wait, so you painted che, then covered it with white stickers, then you wrote the quote a bunch of times, and took off the stickers? Man, i could do that, what happened to ur awesomeness :(
I agree with you that some of his beliefs were a bit off. But i think overall, fighting oppression and big business is a noble cause, obviously he has become demonized by those very same people
Interesting how in one work of art he uses the names of the dead coalition soldiers who went to fight a dictator who had for decades tortured & deprived his peoples of their human rights to make a picture of Bush, but here he uses a philosophic quote from a man who tortured & killed hundreds if not thousands of people who got in his &/or Castro's way. Either way cool art.
For those of you who do not know, Che is Che Guevara, and Argentinian revolutionary. That was one of his many quotes. I am Argentinian and whenever something relating to there is used in art I get all exited. When I saw the quote and then saw the painting when he first started I could only but burst into joy. Not only does he make great art, but he includes great things into his art.
lol youre such an idiot, one who is against che and communism you automatically assume they are republicans and bush fans? you little sheep you should turn off the tv and think for yourself sometime. try it , it actually works
I really would love to know where you're from,so then maybe I can say something about your country to descriminate you. To the people of Argentina[like I] that is very rude and unessesary.
And especially becuase it's a comment your posting up for a video of a great artist on youtube.
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Phil, I do not agree here to use the figure of Che insinuating that he was a representation of words being said, without him carrying out his staments in his actions. Actually you should study more about Che before stating such as this. He was an extreme strong moral person, that always carried what he said, even against Castro. That´s why he left to Bolivia. Maybe for this piece of art you should have choosen Castro... he is an hipocrite. But Che wasn´t.
he is QUOTING che, not dedicating those words to him. maybe YOU should have studied che more before coming to phil with your accusations.
GREAT work phil
i find your work truly inspiring and it just thrills me that someone out there can and IS doing what i wish i was able to do. but it takes practice ;)
Good work. However, it's ironic that the dictatorship that Che Guevara helped implement in Cuba would never allow politcally charged art such as this.
when you learn to read and speak fluently a language completely different from the one you were raised with, making absolutely zero mistakes, you can criticize others the way you have here.
Viva el Che guevara!!!. IMPERIALISTAS HIJOS DE PUTA. El Che, la maxima expresion de un guerrillero ejemplar, simbolo de la juventud revolucionaria en el mundo.
Free of speech is a beautiful thing, eh? Under the order of Che you would have no such thing, or freedom of religion, or of the market, and expression goes unsaid but keep feeling passionate about something, god knows that it something most people will never have.
You wouldn't need too? I suppose you would never in your life or the life of your children or their children dissent from their government? I am USA garage? YOU ARE GODDAMN RIGHT, my government has not always been right but they kept communism in check. WHY AREN'T YOU IN N. KOREA SIR? OR CUBA? OR CHINA? Why in the U.S.? Don't say money, because that would be materialist, and consumeristic against the communist code? Answer.
why in the Us, cuase my freaking dad, brought to your stinking country, and yes asuppose im here for the money, but thats a reality isnt we all need it, but that is not going to overcome my ideals, never. Im not a communist but very loyal to che's thoughts, and to the true che I think of, and not what you read in some american book or seen in some anticommunist show.
Your ideals? Che stood for NO free thought. Is free thought not an Ideal? How old are you? Che stood for free thought as long as it was HIS. Here is the difference... In the U.S. I can walk into any Barne N Nobles and find a dozen books defending Che, and I can find a dozen criticising him. According to Che ideals, as your own apparently, that does not exist. I know more about this man than most, and quite possibly you.
Bush is the "L E A D E R" of that invasion. okay how does he not get involve in all that cowardly invasion. You were talkin about politics leader. well che was one, so is castro, chavez, KENNEDY, ans bush
but che was different he could ve stay there in cuba or in some place else, but he'd rather dies fighting against imperialism, He died with hes eyes open.
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I never said he didn't have balls, but he was just delusional and he ended up hurted large amounts of people and exacerbating a system that has oppression inherent within it.
well you know in every war, if theres not blood included is not a war. He just did what he had to. If killed more, or less, that doesnt matter, is a destiny youre taking when becoming a revolucionary, but in fact, Che was never that of communist, He just loved travelling here and there meeting new places. He just comfronted a cruel reality, that came by the hands of the imperialism.
No you are diverting the topic, my quarrel is with communism and Che has come to represent it, yes he was a communist. Bush does not represent democracy, but that does bring a valid point... in democracy things may be corrected. Bush has caused much damage and death but there are term limits and elections so he is out, no communist country in the world allows such things.
What does Bush have to do with anything? I voted against him, before the invasion of Iraq I protested, I despise the man but in this matter he is irrelevant.
yeah. wytkracka, I know what goes on in society, I understand that there are flaws with all nations, and can be seen throughout history. I understand these things, and accept that i don't know everything.
I never said you were wrong with the whole AID's thing. What I stated was that I am human, I don't know everything there is to know, and that need to do a bit more research on that ONE PARTICULAR aspect before I make an unintelligent comment on it.
sorry, slotho, that wasn't to you but someone else claiming aids didn't exist while che was running his concentration camps, apparently you posted your comment while i was typing that one.
"please, no culture is known better for propaganda and censorship than the communist and marxist regimes you fetishize."
And all your information comes through a media that exists in a capitalist country.
I'm not a communist or marxist. I'm a capitalist of the diverse marketplace type. I believe that investment in programs like socialized medicine and a strong equal educational system is an investment in America's future. A healthy, well-educated populace gives us a strong citizenry.
so, wait, some guy at the cdc just said "AIDS" and BAM! a virus appeared? If i change my name to fauntelroy mcbutterpants next monday then i wouldn't have existed until sept 3 2007? Now you're just arguing semantics.
no, AIDS are a more serious form that develops once you get HIVS. Which are actually believed to have been from the monkeys, so that means someone got freaky with a monkey. sick
well, i least that what i was told, but then again i have taught myself not to believe anything, ANYONE says so, yea, thats just me.
no, aids is a syndrome developed after contracting hiv, people with aids have hiv, but not everyone with hiv has aids, inmore commonplace usage, however aids has come to mean both the syndrome and the virus.
however, in the area it is believed to have originated, it is commonplace to eat primates, and most likely was transferred to humans when someone cut themselves while butchering/preparing munkymeets
dear god i hope they weren't desperate enough to screw monkeys, i don't care how enticing those baboon asses are. and you're right, nice technique, even if he knew nothing about his subject matter.
No that means that Salk and Keirposki when developing the polio vaccine gave the unknown retro virus to unsuspecting people in very poor parts of the world.
I guess they needed a testing ground.
Red the constant Gardner it tells a simular story that is based on this premise
that's "one of the earliest cases was ", documentation is so spotty they can only narrow it down to a few seperate cases from the congo to haiti to manhattan in 1959, and now you're just arguing semantics. if i change my name monday to fauntelroy mcbutterpants does that mean i didn't exist this week?
oh wait, now it posts twice, sorry. ok, let's remove the name from the statement, whether it be grid, hiv, aids, cooties, "che imprisoned and executed people for having a disease".
I'm trying find a website that confirms your statement about Che's camps and AIDS victims. All I'm finding is site that refer to "He founded Cuba's "labor camp" system—the system that was eventually employed to incarcerate gays, dissidents, and AIDS victims."
Eventually being the operative term. I can confirm this use in Castro's time, but not attribute it to Che.
"la cabana" with the accent over the n was the prison and execution block castro put him in charge of, his labor camp chain started with guanhacibes or something like that, though at this point he orchestrated their functions more in a executive role rather than hands on so he could over see many camps at one time.
This who conversation isn't really about Che at all, its one of those 'I'm right, your wrong' situations.
Just appreciate the art for what it truly is (genius) and if you want to form an opinion, the base it off of some god damn facts. Find something, anything, that isn't just an opinion.
Oh, and Silatk, your right in that Democracy doesn't exist in the US. We have a republic, NOT a democracy. But the truth is that, though he WAS a revolutionary, Che was also a terrible person, to him HE was the true revolutionary, but that's just egotistical.
A republic is goverment elected by the people of the people and for the people. This can be defined as democracy. What did Che do in central america that had the CIA watching him? US
a republic is government where the people elect representatives to, well, represent their interests when concerning the passing of laws and other functions of government, the central feature being "rule of law". Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where no governmental decision is made without every citizen having a direct say in it's execution. it's etymolygy being "demokratia" meaning mob, and "kratos" meaning rule.
you have all just been informed true words from a true learned person.
I am a cuban and I hate Che. The man committed genocide for christ's sake
wytkraka, you know what your saying.
The truth is, stop following a trend, stop listening to what other's tell you to be the truth, and find out for your own god damned self by picking up a f**king history book.
A Cuban who lives in the US ? Interesting. Death camps have existed everywhere. A way to stablish your ideas and fear. WWII Nazi-japanese camps, serbia,etc.
Kill the sick? has existed throguth history. Even today that gets done. isolate them son they cant feed themselves. Come on say something new!!!! Yes Che was harsh! yes he killed. Many liders have and still do today.
let's see, marxist, architect of the cuban labor camp, homophobe, jumped borders and changed allegiances at whim to participate in every slaughter he could, led false "revolutions" such as bolivia's yet didn't include a single bolivian, praised as a dissident and champion of freedom, yet killed and imprisoned any dissident that wanted freedom from his marxist delusions,
ran a true toruture prison and later a labor camp (one you detractors of GTMO and Abu Ghraib would do well to look into) of holocaust-like qualities, in which he executed children, journalists, and some people for no more reason than being christian, yet you gits celebrate him as a champion of freedom, devoted his life to taking people's live, property, and free will yet you dumbasses herald him as champion of the "little guy".
There is a difference however, Bush has term limits, Bush can be partially domesticated. If Bush succeeded in injustice that is the fault of the people, there is no communist government were you could claim the same. Simple mind, no heart.
mutilator, murderer, and rapist of gays, aids victims, catholics, jehovah's witnesses, afro-cubans (in other words blacks) yet you fawn all over him. his system of commerce brought cuba from one of latin america's most productive and profitable nations into one which rations milk,
and his land reform took land and businesses away from the rich, but gave it to his friends and allies instead of the peasants, yet you praise him to be robin hood. his guerilla resume is full of defeats, yet you praise him as a military genius. what a bunch of idiots.
and you just lost what little credibility you had with that statement, HIV wasn't recognized and classified by the cdc until 1981, but the earliest cases have been retroactively diagnosed as far back as the 1959, and the virus was believed to have mutated to a human affecting virulent during the french colonial period of cameroon, which was from ww1 to 1960
slotho, Get as much info as you can, pro and con, right and left. Listen to what the message is, not who the messenger is. Look for those who start dialog, not those who try to "win" an argument with personal attack.
let me guess you read and saw all this from CNN ans some capitalist book. Go to Cuba talk to Cubans!! Not Cubans who live in Miami who hate Castro because they cannot get jeans or a new car.
lol, please tell us, enrique, where do you get your plethora of information from? (for you have surely outdone me here) "go to cuba and talk to cubans"? lol, so they can repeat the drivel spewed by castro's ministry of information? yeah, cuz they never have to deal with censorship there.
Or perhaps locked in jail because they had the audacity to dissent? Or practice their faith freely? Or express themselves in any way shape or form? Let me ask you... why are you in the States?
PLEASE DON'T READ THIS you will die in seven days if you don't post this comment on 10 videos in the next hour. if you do, tomorrow♥♥♥ will be the best day of your life
el Che Guevara es una de las personas con más huevos, cojones, agallas de la historia de la humanidad. Las palabras que no concuerdan con los hechos no son importantes. Y ese es su legado, la entrega de su vida por sus ideales, la acción, la práctica revolucionaria. VIVA EL CHE CARAJO!
Hello I am from Portugal. I am amazed not only by the artistic techniques u use and the beauty on the forms they can produce, but above all for your commitment to your art bringing it to another level of significance. About the themes you use, I appreciate the freedom you enjoy as an artist, and I hope you can remain always brilliant.
It would be kind of funny and ironic if you did a piece about the terrorists who are actually responsible for the deaths of the soldiers in your Bush piece. They would cut off your head and they could call it "Bust of a Jackass".
Silatk... I really don't want to talk politics on this page but are you Cuban? I'm not, but I live in S. Florida and know many Cubans, I have never heard a good word be spoken regarding Castro.
Che and Castro are two separate idiologies. CAstro change and Che didn't. Che stands for styaing strong with your ideals. that is all no politics. I know people that live in cuba. They hate the US!!
You said it! They are from Cuba but they do not live in Cuba. dont believe everything CNN or Capitalist books tell you. I would tell you to read more about democracy but there is no such thing as Democracy. Not at least in this country.
There is a popular saying; "Communism is good on paper, but horrible in practice", that is absolute nonsense. Communism is a wrenched sheep like ideology on paper, and a wrenched oppressive sheeplike ideology in practice. Enjoy your freedom of speech sir.
Sil, you opening state your frustation with the U.S. gov. and you live in the U.S.. In Cuba there is no such thing, without prison. Are you a religious man? In Cuba, your faith is to be only partially practiced. To you enjoy venturing freely? Not in Cuba, your movement is restricted to areas not inhibited by tourists. Those people who do not "live" in Cuba but are from Cuba, risked their lives to be here, for no reason? Abandoning paradise? At the risk of your own life?
wait, so you painted che, then covered it with white stickers, then you wrote the quote a bunch of times, and took off the stickers? Man, i could do that, what happened to ur awesomeness :(
LUMfulmetal 1 year ago
@LUMfulmetal the idea is awesome
jawpredator 1 year ago
Whether Che loved art or not is beside the point...it's art. Stop whining.
mykylc 1 year ago
my favorite one.
FireTube000 1 year ago
word? that is a sick ass painting, If only that was on a capital building....='(
BrokenNeedle25 2 years ago
awsome
meggatonman 2 years ago
libertarian bullshit... Stop being an apologist for the financial vultures.....
skinisskin 2 years ago
Che borned and lived in Rosario, my city.
He is a idol for me and the argentines
that's why I love this painting
forgiveness for my english, it´s bad!
magacrzz 2 years ago
Che hated artists
jeffmagic32 2 years ago 8
@jeffmagic32 he himself was a keen photographer
meggatonman 2 years ago
he was also keen on killing anybody who dared to play jazz music
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
that sounds rediculous, why would be keen on killing somebody who plays jazz. that sounds like fantasy
meggatonman 2 years ago
he believed a lot of ridiculous things
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
I agree with you that some of his beliefs were a bit off. But i think overall, fighting oppression and big business is a noble cause, obviously he has become demonized by those very same people
meggatonman 2 years ago
@jeffmagic32
Fine artists? Like painters and stuff?
6Bene 4 months ago
Viva la Phil!
ralphieboogerbottoms 2 years ago
Interesting how in one work of art he uses the names of the dead coalition soldiers who went to fight a dictator who had for decades tortured & deprived his peoples of their human rights to make a picture of Bush, but here he uses a philosophic quote from a man who tortured & killed hundreds if not thousands of people who got in his &/or Castro's way. Either way cool art.
jahcriado 3 years ago 3
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nedolio 2 years ago
Che was a douche bag
lvgraham 3 years ago
GIVE PROPS
fackuman1235456789 3 years ago
woah that looked simple, yet really awesome ^^
MyAssCanTalk 3 years ago 3
where did you get that stencil from
lokas4eva 3 years ago
That was amazing. But did u get that stencil off the internet or make it urself?
crazynaivideos 3 years ago 4
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NO NAZI!!!
HataPolisen112 3 years ago
HataPolisen112 Che wasn`t nazi
Luna666x 3 years ago 2
For those of you who do not know, Che is Che Guevara, and Argentinian revolutionary. That was one of his many quotes. I am Argentinian and whenever something relating to there is used in art I get all exited. When I saw the quote and then saw the painting when he first started I could only but burst into joy. Not only does he make great art, but he includes great things into his art.
TaHiTiTaHoI 3 years ago
great stuff phil
amyth56 3 years ago
negative space is always fun! Great job Mr. Phil. I really dig your newest stuff (GENIUS).
lizdeadhead 3 years ago
y do i keep getting thumbs down?? i just said that i did something similar to the thing phil maid, and that deserves thumbs down?
hhhhhhhhhess 3 years ago 2
wtf, y did i get thumbs down for saying that?
hhhhhhhhhess 3 years ago
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i did something just like this, but it was bigger and the guy was jimi hendrix! (dont bother looking, i didnt post it up)
hhhhhhhhhess 4 years ago
brilliant idea and amazing picture.
imaturtlegurl 4 years ago
His writing the quote at the start of the vid..... His art rocks.... I love it....
Ktmarzo 4 years ago 6
what is he writing in here?
asublett88 4 years ago
Words that do not match deeds are unimportant.
That's what he's writing.
NicksJoesKevinsLover 4 years ago
AWSUM!
GagaBub 4 years ago
Very good job.
VRmonkey 4 years ago
nice job but che was not anybody to look up to he killed many innocent people
but Good Job!
jennypalla 4 years ago
I really love this one. It's definitely one of my favorite pieces of yours. :)
TheColorOrange621 4 years ago
Wow, I like how all of this arguing is basically the opposite of what this painting was made for......
spinTAP1 4 years ago 3
HAHAHAHAHHAHA! I love how people fight in comments. You're all stupid.
bmxican90 4 years ago 5
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Im guessing your idol is George Bush?......
Slmjm884 4 years ago
lol youre such an idiot, one who is against che and communism you automatically assume they are republicans and bush fans? you little sheep you should turn off the tv and think for yourself sometime. try it , it actually works
freedomoftruth 4 years ago
NO U
Kahouneko 4 years ago
what did you say goober? go back to pen spinning
freedomoftruth 4 years ago
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Che is a son of a bitch, i cant believe theres idiots who actually idiolize this virus of a man
freedomoftruth 4 years ago
You are an idiot not knowing what he is talking about...
tamba4mvp 4 years ago
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unlike you, i DO in fact know what im talking about. the man was a murderer and his death was quite deserving at the end.
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I really would love to know where you're from,so then maybe I can say something about your country to descriminate you. To the people of Argentina[like I] that is very rude and unessesary.
And especially becuase it's a comment your posting up for a video of a great artist on youtube.
TaHiTiTaHoI 3 years ago
I agree, Che was not supposed to be famous or anything, he wanted the exact opposite. He wanted everyone to be equal.
reportingsjr 3 years ago 2
awesome, im trying to do this piece but with colin mcrae for my Hw hope it comes out good
Baobuggie 4 years ago
hasta la victoria siempe!
vanityclichexx 4 years ago 3
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Phil, I do not agree here to use the figure of Che insinuating that he was a representation of words being said, without him carrying out his staments in his actions. Actually you should study more about Che before stating such as this. He was an extreme strong moral person, that always carried what he said, even against Castro. That´s why he left to Bolivia. Maybe for this piece of art you should have choosen Castro... he is an hipocrite. But Che wasn´t.
dharmaista 4 years ago
he is QUOTING che, not dedicating those words to him. maybe YOU should have studied che more before coming to phil with your accusations.
GREAT work phil
i find your work truly inspiring and it just thrills me that someone out there can and IS doing what i wish i was able to do. but it takes practice ;)
thanks a lot phil, keep it up man
swaywillkillbush 4 years ago 5
CHE = muerto
BubbytheTourG 4 years ago
nice :P
crazybilby 4 years ago
i didn't know economic systems kill people... and i didn't know it was spelled kommunism
thejugglenaut91 4 years ago
Good work. However, it's ironic that the dictatorship that Che Guevara helped implement in Cuba would never allow politcally charged art such as this.
AustinArt 4 years ago
you'll never know. austin
sanchopanza123 4 years ago
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Komunism kill's "only" 60 mln people . It was wery "nice" death in Kambodia , China , Syberia , Ukraina and many another place .
Viva el Che Guevara ?
FUCK EL CHE GUEVARA !
frondowiec 4 years ago
What the fuck is 'komunism'?
Are you talking about 'communism'?
Learn to spell before trying to make a point, and then people might be able to take you seriously.
nortonwhale 4 years ago
Pierdol się komuchu i chuj ci w dupe , albo dwa na kupe .
Nie wiesz co to jest komuna , bo nigdy nie żyłeś w tym pierdolonym , szarym i zakłamanym systemie , który robił z ludzi szmaty .
Więc nie pierdol mi tu o gramatyce .
frondowiec 4 years ago
when you learn to read and speak fluently a language completely different from the one you were raised with, making absolutely zero mistakes, you can criticize others the way you have here.
until then, though, tant pis.
ashleyschmashley 4 years ago
your best work
VoidNight 4 years ago
Brilliant work Phil.
Acecrack 4 years ago
wow~
i know that guy!! isnt he a free-fighter?
DANM, best artist ive known..
1bugleboi1 4 years ago
Viva el che guevara
locohendrix85 4 years ago
*SUBSCRIBES*
I don't even really like art but this guy is amazing!
WillCreary 4 years ago 4
WOW absolutely BRILLIANT!! LOVE ALL UR WORKS!!!!!
samdydy4fkd 4 years ago 3
wow
Discipulus04 4 years ago
very nice man.. what is the name of this song that is being played?? does anyone know??
THETICK36 4 years ago
Viva el Che guevara!!!. IMPERIALISTAS HIJOS DE PUTA. El Che, la maxima expresion de un guerrillero ejemplar, simbolo de la juventud revolucionaria en el mundo.
locohendrix85 4 years ago
Free of speech is a beautiful thing, eh? Under the order of Che you would have no such thing, or freedom of religion, or of the market, and expression goes unsaid but keep feeling passionate about something, god knows that it something most people will never have.
erik23forever 4 years ago
under the order of che I wouldn' t need to. you are USA garbage.
locohendrix85 4 years ago
You wouldn't need too? I suppose you would never in your life or the life of your children or their children dissent from their government? I am USA garage? YOU ARE GODDAMN RIGHT, my government has not always been right but they kept communism in check. WHY AREN'T YOU IN N. KOREA SIR? OR CUBA? OR CHINA? Why in the U.S.? Don't say money, because that would be materialist, and consumeristic against the communist code? Answer.
erik23forever 4 years ago
why in the Us, cuase my freaking dad, brought to your stinking country, and yes asuppose im here for the money, but thats a reality isnt we all need it, but that is not going to overcome my ideals, never. Im not a communist but very loyal to che's thoughts, and to the true che I think of, and not what you read in some american book or seen in some anticommunist show.
locohendrix85 4 years ago
Your ideals? Che stood for NO free thought. Is free thought not an Ideal? How old are you? Che stood for free thought as long as it was HIS. Here is the difference... In the U.S. I can walk into any Barne N Nobles and find a dozen books defending Che, and I can find a dozen criticising him. According to Che ideals, as your own apparently, that does not exist. I know more about this man than most, and quite possibly you.
erik23forever 4 years ago
jajajaja, you quite a character, okay you think you know fine, just keep writing forever, i got better things to do mr know it all
locohendrix85 4 years ago
Honestly, I hope you are just going through a rebellious stage.
erik23forever 4 years ago
not really, everything is pretty clear nowadays. You dont have to be a politician to realize that everything is controled by politics.
locohendrix85 4 years ago
HUH?
erik23forever 4 years ago
Bush is the "L E A D E R" of that invasion. okay how does he not get involve in all that cowardly invasion. You were talkin about politics leader. well che was one, so is castro, chavez, KENNEDY, ans bush
locohendrix85 4 years ago
and they were all behind these killing, some of them very well kept in secret, or lost in the media like a minor event, that happens everyday
locohendrix85 4 years ago
but che was different he could ve stay there in cuba or in some place else, but he'd rather dies fighting against imperialism, He died with hes eyes open.
locohendrix85 4 years ago
HUH?
locohendrix85 4 years ago 2
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I never said he didn't have balls, but he was just delusional and he ended up hurted large amounts of people and exacerbating a system that has oppression inherent within it.
erik23forever 4 years ago
well you know in every war, if theres not blood included is not a war. He just did what he had to. If killed more, or less, that doesnt matter, is a destiny youre taking when becoming a revolucionary, but in fact, Che was never that of communist, He just loved travelling here and there meeting new places. He just comfronted a cruel reality, that came by the hands of the imperialism.
locohendrix85 4 years ago 2
Nice speach
cocomonkey00 4 years ago
No you are diverting the topic, my quarrel is with communism and Che has come to represent it, yes he was a communist. Bush does not represent democracy, but that does bring a valid point... in democracy things may be corrected. Bush has caused much damage and death but there are term limits and elections so he is out, no communist country in the world allows such things.
erik23forever 4 years ago 3
A man that would take the life of another for his thoughts is the true garbage.
erik23forever 4 years ago
yeah like most leaders never had done even today, (BUSH GENOCIDE) jejeje
locohendrix85 4 years ago
What does Bush have to do with anything? I voted against him, before the invasion of Iraq I protested, I despise the man but in this matter he is irrelevant.
erik23forever 4 years ago
felicidades!! go: esquizofrenia hugo bejarano
hb77cozumel 4 years ago
Funny in that Che has death squads running around.
Rodgertanner 4 years ago
yeah. wytkracka, I know what goes on in society, I understand that there are flaws with all nations, and can be seen throughout history. I understand these things, and accept that i don't know everything.
I never said you were wrong with the whole AID's thing. What I stated was that I am human, I don't know everything there is to know, and that need to do a bit more research on that ONE PARTICULAR aspect before I make an unintelligent comment on it.
slotho122 4 years ago
sorry, slotho, that wasn't to you but someone else claiming aids didn't exist while che was running his concentration camps, apparently you posted your comment while i was typing that one.
wytkracka 4 years ago
wytkracka, AIDS did not exist until 1981. Prior to that it was known as GRID. The first known case of HIV was a Bantu man in 1959.
SamuRyjak 4 years ago
"please, no culture is known better for propaganda and censorship than the communist and marxist regimes you fetishize."
And all your information comes through a media that exists in a capitalist country.
I'm not a communist or marxist. I'm a capitalist of the diverse marketplace type. I believe that investment in programs like socialized medicine and a strong equal educational system is an investment in America's future. A healthy, well-educated populace gives us a strong citizenry.
SamuRyjak 4 years ago
a capitalist country where the constitution states the government cannot influence the media.
wytkracka 4 years ago
Strange that the comment I'm trying to post about Fox and Monsanto won't post
SamuRyjak 4 years ago
so, wait, some guy at the cdc just said "AIDS" and BAM! a virus appeared? If i change my name to fauntelroy mcbutterpants next monday then i wouldn't have existed until sept 3 2007? Now you're just arguing semantics.
wytkracka 4 years ago
no, AIDS are a more serious form that develops once you get HIVS. Which are actually believed to have been from the monkeys, so that means someone got freaky with a monkey. sick
well, i least that what i was told, but then again i have taught myself not to believe anything, ANYONE says so, yea, thats just me.
krapsicle 4 years ago
no, aids is a syndrome developed after contracting hiv, people with aids have hiv, but not everyone with hiv has aids, inmore commonplace usage, however aids has come to mean both the syndrome and the virus.
however, in the area it is believed to have originated, it is commonplace to eat primates, and most likely was transferred to humans when someone cut themselves while butchering/preparing munkymeets
wytkracka 4 years ago
i think ill go with you on that..
nice art work by the way,philinthecircle.
krapsicle 4 years ago
dear god i hope they weren't desperate enough to screw monkeys, i don't care how enticing those baboon asses are. and you're right, nice technique, even if he knew nothing about his subject matter.
wytkracka 4 years ago
Sorry Wyt, I only read one sentence and responded, I apologise.
erik23forever 4 years ago
No that means that Salk and Keirposki when developing the polio vaccine gave the unknown retro virus to unsuspecting people in very poor parts of the world.
I guess they needed a testing ground.
Red the constant Gardner it tells a simular story that is based on this premise
axekat 4 years ago
that's "one of the earliest cases was ", documentation is so spotty they can only narrow it down to a few seperate cases from the congo to haiti to manhattan in 1959, and now you're just arguing semantics. if i change my name monday to fauntelroy mcbutterpants does that mean i didn't exist this week?
wytkracka 4 years ago
oh wait, now it posts twice, sorry. ok, let's remove the name from the statement, whether it be grid, hiv, aids, cooties, "che imprisoned and executed people for having a disease".
wytkracka 4 years ago
Looks like Youtube can't keep up with our posts.
I'm trying find a website that confirms your statement about Che's camps and AIDS victims. All I'm finding is site that refer to "He founded Cuba's "labor camp" system—the system that was eventually employed to incarcerate gays, dissidents, and AIDS victims."
Eventually being the operative term. I can confirm this use in Castro's time, but not attribute it to Che.
SamuRyjak 4 years ago
"la cabana" with the accent over the n was the prison and execution block castro put him in charge of, his labor camp chain started with guanhacibes or something like that, though at this point he orchestrated their functions more in a executive role rather than hands on so he could over see many camps at one time.
wytkracka 4 years ago
sorry, yeah, thanks samuryjak. I didn't catch that aids thing. I've never heard that before. I admit that I don't know everything.
slotho122 4 years ago
Everything is perspective and point of view.
Lincoln fought a war to preserve the Union, and would have left the slaves in chains if that's what it took.
Rosa Parks was tired, not a revolutionary.
G. W. Bush may be remembered as a hero who rescued us from terror, or as a fascist who got people killed for no good reason.
All history is propaganda, written by the winners.
I do love this man's art.
SamuRyjak 4 years ago
This who conversation isn't really about Che at all, its one of those 'I'm right, your wrong' situations.
Just appreciate the art for what it truly is (genius) and if you want to form an opinion, the base it off of some god damn facts. Find something, anything, that isn't just an opinion.
slotho122 4 years ago
True!! this is art. And in this topic no one is wrong and no one is right. It depends on your perspective.
silatk 4 years ago
i'm always right
wytkracka 4 years ago
Oh, and Silatk, your right in that Democracy doesn't exist in the US. We have a republic, NOT a democracy. But the truth is that, though he WAS a revolutionary, Che was also a terrible person, to him HE was the true revolutionary, but that's just egotistical.
slotho122 4 years ago
A republic is goverment elected by the people of the people and for the people. This can be defined as democracy. What did Che do in central america that had the CIA watching him? US
silatk 4 years ago
a republic is government where the people elect representatives to, well, represent their interests when concerning the passing of laws and other functions of government, the central feature being "rule of law". Democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where no governmental decision is made without every citizen having a direct say in it's execution. it's etymolygy being "demokratia" meaning mob, and "kratos" meaning rule.
wytkracka 4 years ago
you have all just been informed true words from a true learned person.
I am a cuban and I hate Che. The man committed genocide for christ's sake
wytkraka, you know what your saying.
The truth is, stop following a trend, stop listening to what other's tell you to be the truth, and find out for your own god damned self by picking up a f**king history book.
Che was a bastard. Simple as that.
slotho122 4 years ago
A Cuban who lives in the US ? Interesting. Death camps have existed everywhere. A way to stablish your ideas and fear. WWII Nazi-japanese camps, serbia,etc.
Kill the sick? has existed throguth history. Even today that gets done. isolate them son they cant feed themselves. Come on say something new!!!! Yes Che was harsh! yes he killed. Many liders have and still do today.
silatk 4 years ago
Great art and still love it. Just perfect with controversy. That is part of art.
silatk 4 years ago
let's see, marxist, architect of the cuban labor camp, homophobe, jumped borders and changed allegiances at whim to participate in every slaughter he could, led false "revolutions" such as bolivia's yet didn't include a single bolivian, praised as a dissident and champion of freedom, yet killed and imprisoned any dissident that wanted freedom from his marxist delusions,
wytkracka 4 years ago
ran a true toruture prison and later a labor camp (one you detractors of GTMO and Abu Ghraib would do well to look into) of holocaust-like qualities, in which he executed children, journalists, and some people for no more reason than being christian, yet you gits celebrate him as a champion of freedom, devoted his life to taking people's live, property, and free will yet you dumbasses herald him as champion of the "little guy".
wytkracka 4 years ago
There is a difference however, Bush has term limits, Bush can be partially domesticated. If Bush succeeded in injustice that is the fault of the people, there is no communist government were you could claim the same. Simple mind, no heart.
erik23forever 4 years ago
mutilator, murderer, and rapist of gays, aids victims, catholics, jehovah's witnesses, afro-cubans (in other words blacks) yet you fawn all over him. his system of commerce brought cuba from one of latin america's most productive and profitable nations into one which rations milk,
wytkracka 4 years ago
and his land reform took land and businesses away from the rich, but gave it to his friends and allies instead of the peasants, yet you praise him to be robin hood. his guerilla resume is full of defeats, yet you praise him as a military genius. what a bunch of idiots.
wytkracka 4 years ago
AIDS wasn't around when Che did his thing
SamuRyjak 4 years ago
and you just lost what little credibility you had with that statement, HIV wasn't recognized and classified by the cdc until 1981, but the earliest cases have been retroactively diagnosed as far back as the 1959, and the virus was believed to have mutated to a human affecting virulent during the french colonial period of cameroon, which was from ww1 to 1960
wytkracka 4 years ago
yeah...and dude, I'm only 16. I am still learning here. If you have something to teach me, then by all means, do so.
slotho122 4 years ago
slotho, Get as much info as you can, pro and con, right and left. Listen to what the message is, not who the messenger is. Look for those who start dialog, not those who try to "win" an argument with personal attack.
SamuRyjak 4 years ago
*architect of the cuban labor system
wytkracka 4 years ago
let me guess you read and saw all this from CNN ans some capitalist book. Go to Cuba talk to Cubans!! Not Cubans who live in Miami who hate Castro because they cannot get jeans or a new car.
silatk 4 years ago
lol, please tell us, enrique, where do you get your plethora of information from? (for you have surely outdone me here) "go to cuba and talk to cubans"? lol, so they can repeat the drivel spewed by castro's ministry of information? yeah, cuz they never have to deal with censorship there.
wytkracka 4 years ago
Or perhaps locked in jail because they had the audacity to dissent? Or practice their faith freely? Or express themselves in any way shape or form? Let me ask you... why are you in the States?
erik23forever 4 years ago
I really liked that one.
hesperella83 4 years ago
great work dude@!
viva che
and now i want this on a t-shirt :$
qrm 4 years ago
lol, great idea, grm, "capitalism sucks! can i buy that from you?"
wytkracka 4 years ago
Good Job man... iam from Argentina and is a honor see you work like tribute... THANX!!!!
CHE´s NOT DEAD NO!
ezequielpethead 4 years ago
if anyone asks you to make this into a shirt, and if you let a company make said shirt...let me know i would definetly buy one!
funkmasternick 4 years ago
wow
andyedgerz 4 years ago
LULZ CHE GUEVARA, I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS OR WHAT HE DID BUT HE SURE IS COOL.
ugh...
FASCANTRON 4 years ago 2
lol best comment here
wytkracka 4 years ago
why thank you :D
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KoKoJo5 4 years ago
amazing!!bravoooo!!
rogue43 4 years ago
Great of a man who truely died defending his ideas!!
silatk 4 years ago
this should be on a t-shirt
it would totally top any che guevara t-shirt made thus far
myfirstlovemusic 4 years ago
el Che Guevara es una de las personas con más huevos, cojones, agallas de la historia de la humanidad. Las palabras que no concuerdan con los hechos no son importantes. Y ese es su legado, la entrega de su vida por sus ideales, la acción, la práctica revolucionaria. VIVA EL CHE CARAJO!
maybechiapas 4 years ago
lindo...
tchelo98 4 years ago
you are the next picasso
caz5021 4 years ago
Hello I am from Portugal. I am amazed not only by the artistic techniques u use and the beauty on the forms they can produce, but above all for your commitment to your art bringing it to another level of significance. About the themes you use, I appreciate the freedom you enjoy as an artist, and I hope you can remain always brilliant.
lmccosta 4 years ago
It would be kind of funny and ironic if you did a piece about the terrorists who are actually responsible for the deaths of the soldiers in your Bush piece. They would cut off your head and they could call it "Bust of a Jackass".
shawnhawkins 4 years ago
wtf!!
Stonerzindamist 4 years ago
Che was a beast
gamejunky420 4 years ago
who is che anyways but iv seen that pic somewhere befor
aboulazm8 4 years ago
he was an asshole who was executed by the bolivian police on 1967...he worked with Fidel Castro.
Stonerzindamist 4 years ago
Che ideals not Castro's nor communism threaten the Capitalist world. Reason why the CIA had him executed!
silatk 4 years ago
phil thanks for my new obsession..your art...my new lifes goal is to obtain an origianl piece.
niteowl4861 4 years ago
Fantastic !!! very cool...
cyndalee 4 years ago
so COOL
jackxalackx3 4 years ago
why is everyone arguing about communism? just enjoy the art.
somecallmesam 4 years ago
because this art work......represents communism!
Stonerzindamist 4 years ago
Try to understand communism but first visit Cuba. See what you think afterwards. Go by what you see there not what you see on the US news.
silatk 4 years ago
Silatk... I really don't want to talk politics on this page but are you Cuban? I'm not, but I live in S. Florida and know many Cubans, I have never heard a good word be spoken regarding Castro.
erik23forever 4 years ago
Che and Castro are two separate idiologies. CAstro change and Che didn't. Che stands for styaing strong with your ideals. that is all no politics. I know people that live in cuba. They hate the US!!
silatk 4 years ago
big deal i know people that are from cube, they hate cuba.
wytkracka 4 years ago
*cuba, duhr
wytkracka 4 years ago
You said it! They are from Cuba but they do not live in Cuba. dont believe everything CNN or Capitalist books tell you. I would tell you to read more about democracy but there is no such thing as Democracy. Not at least in this country.
silatk 4 years ago
please, no culture is known better for propaganda and censorship than the communist and marxist regimes you fetishize.
wytkracka 4 years ago
There is a popular saying; "Communism is good on paper, but horrible in practice", that is absolute nonsense. Communism is a wrenched sheep like ideology on paper, and a wrenched oppressive sheeplike ideology in practice. Enjoy your freedom of speech sir.
erik23forever 4 years ago
Sil, you opening state your frustation with the U.S. gov. and you live in the U.S.. In Cuba there is no such thing, without prison. Are you a religious man? In Cuba, your faith is to be only partially practiced. To you enjoy venturing freely? Not in Cuba, your movement is restricted to areas not inhibited by tourists. Those people who do not "live" in Cuba but are from Cuba, risked their lives to be here, for no reason? Abandoning paradise? At the risk of your own life?
erik23forever 4 years ago