U bastards have been predicting your "Rapture" for centuries. None of your BULLSHIT is fit for human consumption. I just hope your offspring R smart enough to ESCAPE from you SICK RELIGION ! And son't accuse me of "worshipping you Devil" the other deity U SICK BASTARDS believe in ! ! ! !
@Avalon400 Wisdom has been making a fool out of foolishness from the beginning....why so anxious to show which is your mother when wisdom has nothing to do with your comments? Let wisdom speak: men have been predicting the coming of Messiah since the Garden of Eden when the first prophecy was given. From it came the first false religion in Babel which has spawned every religion afterward(including Catholicism). Messiah came and will come...why else is it 2011(from His birth?).
Why does everyone think that when a person goes through tribulation that they had to go through the great tribulation spoken of in revelation. Tribulation is tribulation, it does not require near-death experience. Just because someone had the seal of GOD on their forehead and went through the 7yr great trib as we call it. We assume things too much. We are going through trib right now- look around the world people. How much trib do u want to go through? i will wait and hope on the Lords coming.
@1986TruthSeeker Great point. People dont realize the perversion of thinking God wants men to go through the Great Tribulation...thats as wicked as thinking God wants men to go to Hell. God is the one who made both things and He did so justly, giving us many ways to escape ever having to endure such things(with many warnings). Jesus said the Tribulation will be the worst time earth has ever seen...God warns us of it that we might avoid it seeing there is no way to cope during it.
@TheAussiekangaroo u do know that the first time jesus comes back its in the clouds to gather and the second time he comes with saints (he gathered already) and touches down on the mount of olives right? wouldn't u save ur bride? more will become his bride but with beheading. Do u know about God's holy days? Everything Jesus did in history happened on these days. This is what I believe after studying the subject.
Thank you for this. This would absolutely explain why there is so much confusion over when these events will take place. Many also feel that they will be taken at different times, they feel it in their spirit and are adamant that this is how it will be for them, well, here you go! Thank you.
I'm most grateful for this video. I saw it a long time ago, and it made me fear the Lord. I am wiser now. I'll never forget this video. I don't know what i'd do without it.
@SparkyFirecracker Wow and thank you for sharing...Im very glad it was a blessing to you and hope it will continue to be a source of light pointing to God and His Kingdom.
@jamlimited3 You're very welcome. I can tell you must've worked hard on this video, and it really convicted me. I couldn't sleep for a week when I first saw it, lol. I wasn't in a very good place spiritually at the time, though. After growing closer with the Lord and my walk with Him it doesn't scare me very much now. I too pray that this video helps others the same way it has helped me.
@TheAussiekangaroo Well if you say you have the Holy Spirit, I feel inclined to take you for your word. Basically though you must know that we are in the age of information...the time near His coming when the MANY things hidden are revealed(less they have no purpose). Just as we see Jesus all through the Old Testament via prophetic scriptures...just as we see a repeated cycle of events such as 2 spies doing what the 2 witnesses WILL do, we also NOW see MANY pretrib pictures.
@TheAussiekangaroo You should ask God for the Holy Spirit and the ability to discern why the Bible has no likeness on earth. The Bible isnt a stale religious book filled with supposed words from God that it might be confused with the Koran....rather the book is prophetic in that future KINGDOM things can be spoken of all the while hidden from THOSE WHO DONT HAVE EYES TO SEE. Not believing in a pretrib rapture will not condemn but it will leave you unprepared. Try watching this video again.
Hmmm. I gotta say it is interesting. I cant really say it is fully truth as no one on earth understands prophecy till it happens. but you have done your homework and i have learned alot of new things from this Video. Very interesting that 2 lambs are sacrificed almost as portraying God sacrificing the two witnesses before He comes at the End at the millenial reign with his saints. Very good job i have to say. I am very interested. PUts a new light on some things i have not noticed before. :)
@psyclone108 Amen amen and glad to be a blessing. Studying the Rapture and finding any(if any) prophetic insight based on scripture was my obsession and I believe I was favored to see this comparison after observing many prophecy teacher's theories and correcting my theology when I saw error. You might enjou my video title "Unleavened Bread". It has a focus concerning the insight I believe I found on the pretrib rapture.
Do you have any idea how arrogant and self-righteous it is to say that God has given you an answer to EVERY question...? By the way. coming up on three years since you posted this...need another 2,000?
@202rickh My faith is like that which produces action, study, and results...unlike the lack of faith which reveals the difference between those of the Kingdom and those who arent. Now if you think 3 years is a long time you are looking out of small circles. The last 100 years are like none other since the beginning of mankind. Keep your bitterness to yourself, Jesus will still come as He did the first time among mockers who doubted Messiah's appearing. God is righteous in answering wisely.
"The RAPTURE is a FALSE teaching. Read the Bible for yourselves people. Mathew 24:10-23, John 17:14, Revelations 12:17, 1st Corinth. 15:50-52, Zachariah 9:14-17, 2nd Thess. 2:1-17. There is nothing in the Bible that refers to a rapture before the 2nd coming of Christ. He only comes twice. We all have to prove ourselves during the Tribulation. Once people realize there is no Rapture people will turn away from the church this is called the "FALLING AWAY"."
@iam7who7iam7 You said He ONLY comes twice...that in itself is NOT true as He has already came and gone many times. To go to heaven isnt some task that takes the God of creation hours to venture. As He FIRST came unexpectedly as a baby and LAST will come in glory as expected, so did He FIRST appear to Mary secretly (all Mary's in scripture picture His Bride/people) denying her touch before LAST appearing before ALL apostles excepting their touch because He then HAD been to heaven.
@jamlimited3 What scripture is that in the Bible. John 20:17 says don't cling to me because I have NOT yet ascended to my Father and your Father. Read the Bible man. Why does he call it the 2nd coming??? Because he only comes twice. Once when he was a baby and once during the Tribulation period when he comes for his people and to destroy the Anti-Christ. Tell me when has he come many times??? Send me the scripture.
@iam7who7iam7 Ive already proven the complications of movement in His 1st coming concerning the days of His resurrection in which He did NOT stay on the earth the whole time. It will be the same. Read your Bible and you will find the "Tribulation Saints" segregated and judged SEPARATELY for a REASON. As scripture says, the dead in Christ will rise FIRST and we who are alive will be caught up to MEET THEM in the clouds(away) but such is hidden just as Jesus spoke in parables to confuse some.
@iam7who7iam7 So with that said you see the dead in Messiah(from ages past) gathered WITH a group of living people to be TAKEN AWAY unlike the Trib Saints gathered only amongst themselves. Again refer to my comment as you are obviously aware of the scripture in which Mary IS NOT allowed to touch Him at His FIRST resurrected appearing(dont be confused by old english translations when modern translations exist). Days later when He appears to EVERYONE, He ALLOWS even the doubter to touch Him.
@iam7who7iam7 Please send me Old Testament scriptures saying that Christ would come twice? If you read the bible as a novel the old testament dose not seam to suggest 2 comings but only one. God rewards those who DILLIGENTLY seek Him with knowledge, wisdom and understanding of scripture. Also, please tell me who the people are in Malichi 3:16 that are not only spared from wrath as a father spares his own son but they shall RETURN to judge between wicked and rightous.
@DaddyOjavenjack There is no old testement scripture. But understand Revelations 7:1-14 This proves there is no Pre-tribulation Rapture. Because one of verse 14 HELLOOOOOOOOOO. These 144,000 with the seal on there head have come OUT of the tribulation. To come OUT means you have to go through the tribulation RIGHT???????????
@iam7who7iam7 How does seeing 144,000 jewish men come OUT of the tribulation debunk the coming of Jesus before the pretribulation to take ALL of the dead in Christ up in the sky along with we who remain? It doesnt. Religious mindsets have defined pretrib midtrib and postrib to the point in which people speak ignorantly. However, Jesus comes at the end for a FACT which is NOT a time of peace and safety(but bloodshed and death among all mankind) thus we KNOW He comes BEFORE then as well.
@DaddyOjavenjack He came once to die for our sins and he will be back after the trib to get his people the 144,000 understand who the 144,000 is NOAH-SHEM- ABRHAM- IASSAC-JACOB... NOW COMES THE 12 TRIBES THEY ARE ALL BLACK HEBREWS SCATTERED ACROSS THE EARTH. How are they black because when Joseph was sold to the Egyptians who were black. He later had his family come to Egypt and they could not recognize him. If he was white among all of the black Egyptians the would have recognized him easily.
@iam7who7iam7 You speak as a fool. The color of the MAJORITY of mankind is light brown and dark brown but the majority of the world are NOT Israelites nor BLACK Hebrew Israelites. Indians from India arent considered black but they are blacker than me(Im black). Israelites are middle eastern people and share the features of middle eastern people and STILL have middle eastern enemies whom HAVENT forgotten what they look like(and egyptians btw are mostly middle eastern looking people). Wake up
No one knows exactly when the rapture will be. The bible isn't totally clear on that. We should prepare for the worst and hope for the best. If you do not choose to prepare, you only have yourself to blame. It is a mystery, get it? We shouldn't sit around and not prepare for hard times, especially when bible scholars argue.
There is no secret rapture. There is only the second coming, which is judgement day. The belief in the secret rapture cannot be justified with scripture. The passages about one being taken in the field and such in Matthew is about the siege of Jersusalem, not abou the rapture. Too many false teachings being taught.
@BoyintheMachine People who say "there is no secret rapture" are those who say Matthew 24 is talking about the end of the Tribulation and there is NO WAY that is possible. At the end of the Tribulation people will not be eating and drinking and getting married unaware of the return of Messiah...on the contrary the world suffers devastation like NEVER before never to be repeated and those who choose God are opposed by those who curse God and His dwelling place.
Not the end of the tribulation. When Jesus is talking about workers in the field and one being taken, he is talking about the seige of Jerusalem, not a rapture. That person that disappears is either killed or taken by force as a slave. There is only one second coming. It's not Jesus' 3rd or 4th coming, which is what Secret Rapture adherents believe in.
@BoyintheMachine Actually thats your own misinterpretation. Jesus said if the Master COMES BACK to find the SERVANT doing wrong, HE will punish that servant. Also He says if the master of the house knew when the thief was coming, he would not let Him and in this Messiah compares Himself to be the THIEF IN THE NIGHT. Lastly He "TAKES"(GREEK:paralambano=close/intimately) one and "LEAVES"/forsakes the other. The Jews of old thought such as you too, and they were mistaken..complexity exists.
There's nothing in those passages about punishing servents doing wrong. I'm sorry, but the Secret Rapture, the belief that dominates modern Christianity, is not supported by the bible. It began as a hypothesis and overtime it was taught as if it was doctrine. It's not. There is only one second coming in Christinity, not 3 or 4 as demanded by believers in the Secret Rapture.
@BoyintheMachine Since you show ignorance to the scriptures COMMONLY known, I'll cut short...but please read your Bible more. MATTHEW 24:48 But and if that evil SERVANT shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming...MATTHEW 24:50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh NOT for him, and in an hour that he is NOT AWARE OF, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
The majority of Christians in America are going to hell. They are not saved. According to Billy Graham's evangelical formula, 75% of people who come forward at altar calls are false converts, i.e. not saved. Paul Washer estimates that only 10-15% of people in Evangelical Churches are born again, the rest are fakes. Ask yourself why the belief in the secret rapture has grown to dominate American Christianity. A manmade teaching for fake Christians.
@BoyintheMachine Lastly, of course most Christians are not saved...most Christians only have a religion. God never called men to be CHRISTIANS...Adam didnt lose Christianity and Jesus didnt preach a religion...rather the Kingdom of God was lost by Adam and preached by Jesus and thus only those few who FIND the narrow road even have the chance of walking it. Billy Graham doesnt need to tell me what Jesus already speaks in the scriptures but the Holy Spirit teaches things hidden in plain sight.
thats left out, not left behind, the daniel prophsies were fullfilled by 70 a.d., the truth will set u free, the end will come like a thief in the night, no one knows when the master of the house will return.
Ok then by your udnerstanding God hates us because he gave us free will, warned us of the consequences of our foolishness before we commited it, warned us of the plagued of disobedience that would bring judgment on our sons do to our own wickedness, and then came down despite all of this to save some by Himself dying in our place when He alone is the great I AM, the one who created existence and the laws and structure that is the KINGDOM of Life(not a religion)....thou fool.
I dont see a 7 year trib..I see a 3 1/2 yr. trib. And the beast is told to Daniel as being a nation! Chapter 7. The false prophet is that who you refer to as the Islam faith?...2 horns, political and religious..but one has the mouth and power?...I think there are differant gatherings, yet all at the same time,or very close,Rev.11 after the 2 witnesses live,right at the 7th trumpet it happens within an hour.
Read Revelation 11 carefully....events LEAD UP TO the Abomination that causes Desolation. Is that Abomination the beginning of the Tribulation? No, yet that abomination begins the last 42 months of the Tribulation in which the Antichrist tramples. 42 months of Gentiles trampling the temple, yet we are told for 3 and 1/2 years worshippers will have the temple even as 2 witnesses will "torment" the inhabitnants of the earth. The 7th trumpet isnt the end but the beginning of the 7 plagues.
i agree...I think the trib starts mid the peace treaty as Daniel told us, the 3 1/2 yrs we're told many times in Rev. as being that trib. Rev. 11 is the summing up of it all just prior to the 7th trumpet which is Armageddon..whether plagues start then or not??...the wrath of God does.
What you said is hard to make sense of....so let me reiterate: for 3 and 1/2 years the temple of God will be and worshipers will have it...ALSO for 3 and 1/2 years aka 42 months the antichrist will be triumphant and the temple will be trampled on by gentiles. These two periods are referred to over and over in scripture HENCE when you say that you dont see a seven year tribulation all you have to do is reconcile the fact that 3 and 1/2 isnt a random number but a LITERAL half as clearly shown.
Also we KNOW when the plagues start as the 7th trumpet includes the announcement of the 7 plagues beginning. You first must reconcile that the tribulation is 7 years. After youve done this, with a sharp eye you can best place the trumpets based on the 3 key events of the trib: the beginning, middle, and end of the Trib and with sharp study youll see the 2 witneses die at the middle hence the trumpets span the 1st half of the trib and the plagues span the 2nd half(the seals span the entirety).
@lucy9359 ...Why can't it?...This generation shall not pass until all these things take place. Seems like 100 yrs. and its all happening---1st trumpet was WW1, 2nd was WW2...only events that couldve killed so many people....and WW3 is coming soon!
Maybe not but it sure lines up....Ukraine nuclear melt down sounds like 4th trumpet, wormwood meaning--Chernobyl...watch?v=101OEaksU0s
@lucy9359 ...Thanks for the invite..God Bless you and yours.
I want to point you to an awesome video here on YT that I watched called "Daniel's Timeline"..it seems very accurate on the dates of prophecy leading to the end..his intense study also proves a post trib rapture also..
The vid's time frame puts us as this year being the 1st of the 7th.(last 7 yrs.)..so we are looking for the peace treaty to be signed soon...it's good..let me know what u think
@lucy9359 ..1 Thes.2;4--But you are not in [given up to the power of] darkness, brethren, for that day to overtake you by surprise like a thief....
So he doesn't come as a thief to the saved but to the lost....for we know his word and the spirit tells us....Rev.2 also tells the church will suffer many days at the end..be put in prisons,etc...
@anddihier I don't believe it is nescessary to spend my time pinpointing time lines none the less we agree on one thing better get soul winning because we are running out of time. So lead as many people to the Lord as you can God Bless
@lucy9359 ....I do happen to think the word is the most important thing we have or he wouldnt have given it to us concerning the endtimes...but so true the (pin) pointing is most for sure to try and reach as many as will listen and come to HIM...if they only knew what they were missing by not knowing HIM....
Study to show thyself approved, rightly dividing the word of truth!!!
@anddihier you know some ppl have had dreams saying in their dream ppl were being separated into categories, maybe ur right about different gatherings within an hour.
@1986TruthSeeker I like it he doesnt include a winter harvest---and why is because God says to pray that your flight be not in the winter....and he answers prayer so it wouldn't be right?
Are you trying to say that the First Fruits represent the Rapture preceding the Second Coming? If this is so, this is false. The First Fruits was Jesus Christ's resurrection, along with many righteous who were resurrected at that time. Matthew 27:51-54
I mention this as I go in depth at the end of this video showing the repeated and UNCHANGING cycle of Firstfruits, Harvest, and Ingathering as it apples ON the three harvests and ALL 3 on WITHIN each individual harvest. By your objection(which has no grounds...your objection that is, not the scripture) I can say your statement is false as the 144,000 in the end times are called the Firstfruits(Rev 14:4). Jumping to conclusions is foolish...asking questions is wise. Ask and Ill explain.
(cont) To be clear(I typed that rather fast) Im showing you that saying Im false by that scripture you used is as foolish as me saying Jesus ISNT the firstfruits based on the scripture I just presented. Wisdom says there is a way thats eems right yet leads to death...such is religion(as the pharisees had) and the wide road many walk versus the Kingdom(which Adam lost and Jesus preached) which is a narrow road few even find. So be blessed and be slow to conclude...ask and Ill answer you.
The 144,000 are Jewish MEN who temporarily refrained from sex to be consecrated to meet/serve the Lord's purposes. They are the FULFILLMENT of what the Levites PICTURED as the Levites were taken AS firstfruits since God commanded the firstborn of EVERY Israelite be given to Him then justified this(Nu 7:16-18). This fits the PICTURE of the first Pentecost(Ex 19:1 and 19:13-19) and the ritual of the MID-feast(Pentecost) hence they are part of the midtrib event(more affirmations exist).
People arguing about the meaning of religious text is as silly as people arguing about the meaning of a mysterious plot to a deep fictional story(such as seen in a novel, movie, or even a video game). There are intentionally unanswered questions to let your mind wonder and your imagination to attempt filling the gaps with what you believe makes the most sense...though in truth, there are no correct answers, because both religion and fiction are merely tools for their creator/controller's profit.
You have no idea that Adam neevr lost a religion, Jesus never preached a religion, nor will God bring a religion at this inevitable climax. The pharisees had religion but Jesus still came and preached against them...who then was the God of Messiah's religion? He revealed and preched a kIngdom hence when standing before a governor He mentioned His army and confessed He indeed was the King of the Jews. Kingdoms have laws and prison...beware of your rebellion against God's Kingdom of Existence.
Rev, 22;11 suggests there is a difference between rightous and holy. there are 144,000 virgin jewish men that miss rapture because they dont know Jesus, as the Messiah. They are rightous, not holy
You assume that they are virgins but God doesnt display any purpose for virgin men in all of scripture only to RANDOMLY reveal a certain place for them at the end. God is a God who makes sense when sharing information with us like a master communicator of intellect. They DO fit a mold seen in scripture as men are told to CONSECRATE themselves to meet the Lord by refraining from sex with their wives...even told this before meeting the Lord on the first mention of Pentecost Exo 19:15
What part of the insight of this video dont you understand? The part that destroys your theology? Correct theology comes by being tested and proven...not by being hidden. Such is the proof of faith...action witnessed in favor of the belief versus those who say they believe but cannot and will not act and prove their faith valid. So I ask you what part of meeting Jesus in the clouds do you not understand...I know who inherits the earth but do you know prophetic layering? I think not.
The concept of the Rapture was concocted by restorationists in the 1800's. The Early Church Fathers did not have this eschatological view at all. The Rapture is entirely unbiblical and not a part of Christian tradition. This video is an example of how certain denominations use proof texting in order to attempt to show a particular doctrinal stance.
So Paul was from the 1800s when he told us that a departure shall take place before the man of lawlessness is revealed. Also he said the dead in Christ will meet those who are alive in Christ in the sky transformed into immortal bodies(UNLIKE the tribulation saints who are resurrected BY THEMSELVES at the end of the Tribulation with the survivors UNCHANGED). Jesus must too be from the 1800s when He spoke of coming in peace/safety times vs global holocaust famine and plagues of the Tribulation.
Ya that's when the 7th trump is sounded notice also it says with a (SHOUT) nothing secret about a shout does everyone skip that part? That the trump blown by micheal in saying Lord of Lords King of Kings is returned coming with all power and glory and we gather to him and the dead also. Not a rapture there! Paul is reassuring them that there dead love ones will see and participate in Christ's return and yes rapture believe did not get preached til early 1800s! Ya have to study history too!!
You claim to know which angel will blow which trumpet but you dont know the word. You arent even aware which half of the Tribulation the 2 witnesses come because if you were youd know that the second half is the 42 months of the Beast's authority vs the first half which the Jews have the temple through the 2 witnesses. SHORTLY after the woe of their death is the 7th trumpet(not the last trump). Jesus preached rapture in Matt 24...days of peace and safety(unlike the global holocaust to come).
The rapture is in the bible, it happens before the tribulation. You are mis-guided, read ur bible. Christians will be gone before the anti christ is revealed.
Exactly! No different than a Garden. Firstfruits are those that are picked over time. Then the Rapture, since in Rev. it talks about the Churches, and then during the supper some new people appear and the people ask "Who are these?" It is told to them that they r the ones who suffered the Tribulation. Also note that Lot was saved BEFORE S&G were destroyed. Then the last harvest will be those Martyred, just like a winepress- their blood will be spilled. It's common sense.
First fruits arent picked over time...your understanding of the God given Jewish practice isnt accurate. Firstfruits are picked BEFORE any harvesting begins hence FIRST. Then AFTER the main harvest over time begins and last the gleaning of the few remaining from the four corners of the field begins. Hidden within the stories of old and the Feasts are many clear pictures including what takes place in the 3 steps of harvest. 3 crowds exist in revelation...can you rightly divide/apply them?
Hi back =) God gave me this particular word based on my previous experiences with God I can discern it was a word of knowledge. I've seen a multitude of signs wonders, many miracles of the Lord. I'm not sure what you mean by what sort of Christian am I as far as I'm concerned there is only 1 kind 1 who knows Christ is our Lord and savior that He died for our sins and rose again that He is the only way the truth and the life. Thanks for getting back with me.
Ive been doing a study of this myself, and I am going to have to agree with this info concerning the harvests.
Ive always wondered how people can say that the church must go through the tribulation. The word itself comes from "tribulum" which was a tool used for pressing and crushing wheat.
Why must we, who are soft hearted and not part of the world be crushed? Crushing Barley will ruin it. Only the hard heartedness of wheat must be crushed to separate it from the chaff.
Amen. As prophetic layering shows the story of Messiah in Joseph's life as well as many others...so does prophetic layering show detailed previews of the events of the 2 witnesses as we see 2 spies are repeatedly seen all through scripture even dealing with a harlot or wicked city. Likewise we see previews of the Lord's unexpected coming...even in the events of Noah and his 7 days of preparation after being warned. The end of the Tribulation will be a time even God's enemies expect Him.
What do you mean "why must we?" Why did Jesus have to suffer and die? Why did the apostles have to suffer and die? The early Christians? All the persecutions of the Roman empire? And you ask yourself why? You think you should get a free ride huh? Not gonna happen. There is no pre-tribulation rapture, and that is a biblical fact. You have to understand this. I did a video on it. It's on my homepage. Check it out. You need to be ready, not for the rapture, but for the testing of your faith.
You have a jaded understanding of events...you think the Tribulation is a walk in the park and have no clue what is implied in statements like "if He does not come back at that time, no one would be left". When Jesus returns at the END of the harvest He will gather the FEW...I repeat FEW remaining Elect from the 4 winds like gleanings are gathered LAST from the 4 corners. Believers died in ALL ages so that the MAJORITY could LIVE...thats happening now and until the day of harvest.
Are you not aware of why the Tribulation is the time "unequaled from the beginning of the world until now"? Havent you read what will happen to believers? Have you not read the numbers of the population that will die? Have you not understood the famine or why the wrath of God will come unmercifully at the climax of this last trial? Im not adding words because I dont quote like a parrot...Paul nor Jesus quoted in such a manor but Matt 24:22 is one of many that illustrate so FEW will survive.
What does that mean in english? If you cant speak english how could you watch and comment on my video written in english? Glory to God for wisdom huh...^__^
Hehehe good one! I pray everyone who doesnt already, gets filled with the Holy Spirit after watching my videos! Then they too can bust out into tongues and start saying "dude esti cam bou sorry dar asta este!" hehehe and maybe somebody will get the gift of interpretation!
when people predicted the "dates" orthe "years"maybe God coming,he won't ,he said when NO ONE is expecting him to come he will come like the ATHEIF, who is going to snatch you up SILENT without no one knowing what had happened ,so people say this year might be the year,no i doubt thatgod created everything so when he says he is going tocome like a theif at night , he will come as atheif, thewhole WORLD will be in shock because it happened SO SILENT, soo you never know when jesus is gonna come :)
People predict the Lord's coming as they predicted the first coming of Messiah. MANY were wrong but some were right. People live DAILY expecting the return of Jesus, others predict dates which is fair, and others falsely prophesy dates. He will come like a thief in the sense that He will take valuables(children) and leave thus He WARNS of His coming which will be like a thief to THOSE left behind and those who dont watch. We watch in EXPECTATION...He will come when the watchers expect Him.
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The persecution by Antichrist during the Great Tribulation will be the wrath of Satan Rev 12:12, not the wrath of God. When the sign of the sun, moon and stars is given, the wrath of Satan against the elect will be terminated, the faithful of God will be raptured, then the wrath of God will begin on the wicked who remain, ending with the battle of Armegeddon. This puts the rapture sometime during the 2nd half of the "great" tribulation. There is only 1 Day of the Lord, 1 second coming. 1 "sign".
The devil, sin, and the curse has been at work since the Garden of Eden(Satan's wrath as you call it). However God was bruised and placed on the cross where He has FOREVER crushed Satan(and his wrath if you call it that). The Tribulation is a time of trial/judgment all under God's jurisdiction(God sends/allows the dillusion of the Antichrist according to 2 Thes). The Lord's day is the Sabbath(millenium) and the Lord's (complex)coming and (3step)harvest are 2 different things though linked.
Son 2:13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.
this time looks like late Spring for the rapture of the church.
I study deeply the rapture and I have found that in the prophetic layering in the New Testament gospels, this theory is affirmed over and over and over. I ll make a video about it. I am 100% in faith that the rapture of the Church will happen in the Passover season...the season Israel was commanded "in scripture" to keep vigil/watch for ALL the nations...they watch for Elijah's midnight cry(day of PREP). Sad for some, encouraging for others, 2012 is looking more like THE year(but who knows).
Its fair for one to hold to such a belief...the Lord would have us remain ready at all times and such expectation encourages that. Likewise men waited for Messiah's first coming and it worked in favor of the Lord's plans...however there is a LITERALLY day when He will come just as the LITERAL day when He came born as Messiah. A select few who watched closely knew when to expect Him...this IS indeed the season(any year now) but I am not one lacking profound insight on the specific events of it.
TIME HAS COME: GOD is revealing his secret unto his PROPHET and every PROPHETS is a "True Believers" The questions is, Are You A Believer? THE WORD OF GOD: whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing and a wise man's heart discerneth both "TIME and JUDGMENT." Because to every purpose there is "Time and Judgment", therefore the misery of man is great upon him. For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be? ECCLESIASTE 8:5-7 Thus, world end on 5/21/2011.
You wrongly divide the word showing yourself unapproved. The world is never going to end and the Lord's date setting has consistently since the beginning aligned with the feasts given to us for the prophetic purposes of seeking and knowing the important dates to come. I dont know if 5-21 is a feast date but I know it isnt the end of the world..."end of the world" is a religious-wordly term not linked to "good" biblical theology. The return of Jesus is the end of sin and it isnt 5-21-11.
Thats not true....the word church is the same word Congregation/Assembly used all through the whole Bible. God's plan to redeem adam-kind was for the Jews to be a light to the Gentiles yet all adam-kind deals with sin(hence the many rebellions of the ISrealites). Likewise in FULFILLLMENT of the prophetic word of God the Gentiles have seen the light of Messiah and now Jew and Gentile CAN both be of the Congregation versus the true HEATHENS whom too are both Jew and Gentile.
Def. of church- OE cirice Gk.neut.of kyriakos of the lord.Boils down to the house of Kurios=lord.While Circe was the goddess-doughter of Helios,the sun-deity.Dictionary of mythology.
Its found starting in the book of Genesis all the way through to the book of Revelation. If you ever wondered why seemingly random things happen, like Enoch being taken, I tell you these things happen to give a REPEATED example of whats to come. In such a way we see Messiah, the trinity, the rapture, the events of the 2 witnesses, and even the Antichrist in MOST every book. History still does this hence Hitler's mark saluting global agenda shadows the Antichrist to come. Watch my vids.
We praise Him with our lips and long to see Him as a child longs for its Father...being everlasting beings with an Eternal Father it might be years before we literally see Him but whats a few years in eternity? Like calling our dad on the phone we speak to Him often. Likewise we communicate with Him through Jesus, our passionate fiance. We open ourselves to Him like a wife to a husband. We welcome His Spirit, our best friend, with words knowing He is here now and we do this in song/praise.
Jamlimited3 you rock! I love the video, I have shared almost the same belief but I pictured it as the gentiles being cought up for 3 1/2 years then after that the dead in Christ rise and then the living but now you got me thinking. Thank you for this powerful video. Now you got me wanting to study the Word even more :-)
Im glad youre inspired! My recommendation is that you always ask the Lord what you seek and trust that He, being true living God, will lead you in the information. It took me a while to gain solid theology...I had to admit when I was wrong but that was easier to do when I witnessed an insightful teaching that was right before me. Today my rapture theology has VERY few weak points and is justified even with 100s of prophetic shadows and types. In this age all is being unlocked. Be blessed!
Dont spam my videos with your nonsense curly wolf...I am unlike the religious people you persecute daily in the name of religion. I am of the Kingdom and it is of power...I dont have a form of godliness with no power...your lack of truth immediatly testifies that you are of no power and a man of doctrine like the pharisees that THOUGHT they had salvation and the truth. We will know them by their fruits indeed(so says my Messiah who lives). God is here now(Holy Spirit)...listen to Him.
You mock like the thief on the cross...like him you speak in the wrong spirit and miss the profound truth of whats before you. Israel became a nation in 1948 right before the the 6,000 year mark since the time of Adam. Jesus reigns for 1,000 years when He returns because its a sabbath of rest. A day with the Lord is like 1,000...a prophetic parable. So indeed many have waited, not for the thing but ther person...we wait for JESUS and the dead in Christ who waited will too rise when He comes
Have u ever thought, what if it does happen? You sound like one that haven't experience being filled with the Holy Ghost like they were on the day of Pentecost. It's funny how those that really experience it can see the different. Those that haven't can't. But i pray for u that God will touch your heart like he did Pauls and start u on the right road so u don't be lost. God bless you! I'm not mad at u, i feel sad that u can't see. Read a book on the different. It can't hurt u.
Hal Linday's Book: " The Late Great Planet Earth". References where in the Bible he got the information in regards to the Book Of Revelations. Sand indeed is dropping fast to the other side of the hour glass and the newspapers are confirming the Bible 100% accurate. As Christ himself stated: Keep watch. Meaning, not only in the signs of the sky, but of the world system, and world events
Jesus Christ is the lord and Savior of my life, and All Glory is God's. Jesus is the only way to God.
AWESOME VIDEO. THIS IS WHAT I CALL RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH. People have distroted the loving Character of God. HE IS NOT A WIFE BEATER!!!! YOU DONN'T HAVE TO DIE TO PROVE YOUR LOVE FOR HIM. The only way you can prove your love for God is to OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS. People got things backwards!! See you at the rapture, brother!!! ^_^.
Your god has not had a single success yet. He made perfect angels. He made perfect humans on a perfect earth. He had a perfect son. And ALL of them end up tortured and dead. He ends up with a few thousand buddies to lay around paradise with for ever while ALL the rest are destroyed or tortured for eternity. Has there ever been a bigger loser? Ever? And you are banking that THIS time, this one last time, God is gonna hit the ball out of the park for you? Good luck with that!
You speak of perfection as if it were something youve known. Evil doubts good and thinks it can corrupt it proving it imperfect(like Satan does). Perfection isnt brainwashing your kids nor is it the act of never having problems. A right way creates a wrong way. God is perfection and HE created EXISTENCE(a Kingdom NOT a religion) that will never cease to grow. Sin will last a LITTLE longer and then never again. God has given us time that some might be saved...He warned us what would happen.
Your perception of the english translation is off. God however justifies His speech even by speaking....theologically its justified as we know a day with the Lord is like a 1,000 years which is a code emphasizing a 6,000 year plan(hence Jesus reigns on the Sabbath millenium for 1,000 years). He is also justified as He has said preach the gospel to ALL nations and gives signs of the end times explaining how BAD sin WILL become...His little longer isnt the same as your perception of it.
To be clear: the "harvest" is something that happens in the end times...at the end of all age and what happens in the harvest can be summed up as the righteous being taken away or harvested and the wicked being taken away or harvested. However God has given multiple insights on this harvest even using a literal harvesting structure He created. With such insight we get a more detailed understanding of God's harvesting mind...that cycle is simple: firstfruits, harvest, and gathering of gleaning
the rapture of the church is a lie!wake up people!read the bible for yourselves! i dont care who teaches this it is still a lie!who was taken out of the world the wheat or the tares??why is there so much confusion and debate at when the rapture will occur?most people just believe what they are told and do no real research,but instead they read the bible with there mind made up without really studying for themselves!
Actually many read and still find that they do not understand what they read. Jews read the Tora and the Prophets for MANY years and did not foresee the TWO DIFFERENT COMINGS of Messiah and today AGAIN people like you cannot see the difference between the TWO DIFFERENT COMINGS concerning the endtimes. Jesus comes for the Church(not the lukewarm foolish virgins whom will be left with the hypocrites) in a time of "peace and safety" yet returns for the FEW REMAINING Elect at earth's worst hour.
Yeah thousands of people have failed about their predictions about the armagedon, but I think it might be you, after all you are so smart you believe in talking snakes.
Thousands in Noah's day doubted the word of the Lord(not the word of Noah) and lost their lives. Thousands of Americans died on September 11th doubting the intentions of Islamic terrorists who were mere men. My predictions are as weighty as my predictions for the weather...if it doesnt snow and I said it might that doesnt merit me for your foolishness. Wisdom understands the science of hypothesis and prediction...my words are of man but God will return as His words will never pass away dude.
Tell them I said because they're man-made fairytale nobodys,not the true living God who sent His Son to die on the cross for our salvation and redemption and as our ONLY way to get to Heaven,that's why!
The Law of gravity text messaged you...it wants to know why you trust in it being enforced and respecting no man yet you have contempt for God's other laws such as the law of sin and death by which you die(guranteed to happen) and you go to Hell(spiritual death row in prison for breaking God's law of life as all men do thus we all need Jesus who died in our place with a sinless life)? Believing in God is just the first step in salvation...demons believe and are going to Hell...Judas believed.
Alright ! Another complete different aspect of the heresy of the secret or pretrib rupture. WOW. What next?? 13 different harvests and ruptures till he gets it right??
Mockers are silly and help fulfill scripture...there indeed must be foolish virgins and servants who say the coming of the Lord is far off and so live drunkenly with a mocking spirit. If you are so learned in prophetic cycles why have you not made a video explaining the FACT that the harvest cycle in Israel given from God has 3 steps that align with the 3 multitudes we see in Revelation? Why else segregate multitudes?(Gentiles, 144000, and Trib martyrs)...dont answer, you're blocked. ^__^
Correction: The 3 segregated multitudes in heaven are 1. The GREAT multitude of many nations(the Church), 2. The 144,000 Jewish MALE priests, and 3. The Trib Martyrs. These 3 groups are never mingled together for a reason...and if you give my theory a try you may find wisdom in actually UNDERSTANDING why including why the 2 witnesses start their ministry in the 1st half and why Jesus is crowned only at the end as he leads men how are given authority havign been judged and rewarded already.
if i say jesus is the way and the light and that the whole world should be christian you people would line up to pat me on the back but when i tell the truth that ALL religion is the biggest fraud the world has ever seen im evil and have no right to speak its ok for chistians to take over the world but if one person makes a stand there is a problem you are hippocrates and evil and in your own words evil shall be removed from the world
Actually this world wasnt made by man. Intelligent creation is proof of a creator. It just so happens the Creator of life is a KING and so the understanding of kingdoms and kingship(NOT religion) is a great way to understand He who claims to be its origin. HE died to restore the KINGDOM that was lost(by Adam) and He vows to end all rebellion against His LAW soon. His court is just and so He has tried very hard to justify sinful man but the deceived reject this and call it false RELIGION.
there are a lot of things in this world that i ponder over all of them pretty heavy. but religion is the only thing that i think will drive my insane. I want people who know the bible to discuss so things. I was raised in a Non Dinominational Christian Church and went away on my own path and now i am trying to get a view onit for my self instead of it being forced on me. so any one who can help plz do
Its as simple as this...Jesus never preached a religion and had the most problems with religious people. The religious people THOUGHT they were pleasing God and had access to the KINGDOM of God through the Word of God. Jesus corrected them in EVERY way and preached a KINGDOM...one that religious or non religious BOTH must enter to recieve life. Jesus came to save all sinners but had the most problems from those who THOUGHT they were justified...and indeed God opposes the proud. Watch my vids
I apologize for saying you speak like a gnostic...i feel Ive misinterpreted your statement in my quick thinking. However you do seem to be riding the fence and this not suprising when you have such insight which seems to foreshadow brilliants that is within you(unseen by me). Do tell me this though...do you lean to your own understanding or do you walk with the Spirit sensitive to His words?(who knows the mind of a man but the spirit...and we have the mind of MEssiah through the Spirit of God)
Satan, spoke so to God. Because God created him to be as such. He was once a chief part of the Elohim, a prehistoric pantheon of Angelic beings that were of the family of God, God being the absolute head. He still believes that he is doing good things for creation. Just as Judas and Pharaoh believed they were too. God willed it to be so. You cant be all powerful and in control of everything if you let people just do as they please. It is a serious contradiction in terms and reality.
You speak like a gnostic who doesnt know God. Are you aware that God does not change? The same God in scipture still remains on earth in the form of His SPirit. Study the Spirit of God and see how He acts...godly wisdom(the Apostles) is not like the wisdom of pharisees. Your type is defined by your words. God does not CONTROL everything(witchcraft)...He rules over and governs everything hence this is a universe of laws. God gave us Earth to rule and soon will fix our foolish errors on it.
At last someone else is saying what I figured out, by the grace and will of God, about the three Rapture views. But I didn't know about the harvest feast and Passover stuff until a few days ago. Makes sense though becuase an Angel came to me in April 1982 and told me to be ready for the Pre-trib rapture. But there are a few things that I don't beleive which I think is relgious error. Free-will for example is impossible in the presence of an all knowing and all powerful God.
Hehe, free will is impossible? So when Satan stood in the presence of God in the book of Job and spoke so irreverently saying "He will curse you to your face!" that was not a will apart from God's? What about the antichrist who will speak boldly before Jesus as he is being judged to be thrown into the lake of fire? God is All Powerful but let us never exclude His other parts and so misinterpret who He is(or scripture)...GOD IS LOVE and so being if we had no free will god would be a rapist.
It is imposible to have Free will, it does not exist. Albert Einstein proved it with the Law of First affect, and God said so in Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did PREDESTINATE to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. My friend, you know many things, but your knowlegde is not complete. You still beleive in Eternal Hell, you still beleive in Free will, you still beleive in the church. You still have many errors.
Dude you are misunderstanding that scripture. Predestination doesnt deny the freewill of men...IT WAS NOT GODS WILL FOR MAN TO SIN AGAINST HIM! Thus God will do away with sin forever and very soon at that. Predestination however says that God is allknowing, for who knows your destination but the one who knows all things? If God knows all things and acts on that knowledge then predestination exists but whats that to you? All you can do is act on your FREE WILL. God is no rapist.
During the end time, satan is going to take over. But we the christians will be raptured out. and it says the anti christ will do signs and wonders, fake ones. And people preach to watch out for them. Well if its goin on now and it gonna happen when "666" takes over,and we suppose to be raptured out. Well im sorry folks, we just missed the rapture. Yall say be ready to be raptured out, yet warn me bout these things when im gone? Which one is it? Sounds like fear 2 me.
Please reread what you typed and say again what you are saying because I have no clue whatsoever what you are saying, what view you hold, and who you are asking let alone what. hehe Im being serious.
I was in a hurry. The rapture wasnt even preached until the 1800s. Jesus came as a mustard seed. Instead of evil increasing until we have to be saved, i believe things will get better until Jesus returns. He will have a glorious church when He returns, i dont see too many of thoes kinds of churches around
Actual the rapture was preached as Paul instructed men to preach it and so encourage the poeple witht he message of the Lord's coming. Paul was clear in revealing and reiterating the order of events which included a catching away(rapture) and THEN a revealing of the Antichrist to decieve those who hate the truth. Its when religious minded godless men got their hands on scripture that its sound doctrine was not preached and mistranslations came of course. The Kingdom of God comes by force.
U bastards have been predicting your "Rapture" for centuries. None of your BULLSHIT is fit for human consumption. I just hope your offspring R smart enough to ESCAPE from you SICK RELIGION ! And son't accuse me of "worshipping you Devil" the other deity U SICK BASTARDS believe in ! ! ! !
U WACKOS HAVE NO HUMAN COMPASSION ! ! ! ! !
Avalon400 5 months ago
@Avalon400 Wisdom has been making a fool out of foolishness from the beginning....why so anxious to show which is your mother when wisdom has nothing to do with your comments? Let wisdom speak: men have been predicting the coming of Messiah since the Garden of Eden when the first prophecy was given. From it came the first false religion in Babel which has spawned every religion afterward(including Catholicism). Messiah came and will come...why else is it 2011(from His birth?).
jamlimited3 5 months ago
Why does everyone think that when a person goes through tribulation that they had to go through the great tribulation spoken of in revelation. Tribulation is tribulation, it does not require near-death experience. Just because someone had the seal of GOD on their forehead and went through the 7yr great trib as we call it. We assume things too much. We are going through trib right now- look around the world people. How much trib do u want to go through? i will wait and hope on the Lords coming.
1986TruthSeeker 7 months ago
@1986TruthSeeker Great point. People dont realize the perversion of thinking God wants men to go through the Great Tribulation...thats as wicked as thinking God wants men to go to Hell. God is the one who made both things and He did so justly, giving us many ways to escape ever having to endure such things(with many warnings). Jesus said the Tribulation will be the worst time earth has ever seen...God warns us of it that we might avoid it seeing there is no way to cope during it.
jamlimited3 6 months ago
@TheAussiekangaroo u do know that the first time jesus comes back its in the clouds to gather and the second time he comes with saints (he gathered already) and touches down on the mount of olives right? wouldn't u save ur bride? more will become his bride but with beheading. Do u know about God's holy days? Everything Jesus did in history happened on these days. This is what I believe after studying the subject.
1986TruthSeeker 7 months ago
Thank you for this. This would absolutely explain why there is so much confusion over when these events will take place. Many also feel that they will be taken at different times, they feel it in their spirit and are adamant that this is how it will be for them, well, here you go! Thank you.
MarsBar2012 7 months ago
@MarsBar2012 You are very welcome and glory to God!
jamlimited3 7 months ago
I'm most grateful for this video. I saw it a long time ago, and it made me fear the Lord. I am wiser now. I'll never forget this video. I don't know what i'd do without it.
SparkyFirecracker 7 months ago
@SparkyFirecracker Wow and thank you for sharing...Im very glad it was a blessing to you and hope it will continue to be a source of light pointing to God and His Kingdom.
jamlimited3 7 months ago
@jamlimited3 You're very welcome. I can tell you must've worked hard on this video, and it really convicted me. I couldn't sleep for a week when I first saw it, lol. I wasn't in a very good place spiritually at the time, though. After growing closer with the Lord and my walk with Him it doesn't scare me very much now. I too pray that this video helps others the same way it has helped me.
SparkyFirecracker 7 months ago
@TheAussiekangaroo Well if you say you have the Holy Spirit, I feel inclined to take you for your word. Basically though you must know that we are in the age of information...the time near His coming when the MANY things hidden are revealed(less they have no purpose). Just as we see Jesus all through the Old Testament via prophetic scriptures...just as we see a repeated cycle of events such as 2 spies doing what the 2 witnesses WILL do, we also NOW see MANY pretrib pictures.
jamlimited3 10 months ago
@TheAussiekangaroo You should ask God for the Holy Spirit and the ability to discern why the Bible has no likeness on earth. The Bible isnt a stale religious book filled with supposed words from God that it might be confused with the Koran....rather the book is prophetic in that future KINGDOM things can be spoken of all the while hidden from THOSE WHO DONT HAVE EYES TO SEE. Not believing in a pretrib rapture will not condemn but it will leave you unprepared. Try watching this video again.
jamlimited3 10 months ago
Hmmm. I gotta say it is interesting. I cant really say it is fully truth as no one on earth understands prophecy till it happens. but you have done your homework and i have learned alot of new things from this Video. Very interesting that 2 lambs are sacrificed almost as portraying God sacrificing the two witnesses before He comes at the End at the millenial reign with his saints. Very good job i have to say. I am very interested. PUts a new light on some things i have not noticed before. :)
psyclone108 11 months ago
@psyclone108 Amen amen and glad to be a blessing. Studying the Rapture and finding any(if any) prophetic insight based on scripture was my obsession and I believe I was favored to see this comparison after observing many prophecy teacher's theories and correcting my theology when I saw error. You might enjou my video title "Unleavened Bread". It has a focus concerning the insight I believe I found on the pretrib rapture.
jamlimited3 11 months ago
Right on video Jam! Well done friend!
Isaac0711 1 year ago
@Isaac0711 Hey! THANKYOU! ^__^
jamlimited3 1 year ago
Big fan of the season of the barley and the season of the hops.
rumplestiffskin 1 year ago
Do you have any idea how arrogant and self-righteous it is to say that God has given you an answer to EVERY question...? By the way. coming up on three years since you posted this...need another 2,000?
202rickh 1 year ago
@202rickh My faith is like that which produces action, study, and results...unlike the lack of faith which reveals the difference between those of the Kingdom and those who arent. Now if you think 3 years is a long time you are looking out of small circles. The last 100 years are like none other since the beginning of mankind. Keep your bitterness to yourself, Jesus will still come as He did the first time among mockers who doubted Messiah's appearing. God is righteous in answering wisely.
jamlimited3 1 year ago 2
"The RAPTURE is a FALSE teaching. Read the Bible for yourselves people. Mathew 24:10-23, John 17:14, Revelations 12:17, 1st Corinth. 15:50-52, Zachariah 9:14-17, 2nd Thess. 2:1-17. There is nothing in the Bible that refers to a rapture before the 2nd coming of Christ. He only comes twice. We all have to prove ourselves during the Tribulation. Once people realize there is no Rapture people will turn away from the church this is called the "FALLING AWAY"."
iam7who7iam7 1 year ago
@iam7who7iam7 You said He ONLY comes twice...that in itself is NOT true as He has already came and gone many times. To go to heaven isnt some task that takes the God of creation hours to venture. As He FIRST came unexpectedly as a baby and LAST will come in glory as expected, so did He FIRST appear to Mary secretly (all Mary's in scripture picture His Bride/people) denying her touch before LAST appearing before ALL apostles excepting their touch because He then HAD been to heaven.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@jamlimited3 What scripture is that in the Bible. John 20:17 says don't cling to me because I have NOT yet ascended to my Father and your Father. Read the Bible man. Why does he call it the 2nd coming??? Because he only comes twice. Once when he was a baby and once during the Tribulation period when he comes for his people and to destroy the Anti-Christ. Tell me when has he come many times??? Send me the scripture.
iam7who7iam7 1 year ago
@iam7who7iam7 Ive already proven the complications of movement in His 1st coming concerning the days of His resurrection in which He did NOT stay on the earth the whole time. It will be the same. Read your Bible and you will find the "Tribulation Saints" segregated and judged SEPARATELY for a REASON. As scripture says, the dead in Christ will rise FIRST and we who are alive will be caught up to MEET THEM in the clouds(away) but such is hidden just as Jesus spoke in parables to confuse some.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@iam7who7iam7 So with that said you see the dead in Messiah(from ages past) gathered WITH a group of living people to be TAKEN AWAY unlike the Trib Saints gathered only amongst themselves. Again refer to my comment as you are obviously aware of the scripture in which Mary IS NOT allowed to touch Him at His FIRST resurrected appearing(dont be confused by old english translations when modern translations exist). Days later when He appears to EVERYONE, He ALLOWS even the doubter to touch Him.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@iam7who7iam7 Please send me Old Testament scriptures saying that Christ would come twice? If you read the bible as a novel the old testament dose not seam to suggest 2 comings but only one. God rewards those who DILLIGENTLY seek Him with knowledge, wisdom and understanding of scripture. Also, please tell me who the people are in Malichi 3:16 that are not only spared from wrath as a father spares his own son but they shall RETURN to judge between wicked and rightous.
DaddyOjavenjack 1 year ago
@DaddyOjavenjack There is no old testement scripture. But understand Revelations 7:1-14 This proves there is no Pre-tribulation Rapture. Because one of verse 14 HELLOOOOOOOOOO. These 144,000 with the seal on there head have come OUT of the tribulation. To come OUT means you have to go through the tribulation RIGHT???????????
iam7who7iam7 1 year ago
@iam7who7iam7 How does seeing 144,000 jewish men come OUT of the tribulation debunk the coming of Jesus before the pretribulation to take ALL of the dead in Christ up in the sky along with we who remain? It doesnt. Religious mindsets have defined pretrib midtrib and postrib to the point in which people speak ignorantly. However, Jesus comes at the end for a FACT which is NOT a time of peace and safety(but bloodshed and death among all mankind) thus we KNOW He comes BEFORE then as well.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@DaddyOjavenjack He came once to die for our sins and he will be back after the trib to get his people the 144,000 understand who the 144,000 is NOAH-SHEM- ABRHAM- IASSAC-JACOB... NOW COMES THE 12 TRIBES THEY ARE ALL BLACK HEBREWS SCATTERED ACROSS THE EARTH. How are they black because when Joseph was sold to the Egyptians who were black. He later had his family come to Egypt and they could not recognize him. If he was white among all of the black Egyptians the would have recognized him easily.
iam7who7iam7 1 year ago
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iam7who7iam7 1 year ago
@iam7who7iam7 You speak as a fool. The color of the MAJORITY of mankind is light brown and dark brown but the majority of the world are NOT Israelites nor BLACK Hebrew Israelites. Indians from India arent considered black but they are blacker than me(Im black). Israelites are middle eastern people and share the features of middle eastern people and STILL have middle eastern enemies whom HAVENT forgotten what they look like(and egyptians btw are mostly middle eastern looking people). Wake up
jamlimited3 1 year ago
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No one knows exactly when the rapture will be. The bible isn't totally clear on that. We should prepare for the worst and hope for the best. If you do not choose to prepare, you only have yourself to blame. It is a mystery, get it? We shouldn't sit around and not prepare for hard times, especially when bible scholars argue.
MorningSun10000 1 year ago
There is no secret rapture. There is only the second coming, which is judgement day. The belief in the secret rapture cannot be justified with scripture. The passages about one being taken in the field and such in Matthew is about the siege of Jersusalem, not abou the rapture. Too many false teachings being taught.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine People who say "there is no secret rapture" are those who say Matthew 24 is talking about the end of the Tribulation and there is NO WAY that is possible. At the end of the Tribulation people will not be eating and drinking and getting married unaware of the return of Messiah...on the contrary the world suffers devastation like NEVER before never to be repeated and those who choose God are opposed by those who curse God and His dwelling place.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@jamlimited3
Not the end of the tribulation. When Jesus is talking about workers in the field and one being taken, he is talking about the seige of Jerusalem, not a rapture. That person that disappears is either killed or taken by force as a slave. There is only one second coming. It's not Jesus' 3rd or 4th coming, which is what Secret Rapture adherents believe in.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine Actually thats your own misinterpretation. Jesus said if the Master COMES BACK to find the SERVANT doing wrong, HE will punish that servant. Also He says if the master of the house knew when the thief was coming, he would not let Him and in this Messiah compares Himself to be the THIEF IN THE NIGHT. Lastly He "TAKES"(GREEK:paralambano=close/intimately) one and "LEAVES"/forsakes the other. The Jews of old thought such as you too, and they were mistaken..complexity exists.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@jamlimited3
There's nothing in those passages about punishing servents doing wrong. I'm sorry, but the Secret Rapture, the belief that dominates modern Christianity, is not supported by the bible. It began as a hypothesis and overtime it was taught as if it was doctrine. It's not. There is only one second coming in Christinity, not 3 or 4 as demanded by believers in the Secret Rapture.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine Since you show ignorance to the scriptures COMMONLY known, I'll cut short...but please read your Bible more. MATTHEW 24:48 But and if that evil SERVANT shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming...MATTHEW 24:50The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh NOT for him, and in an hour that he is NOT AWARE OF, 51And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine
The majority of Christians in America are going to hell. They are not saved. According to Billy Graham's evangelical formula, 75% of people who come forward at altar calls are false converts, i.e. not saved. Paul Washer estimates that only 10-15% of people in Evangelical Churches are born again, the rest are fakes. Ask yourself why the belief in the secret rapture has grown to dominate American Christianity. A manmade teaching for fake Christians.
BoyintheMachine 1 year ago
@BoyintheMachine Lastly, of course most Christians are not saved...most Christians only have a religion. God never called men to be CHRISTIANS...Adam didnt lose Christianity and Jesus didnt preach a religion...rather the Kingdom of God was lost by Adam and preached by Jesus and thus only those few who FIND the narrow road even have the chance of walking it. Billy Graham doesnt need to tell me what Jesus already speaks in the scriptures but the Holy Spirit teaches things hidden in plain sight.
jamlimited3 1 year ago
Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Mat 24:41 Two [women shall be] grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:35 Two [women] shall be grinding together; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
Luk 17:36 Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
sprinkle888 1 year ago
Luk 17:36 Two [men] shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. Here are the remaining matches:
Luk 17:34 I tell you, in that night there shall be two [men] in one bed; the one shall be taken, and the other shall be left.
sprinkle888 1 year ago
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google Doe's Account, its mindblowing.
Wintblash 1 year ago
thats left out, not left behind, the daniel prophsies were fullfilled by 70 a.d., the truth will set u free, the end will come like a thief in the night, no one knows when the master of the house will return.
williek551 1 year ago
To FriskyBigot
I don't know where you got the idea that God hates us. You have not read Genesis correctly. God says to be fruitful and multiply.
MusicalKelli 2 years ago
Ok then by your udnerstanding God hates us because he gave us free will, warned us of the consequences of our foolishness before we commited it, warned us of the plagued of disobedience that would bring judgment on our sons do to our own wickedness, and then came down despite all of this to save some by Himself dying in our place when He alone is the great I AM, the one who created existence and the laws and structure that is the KINGDOM of Life(not a religion)....thou fool.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
I dont see a 7 year trib..I see a 3 1/2 yr. trib. And the beast is told to Daniel as being a nation! Chapter 7. The false prophet is that who you refer to as the Islam faith?...2 horns, political and religious..but one has the mouth and power?...I think there are differant gatherings, yet all at the same time,or very close,Rev.11 after the 2 witnesses live,right at the 7th trumpet it happens within an hour.
anddihier 2 years ago
Read Revelation 11 carefully....events LEAD UP TO the Abomination that causes Desolation. Is that Abomination the beginning of the Tribulation? No, yet that abomination begins the last 42 months of the Tribulation in which the Antichrist tramples. 42 months of Gentiles trampling the temple, yet we are told for 3 and 1/2 years worshippers will have the temple even as 2 witnesses will "torment" the inhabitnants of the earth. The 7th trumpet isnt the end but the beginning of the 7 plagues.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
i agree...I think the trib starts mid the peace treaty as Daniel told us, the 3 1/2 yrs we're told many times in Rev. as being that trib. Rev. 11 is the summing up of it all just prior to the 7th trumpet which is Armageddon..whether plagues start then or not??...the wrath of God does.
anddihier 2 years ago
What you said is hard to make sense of....so let me reiterate: for 3 and 1/2 years the temple of God will be and worshipers will have it...ALSO for 3 and 1/2 years aka 42 months the antichrist will be triumphant and the temple will be trampled on by gentiles. These two periods are referred to over and over in scripture HENCE when you say that you dont see a seven year tribulation all you have to do is reconcile the fact that 3 and 1/2 isnt a random number but a LITERAL half as clearly shown.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Also we KNOW when the plagues start as the 7th trumpet includes the announcement of the 7 plagues beginning. You first must reconcile that the tribulation is 7 years. After youve done this, with a sharp eye you can best place the trumpets based on the 3 key events of the trib: the beginning, middle, and end of the Trib and with sharp study youll see the 2 witneses die at the middle hence the trumpets span the 1st half of the trib and the plagues span the 2nd half(the seals span the entirety).
jamlimited3 2 years ago
@jamlimited3 ....I think whn the 2 witnesses are called op hither is when we are all called...notice the 7th trumpet blows just after this event...
anddihier 1 year ago
@anddihier rev 16:12 the river eurphates is already drying up now but it can not be that 5 trumpets have already sounded.
lucy9359 1 year ago
@lucy9359 ...Why can't it?...This generation shall not pass until all these things take place. Seems like 100 yrs. and its all happening---1st trumpet was WW1, 2nd was WW2...only events that couldve killed so many people....and WW3 is coming soon!
Maybe not but it sure lines up....Ukraine nuclear melt down sounds like 4th trumpet, wormwood meaning--Chernobyl...watch?v=101OEaksU0s
anddihier 1 year ago
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lucy9359 1 year ago
@lucy9359 ...Thanks for the invite..God Bless you and yours.
I want to point you to an awesome video here on YT that I watched called "Daniel's Timeline"..it seems very accurate on the dates of prophecy leading to the end..his intense study also proves a post trib rapture also..
The vid's time frame puts us as this year being the 1st of the 7th.(last 7 yrs.)..so we are looking for the peace treaty to be signed soon...it's good..let me know what u think
anddihier 1 year ago
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lucy9359 1 year ago
@lucy9359 ..1 Thes.2;4--But you are not in [given up to the power of] darkness, brethren, for that day to overtake you by surprise like a thief....
So he doesn't come as a thief to the saved but to the lost....for we know his word and the spirit tells us....Rev.2 also tells the church will suffer many days at the end..be put in prisons,etc...
anddihier 1 year ago
@anddihier I don't believe it is nescessary to spend my time pinpointing time lines none the less we agree on one thing better get soul winning because we are running out of time. So lead as many people to the Lord as you can God Bless
lucy9359 1 year ago
@lucy9359 ....I do happen to think the word is the most important thing we have or he wouldnt have given it to us concerning the endtimes...but so true the (pin) pointing is most for sure to try and reach as many as will listen and come to HIM...if they only knew what they were missing by not knowing HIM....
Study to show thyself approved, rightly dividing the word of truth!!!
anddihier 1 year ago
@anddihier Of course His word is our life line God Bless and happy soul winning!
lucy9359 1 year ago
@anddihier you know some ppl have had dreams saying in their dream ppl were being separated into categories, maybe ur right about different gatherings within an hour.
1986TruthSeeker 7 months ago
@1986TruthSeeker I like it he doesnt include a winter harvest---and why is because God says to pray that your flight be not in the winter....and he answers prayer so it wouldn't be right?
anddihier 7 months ago
Are you trying to say that the First Fruits represent the Rapture preceding the Second Coming? If this is so, this is false. The First Fruits was Jesus Christ's resurrection, along with many righteous who were resurrected at that time. Matthew 27:51-54
Lysimachus78 2 years ago
I mention this as I go in depth at the end of this video showing the repeated and UNCHANGING cycle of Firstfruits, Harvest, and Ingathering as it apples ON the three harvests and ALL 3 on WITHIN each individual harvest. By your objection(which has no grounds...your objection that is, not the scripture) I can say your statement is false as the 144,000 in the end times are called the Firstfruits(Rev 14:4). Jumping to conclusions is foolish...asking questions is wise. Ask and Ill explain.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
(cont) To be clear(I typed that rather fast) Im showing you that saying Im false by that scripture you used is as foolish as me saying Jesus ISNT the firstfruits based on the scripture I just presented. Wisdom says there is a way thats eems right yet leads to death...such is religion(as the pharisees had) and the wide road many walk versus the Kingdom(which Adam lost and Jesus preached) which is a narrow road few even find. So be blessed and be slow to conclude...ask and Ill answer you.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
jamlimited3,
So when are you saying the 144,000 are raptured? Pre-Trib, Mid-Trib, or Post-Trib?
Lysimachus78 2 years ago
The 144,000 are Jewish MEN who temporarily refrained from sex to be consecrated to meet/serve the Lord's purposes. They are the FULFILLMENT of what the Levites PICTURED as the Levites were taken AS firstfruits since God commanded the firstborn of EVERY Israelite be given to Him then justified this(Nu 7:16-18). This fits the PICTURE of the first Pentecost(Ex 19:1 and 19:13-19) and the ritual of the MID-feast(Pentecost) hence they are part of the midtrib event(more affirmations exist).
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Thank you, nice job:}
mro819 2 years ago
People arguing about the meaning of religious text is as silly as people arguing about the meaning of a mysterious plot to a deep fictional story(such as seen in a novel, movie, or even a video game). There are intentionally unanswered questions to let your mind wonder and your imagination to attempt filling the gaps with what you believe makes the most sense...though in truth, there are no correct answers, because both religion and fiction are merely tools for their creator/controller's profit.
DonyWillDamnit 2 years ago
You have no idea that Adam neevr lost a religion, Jesus never preached a religion, nor will God bring a religion at this inevitable climax. The pharisees had religion but Jesus still came and preached against them...who then was the God of Messiah's religion? He revealed and preched a kIngdom hence when standing before a governor He mentioned His army and confessed He indeed was the King of the Jews. Kingdoms have laws and prison...beware of your rebellion against God's Kingdom of Existence.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Rev, 22;11 suggests there is a difference between rightous and holy. there are 144,000 virgin jewish men that miss rapture because they dont know Jesus, as the Messiah. They are rightous, not holy
DaddyOjavenjack 2 years ago
You assume that they are virgins but God doesnt display any purpose for virgin men in all of scripture only to RANDOMLY reveal a certain place for them at the end. God is a God who makes sense when sharing information with us like a master communicator of intellect. They DO fit a mold seen in scripture as men are told to CONSECRATE themselves to meet the Lord by refraining from sex with their wives...even told this before meeting the Lord on the first mention of Pentecost Exo 19:15
jamlimited3 2 years ago
What part of the insight of this video dont you understand? The part that destroys your theology? Correct theology comes by being tested and proven...not by being hidden. Such is the proof of faith...action witnessed in favor of the belief versus those who say they believe but cannot and will not act and prove their faith valid. So I ask you what part of meeting Jesus in the clouds do you not understand...I know who inherits the earth but do you know prophetic layering? I think not.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
The concept of the Rapture was concocted by restorationists in the 1800's. The Early Church Fathers did not have this eschatological view at all. The Rapture is entirely unbiblical and not a part of Christian tradition. This video is an example of how certain denominations use proof texting in order to attempt to show a particular doctrinal stance.
Pilatocus28 2 years ago
So Paul was from the 1800s when he told us that a departure shall take place before the man of lawlessness is revealed. Also he said the dead in Christ will meet those who are alive in Christ in the sky transformed into immortal bodies(UNLIKE the tribulation saints who are resurrected BY THEMSELVES at the end of the Tribulation with the survivors UNCHANGED). Jesus must too be from the 1800s when He spoke of coming in peace/safety times vs global holocaust famine and plagues of the Tribulation.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Ya that's when the 7th trump is sounded notice also it says with a (SHOUT) nothing secret about a shout does everyone skip that part? That the trump blown by micheal in saying Lord of Lords King of Kings is returned coming with all power and glory and we gather to him and the dead also. Not a rapture there! Paul is reassuring them that there dead love ones will see and participate in Christ's return and yes rapture believe did not get preached til early 1800s! Ya have to study history too!!
shook7676 2 years ago
You claim to know which angel will blow which trumpet but you dont know the word. You arent even aware which half of the Tribulation the 2 witnesses come because if you were youd know that the second half is the 42 months of the Beast's authority vs the first half which the Jews have the temple through the 2 witnesses. SHORTLY after the woe of their death is the 7th trumpet(not the last trump). Jesus preached rapture in Matt 24...days of peace and safety(unlike the global holocaust to come).
jamlimited3 2 years ago
The rapture is in the bible, it happens before the tribulation. You are mis-guided, read ur bible. Christians will be gone before the anti christ is revealed.
TheMrGobble 2 years ago
Exactly! No different than a Garden. Firstfruits are those that are picked over time. Then the Rapture, since in Rev. it talks about the Churches, and then during the supper some new people appear and the people ask "Who are these?" It is told to them that they r the ones who suffered the Tribulation. Also note that Lot was saved BEFORE S&G were destroyed. Then the last harvest will be those Martyred, just like a winepress- their blood will be spilled. It's common sense.
rshighfill 2 years ago
First fruits arent picked over time...your understanding of the God given Jewish practice isnt accurate. Firstfruits are picked BEFORE any harvesting begins hence FIRST. Then AFTER the main harvest over time begins and last the gleaning of the few remaining from the four corners of the field begins. Hidden within the stories of old and the Feasts are many clear pictures including what takes place in the 3 steps of harvest. 3 crowds exist in revelation...can you rightly divide/apply them?
jamlimited3 2 years ago
TheMrGobble- I feel I was given a word of knowledge that we will be here at least long enough to be able to refuse the MARK
TheGraceofChrist 2 years ago
Hi there, a lot of people have different opinions. how did you come to yours? Also can I ask what sort of christian you are? thanks,.
TheMrGobble 2 years ago
Hi back =) God gave me this particular word based on my previous experiences with God I can discern it was a word of knowledge. I've seen a multitude of signs wonders, many miracles of the Lord. I'm not sure what you mean by what sort of Christian am I as far as I'm concerned there is only 1 kind 1 who knows Christ is our Lord and savior that He died for our sins and rose again that He is the only way the truth and the life. Thanks for getting back with me.
TheGraceofChrist 2 years ago
Ive been doing a study of this myself, and I am going to have to agree with this info concerning the harvests.
Ive always wondered how people can say that the church must go through the tribulation. The word itself comes from "tribulum" which was a tool used for pressing and crushing wheat.
Why must we, who are soft hearted and not part of the world be crushed? Crushing Barley will ruin it. Only the hard heartedness of wheat must be crushed to separate it from the chaff.
ShepperdOneill 2 years ago
Amen. As prophetic layering shows the story of Messiah in Joseph's life as well as many others...so does prophetic layering show detailed previews of the events of the 2 witnesses as we see 2 spies are repeatedly seen all through scripture even dealing with a harlot or wicked city. Likewise we see previews of the Lord's unexpected coming...even in the events of Noah and his 7 days of preparation after being warned. The end of the Tribulation will be a time even God's enemies expect Him.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
What do you mean "why must we?" Why did Jesus have to suffer and die? Why did the apostles have to suffer and die? The early Christians? All the persecutions of the Roman empire? And you ask yourself why? You think you should get a free ride huh? Not gonna happen. There is no pre-tribulation rapture, and that is a biblical fact. You have to understand this. I did a video on it. It's on my homepage. Check it out. You need to be ready, not for the rapture, but for the testing of your faith.
TheNeedForRepentance 2 years ago
You have a jaded understanding of events...you think the Tribulation is a walk in the park and have no clue what is implied in statements like "if He does not come back at that time, no one would be left". When Jesus returns at the END of the harvest He will gather the FEW...I repeat FEW remaining Elect from the 4 winds like gleanings are gathered LAST from the 4 corners. Believers died in ALL ages so that the MAJORITY could LIVE...thats happening now and until the day of harvest.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Hey, you added the word 'remaining' there in ur post, he gathered the elect, not the remaining elect. Don't add words to scripture.
TheMrGobble 2 years ago
Are you not aware of why the Tribulation is the time "unequaled from the beginning of the world until now"? Havent you read what will happen to believers? Have you not read the numbers of the population that will die? Have you not understood the famine or why the wrath of God will come unmercifully at the climax of this last trial? Im not adding words because I dont quote like a parrot...Paul nor Jesus quoted in such a manor but Matt 24:22 is one of many that illustrate so FEW will survive.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Dude esti cam Bou....sorry dar asta este....
doxatu 2 years ago
What does that mean in english? If you cant speak english how could you watch and comment on my video written in english? Glory to God for wisdom huh...^__^
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Maybe he was so inspired he got the Holy Ghost and began to write in other tounges
DaddyOjavenjack 2 years ago
Hehehe good one! I pray everyone who doesnt already, gets filled with the Holy Spirit after watching my videos! Then they too can bust out into tongues and start saying "dude esti cam bou sorry dar asta este!" hehehe and maybe somebody will get the gift of interpretation!
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Dude, I understand every word u write... trust me... no sugar.. ;)
doxatu 2 years ago
when people predicted the "dates" orthe "years"maybe God coming,he won't ,he said when NO ONE is expecting him to come he will come like the ATHEIF, who is going to snatch you up SILENT without no one knowing what had happened ,so people say this year might be the year,no i doubt thatgod created everything so when he says he is going tocome like a theif at night , he will come as atheif, thewhole WORLD will be in shock because it happened SO SILENT, soo you never know when jesus is gonna come :)
sexyboy101 2 years ago
People predict the Lord's coming as they predicted the first coming of Messiah. MANY were wrong but some were right. People live DAILY expecting the return of Jesus, others predict dates which is fair, and others falsely prophesy dates. He will come like a thief in the sense that He will take valuables(children) and leave thus He WARNS of His coming which will be like a thief to THOSE left behind and those who dont watch. We watch in EXPECTATION...He will come when the watchers expect Him.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
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The persecution by Antichrist during the Great Tribulation will be the wrath of Satan Rev 12:12, not the wrath of God. When the sign of the sun, moon and stars is given, the wrath of Satan against the elect will be terminated, the faithful of God will be raptured, then the wrath of God will begin on the wicked who remain, ending with the battle of Armegeddon. This puts the rapture sometime during the 2nd half of the "great" tribulation. There is only 1 Day of the Lord, 1 second coming. 1 "sign".
Gunwacko 2 years ago
The devil, sin, and the curse has been at work since the Garden of Eden(Satan's wrath as you call it). However God was bruised and placed on the cross where He has FOREVER crushed Satan(and his wrath if you call it that). The Tribulation is a time of trial/judgment all under God's jurisdiction(God sends/allows the dillusion of the Antichrist according to 2 Thes). The Lord's day is the Sabbath(millenium) and the Lord's (complex)coming and (3step)harvest are 2 different things though linked.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
if I would agree with the three raptures, though:
Son 2:13 The fig tree putteth forth her green figs, and the vines with the tender grape give a good smell. Arise, my love, my fair one, and come away.
this time looks like late Spring for the rapture of the church.
mytreasure777 2 years ago
I study deeply the rapture and I have found that in the prophetic layering in the New Testament gospels, this theory is affirmed over and over and over. I ll make a video about it. I am 100% in faith that the rapture of the Church will happen in the Passover season...the season Israel was commanded "in scripture" to keep vigil/watch for ALL the nations...they watch for Elijah's midnight cry(day of PREP). Sad for some, encouraging for others, 2012 is looking more like THE year(but who knows).
jamlimited3 2 years ago
don't wait until next Passover, it might happen next week, or at anytime!
mytreasure777 2 years ago
Its fair for one to hold to such a belief...the Lord would have us remain ready at all times and such expectation encourages that. Likewise men waited for Messiah's first coming and it worked in favor of the Lord's plans...however there is a LITERALLY day when He will come just as the LITERAL day when He came born as Messiah. A select few who watched closely knew when to expect Him...this IS indeed the season(any year now) but I am not one lacking profound insight on the specific events of it.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
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TIME HAS COME: GOD is revealing his secret unto his PROPHET and every PROPHETS is a "True Believers" The questions is, Are You A Believer? THE WORD OF GOD: whoso keepeth the commandment shall feel no evil thing and a wise man's heart discerneth both "TIME and JUDGMENT." Because to every purpose there is "Time and Judgment", therefore the misery of man is great upon him. For he knoweth not that which shall be: for who can tell him when it shall be? ECCLESIASTE 8:5-7 Thus, world end on 5/21/2011.
jegjegod 2 years ago
You wrongly divide the word showing yourself unapproved. The world is never going to end and the Lord's date setting has consistently since the beginning aligned with the feasts given to us for the prophetic purposes of seeking and knowing the important dates to come. I dont know if 5-21 is a feast date but I know it isnt the end of the world..."end of the world" is a religious-wordly term not linked to "good" biblical theology. The return of Jesus is the end of sin and it isnt 5-21-11.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Sorry but,the church is based from Christian concept of replacement doctrine!
yisrael712 2 years ago
Thats not true....the word church is the same word Congregation/Assembly used all through the whole Bible. God's plan to redeem adam-kind was for the Jews to be a light to the Gentiles yet all adam-kind deals with sin(hence the many rebellions of the ISrealites). Likewise in FULFILLLMENT of the prophetic word of God the Gentiles have seen the light of Messiah and now Jew and Gentile CAN both be of the Congregation versus the true HEATHENS whom too are both Jew and Gentile.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Def. of church- OE cirice Gk.neut.of kyriakos of the lord.Boils down to the house of Kurios=lord.While Circe was the goddess-doughter of Helios,the sun-deity.Dictionary of mythology.
yisrael712 2 years ago
Sorry but your theology is foolishness replacing common wisdom/sense.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
where is the rapture found in the bible?
markhrabe 2 years ago
Its found starting in the book of Genesis all the way through to the book of Revelation. If you ever wondered why seemingly random things happen, like Enoch being taken, I tell you these things happen to give a REPEATED example of whats to come. In such a way we see Messiah, the trinity, the rapture, the events of the 2 witnesses, and even the Antichrist in MOST every book. History still does this hence Hitler's mark saluting global agenda shadows the Antichrist to come. Watch my vids.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
we worship God by the way we walk, talk, even by the way we dress, is there any other ways to Worship the Lord?
defineu26 2 years ago
We praise Him with our lips and long to see Him as a child longs for its Father...being everlasting beings with an Eternal Father it might be years before we literally see Him but whats a few years in eternity? Like calling our dad on the phone we speak to Him often. Likewise we communicate with Him through Jesus, our passionate fiance. We open ourselves to Him like a wife to a husband. We welcome His Spirit, our best friend, with words knowing He is here now and we do this in song/praise.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Jamlimited3 you rock! I love the video, I have shared almost the same belief but I pictured it as the gentiles being cought up for 3 1/2 years then after that the dead in Christ rise and then the living but now you got me thinking. Thank you for this powerful video. Now you got me wanting to study the Word even more :-)
DaddyOjavenjack 2 years ago 2
Im glad youre inspired! My recommendation is that you always ask the Lord what you seek and trust that He, being true living God, will lead you in the information. It took me a while to gain solid theology...I had to admit when I was wrong but that was easier to do when I witnessed an insightful teaching that was right before me. Today my rapture theology has VERY few weak points and is justified even with 100s of prophetic shadows and types. In this age all is being unlocked. Be blessed!
jamlimited3 2 years ago
I love your video
God bless you...
JustinOsbore 2 years ago 2
This All True About The Rapture Christ Will Coem Back For The Christans And Those Left Behind Will Go Through Plauges And Earthqukes And Worst Of All
The Antichrist him self!
The4Kids43 2 years ago
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There is only one Tribulation, not two halves.
It is only a 3 1/2 year Tribulation.
Jesus will only come one more time.
There will be no Rapture before the Tribulation.
We the Christians will be raptured after the Tribulation.
There is going to be a Seven Year Covenant not a So - Called Seven Year Tribulation.
Read the Scriptures, not Tim Le Hay and Jerry Jenkins "Left Behind" Series.
Read the word for yourselves for a change.
curlywolfone 2 years ago
Dont spam my videos with your nonsense curly wolf...I am unlike the religious people you persecute daily in the name of religion. I am of the Kingdom and it is of power...I dont have a form of godliness with no power...your lack of truth immediatly testifies that you are of no power and a man of doctrine like the pharisees that THOUGHT they had salvation and the truth. We will know them by their fruits indeed(so says my Messiah who lives). God is here now(Holy Spirit)...listen to Him.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Its all garbage! HAHAHA!!!!
Now you all know you will be waiting till the day you die for this "Rapture" don't you? What the excuse then?
benjaminbaldwin1984 2 years ago
You mock like the thief on the cross...like him you speak in the wrong spirit and miss the profound truth of whats before you. Israel became a nation in 1948 right before the the 6,000 year mark since the time of Adam. Jesus reigns for 1,000 years when He returns because its a sabbath of rest. A day with the Lord is like 1,000...a prophetic parable. So indeed many have waited, not for the thing but ther person...we wait for JESUS and the dead in Christ who waited will too rise when He comes
jamlimited3 2 years ago
Have u ever thought, what if it does happen? You sound like one that haven't experience being filled with the Holy Ghost like they were on the day of Pentecost. It's funny how those that really experience it can see the different. Those that haven't can't. But i pray for u that God will touch your heart like he did Pauls and start u on the right road so u don't be lost. God bless you! I'm not mad at u, i feel sad that u can't see. Read a book on the different. It can't hurt u.
rossdaboss1959 2 years ago 2
Hal Linday's Book: " The Late Great Planet Earth". References where in the Bible he got the information in regards to the Book Of Revelations. Sand indeed is dropping fast to the other side of the hour glass and the newspapers are confirming the Bible 100% accurate. As Christ himself stated: Keep watch. Meaning, not only in the signs of the sky, but of the world system, and world events
Jesus Christ is the lord and Savior of my life, and All Glory is God's. Jesus is the only way to God.
jake61nyc 2 years ago
AWESOME VIDEO. THIS IS WHAT I CALL RIGHTLY DIVIDING THE WORD OF TRUTH. People have distroted the loving Character of God. HE IS NOT A WIFE BEATER!!!! YOU DONN'T HAVE TO DIE TO PROVE YOUR LOVE FOR HIM. The only way you can prove your love for God is to OBEY HIS COMMANDMENTS. People got things backwards!! See you at the rapture, brother!!! ^_^.
Femsols 2 years ago
Right On Femsols! See ya in the air :)
daughterofMostHigh 2 years ago 2
ill bring cookies for you two =)
bearycool 2 years ago 2
Very Interesting,
now i do not know what to say about the rapture.
I"m speechless.
Thanks for making this video and letting me know of it.
i got alot to studing to do.
God Bless
Daniel71240 2 years ago
rapture??
GameQ0 2 years ago
I believe that this video is a perfect depiction of the end times. These harvest are a perfect example of the things to come.
daughterofMostHigh 3 years ago
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Imaginefree69 3 years ago
You speak of perfection as if it were something youve known. Evil doubts good and thinks it can corrupt it proving it imperfect(like Satan does). Perfection isnt brainwashing your kids nor is it the act of never having problems. A right way creates a wrong way. God is perfection and HE created EXISTENCE(a Kingdom NOT a religion) that will never cease to grow. Sin will last a LITTLE longer and then never again. God has given us time that some might be saved...He warned us what would happen.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
"You speak of perfection as if it were something youve known"
Where did I do this?
"Sin will last a LITTLE longer "
Yes, I think Jesus and his boys said that, too.
About 2,000 years ago, wasn't it?
And the Jews waited for the Messiah
for thousands of years before that.
I'm sure we're nearly there, Jam.
Just keep clicking your ruby slippers together...
Imaginefree69 3 years ago
Your perception of the english translation is off. God however justifies His speech even by speaking....theologically its justified as we know a day with the Lord is like a 1,000 years which is a code emphasizing a 6,000 year plan(hence Jesus reigns on the Sabbath millenium for 1,000 years). He is also justified as He has said preach the gospel to ALL nations and gives signs of the end times explaining how BAD sin WILL become...His little longer isnt the same as your perception of it.
jamlimited3 2 years ago
isn't the harvest of fruits when we.. -i mean, when the tares get pulverized by large hailstones??
slappy480ic3f4 3 years ago
To be clear: the "harvest" is something that happens in the end times...at the end of all age and what happens in the harvest can be summed up as the righteous being taken away or harvested and the wicked being taken away or harvested. However God has given multiple insights on this harvest even using a literal harvesting structure He created. With such insight we get a more detailed understanding of God's harvesting mind...that cycle is simple: firstfruits, harvest, and gathering of gleaning
jamlimited3 3 years ago
the rapture of the church is a lie!wake up people!read the bible for yourselves! i dont care who teaches this it is still a lie!who was taken out of the world the wheat or the tares??why is there so much confusion and debate at when the rapture will occur?most people just believe what they are told and do no real research,but instead they read the bible with there mind made up without really studying for themselves!
8813DIMEVADER 3 years ago
Actually many read and still find that they do not understand what they read. Jews read the Tora and the Prophets for MANY years and did not foresee the TWO DIFFERENT COMINGS of Messiah and today AGAIN people like you cannot see the difference between the TWO DIFFERENT COMINGS concerning the endtimes. Jesus comes for the Church(not the lukewarm foolish virgins whom will be left with the hypocrites) in a time of "peace and safety" yet returns for the FEW REMAINING Elect at earth's worst hour.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
Amen. hope im ready ^^
mrm64 3 years ago
Yeah thousands of people have failed about their predictions about the armagedon, but I think it might be you, after all you are so smart you believe in talking snakes.
Cuythulu 3 years ago
Thousands in Noah's day doubted the word of the Lord(not the word of Noah) and lost their lives. Thousands of Americans died on September 11th doubting the intentions of Islamic terrorists who were mere men. My predictions are as weighty as my predictions for the weather...if it doesnt snow and I said it might that doesnt merit me for your foolishness. Wisdom understands the science of hypothesis and prediction...my words are of man but God will return as His words will never pass away dude.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
wow cool. wats the name of the song
killerazc 3 years ago
Revelation Project is the band and album...check them out.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
as believers we should lead others to Christ
randomperson521 3 years ago 2
Santa Clause and the Tooth Fairy called!
They want to know why you don't believe in them also??
bigboy45454545 3 years ago
Tell them I said because they're man-made fairytale nobodys,not the true living God who sent His Son to die on the cross for our salvation and redemption and as our ONLY way to get to Heaven,that's why!
SteelGunner3900 3 years ago
The Law of gravity text messaged you...it wants to know why you trust in it being enforced and respecting no man yet you have contempt for God's other laws such as the law of sin and death by which you die(guranteed to happen) and you go to Hell(spiritual death row in prison for breaking God's law of life as all men do thus we all need Jesus who died in our place with a sinless life)? Believing in God is just the first step in salvation...demons believe and are going to Hell...Judas believed.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
Alright ! Another complete different aspect of the heresy of the secret or pretrib rupture. WOW. What next?? 13 different harvests and ruptures till he gets it right??
Unbelievable.
robwiley01 3 years ago
Mockers are silly and help fulfill scripture...there indeed must be foolish virgins and servants who say the coming of the Lord is far off and so live drunkenly with a mocking spirit. If you are so learned in prophetic cycles why have you not made a video explaining the FACT that the harvest cycle in Israel given from God has 3 steps that align with the 3 multitudes we see in Revelation? Why else segregate multitudes?(Gentiles, 144000, and Trib martyrs)...dont answer, you're blocked. ^__^
jamlimited3 3 years ago
Correction: The 3 segregated multitudes in heaven are 1. The GREAT multitude of many nations(the Church), 2. The 144,000 Jewish MALE priests, and 3. The Trib Martyrs. These 3 groups are never mingled together for a reason...and if you give my theory a try you may find wisdom in actually UNDERSTANDING why including why the 2 witnesses start their ministry in the 1st half and why Jesus is crowned only at the end as he leads men how are given authority havign been judged and rewarded already.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
if i say jesus is the way and the light and that the whole world should be christian you people would line up to pat me on the back but when i tell the truth that ALL religion is the biggest fraud the world has ever seen im evil and have no right to speak its ok for chistians to take over the world but if one person makes a stand there is a problem you are hippocrates and evil and in your own words evil shall be removed from the world
psyco4cp 3 years ago
Actually this world wasnt made by man. Intelligent creation is proof of a creator. It just so happens the Creator of life is a KING and so the understanding of kingdoms and kingship(NOT religion) is a great way to understand He who claims to be its origin. HE died to restore the KINGDOM that was lost(by Adam) and He vows to end all rebellion against His LAW soon. His court is just and so He has tried very hard to justify sinful man but the deceived reject this and call it false RELIGION.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
jamlimited you keep speaking the truth. Some will recieve and some will not to their sorrow. Keep telling it. Many are listening!!! I am one!
soulseeker95 3 years ago
Thank you!
jamlimited3 3 years ago
there are a lot of things in this world that i ponder over all of them pretty heavy. but religion is the only thing that i think will drive my insane. I want people who know the bible to discuss so things. I was raised in a Non Dinominational Christian Church and went away on my own path and now i am trying to get a view onit for my self instead of it being forced on me. so any one who can help plz do
antiamerican1776 3 years ago
Its as simple as this...Jesus never preached a religion and had the most problems with religious people. The religious people THOUGHT they were pleasing God and had access to the KINGDOM of God through the Word of God. Jesus corrected them in EVERY way and preached a KINGDOM...one that religious or non religious BOTH must enter to recieve life. Jesus came to save all sinners but had the most problems from those who THOUGHT they were justified...and indeed God opposes the proud. Watch my vids
jamlimited3 3 years ago
I apologize for saying you speak like a gnostic...i feel Ive misinterpreted your statement in my quick thinking. However you do seem to be riding the fence and this not suprising when you have such insight which seems to foreshadow brilliants that is within you(unseen by me). Do tell me this though...do you lean to your own understanding or do you walk with the Spirit sensitive to His words?(who knows the mind of a man but the spirit...and we have the mind of MEssiah through the Spirit of God)
jamlimited3 3 years ago
Satan, spoke so to God. Because God created him to be as such. He was once a chief part of the Elohim, a prehistoric pantheon of Angelic beings that were of the family of God, God being the absolute head. He still believes that he is doing good things for creation. Just as Judas and Pharaoh believed they were too. God willed it to be so. You cant be all powerful and in control of everything if you let people just do as they please. It is a serious contradiction in terms and reality.
Davidweiser 3 years ago
You speak like a gnostic who doesnt know God. Are you aware that God does not change? The same God in scipture still remains on earth in the form of His SPirit. Study the Spirit of God and see how He acts...godly wisdom(the Apostles) is not like the wisdom of pharisees. Your type is defined by your words. God does not CONTROL everything(witchcraft)...He rules over and governs everything hence this is a universe of laws. God gave us Earth to rule and soon will fix our foolish errors on it.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
At last someone else is saying what I figured out, by the grace and will of God, about the three Rapture views. But I didn't know about the harvest feast and Passover stuff until a few days ago. Makes sense though becuase an Angel came to me in April 1982 and told me to be ready for the Pre-trib rapture. But there are a few things that I don't beleive which I think is relgious error. Free-will for example is impossible in the presence of an all knowing and all powerful God.
Davidweiser 3 years ago
Hehe, free will is impossible? So when Satan stood in the presence of God in the book of Job and spoke so irreverently saying "He will curse you to your face!" that was not a will apart from God's? What about the antichrist who will speak boldly before Jesus as he is being judged to be thrown into the lake of fire? God is All Powerful but let us never exclude His other parts and so misinterpret who He is(or scripture)...GOD IS LOVE and so being if we had no free will god would be a rapist.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
It is imposible to have Free will, it does not exist. Albert Einstein proved it with the Law of First affect, and God said so in Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did PREDESTINATE to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. My friend, you know many things, but your knowlegde is not complete. You still beleive in Eternal Hell, you still beleive in Free will, you still beleive in the church. You still have many errors.
Davidweiser 3 years ago
Dude you are misunderstanding that scripture. Predestination doesnt deny the freewill of men...IT WAS NOT GODS WILL FOR MAN TO SIN AGAINST HIM! Thus God will do away with sin forever and very soon at that. Predestination however says that God is allknowing, for who knows your destination but the one who knows all things? If God knows all things and acts on that knowledge then predestination exists but whats that to you? All you can do is act on your FREE WILL. God is no rapist.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
During the end time, satan is going to take over. But we the christians will be raptured out. and it says the anti christ will do signs and wonders, fake ones. And people preach to watch out for them. Well if its goin on now and it gonna happen when "666" takes over,and we suppose to be raptured out. Well im sorry folks, we just missed the rapture. Yall say be ready to be raptured out, yet warn me bout these things when im gone? Which one is it? Sounds like fear 2 me.
filledwithHim 3 years ago
Please reread what you typed and say again what you are saying because I have no clue whatsoever what you are saying, what view you hold, and who you are asking let alone what. hehe Im being serious.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
I was in a hurry. The rapture wasnt even preached until the 1800s. Jesus came as a mustard seed. Instead of evil increasing until we have to be saved, i believe things will get better until Jesus returns. He will have a glorious church when He returns, i dont see too many of thoes kinds of churches around
filledwithHim 3 years ago
Actual the rapture was preached as Paul instructed men to preach it and so encourage the poeple witht he message of the Lord's coming. Paul was clear in revealing and reiterating the order of events which included a catching away(rapture) and THEN a revealing of the Antichrist to decieve those who hate the truth. Its when religious minded godless men got their hands on scripture that its sound doctrine was not preached and mistranslations came of course. The Kingdom of God comes by force.
jamlimited3 3 years ago
Yea, the Lords coming, not us leaving.
filledwithHim 3 years ago
You are mistaken, read 1 Thes and Rev you will see plainly the rapture spoken about.
FMPastorTodd 3 years ago