haha classic match up. But was the man with the gi the Judoka or was he the karateka. I love both styles. I train Judo and BJJ used to wrestle too, also have trained TKD for 7 years, muay thai for 3 and boxing for five. I can't wait to start fighting =).
@momo200090 well in ITF taekwondo you actually learn self defence (wich is not hapkido) like the old taekwondo created by the korean military. so you don't always need to mix taekwonod with a other art to be bad ass even tho it's good that have ground work basics.
@R3dTigerM40A3 yeah i know teakwondo is great but i mean if u living in belgium and that's only sport tkw the you need another art to mix it but if u are living in korea why not.
@UntamedMagnet my base style is taekwondo and even though i only got half way to black, when i started doing mma and muay thai and stuff about 6 months ago my kicks were beast because of the understanding of the dynamics of a kick and all the power from taekwondo constantly training the legs, unfortunatley i was wtf, my favorite is kukkiwon though :)
@babyblack94 But it also depends of the fighter, and Tkd its always tkd. i think that to be the perfect fighter you need to pratice more than just one martial art
I've been doing karate for about 9 months now. I'm a red belt. I've been watching a few videos of other martial arts, particularly jujitsu, judo, muay thai. I'm a bit worried that if I ever encounter some that does grapples and wrestling instead of purely strikes I'm going to lose every single fight. I know there are grapples and throws in karate but we never do them at our club :(
What I said about Le is that he never claimed he's of one style, while both other always pretend to be karatekas. Since you're not everybody in UFC, don't explain how nobody there repsects Kyokushin, cause it's an infantile childish way of argumentation. I know you're retard, but still...
Cung Le - Taekwondo? HAHAHHA!! Man, you're completely illiterate about fightinig. Kyokushin is considered the most brutal and it's one of the most effective styles. Taekwondo is crap.
@AryanBulgar no, muay thai is consedered the most brutal style..you retarded dumbass..taekwondo's kicks are the most brutal..and cung le train taekwondo..and george st-pierre made a korean taekwondo master go down to canada just to learn a taekwondo back kick. taekwondo kicks are effective. ITF taekwonod punch is the second most effective punch- proved on fight science.
Cung Le is also kickboxer nad trains Sanshou. Dan Handerson? Hahah! Stupid. Anyway, two fighters among thousands of others are not prove, but disprove. And yet, Schilt, Saint-Pierre, Andy Hug, Filho, Rutten... That's engugh. No one fights at long range for one simple reason: in MMA match if you throw a kick without success, a grapler will take you down immediately. They fight at standart distance at wich Taekwondo is inadequate.I remember seing antoerh video of Lechi Kurbanov annihilating judoka
@AryanBulgar saint-pierre is probally the only one good in there..and why did you say cung le is also a kickboxer and a sanshou fighter while gsp is also a muay thai fighter and a boxer? eh? nobody in ufc fight like kyokushin..they all fight kickboxing/muay thay style. at close range they do muay thai clinch like i said..not kyokushin..and cung le is mostly taekwondo..his kicks are taekwondo..and are you retarded? taekwondo is good at standard distance..especially traditionel style of tkd,stupid
@AryanBulgar i mean dan hardy and not dan handerson..there is also stephane bonnar, shogun rua, david loiseau, bas rutten, mirko crocop, joe rogan and anderson silva have a taekwondo background..thats the only one that i know..and a good mma who train taekwondo but is not in ufc or k1 its andre lima..
Deliver those 800+ punds plus in your fag ass, cretin moron. There's no successful Taekwondo fighter in K1 or MMA, while it's plenty of karatekas. And BJJ is even more spred than Judo too. A pseudo judoka like you makes judokas be like lying bitches - better be a dancer, eh, pussy? And go make sparring with a karateka to see how he'll wipe your ass, you can't use knees, elbows, punches. Kyokushin owns and rules, you jealous inferior.
@AryanBulgar your telling me that cung le in k-1 is not a successful fighter?? and dan handerson also?? lmfao you are retarded..and no one in ufc fight like a kyokushin fighter..they all fight at long range most of the time they all use muay thai clinch for close range..and i did faught my friend he was going to knee me but i back kicked him..either way..i beat him also on ground figthing.. a knee its not hard to do...elbow either..throw tho u need to know them before trying them fucking failure
@R3dTigerM40A3 Cung Le never made K1 GP final or even K1 top 16. Actually I don't think any TKD ever made the final. They were always eliminated in prelim fights. Kyokushin fighters like Sam Greco, Andy Hug, Glaube Feitosa, Fransisco Filho regularly made the K1 GP final. The record shows that the K1 has only ever been won by Muay Thai or Kyokushin fighters. In K1 TKD and Cung Le don't rate
@aldridge1 cung le is still one of the best fighter in k-1..he was the champion in 2005,,that meant he beat every muay thai and kyokushin fighter in k-1.
@R3dTigerM40A3 Cung Le has never fought in the K1 final. the 2005 champ was Semi Schilt from seido karate (a kyokushin offshoot) by defeating Glaube Feitosa (kyokushin). the '05 las vegas K1 tournament was won by Feitosa. Cung Le has never even fought any K1 top 8 fighter and has never won any K1 tournament. Cung Le has only ever beaten 3rd rate nobodies in K1. look it up
@AryanBulgar yes. i think your the idiot man here because you were trashing taekwondo on a judo/karate video, bitch. cung le was actually a mma champion in 2003-2005. you think you can prove something? your saying taekwondo suck while its all about the fighter and not the martial art...how stupid you are...all i'm saying is judo have more advantage than karate or any striking art.
@R3dTigerM40A3 Cung Le has never fought in the K1 final. the 2005 champ was Semi Schilt from seido karate (a kyokushin offshoot) by defeating Glaube Feitosa (kyokushin). the '05 las vegas K1 tournament was won by Feitosa. Cung Le has never even fought any K1 top 8 fighter and has never won any K1 tournament. Cung Le has only ever beaten 3rd rate nobodies in K1. look it up
Judo doesn't have more advantage on the ground than BJJ, but still that doesn't make it bad, it's better for submissioning. And I ment you write how better is Judo than Kyokushin on a video where a karateka wins over judoka, you stupid crap. BJJ is a bit different from the original, cause the brazilian monkeys set it on the ground work mainly and left submisssioning and throws away.
And since there're plenty of MMA fighters with BJJ and Kyokushin, but no one with Taekwondo - guess what, dumb!
And yet,in Kyokushin,Kickboxing,Thaiboxing we take those kicks with no protection.So you proved again you chose this pussy style very sutiable for you.Taekwondo is nothing more than acrobatic. So, you dellusional moron,Judo is not as good for the ground ad BJJ, while the second is not good for throwings and submission as Judo.You can't understand basic thnigs in martial arts, you're retard and inferior cretin fighter.
And since you write judokas are better than karatekas - watch the video again
@AryanBulgar we cant say wich art is better from a single video you retard, and yes, judo as more advantage than bjj on the ground..bjj is acctually japanss jiu-jitsu but different names and minimum modifications....you are retarded if you say a art is better beacause of one single video..in almost evry videos on youtube, judokas beat bjj fighters..i think karate and taekwondo are both dancers acctually..both balets dancers..judo is the real art.
@AryanBulgar no kicks in kyokushin and kickboxing is even close of 800+ pounds of forces by the way..so they cant take those kicks..else they would always get knockout in each blow to the face..wich is not the case in kickboxing and kyokushin..fucking retard
Haha, not a protection? Sure, it's obvious you're taekwondo pussy. So it's obvious you're not familiar, but in Thaiboxing and other styles, there're no protection for the legs, the gloves are for a reason, once Kyokushin was bare knuckles punches to the face, but that leads often even to death.
You don't look like a dancer, you're like a fag, rolling on the floor and pretending how good you're. Judoka doesn't know what to do in stance, you smartass. Dumb, retard, jerk cretin!
@AryanBulgar lol..kicks that deliver 800 pounds of forces can surely kill someone..or do some permanently damages..its proved that taekwondo has the deadliest kicks...fastest and strongest. you idiot. something rolling on the floor is effective when you are on the ground. you dumb karateka.dipshit. either way..can you stop talking about taekwondo? thats not my style..im a judoka..you cant admit that judokas can beat any karateka dancers..so u keep trolling the taekwondo..i am judokas..not tkd
Oh, moron, you can grab my dick and suck it. Taekwondo is sure not tought, but pussy style and it's suited for you. Stupid, don't compare grapling and striking, there's no way to conclude which one is better.
Hard to say if Sambo or freestyle Wrestling are worst than Judo. BJJ is better for locks. But to take you down, as a judoka can, it's not. So instead of fuck off - fuck you, moron.
In ITF there're protectors on your feet, HAHAHH! You're dumbass, don't know your style even.
@AryanBulgar i dont really count that as protection..just like muay thai fighters that have fighting gloves..you little fuck. and i'm not familiar with pro taekwondo but i think they dont wear any feet protections..but my style is judo and not taekwondo..its judo..check out kimura and yoshida...they both defeated helio gracie and royce gracie..and thats why i mostly quited tkd and did not go in kyokushin...i dont want to look like a dancer..
@AryanBulgar and to conclude wich one is better its easy..the dancer that doesnt know what to do once on the ground is the looser. judokas is the winner.
Just cut it out, moron. Your style is Taekwondo and you said it. Mine one is Kyokushin and I do punches to the face. And so there is some ground work in Kyokushin, just it's not grapling oriented and no one claims we're graplers. But we try some for more skills, cause Kyokushin is a style constantly developping.
Taekwondo is semicontact and you're fully equipped with protectors, you gay assholes. You use your arms only to jack. Go in Kyokushin dojo and ask for a sparring, idiot!
@AryanBulgar no, i quited taekwondo..my style is judo now..you fuckass motherfucker..in ITF and PRO taekwondo there is no gear by the way..just like karate..but to win you have to knock out your opponent..either way..both style are like balets...i do judo now..i'd just grab your ass..put it down and break your arm..judo ftw..judo's groundwork is supperior to BJJ..and for the throws..we have the best in martial arts..and judo is easy to improv movements in street. so if you can fuck off please.
Shinken shobu is Kyokushin way of sparring, stupid. Go educate yourself more about. And Kyokushin has punches to the face, while your fag crap style has no arms, elbows and it's semi contact, you taeclowndo idiot.
Since Oyama is the founder of Kyokushin and was a high rank judoka, guess isn't there groundwork in Kyokushin. You stupid vile internet troll fighter.
@AryanBulgar my style is judo, retard and kyokushin has no punches to the face in competitions...i dont know if hewas a that good judokas since kimura had to learn him how to do groundwork..but anyways there isno fucking groundwork in kyokushin and no punches to theface...and itf taekwondo have punches to th face..so we can use our arms..you educate yourself
I know it's japanese, you stupid crap, I said "korean martial arts and Aikido". Since you can laugh with your stupid way of seing martial arts, I cry when I read what you write.
As I said, you illiterate dumfuck, we've punches to the face, knees, elbows and it's all practiced in Shinken shobu rules. The classical way makes your body harder, cause of bare knuckles, while your crap style is semi contact, hahah! It might be proven only taeclowndo to be the most uneffective, nothing else.Gay moron
@AryanBulgar this video is about kyokusin, you dumbass..not shiken shobu craps..lol fucking moron who thinks aikido is korean fucking retard..there is no punch in th face in kyokushin..its just gay close combat shit..
@AryanBulgar and dude my style is judo now so i dont care..fucing retarded..kimura learned some ground work to oyama..doesnt mean he introduced grounwork in karate
Oh, I got it, you're TaeCLOWNdo jerk. I've never seen korean martial art that is effective. Can say the same for Aikido. So, moron, first of all, you can't use your hands, which is the essence of the fight, cause your style is kicking oriented, second: you don't have knees or even low kick. And you dare to give note of Kyokushin?
So, stupid, in Kyokushin there's some ground training, no matter what you shit here, crapfag.
@AryanBulgar aikido is japanesse you fucktared ignorant piece of shit, you really are a laughable fuck headed moron eh? you style does'nt even allow punches in face so i'd shut th fuck up, itsprovedthat taekwondo has te most effective kicks an itf taekwondo hve exelant punching..if you tak traditionel taekwondo there is even som throws...so for the 3m kicking i could reach your ugly face and knock you down..there is even some elbow strikes..so yeah. learn your shit faggot
Sure, everyone, who's into martial arts know ground fighting or strikig are both necessary. Sure Judo is better for the ground than Kyokushin, the way Kyokushin is better for striking than Judo - what do you mean in general? "Close range punch and kicking" - you what, smartass, want to throw a kick from 3 m distance? I bet you've no idea for Shinken shobu rules of Kyokushin, true the classical sparring allows shorter distance, but it's only for competition, you learn other in the dojo.
@AryanBulgar fucking retarded..there is no ground work in kyokushin..sensei todays dont learn their student how to fight on the ground. thats why i chooses judo like a said..and i said close range beacause i am a black belt in taekwondo and i can easily reach someone from 3 m with a idan bijigi..i don't train kykushin beacause it useless for me...back in thedays there was a bit of kyokushin groundwork wich was takan from judo..but not anymore
@R3DtlgerM40A3 Judo seems superior to Kyokushin only to you. Since the first is grapling, the second is striking, the only way to compare is in MMA. Most of what I've seen, Kyokushin rules over Judo in that kind of fight. Not that I find Judo bad, it's very good.
You've been in Kyokushin dojo a few times it seems. True, Kyokushin isn't grapling oriented, but it's better to do a bit of it, than nothing. So A Kyokushin fighter got some idea what to do on the ground.
@AryanBulgar not only to me. to anyone who believe that ground fighting is useful. when you are in a fight, your main goal is to throw you opponent on the ground..but if you get throw..uses groundfighting is good. joint locks, arm locks, chokes. etcc.. in kyokushin fights i've seen, its only close range punch and kicking..so no need to call m smart ass..they are both good.i like both..i just prefer judo
@AryanBulgar yes. kimura, a champion of judo learn some ground work to oyama. the founder of kyokushin.then introduced some in karate. but let me tell you i've never seen any karatekas doing ground work...they must be bad at it since today, the senseis dont teach ground work very well. ive been in a kyokushin dojo and all they were doing was kickin pads and sparring. to me the judo seems alot supperior.
If that kyokushin fighter have some clothes on it he would be DEAD! Tust Judoka cant grab someone without cloches. It was almost impossible task for the judoka to own that kyokushin fighter.
@NixeonDead mabye its not so easy to grab the arms, can U grab the arms of some boxer or other striker, cuz they are moving VERY fast. and judoka trows are mostly by grapping the rever and sleev. they dont grab whole hand even if they can.
@localdisk100 the other guy was doing a very good job of stiff arming him every time he got close but they did go to the clinch a few times. In the clinch its very easy to pull off throws if you know what you're doing whether or not your opponent is wearing a gi. The judoka chose to do a double leg take down instead and I'm not sure why. A throw would have at least stunned him when the went to the ground.
The guy with no gi was simply better and the guy in the gi made poor choices.
@NixeonDead I saw 3 clinches, and in the 3 of them the judoka was in fucking bad position (even for him on the ground) . And the 3th time judoka couldnt do doble leg take down cuz he couldnt grab kyokushin fighter for the shorts. 5:26 as you see it's because of the material of shorts.
Im agree that kyokushin fighter was good, and judoka could do better, but it was too easy win for the kyokushin fighter.
because he wasn't just using Kyokushin and he was the better fighter, they don't teach you to fight on the ground like that in Kyokushin class, No desrecpect to Kyokushin, I'm also a Karateka, But this is in no way Kyukosuhin vs Judo. That would entail one guy using nothing but Judo and the other using nothing but Kyokushin.
@localdisk100 so you could never fight on a beach, if you'd get attacked on there, where you and your opponent are probably just wearing a swimsuit, you couldn't fight. Is it right?
One guy looks like he's going surfing, the other at least looks like a real martial artist. & both fight like street thugs/sloppy kickboxers.... What has happened to TMA ?
no I said that midori kenji is doing real old kyokushin....matsui too, Valeri too , but comparing to this guy on the video he is doing just kickboxing!!! not kyokushin!!! and if you think that this guy is good than you said all about you!!!! you must see the difference between karate kyokushin and kickbox....if that is the same for you that means that you dont know what karate is!!!! very sad.... OSU!
judoka dont have good guard...so he felt on the end...i can believe this....this karateka is so stupid or what?? he did less action than judoka......and that is stupid kyokushin...that is not real kyokushin!!!!!this is not karate....this is kickboxing with no actions.....just a bar of single kicks!!!! japanesse when attacking they dont stop!! i am talking fro kyokushin....and the other styles...but kyokushin on the 1.place as ne stopping in the round...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@TheFudokan take a chill pill ,in kyokushin it's not always attacking he probably took his time..have some respect least, by side in kyokushin have little judo
@hotpopcorncake in every TMA style of karate-do you have a little judo....I respect judo and kyokushin....and this is not real kyokushin...it is kickboxing with just a fwe kicks, and no actions.....so judoka in this fight seems better, bcs he was trying to win with more action.....and karateka was just waiting for good moment....and karateka was pussy bcs he didnot take his kimono, bcs than judoka would won!!!!!! so for me in this fight judoka was better....karateka should be better than this!
@TheFudokan Well man just think about a striker vs grappler, what you think the kyokushin fighter is going to be thinking inside his head?..just imagine being in his shoes..he not going to strike his way out..
if i the karate i wouldn't let him the advantage put the gi on. hell na that's just crazy my goal is beat the other guy..i bet if your in the ring and fight a BBJ would you do the same?
@hotpopcorncake you are right..but against BJJ a would wear my kimono.but 90 percent of them would not take kimono when fighting against judoka..but if you really want to be the best, and if you are karateka, you would take your kimono!!!!! and bcs this karateka did not wear his kimono, it means that he is afraid of judoka, and he is not shure in his victory.and he is a pussy bcs he is kicking judoka while he is on the floor.Lechi Kurbanov (kyokushin) beat bjj guy with KO kick! and he had kimono
@hotpopcorncake karateka won this match...but judoka was better.....and if karateka would wear his kimono and win against judoka, that would be full victory........so that means that karate ka is youst one of the kickboxers....he is not karateka!!!!
@TheFudokan Not karateka because he doesn't wear a gi? ....right. So are you suggesting the only difference in martialarts is the uniforms? Lucky he wasn't wearing chefs hat or you might think he was baking a cake or if he wore pilots gogles you might think he was flying a plane....
@aldridge1@aldridge1 I said he is not kyokushin karateka not bcs of GI, it is bcs he is not doing kyokushin!!! I know what kyokushin is!! and this is just like kickboxing..this karateka is attacking just with 1 strike every time!!! so dont you say to me what is kyokushin.....and I just said that this karateka is not wearing gi bcs of judo grappler so if you think that this is good kyokushin, than it means that you are like him,very bad!! go and look what real kyokushin is with-MIDORI KENJI OSU
@TheFudokan Andrews Nakahara is a well respected, very experienced Kyokushin fighter using Kyokushin techniques. Kyokushin is wide and varied and applied differently by different body types. Midori fights diferent to Matsui. Would you say Matsui is not Kyokushin? Valeri Dimitrov fights different to Midori. Is Dimitrov not Kyokushin? Nakahara is from Shihan Isobe's school under Shihan Francisco Filho. He is definetly using Kyokushin but in a way applicable to MMA. OSU
@aldridge1 I think I know what Fudokan is getting at. I know personal preference and individuality hold a huge place in Kyokushin, but we do tend to have three things in common-arrogance, aggression and power. It is considered an honour to fight without an advantage offered by clothing choice, we tend to refuse to back down and we tend to prefer a slugfest to a tactical bout. The lack of strikes Andrews launches in the standup clinches is a bit surprising, but, you do what you gotta to win.
It was good, but at the begining, the one who does karate shows his back to his enemy for a second, and he mustn't do that never... even thought the one who does judo didn't do anything. Never give your back. (Sorry for my bad english)
that judo player sucked ass any real judoka from japan would have smashed that karate guy!
ROBOSKOT 5 days ago
@ROBOSKOT busca en wikipedia la trayectoria de yoon dong sik
es un buen judoka, solo q perdio nadie es invencible
yuliano15 2 days ago
@ROBOSKOT doesnt need to come from japan..
R3dTigerM40A3 2 days ago
judo is number 2
RENATO75843 1 week ago
Kyokushin a way of life.
OSU!
MegaAnimek 2 weeks ago 2
judo is number one 1
619616KAMIL 2 weeks ago
OSU!!.....Kyokushin!!
MrPato1904 1 month ago
haha classic match up. But was the man with the gi the Judoka or was he the karateka. I love both styles. I train Judo and BJJ used to wrestle too, also have trained TKD for 7 years, muay thai for 3 and boxing for five. I can't wait to start fighting =).
Martialdoismyway 1 month ago
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ripdavip 1 month ago
jujitsu saved the kyokushin figther
cannaBcoin 1 month ago
i like taekwondo xD
UntamedMagnet 1 month ago
@UntamedMagnet teakwondo is badass but you have to mix it with wrestling/judo/bjj and you are a well skilled fighter ;)
momo200090 1 month ago
@momo200090 But i'm not wtf i train Gtfi, it has a little bit of that (hapkido) i'm thinking to do box as well
UntamedMagnet 1 month ago
@UntamedMagnet thats also a good mix keep training bro;)
momo200090 1 month ago
@momo200090 thanks, it's good to know that someone isn't like "My martial art is the best and that". Be cool bro :)
UntamedMagnet 1 month ago
@UntamedMagnet you're welcom bro;) those who sais ''my martial art is better'' shit doesn't even practicing martial arts.
all poor keyboard warriors.
momo200090 1 month ago
@momo200090 leave them die alone xD, cool to have this chat with you. (:
Maybe one day we will have a sparring type of thing xD
UntamedMagnet 1 month ago
@UntamedMagnet i hope so bro;) i live in antwerp belgium where do you live ???
momo200090 1 month ago
@momo200090 Portugal, Olhão not to far xD
UntamedMagnet 1 month ago
@UntamedMagnet haha ;)
momo200090 1 month ago
@momo200090 well in ITF taekwondo you actually learn self defence (wich is not hapkido) like the old taekwondo created by the korean military. so you don't always need to mix taekwonod with a other art to be bad ass even tho it's good that have ground work basics.
R3dTigerM40A3 3 weeks ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 yeah i know teakwondo is great but i mean if u living in belgium and that's only sport tkw the you need another art to mix it but if u are living in korea why not.
momo200090 2 weeks ago
@momo200090 it's nothing to do with the country actually it's all about the fighter that uses it that make the martial art deadly..
R3dTigerM40A3 2 weeks ago
@UntamedMagnet my base style is taekwondo and even though i only got half way to black, when i started doing mma and muay thai and stuff about 6 months ago my kicks were beast because of the understanding of the dynamics of a kick and all the power from taekwondo constantly training the legs, unfortunatley i was wtf, my favorite is kukkiwon though :)
babyblack94 1 month ago
@babyblack94 But it also depends of the fighter, and Tkd its always tkd. i think that to be the perfect fighter you need to pratice more than just one martial art
UntamedMagnet 1 month ago
@UntamedMagnet most definitely, I agree 100% the key to being a perfect fighter is learning more than 1 style and making it your own on top of that
babyblack94 1 month ago
I've been doing karate for about 9 months now. I'm a red belt. I've been watching a few videos of other martial arts, particularly jujitsu, judo, muay thai. I'm a bit worried that if I ever encounter some that does grapples and wrestling instead of purely strikes I'm going to lose every single fight. I know there are grapples and throws in karate but we never do them at our club :(
TheLolthazun 1 month ago
What event or Show is this? The description is telling nothing about. Thanks.
robertvoice 2 months ago
@robertvoice Andrews Nakahara vs Dong Sik Yoon at Dream 6.
LewisAlunWilliams 2 months ago
kyokushin e a melhor arte ossu
kakyoish 2 months ago
kyokushin a arte de pedra inquebravel invencivel ossu
kakyoish 2 months ago 5
Haha, probably - idiot.
What I said about Le is that he never claimed he's of one style, while both other always pretend to be karatekas. Since you're not everybody in UFC, don't explain how nobody there repsects Kyokushin, cause it's an infantile childish way of argumentation. I know you're retard, but still...
Cung Le - Taekwondo? HAHAHHA!! Man, you're completely illiterate about fightinig. Kyokushin is considered the most brutal and it's one of the most effective styles. Taekwondo is crap.
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@AryanBulgar no, muay thai is consedered the most brutal style..you retarded dumbass..taekwondo's kicks are the most brutal..and cung le train taekwondo..and george st-pierre made a korean taekwondo master go down to canada just to learn a taekwondo back kick. taekwondo kicks are effective. ITF taekwonod punch is the second most effective punch- proved on fight science.
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar respect for kyokushin bro;) but don't say teakwondo sucks in every country.
momo200090 2 weeks ago
Cung Le is also kickboxer nad trains Sanshou. Dan Handerson? Hahah! Stupid. Anyway, two fighters among thousands of others are not prove, but disprove. And yet, Schilt, Saint-Pierre, Andy Hug, Filho, Rutten... That's engugh. No one fights at long range for one simple reason: in MMA match if you throw a kick without success, a grapler will take you down immediately. They fight at standart distance at wich Taekwondo is inadequate.I remember seing antoerh video of Lechi Kurbanov annihilating judoka
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@AryanBulgar saint-pierre is probally the only one good in there..and why did you say cung le is also a kickboxer and a sanshou fighter while gsp is also a muay thai fighter and a boxer? eh? nobody in ufc fight like kyokushin..they all fight kickboxing/muay thay style. at close range they do muay thai clinch like i said..not kyokushin..and cung le is mostly taekwondo..his kicks are taekwondo..and are you retarded? taekwondo is good at standard distance..especially traditionel style of tkd,stupid
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R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
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@AryanBulgar i mean dan hardy and not dan handerson..there is also stephane bonnar, shogun rua, david loiseau, bas rutten, mirko crocop, joe rogan and anderson silva have a taekwondo background..thats the only one that i know..and a good mma who train taekwondo but is not in ufc or k1 its andre lima..
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
Deliver those 800+ punds plus in your fag ass, cretin moron. There's no successful Taekwondo fighter in K1 or MMA, while it's plenty of karatekas. And BJJ is even more spred than Judo too. A pseudo judoka like you makes judokas be like lying bitches - better be a dancer, eh, pussy? And go make sparring with a karateka to see how he'll wipe your ass, you can't use knees, elbows, punches. Kyokushin owns and rules, you jealous inferior.
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
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@AryanBulgar your telling me that cung le in k-1 is not a successful fighter?? and dan handerson also?? lmfao you are retarded..and no one in ufc fight like a kyokushin fighter..they all fight at long range most of the time they all use muay thai clinch for close range..and i did faught my friend he was going to knee me but i back kicked him..either way..i beat him also on ground figthing.. a knee its not hard to do...elbow either..throw tho u need to know them before trying them fucking failure
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 Cung Le never made K1 GP final or even K1 top 16. Actually I don't think any TKD ever made the final. They were always eliminated in prelim fights. Kyokushin fighters like Sam Greco, Andy Hug, Glaube Feitosa, Fransisco Filho regularly made the K1 GP final. The record shows that the K1 has only ever been won by Muay Thai or Kyokushin fighters. In K1 TKD and Cung Le don't rate
aldridge1 1 month ago
@aldridge1 cung le is still one of the best fighter in k-1..he was the champion in 2005,,that meant he beat every muay thai and kyokushin fighter in k-1.
R3dTigerM40A3 1 month ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 Cung Le has never fought in the K1 final. the 2005 champ was Semi Schilt from seido karate (a kyokushin offshoot) by defeating Glaube Feitosa (kyokushin). the '05 las vegas K1 tournament was won by Feitosa. Cung Le has never even fought any K1 top 8 fighter and has never won any K1 tournament. Cung Le has only ever beaten 3rd rate nobodies in K1. look it up
aldridge1 1 month ago
@aldridge1 Can't prove anything to that idiot man, check our dispute lasted for pages of comments.
AryanBulgar 1 month ago
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@AryanBulgar yes. i think your the idiot man here because you were trashing taekwondo on a judo/karate video, bitch. cung le was actually a mma champion in 2003-2005. you think you can prove something? your saying taekwondo suck while its all about the fighter and not the martial art...how stupid you are...all i'm saying is judo have more advantage than karate or any striking art.
R3dTigerM40A3 1 month ago
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@R3dTigerM40A3 Cung Le has never fought in the K1 final. the 2005 champ was Semi Schilt from seido karate (a kyokushin offshoot) by defeating Glaube Feitosa (kyokushin). the '05 las vegas K1 tournament was won by Feitosa. Cung Le has never even fought any K1 top 8 fighter and has never won any K1 tournament. Cung Le has only ever beaten 3rd rate nobodies in K1. look it up
aldridge1 1 month ago
Judo doesn't have more advantage on the ground than BJJ, but still that doesn't make it bad, it's better for submissioning. And I ment you write how better is Judo than Kyokushin on a video where a karateka wins over judoka, you stupid crap. BJJ is a bit different from the original, cause the brazilian monkeys set it on the ground work mainly and left submisssioning and throws away.
And since there're plenty of MMA fighters with BJJ and Kyokushin, but no one with Taekwondo - guess what, dumb!
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
And yet,in Kyokushin,Kickboxing,Thaiboxing we take those kicks with no protection.So you proved again you chose this pussy style very sutiable for you.Taekwondo is nothing more than acrobatic. So, you dellusional moron,Judo is not as good for the ground ad BJJ, while the second is not good for throwings and submission as Judo.You can't understand basic thnigs in martial arts, you're retard and inferior cretin fighter.
And since you write judokas are better than karatekas - watch the video again
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar we cant say wich art is better from a single video you retard, and yes, judo as more advantage than bjj on the ground..bjj is acctually japanss jiu-jitsu but different names and minimum modifications....you are retarded if you say a art is better beacause of one single video..in almost evry videos on youtube, judokas beat bjj fighters..i think karate and taekwondo are both dancers acctually..both balets dancers..judo is the real art.
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
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@AryanBulgar no kicks in kyokushin and kickboxing is even close of 800+ pounds of forces by the way..so they cant take those kicks..else they would always get knockout in each blow to the face..wich is not the case in kickboxing and kyokushin..fucking retard
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
Haha, not a protection? Sure, it's obvious you're taekwondo pussy. So it's obvious you're not familiar, but in Thaiboxing and other styles, there're no protection for the legs, the gloves are for a reason, once Kyokushin was bare knuckles punches to the face, but that leads often even to death.
You don't look like a dancer, you're like a fag, rolling on the floor and pretending how good you're. Judoka doesn't know what to do in stance, you smartass. Dumb, retard, jerk cretin!
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar lol..kicks that deliver 800 pounds of forces can surely kill someone..or do some permanently damages..its proved that taekwondo has the deadliest kicks...fastest and strongest. you idiot. something rolling on the floor is effective when you are on the ground. you dumb karateka.dipshit. either way..can you stop talking about taekwondo? thats not my style..im a judoka..you cant admit that judokas can beat any karateka dancers..so u keep trolling the taekwondo..i am judokas..not tkd
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
Oh, moron, you can grab my dick and suck it. Taekwondo is sure not tought, but pussy style and it's suited for you. Stupid, don't compare grapling and striking, there's no way to conclude which one is better.
Hard to say if Sambo or freestyle Wrestling are worst than Judo. BJJ is better for locks. But to take you down, as a judoka can, it's not. So instead of fuck off - fuck you, moron.
In ITF there're protectors on your feet, HAHAHH! You're dumbass, don't know your style even.
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar i dont really count that as protection..just like muay thai fighters that have fighting gloves..you little fuck. and i'm not familiar with pro taekwondo but i think they dont wear any feet protections..but my style is judo and not taekwondo..its judo..check out kimura and yoshida...they both defeated helio gracie and royce gracie..and thats why i mostly quited tkd and did not go in kyokushin...i dont want to look like a dancer..
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar and to conclude wich one is better its easy..the dancer that doesnt know what to do once on the ground is the looser. judokas is the winner.
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
Just cut it out, moron. Your style is Taekwondo and you said it. Mine one is Kyokushin and I do punches to the face. And so there is some ground work in Kyokushin, just it's not grapling oriented and no one claims we're graplers. But we try some for more skills, cause Kyokushin is a style constantly developping.
Taekwondo is semicontact and you're fully equipped with protectors, you gay assholes. You use your arms only to jack. Go in Kyokushin dojo and ask for a sparring, idiot!
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar no, i quited taekwondo..my style is judo now..you fuckass motherfucker..in ITF and PRO taekwondo there is no gear by the way..just like karate..but to win you have to knock out your opponent..either way..both style are like balets...i do judo now..i'd just grab your ass..put it down and break your arm..judo ftw..judo's groundwork is supperior to BJJ..and for the throws..we have the best in martial arts..and judo is easy to improv movements in street. so if you can fuck off please.
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
Shinken shobu is Kyokushin way of sparring, stupid. Go educate yourself more about. And Kyokushin has punches to the face, while your fag crap style has no arms, elbows and it's semi contact, you taeclowndo idiot.
Since Oyama is the founder of Kyokushin and was a high rank judoka, guess isn't there groundwork in Kyokushin. You stupid vile internet troll fighter.
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar my style is judo, retard and kyokushin has no punches to the face in competitions...i dont know if hewas a that good judokas since kimura had to learn him how to do groundwork..but anyways there isno fucking groundwork in kyokushin and no punches to theface...and itf taekwondo have punches to th face..so we can use our arms..you educate yourself
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
I know it's japanese, you stupid crap, I said "korean martial arts and Aikido". Since you can laugh with your stupid way of seing martial arts, I cry when I read what you write.
As I said, you illiterate dumfuck, we've punches to the face, knees, elbows and it's all practiced in Shinken shobu rules. The classical way makes your body harder, cause of bare knuckles, while your crap style is semi contact, hahah! It might be proven only taeclowndo to be the most uneffective, nothing else.Gay moron
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar this video is about kyokusin, you dumbass..not shiken shobu craps..lol fucking moron who thinks aikido is korean fucking retard..there is no punch in th face in kyokushin..its just gay close combat shit..
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar and dude my style is judo now so i dont care..fucing retarded..kimura learned some ground work to oyama..doesnt mean he introduced grounwork in karate
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
Oh, I got it, you're TaeCLOWNdo jerk. I've never seen korean martial art that is effective. Can say the same for Aikido. So, moron, first of all, you can't use your hands, which is the essence of the fight, cause your style is kicking oriented, second: you don't have knees or even low kick. And you dare to give note of Kyokushin?
So, stupid, in Kyokushin there's some ground training, no matter what you shit here, crapfag.
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar aikido is japanesse you fucktared ignorant piece of shit, you really are a laughable fuck headed moron eh? you style does'nt even allow punches in face so i'd shut th fuck up, itsprovedthat taekwondo has te most effective kicks an itf taekwondo hve exelant punching..if you tak traditionel taekwondo there is even som throws...so for the 3m kicking i could reach your ugly face and knock you down..there is even some elbow strikes..so yeah. learn your shit faggot
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
Sure, everyone, who's into martial arts know ground fighting or strikig are both necessary. Sure Judo is better for the ground than Kyokushin, the way Kyokushin is better for striking than Judo - what do you mean in general? "Close range punch and kicking" - you what, smartass, want to throw a kick from 3 m distance? I bet you've no idea for Shinken shobu rules of Kyokushin, true the classical sparring allows shorter distance, but it's only for competition, you learn other in the dojo.
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar fucking retarded..there is no ground work in kyokushin..sensei todays dont learn their student how to fight on the ground. thats why i chooses judo like a said..and i said close range beacause i am a black belt in taekwondo and i can easily reach someone from 3 m with a idan bijigi..i don't train kykushin beacause it useless for me...back in thedays there was a bit of kyokushin groundwork wich was takan from judo..but not anymore
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
@R3DtlgerM40A3 Judo seems superior to Kyokushin only to you. Since the first is grapling, the second is striking, the only way to compare is in MMA. Most of what I've seen, Kyokushin rules over Judo in that kind of fight. Not that I find Judo bad, it's very good.
You've been in Kyokushin dojo a few times it seems. True, Kyokushin isn't grapling oriented, but it's better to do a bit of it, than nothing. So A Kyokushin fighter got some idea what to do on the ground.
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar not only to me. to anyone who believe that ground fighting is useful. when you are in a fight, your main goal is to throw you opponent on the ground..but if you get throw..uses groundfighting is good. joint locks, arm locks, chokes. etcc.. in kyokushin fights i've seen, its only close range punch and kicking..so no need to call m smart ass..they are both good.i like both..i just prefer judo
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
lamentablemente el judoka no era nada bueno,de hecho no realizo ninguna tecnica de judo cosa que si hizo el contrario intentando un jiji-gatame
megg1963 2 months ago
the judo fighter is bad he can fight vs me my judo is the Best!
numtzun 2 months ago
@numtzun he was not bad but this fight was unfair for don ski yoon.
momo200090 2 months ago
So all around trained fighter against an all around fighter with weaker kickboxing.
electronikita 2 months ago
OSU!!
InHousePussy 2 months ago
in mma ring, karatekas need other arts to beat a judoka most of the time beacause karate got no ground work
R3dTigerM40A3 3 months ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 How insightful, would you care to tell us some more!?
electronikita 2 months ago
@R3dTigerM40A3 That is an MMA fight, smartass. Most of all, Kyokushin Karate do some ground works, there're also Kyokushin MMA competitions.
AryanBulgar 2 months ago
@AryanBulgar yes. kimura, a champion of judo learn some ground work to oyama. the founder of kyokushin.then introduced some in karate. but let me tell you i've never seen any karatekas doing ground work...they must be bad at it since today, the senseis dont teach ground work very well. ive been in a kyokushin dojo and all they were doing was kickin pads and sparring. to me the judo seems alot supperior.
R3dTigerM40A3 2 months ago
Unfair for the Judo-Man!!
AnonymeGirly 3 months ago
@AnonymeGirly what is unfair ??? the kyokushin guy just kicked his ass !!! yeah !!
not saying that kyokushin is a better ma then judo but this was fair.
momo200090 3 months ago
@AnonymeGirly Why?
Giao1 2 months ago
МОлодец Бля!!
717Alexei 4 months ago
beautiful trick kick @ 5:10 and on
ScopedOUT2 4 months ago
kyokushin
yeah!!!
MetalAndFuckingPunk 4 months ago 24
kyokushin won right ???
momo200090 4 months ago
awesome.
MrFreshfreddie 6 months ago
If that kyokushin fighter have some clothes on it he would be DEAD! Tust Judoka cant grab someone without cloches. It was almost impossible task for the judoka to own that kyokushin fighter.
localdisk100 7 months ago
@localdisk100 he's got arms doesn't he? maybe the judoka should grab those.
NixeonDead 6 months ago
@NixeonDead mabye its not so easy to grab the arms, can U grab the arms of some boxer or other striker, cuz they are moving VERY fast. and judoka trows are mostly by grapping the rever and sleev. they dont grab whole hand even if they can.
localdisk100 6 months ago
@localdisk100 the other guy was doing a very good job of stiff arming him every time he got close but they did go to the clinch a few times. In the clinch its very easy to pull off throws if you know what you're doing whether or not your opponent is wearing a gi. The judoka chose to do a double leg take down instead and I'm not sure why. A throw would have at least stunned him when the went to the ground.
The guy with no gi was simply better and the guy in the gi made poor choices.
NixeonDead 6 months ago
@NixeonDead I saw 3 clinches, and in the 3 of them the judoka was in fucking bad position (even for him on the ground) . And the 3th time judoka couldnt do doble leg take down cuz he couldnt grab kyokushin fighter for the shorts. 5:26 as you see it's because of the material of shorts.
Im agree that kyokushin fighter was good, and judoka could do better, but it was too easy win for the kyokushin fighter.
localdisk100 6 months ago
because he wasn't just using Kyokushin and he was the better fighter, they don't teach you to fight on the ground like that in Kyokushin class, No desrecpect to Kyokushin, I'm also a Karateka, But this is in no way Kyukosuhin vs Judo. That would entail one guy using nothing but Judo and the other using nothing but Kyokushin.
Judokkaa 6 months ago
@Judokkaa I train Kyokushin and we teach some grapling techniques, have some MMA preparation.
AryanBulgar 6 months ago
@AryanBulgar I do to, but my point is that grappling isn't really part of Kyokushin.
Judokkaa 6 months ago
@localdisk100 so you could never fight on a beach, if you'd get attacked on there, where you and your opponent are probably just wearing a swimsuit, you couldn't fight. Is it right?
Gio86k4l 6 months ago
@Gio86k4l Well if mine opponent is pro kyokuhin fighter would be very very hard. Its other fact that this guy is not just kokushin fighter.
localdisk100 6 months ago
osu!!!!!
yakraiv 7 months ago
so boring match D8
Mikkyun20 7 months ago
@Mikkyun20 ofcouse. judu sux
EchoNatek 6 months ago
he kicked his ass... literally ))))
aydishka1 7 months ago
one guy is fighting i can get that but why the other one is trying to hug him?
aydishka1 7 months ago
Kyokushin is the best ! osu!
Genten96 7 months ago
One guy looks like he's going surfing, the other at least looks like a real martial artist. & both fight like street thugs/sloppy kickboxers.... What has happened to TMA ?
hellome2u2me 8 months ago
no I said that midori kenji is doing real old kyokushin....matsui too, Valeri too , but comparing to this guy on the video he is doing just kickboxing!!! not kyokushin!!! and if you think that this guy is good than you said all about you!!!! you must see the difference between karate kyokushin and kickbox....if that is the same for you that means that you dont know what karate is!!!! very sad.... OSU!
TheFudokan 8 months ago
the judokas ground game is horrible. he could finish him multiple times.
thanatas 9 months ago
judoka dont have good guard...so he felt on the end...i can believe this....this karateka is so stupid or what?? he did less action than judoka......and that is stupid kyokushin...that is not real kyokushin!!!!!this is not karate....this is kickboxing with no actions.....just a bar of single kicks!!!! japanesse when attacking they dont stop!! i am talking fro kyokushin....and the other styles...but kyokushin on the 1.place as ne stopping in the round...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheFudokan 10 months ago
@TheFudokan take a chill pill ,in kyokushin it's not always attacking he probably took his time..have some respect least, by side in kyokushin have little judo
hotpopcorncake 10 months ago
@hotpopcorncake in every TMA style of karate-do you have a little judo....I respect judo and kyokushin....and this is not real kyokushin...it is kickboxing with just a fwe kicks, and no actions.....so judoka in this fight seems better, bcs he was trying to win with more action.....and karateka was just waiting for good moment....and karateka was pussy bcs he didnot take his kimono, bcs than judoka would won!!!!!! so for me in this fight judoka was better....karateka should be better than this!
TheFudokan 10 months ago
@TheFudokan Well man just think about a striker vs grappler, what you think the kyokushin fighter is going to be thinking inside his head?..just imagine being in his shoes..he not going to strike his way out..
if i the karate i wouldn't let him the advantage put the gi on. hell na that's just crazy my goal is beat the other guy..i bet if your in the ring and fight a BBJ would you do the same?
hotpopcorncake 10 months ago
@hotpopcorncake you are right..but against BJJ a would wear my kimono.but 90 percent of them would not take kimono when fighting against judoka..but if you really want to be the best, and if you are karateka, you would take your kimono!!!!! and bcs this karateka did not wear his kimono, it means that he is afraid of judoka, and he is not shure in his victory.and he is a pussy bcs he is kicking judoka while he is on the floor.Lechi Kurbanov (kyokushin) beat bjj guy with KO kick! and he had kimono
TheFudokan 10 months ago
@hotpopcorncake karateka won this match...but judoka was better.....and if karateka would wear his kimono and win against judoka, that would be full victory........so that means that karate ka is youst one of the kickboxers....he is not karateka!!!!
TheFudokan 10 months ago
@TheFudokan Not karateka because he doesn't wear a gi? ....right. So are you suggesting the only difference in martialarts is the uniforms? Lucky he wasn't wearing chefs hat or you might think he was baking a cake or if he wore pilots gogles you might think he was flying a plane....
aldridge1 8 months ago
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TheFudokan 8 months ago
@aldridge1 @aldridge1 I said he is not kyokushin karateka not bcs of GI, it is bcs he is not doing kyokushin!!! I know what kyokushin is!! and this is just like kickboxing..this karateka is attacking just with 1 strike every time!!! so dont you say to me what is kyokushin.....and I just said that this karateka is not wearing gi bcs of judo grappler so if you think that this is good kyokushin, than it means that you are like him,very bad!! go and look what real kyokushin is with-MIDORI KENJI OSU
TheFudokan 8 months ago
@TheFudokan Andrews Nakahara is a well respected, very experienced Kyokushin fighter using Kyokushin techniques. Kyokushin is wide and varied and applied differently by different body types. Midori fights diferent to Matsui. Would you say Matsui is not Kyokushin? Valeri Dimitrov fights different to Midori. Is Dimitrov not Kyokushin? Nakahara is from Shihan Isobe's school under Shihan Francisco Filho. He is definetly using Kyokushin but in a way applicable to MMA. OSU
aldridge1 8 months ago
@aldridge1 I think I know what Fudokan is getting at. I know personal preference and individuality hold a huge place in Kyokushin, but we do tend to have three things in common-arrogance, aggression and power. It is considered an honour to fight without an advantage offered by clothing choice, we tend to refuse to back down and we tend to prefer a slugfest to a tactical bout. The lack of strikes Andrews launches in the standup clinches is a bit surprising, but, you do what you gotta to win.
psychedashell 4 months ago
@hotpopcorncake and it was very hard for judoka bcs karateka didnot wear kimono, but judoka was still better!
TheFudokan 10 months ago
@hotpopcorncake and Mas Oyama-founder of kyokushin was judoka at first!!!
TheFudokan 10 months ago
@TheFudokan His first style was Kempo/Kenpo, then boxing. I can't recall if Judo was third or fourth...
psychedashell 4 months ago
It was good, but at the begining, the one who does karate shows his back to his enemy for a second, and he mustn't do that never... even thought the one who does judo didn't do anything. Never give your back. (Sorry for my bad english)
shesAyna 10 months ago
That was a good match (for once).
Both did well, but being a former karate student myself, I'm glad the karateka proved that grappling doesn't always win!
wardishy 11 months ago
Good job karate!!
michinco 1 year ago
they shold title this as
"Japanese VS Korean"!!
Although, Judo is from Japan! NOT from Korea!
joyouslife4all 1 year ago
Wonderful Sensei Nakahara!
MissRobertaRuiva 1 year ago
when and what channel are pride fights on? i have cox and i can't find any pride
krysistheabyss 1 year ago