing live...awesome band. im proud to be that kind of person that appreciates their music.. and good music in general. general good music *i salute you* and thank u again THE CURE
illdieyoung 6 months ago
TRE-MEN-DOOOOOOO...!!!!!!!
eldarioche 6 months ago
well boris williams was my favorite, but jason isnt that bad
christianb44 6 months ago
This sounds good.
JRCrowley 7 months ago
Jason Cooper looks a little like Peter North
mrpicky510 7 months ago 3
robert smiths such a cool dude ..wish he was my neighbor :)
therealrockondon 7 months ago
Their Schecter guitars are awesome!.
cidodido 7 months ago
@cidodido Robert decided to drop them in favour of his original guitars. Hardcore fans seems to hate Schecters anyway...
gnzvideos 7 months ago
Jason is the weakest (less talented) member of the band.
All of the past drummers (including Lawrence Tolhurst) were more creative and had better sound in studio and live!
gnzvideos 8 months ago
No, no, no... My ears! It's not the Cure. It's kinda plastic-automatic-Viva-pink-like Cure.
Skorrigan 8 months ago
They have a huge sound even without the keys and compressed as hell.
arachnodenet 9 months ago
Simon's bass is just immortal...
DizzyPuke 9 months ago 9
@DizzyPuke I know he is just tearing up the bass lines it is truly incredible.
GhostsInMyAttic 19 hours ago
new? he is the longuest drummer oh the band.
sylvainronat 10 months ago 2
this drummer sounded fine all the other songs from this show, i just can't stand the the effect they're looping it through on this one in particular
ouackstrax 10 months ago
man, their drummer really cant catch a break with all the people who are being nostalgic. The drums aren't sloppy. If you listen to the one in Orange you'll notice the only thing that is somewhat intact of the way they played it almost 30 years ago is the bass line.
morelgungo 10 months ago 5
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johhnyhennessy1 11 months ago
The Cure are aware their musique may be a little too challenging for some (e.g. USA). But always thrive to reach-out to a wider audience in their quest to enlighten and change the life of many for the better of us all! Here a sublety was introcuced so that would you know when to clap your hands and feel the groove and become one (eventually) with the rest of us.
realymail 11 months ago
PINCHE BATERISTA CULERO...........HIZO MIERDA LO MEJOR DE LA ROLA
LORDAVICHO 1 year ago
@LORDAVICHO de acuerdo guey!
sunreynyc 1 year ago
@LORDAVICHO
ESTOY DE ACUERDO CONTIGO, NO ENTIENDO POR QUE JASON CONTINUA EN THE CURE, Y MAS CUANDO SIEMPRE TUVIERON FAMA DE SER MUY BUENOS EN VIVO.
flachevath33 10 months ago
just wanted to say this video is awesome and Jason is the best drummer The Cure have ever had and a big hello to Mark!!!!!!!!!!!!! Miss you
Karynica 1 year ago
the cure the best gothic group..........love the band along time ago
Isavamp1 1 year ago
Nessuna band al mondo come i Cure riesce a mettermi la pelle d'oca nelle sue canzoni!
DVNGLC73 1 year ago
Dear everyone. The Cure wanted Cooper to play the drums in their band! You're all fans of them which means you like their music...Who's the one with musical knowledge? Robert + The Cure! Just accept the fact that Cooper's a member of the band now. Message to all the haters: a big middle finger! :)
phantomlord91 1 year ago 2
@phantomlord91 thank you so much! It's about time someone spoke up and let those "fan" know that there is a reason why Jason is in this band.. ROBERT SMITH WANTED HIM!...and loved the message to the haters. I agree and hope they choke on their "bring Boris back brigade!"
Karynica 1 year ago
@Karynica They should care about music instead...Some people can't handle changes in persons...Jason is a good drummer and a cool person aswel! Some people are so pathetic for doing such shite as a Bring Boris Back Brigade -__-' Robert is just a perfectionist and if he can't cope with someone then why should he keep him in the band O_o it could mean the end...Same thing happened to Celtic Frost (metal band)
phantomlord91 1 year ago 2
@phantomlord91 thank you. Finally someone who understands my point of view. Jason has been with The Cure since 1995 and people keep calling him "new". Jason is a good drummer and I get so tired of the people who put him down. He isn't weak or sloppy as others have stated. You are right about Robert. He is a perfectionist and to add he has been the only continuing member of The Cure. His band, his call. Thanks again Phantomlord91. :)
Karynica 1 year ago
@Karynica True to all your words Karynica! Someone who's been in a band for 15 years isn't new...I seriously don't understand why...He's an excelent drummer! Without him a large amount of classic songs didn't even excist! He joined somewhere between the "Wish" album and "Wild Mood Swings" I thought...Well I'm terribly sorry but Bloodflowers is one of the most awesome new-era albums in my opinion! :) The Cure did a good deed in bringing Jason to the band. Amen.
phantomlord91 1 year ago
@phantomlord91 you can say that all you want but the fact remains that Borris was, is and will always be the better drummer. I agree you have to accept it but you don't have to blind to it and pretend something is what it isn't.
Hallucination 1 year ago
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Karynica 1 year ago
@Hallucination what makes Boris the better drummer? Exactly what can you pinpoint that makes Jason sloppy and weak as these others have described Jason? I really want to know why Boris is considered the better drummer? Give me an example....if you can
Karynica 1 year ago
I più grandi...
ennegramma 1 year ago
The best band of the world!!!!!!!!!!
rungholt 1 year ago 2
who else is playing guitar with robert???
PrisonBreakFilms 1 year ago
@PrisonBreakFilms it's Porl Thompson
themechengi420 1 year ago
@PrisonBreakFilms it's Porl Thompson He was acually married to Roberts sister and they got like 4 or 5 kids together
themechengi420 1 year ago
Nothing better than hearing Smith & the boys just jamin : )
kcirdrab 1 year ago
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kcirdrab 1 year ago
Hahaha... Porl's got to use the biggest guitar pedal board ever. And yes... what I dislike the most about Jason Cooper are the thin sounds, especially on the snare. The Cure need BIG BIG BIG sounds...
SimulacronX 1 year ago
just a sample of excellence... LOVE IT!!!!
adrischvartz 1 year ago
Dreamin about that day when The Cure will come to Russia.....
Yalter777 1 year ago
Beautiful song, one of my fav cure songs, but in my opinion this is the worst live version ever listened......however i'm still a loyal fan.
nel5418 1 year ago
nothing wrong with drummer. It sounds like a pre-record drum beat they mixed in. not williams but not awful..smitty would dump him if he thought he wasn't doing the job.
stugats1 1 year ago
начало супер! а потом шляпа какая-то!
Eurosturm 1 year ago
Since Jason joined the band, The Cure went downhill more and more... he abuses the f*cking pre recorded percussion sounds!!! he SUCKS.. THE WORST ROCK DRUMMER IN THE BUSINESS!!!!!!!!
dwnunder90 1 year ago
@dwnunder90 hell yeah
UnitedStatesOfPariah 1 year ago
@dwnunder90 Jason abuses the pre-recorded percussion? How? Robert decides what is going to be played and how. If Robert likes the pre-recorded percussion, then it's Robert's word. Sorry wannabe Cure fans, but Robert is pretty much THE CURE. What he says goes. Jason is not the worst in the business or he wouldn't be playing for The Cure
Karynica 1 year ago
@Karynica Sorry for you but I'm not a wannabe fan, I'm a fan since 1985 so I know way better than you. Pre-recorded shit began with Jason's arrival and that's confirmed by Roger himself! so, Cure newbie fan, you'd better shut up and enjoy your limited drummer.
dwnunder90 1 year ago
@dwnunder90 LOL 1985? you are the wannabe. I have been following The Cure since they began in 1979 when Killing an Arab came out. Limited drummer? Read the headlines. Who is still with them? Why do you think Robert is always laughing and cutting up with Jason? Cause he doesn't like his style? lol You don't even pay attention, so go pound sand. It's about all you know.
Karynica 1 year ago
@Karynica - I agree with you about the Cooper, the BBB (Bring Boris Back) campaign`s a dead issue, but you get the feeling that Smith`s a bit of a tyrant at heart from all the throwing people out & then bringing them back that goes on with T.C.`s line-up : /
kcirdrab 1 year ago
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kcirdrab 1 year ago
@kcirdrab yes I agree that Robert is a bit of a tyrant. He has stated in interviews that he is a perfectionist and expects only the best. It's his call and I guess the others have to follow that call. The man who writes the music gets to make the calls, so to speak :) and yes, nothing better than hearing them play. It's absolutely entrancing :)
Karynica 1 year ago 3
@dwnunder90 oh and Jason has been with The Cure since 1995. You need to shut up and sit down wannabe. You don't know much about this group
Karynica 1 year ago
THE WORST DRUMMER IN THE CURE'S HISTORY!
vecinodelince 1 year ago
@vecinodelince yes, even lol was better (marginally)
kpuc1973 1 year ago
the one in orange was the best, but not because of the drums tbh. I prefer the heavier guitar over the more synthesized sound. this is amazing tho.
morelgungo 1 year ago
Che dire.... Cooper riesce a devastare i miei migliori ricordi
abcdille 1 year ago
They're about 2 clicks short of a horn section. OVERDONE!
freewill911 1 year ago
@freewill911 yeah, and yer 2 hits short of the floor! rock on you middle-age machines, show em how it's done!
standfastpunks 1 year ago
I think this sounds better than the one in 1986. WAY better. The bass, the drumming in the first 30 seconds, and the guitar. It sounds better. Sue me.
xBlAcKrAiN95x 1 year ago
So much bitching about Jason, and you're missing out Simon's fantastic bass lines.
mcol3 1 year ago
@mcol3 As I've said before, he's a metronome. Yep Boris was better. So what? Good call.
pipperoooo 1 year ago
if Jason wants to add extra drumming and percussion to this song when played live and Robert doesn't mind, then why the complaining? Get over it.
Karynica 1 year ago
@Karynica You are the kind of fan that spoils everthing. Have you heard about 'groupies" :)
amigajenni 1 year ago
@amigajenni so what if I am a Cure groupie. You are what? a fan of The Cure? I think not with your attitude. Get over it.
Karynica 1 year ago
@amigajenni So what if I am a Robert Smith groupie? Is that your business? You call yourself a Cure fan? I think not. Bloody, hell you are the type of people that make this forum boring. Get over it.
Karynica 1 year ago
@Karynica I call myself an 'inteligent Cure fan'. I'm on the side of fans who can think and knows that Robert is human and makes mistakes and give an opinion about that. Read your first post and notice you accept everything Robert gives you haha... too bad.
BTW, this is not a forum! :)
amigajenni 1 year ago
@amigajenni you call yourself an intelligent Cure fan? How old are you? probably about 20. I have been listening to The Cure since the 80's. You call people groupies and complain about what they have to say here? Give it a break. You are not a Cure fan because a real Cure fan doesn't berate other Cure fans. Go look up the word berate...probably too hard of word for you to understand...and where the hell did Karynica say that Robert Smith is perfect? You read things into posts.
Karen62906 1 year ago
@amigajenni perhaps you didn't understand what I meant when I said "if it's ok with Robert". Robert is known to be very picky about The Cure's sound. He is, after all, what most people consider THE CURE. I never said Robert was perfect, it's the fact that he is PICKY about The Cure's sound. You should already know this being an "intelligent Cure fan". Guess you aren't as intelligent about The Cure as you think.
Karynica 1 year ago
it's not that Jason is sloppy and weak... it's that there is a cheesy-ass programmed beat going and he has to play over top of it. This song has always had sort of an out-of-time drum beat. Plus, STOP calling him "the new drummer" - he has been in the band for 15 years now. Boris was in for 10. Jason is the longest tenured DRUMMER in the Cure's history. Lol didn;t play drums the whole time, and hell, even he was only in the band for 12 years. So yeah. Blame Robert and his desire to sequence.
djeboe 1 year ago 2
@djeboe so what? Andy was just a couple of years and did more memorable things on the drums than Jason.
gnzvideos 1 year ago
that horrible background sound is ruining the song! was it jason's idea? i've noticed he has added extra percussion sounds that do nothing for the songs!
artumoon 1 year ago 2
What happened to Jason? In '96 he played as good, in my opinion a little better than Boris, then in about 2004 his style went to crap.
The1ne07 1 year ago 2
@The1ne07 What happened is, after 1997, Robert decided that they needed to play almost EVERY SINGLE SONG with prerecorded backing tracks. At least, this is per Roger. Some of the songs sound good, don;t get me wrong... but stuff like this is just a failed effort, IMHO, which I'm sure Mr. Smith could give two fucks about, despite the fact that I have been a loyal fan and they have been my fave band for 23 years now... I just think that the backing tracks Idea sort of screwed the pooch a little.
djeboe 1 year ago
@djeboe
The back tracks were Jason's idea, well a lot of them anyway.
I do admit Robert made some jackass moves in the past 13 years of the Cure, including firing Roger.
The1ne07 1 year ago
Masterpiece by The Cure!!
It never loose is beautiful in the years!!
DVNGLC73 1 year ago
'push' a nice song over the yeas,even with those loops around.
:)
I wish they will tour soon for once again.
Even if Jason isn't as good as everyone wants him to be.
The Cure-FOREVER.
greyagain 1 year ago
i agree, push is one of the best THOTD songs but the drummer is bad and that sound in the background doesn't sound right
termservice 1 year ago 4
this sounds very interesting...the bass is really loud and...it sounds like a remix or something...
xzeldax3 1 year ago
the drummer doesn't seem comfortable up there
SirChadofWick 1 year ago 3
WTF!??? i find this new drummer kindda sloppy and weak... seems like im not the only one thinking this uh?
karentawn 1 year ago 29
@karentawn
No one could match Boris Williams, the original drummer of this song. Their best drummer they'd have had.
thaerith 1 year ago 47
@thaerith Boris is a genius and a master of the drums. This new one is just a new boy trying to play the drums.
termservice 1 year ago 4
@thaerith
No one, Agree!!!!!!!!
miniyo2 1 year ago
what on earth has paul done to himself. i remember him in the show concert as a plain looking oldish man. does grab the attention factor
fromtheedgeofthedeep 11 months ago
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what on earth has paul done to himself. i remember him in the show concert as a plain looking oldish man. does grab the attention factor
fromtheedgeofthedeep 11 months ago
@thaerith what? He's the worst actually
MehdiGlz 5 months ago
@thaerith No, no, no no no!!! Sorry, he IS the best, cooper's the one who sucks
MehdiGlz 5 months ago
@karentawn your right the only thing is, hes not a new drummer hes been with the band a good 13 years
fohawk31 1 year ago
@karentawn new drummer? Jason has been with The Cure since 1995. How is he new?
Karynica 1 year ago
@karentawn wtf new/????? where the hell have you been?
Pagmiester 9 months ago
@karentawn He's not new, though. He's been in the band since '97, I think.
webster670 7 months ago
@karentawn New? LOL I think everyone is jumping someone else's train!
FXMAN66 5 months ago
@FXMAN66 Sorry but Jason will always be seen as "the new guy" by old fans. More of a filler than a real Cure member.
gnzvideos 4 months ago
I am a big cure fan, but does anyone else think after they made there Wish album in 92 the sound has changed drastically. maybe it's Boris leavin?porl gone over those years? just wish they would have this sound again or better yet the disintegration magic.. (hard to beat that one).. just my opinion..
bigdaddykool1 1 year ago 5
@bigdaddykool1 I love those good old years too :)
I think The Cure has changed their rhythms a lot, because the great Boris decided to leave the band. And have changed their sound because the producer Dave M. Allen is not working with them anymore.
MrLocoCure 1 year ago 6
BRING BACK BORIS WILLIAMS!!!!
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!
That blonde monkey is ruining everything!
dwnunder90 2 years ago 6
I just can't get enough of this video!!! I must have seen it 30 times today. Thank you so much for posting it! I've seen The Cure in concert twice and I can hardly wait 'till they start touring again..The greatest band ever!!! Love you Robert!
brankalovesrobert 2 years ago 2
sin lugar a dudas unos de los mejores temas de the cure!!!! love this song!!
adrischvartz 2 years ago
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good work jason!!!!good drums!!!!
nunozr 2 years ago
you are a good man defending jason... but he really doesn't fit The Cure which needs more creativity and the addition of those sounds in the background is just unbearable.
gnzvideos 2 years ago 2
Hey guys! watch the video called
"Jason Cooper cant stop playing cymbals"
you will have a good time with it!
BRING BACK BORIS WILLIAMS ASAP!
amigajenni 2 years ago 4
what the fuck is that!!???come back Boris..
MrMinkiorre 2 years ago 6
sure they may not be the same as before,, but who really are? if you really like to see them at there prime take a look at live at orange or show.. but I am still glad to see them and put these other groups in there plade.. long live the cure!!
guysan 2 years ago
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This show was lame. Face it the cure are a studio band.
nosmosisprod 2 years ago
@nosmosisprod I agree with you but I think they sounded pretty good live until Robert fired Perry and Roger, and the inclusion of Porl only brought lame performances...also in studio, 4-13 dream was a complete desilution... I miss the KBDS and all that the cure was until 2005
HYPERJOHNBASS 2 years ago
The band is going down.. They need the keyboards and Boris..
Listen to this crap, he is slaughtering Boris' amazing drum compositions.
The1ne07 2 years ago 2
@The1ne07 he is RUINING, DESTROYING, SPOILING Boris' drum patterns!!!!
Please stop him!
GO, GO, GO... push the blondie away!!!
dwnunder90 2 years ago 3
dream 4.13 is their best work since wish!
you are a new comer right?
eresunjoto 2 years ago
dream 4.13 is their best work since wish!
you are a new comer right?
i have just realize that you are too young ... so you missed the really great days of The Cure! hahaha poor boy!
BORIS WILLIAMS: RETURN TO THE BAND PLEASE AND SAVE THE CURE!
Robert is surrounded by idiot yes-men!
eresunjoto 2 years ago
Nah
Simon has been his right hand man throughout his history with The Cure, excluding the fight at the pub.
And Porl has been with them for a while.
Jason is the pawn, the company suckup.
The1ne07 2 years ago
@The1ne07 jason is probabaly the 'escape' like Lol was... it's the only reason they keep him in the band.
Drummer311t3 2 years ago
May be but what if Roger played keyboards on 4.13 dream?...It would be completelly differant...or what if there was some fucking keyboard on the album?...or what if there wasnt that fucking hendrix rock guitar sound Porl gave to the tracks?
HYPERJOHNBASS 2 years ago
Ok...It was right in freakshow but why in all the other tracks?
HYPERJOHNBASS 2 years ago
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The drums sound HORRIBLE! the guy is a soft hitter.. a loser.. a puppet in Robert's hand.. has no personality and zero creativity!
Boris was waaay different.. the opposite of this so-called "drummer"
myinfluence2u 2 years ago
is somebody really listening to the drums? they are played perfectly!!... is just the sound loop that doesnt let us hear it that good. jason is an excellent drummer... make an effort and listen carefully only the drums... they are play perfect!!
pedrin17 2 years ago 3
komatara!
fearofdub 2 years ago
@fearofdub
Sumfwnw!
;)
greyagain 2 years ago
les na tous ksanadoume pote ellada?
fearofdub 2 years ago
File polu 8a to h8ela.
Twra an upologiseis pws sta 30 xronia tous erxontai edw ana 5-etia & pws teleutaia fora pou mas episkefthkan htan to '05,e tote...nomizw pws erxetai h wra!
Kalokairaki as poume?
;)
greyagain 2 years ago
makari, na einai se tour...an kai suduasmos ekswterikou kai sunaulias cure einai episis polu kalo!
fearofdub 2 years ago
@fearofdub
as kanoun kapoio live 3ana & as einai k e3w,apla Europe k oxi U.S.A. dioti den periseuoun ta gamhmena ta 'maroulia'
greyagain 2 years ago
I don't think Jason is the worst drummer in the Cure's history. There once was a guy name Lol Tolhurst,He couldn't play an instrument even though the band hired someone to teach him!
GMACD06 2 years ago 3
have you heard bootlegs from 1979-1982?
Lol's drumming was way better han Jason's
COMPARE ALL CATS ARE GREY from 1982 and the ones with Jason.. LOL beats him anytime! and Lol had BETTER DRUM SOUND!!!
also Lol played in Boys don't cry.. a classic of the 80s.. Jason has nothing memorable!!!
myinfluence2u 2 years ago
fucking die you horrible cunt.
stillmoonmachine 2 years ago
Okay, Jason is a fairly average drummer, but he does not deserve the shit that you 'fans' give him. The only real reason most of you want Boris back is so that it can be as close to the origonal lineup as possible, then you want to bring back the keyboards and only hear them play their old stuff. Because you don't want the cure to progress musically, you just like how they used to sound.
kingcroak 2 years ago
@kingcroak
i agree with you on that.
greyagain 2 years ago 2
Well I think Jason as no creativity to be a Cure drummer; I usually wonder who played drums in that great record from 2004 I read that Porl Thompson hanged out with them in the studio back then...was any-one else there that we didn´t know!!!!????. Now if Boris doesnt return Robert is stuck with Jason. I believe that any of these would be a good replacement BUDGIE, KEVIN HASKINS and JIMMY CHAMBERLIN. I prefer BUDGIE is technique is flawless and he is creative... but different from Boris.
pedrorainha13 2 years ago
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I agree. Jason is the weakest point in this incredible band. The Cure deserves a real drummer with similar musical influences to those of the other guys. Robert, Simon & Porl were in the best year of the band, but Jason gets in the way. He must be fired and a real drummer should take the job ASAP.
BTW, Roger said no long ago, that Boris is the best drummer he's worked with and the crappy background sounds began with the arrival of Jason...
GO, GO, GO push Jason away!
dwnunder90 2 years ago
Porl thought he was playing for Marilyn Manson....LOL...I think Jason is an ok average drummer, but they do need to bring the keyboards back...it is not the same!
aclopezestrada 2 years ago 5
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Robert don't let Jason stay.
damianofonti 2 years ago
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FUUUUCK those drums suck ass!
thejojoshabadoo 2 years ago
Robert made a bad decision to hire Jason as the drummer for his band. He is so musically limited and it shows. Also he is just Roberts' 'Yes-man', a guy with no personality.
I am a fan since 1985 and I can say that jason is the worst drummer in the history of The Cure.
lacharla2000 2 years ago
this song is so amazing
but the drumms suck
i wish boris would come back!!
thecurearethebest 2 years ago
wap, wep, wap, wop, wap, wap is all that can be heard here! jason get rid of those crappy sounds!!!
gnzvideos 2 years ago
I hung with the Cure through thick and thin. Disintegration was kickass, Wish was awesome but different...
OK
Newer lineup... Wild Mood Swings had its moments, no need to worry, sort of like Kiss Mex3...
Bloodflowers is hugely underrated...
But since then, good God.
They need to get rid of that damn drummer.
braddyboy82 2 years ago
I agree. Jason is a bad damn drummer!
Hope Robert gets rid of him.
cure4allAndMe 2 years ago
totally agree! the drummer sucks big time! the weakest point in the band.... too sad...
amigajenni 2 years ago
The Cure declined when Boris Williams, the drummer, left the band.
Jason relies a lot on these pre-recorded sh*t that spoils everything.
Jason´s style is bad, his sound is weak, poor and bad, he always looks nervous and boring.
In more than 14 years with the band, could jason compose any memorable DRUM INTRO or DRUM PATTERN? of course not! compare to the intros in JLH or WCIBY, the drum pattern in Last Dance beats ANY jason ´pattern´. That is because he is just a timekeeper with a metronome
myinfluence2u 2 years ago 2
He plays it without the drum loop in the Festival 2005 version. He drums quite well on the new album.
Rufus535 2 years ago 4
I almost went on a tirade about you being silly, then I remembered this is the internet, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So I'll let you admire Boris from afar, and I'll ask you to please stop posting on every cure song you find that you like Boris. You don't have to. Heck, I won't even notice if you don't since I normally don't have the comments open.
rftexas 2 years ago 2
god i love this song to death, but im not really feeling this "revamp". The guitar is too over-driven and you cant make out all the great nuances of the lead line. The bass still sounds amazing as ever.
monosynthluv 2 years ago
i just love the twist on the drums...i think it was better with out but the feeling is soooooo incredible!xx
thecure32effsx 2 years ago
im currrently listning tothis on my ps3 sounds much better than on my computer
iamsurfing22 2 years ago
one of the best rock/pop songs ever written!
Can't get enough of it every single time i heard it...
The Cure FOREVER
greyagain 2 years ago 4
Pełny odlot. Cofnąłem się sporo latek wstecz, wróciły wspomnienia. Coś niesamowitego. The Cure is the best.
MrArtDj 2 years ago
Jason is a pretty good drummer, and overall, cure style, the drumming is so simplistic, so give him a fucking break. He's just as good. It's only the drum loops that sound like crap.
Blackvent1 2 years ago 4
the drum loops is ALL you can hear from him!!! without them his snare drum wont be heard! dont you realize that?
he has included this prerecorded sh*t even in Just Like Heaven, At Night, fascination, prayers for rain, etc! spoiling very good songs.
jason cooper sucks and he knows it but he loves money.
myinfluence2u 2 years ago
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oh the drummer is bad , oh the drummer is bad cking pussies!
But how about the fat's voice I mean the voice of robert.
Epic fail! He is drowning while he is singing !
robertsmithisapussy 2 years ago
heehee... there's sumthin' coooool (agh-hum) something's up?
bigbigman3 2 years ago
God....i was there that night and this song rocked my up into the sky outside of MSG and into the NYC sky line!!!!!!! Made my heart wanna burst.....jumpin up and down and lost my voice for a week!!!!!! Wooooooo!!! :)
takerele 2 years ago
!обожаю дядю роберта!:-)
supеr Curе! Frоm Russiа with lоvе!
anastasita76 2 years ago 2
is it metronome?? xD
trecoolwwy 2 years ago
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Oh gosh, Jason really sucks!!!
ivanito1978 2 years ago
bring back perry!!!
nunozr 2 years ago
Man, Porl looks really...well he certainly is not as pretty as he was in the 80s
And, goodness, how many pedal boards does he have?!?!
Spectreman 2 years ago
I actually really dig his new look :D if you can look that good when you're a middle-aged bald man AND play guitar like he does you're pretty awesome. He does use a lot of effects!
Brodyturbo 2 years ago 2
Drums are fine, it's just a different version of the song to the album. If you look at the live version in '05 it is not the same as this and doesn't have the drum loop. Seriously, Jason is fine, he isn't ruining the Cure.
Rufus535 2 years ago 6
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Whats up with the gay bum spanking drums?
razorio007 2 years ago
I think exactly the same!
sndz2007 2 years ago
Bring Boris back!
canadaboyooo 2 years ago
I agree with you, Bring Boris Williams back right now !!!!!, i don't know what happen with Robert !
transtorna2tube 2 years ago
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drums are shit!!!!! fuck robert smith and his retard jason cooper drummer! hahahaha fuck fuck the cure
ciararozzas 2 years ago
The most amazing song ever! I love it. and i LOVE robert.
xXxJessicaFayexXx 2 years ago
Ótimo!
wexter25 2 years ago
Loucura!!!!
wexter25 2 years ago