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  • congrates you beat a moderate AI

  • @ChibiSenpai hey Retro2, prehaps you remember me. my name was willwest22 and i played with you and coolio3000 a few years back..

  • i think to rush like this dont work well on TAD you shoud try on orgianl age of empires.

    and your card order shoud be:3 settlrse

    5 jains

    3 cavs

    afther then its upp to you.. you can do 700 gold and do a fast age if you want... or you can do 700 food and make one more brakker.. or 700 gold and buildmosque. or 4 settlrse and than one resores card... or you can do native shipsment and build 2 tradingpost on native...

  • I can never seem to produce enough units with ottomans, jannisaries are just so expensive...

  • @KenArrari You'll need lots of food for the Janissaries, but only 1/4 of that for gold.

    100 Food

    25 Gold

    Therefore, it's always best to have a 1/4 ratio of villagers on gold (mining) and food (hunting). Without Moqsue Upgrades, you can get 25 total vills. With that number, 20 on Food, 5 on Gold is a 1/4 ratio.

    Which means you'll acquire 25 Gold and 100 Food at approximately the same time - which lets you then create a Janissary.

    One whole Jan Set: 500F/125G.

  • @tjbyrum1 you know you can get 99 settlres?

  • @BmaRayCyrus Yes I do, however you must research upgrades to get that high.

    Since I do not waste wood on the Mosque, and do not waste resources on the upgrades, I just keeo my count at 25.

  • @BmaRayCyrus Yes I do, however you must research upgrades to get that high.

    Since I do not waste wood on the Mosque, and do not waste resources on the upgrades, I just keep my count at 25.

  • Worst goddamn music EVER

  • ULTIMATE OTTOMAN RUSH?

    its maby strong for a lance corperal to do this rush but i take it down easy.

    you need to use 500 food to get the perfect... its more resores and you will need the resores...

    people that use 400 wood is often builiding 2 brakers... if you dod the 3hussars card use its as your first card afther age up.

    your card is ok but not pretty strong

  • want a wahy to take down a true janis rush?

    i rush much nerly like this, when i do ottmans

    whach my video:

    Age Of Empires3: online battle: Germans vs Ottomans

    i'm sorry but i dont know how to post it as video respons

  • Yeah, this is a joke. 6 minutes into the game I can have atleast a full army of Crossbow men. Or an outpost or 2. You basically just destroyed an unarmed opponent's town. The opponent sucked btw.

  • this would neve work against anyone that knows how to play. with only that many janns, your are pretty much just sending them to die against pretty much anyone. You have to attack with at least 25. got to make sure first strike is killing blow. jans are too expensive to waste

  • @CrittyWitty Depends vs what civilisation. Against germans it can work vnicely as they can only win with FF . Against russians I would not try it but hey... otto's are OP and hussars will do the job combined with janis to destroy the musks. Greets Zuipschuit 2k+ rating ,)

  • You can have silk road on original version if you want to know

  • whats the next video? and don't you have one for aoe3 classic?

  • Way too slow you age up at 3:15

    Should be aiming for age up at around 2:40 for Ottoman

    Build 5 janisarries + 5 from shipment = 10

    By the time you have 15 it should be around 6:00

    

  • Hey guys, I would love to make a vid but unfortunatly i do not have a program to record that will not lag my game. Anyhow this is how I rush starting on nomad age. First I start off by selecting all but one villager to get food from animals and the one villager that is left, is left to make a market. And if I can manage to get 50 coin, i use it for "hunting dogs" improvements. And then by the time I am done aging I have 2 people on coin, 2/3people on wood and the rest on food...

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  • How come whenever Mind of Retro2 plays, there are absolutely no enemy forces? Im sure the enemy would have had SOMETHING! mabye a pair of outposts or xbows.

  • Hot music, what is it? :o

  • when you buy TAD do you get a new eso online account?

  • @Shoelaceist do you know this by now? I also like to know that

  • @OezguerYasar 10 minutes! I can go Age 3 and make 3 TC's + fort in 10 minutes.

  • music so bad.

  • Ur pretty good man this is really gonna help me learn otto plz mag me back if u still play or not

  • You still play mate ?

  • so u dont even build a market?

  • what song is this?

  • retro2... Maybe I will, you still play of course..

  • still have to practice just started playing again 2 days ago

  • whats the name of that song?

  • i often make much outposts and try making a revolution in about 12 mins on plains (with 4 outposts and 1 fort)...usually thats bashing nasty rushers like russians XD outposts fuck them

  • ottomans are the best, brits are shit!

  • well, i'm 1st lui, and with that tactic, you won't be kicking any ass, besides noobass, first you always make 2 barracks, because you cant do shit with 15 jans, defently against good players you have to sen, 700 food, 600 food, and then 5 jans, until you have around 40 jans when you reach min 9, and then you own..

  • good

  • yeah that ottoman rush is cool...probably the best way to rush with ottos outside the IOR

  • I have a feeling i updated this long ago but didn't post it on youtube oh well....because now that i look back it is somewhat terrible :S

  • I remember now! I had more strategy in my "Do not put on youtube" rush, which is actually better than JUST Jans

  • yes this is much better if you mix it with abus guns and horses

  • @Nollerke build only one brakers is not weaker than build 2, but you will maby need to build more later...

    if you build 2 brakers you will still build 2-3 in ea of your brakers... so its not much different to do 1 or 2 brakers... ofte is captains building one... if you build one you need to do cavs card first then 5 jains or 5 jains than 3 cavs, afther then you need 700 food... it is posible to take down other capains whit this rush. but if you got low homecity lvl you need to do 2 brakers.

  • Awsome video i use the brits lol

  • nice for the tips

  • great video quality

  • you cant do this shit in moderate in expert he will advance first.

  • this video, unfortunately for me, proves that you can do it in moderate, however in expert they get handicap, which is why they advance first

  • only a corperal?

  • that was a long time ago...i forget if i'm a master sgt or a 2nd luitenent....

  • Im a major general :P

  • coool!

  • 5. Ship 5 cossacks, spawn strelets. 6. Ship 13 strelets, spawn strelets. You have about 2 minutes till he ages to build an army. You'll have an army of around 80 by then. If he has more than 2 outposts, retreat. Send your army to destroy barracks, or any hope of a rebellion. Knock out his towncenter. This is vital. Shipments are what drives a successful rush. Without his town center, your are free to boom. Even if it takes all 80 of your military, once his town center is gone - its over!

  • like i said before, impressive, you should make AoE Vids as well :D

  • Rush should ONLY be used against weak economic civs (slow age civs). Weaknesses: Outposts, cavalry - Dutch, British/Strengths: Ottomans, Germans* (slow villagers, slow aging, slow military capabilities). 1. 2 villagers on chords of resources, the rest immediatly on food. Send explorer out for treasures (you need them). 2. Set one villager out to your enemies side (to later build a blockhouse). 3. Age around 2:30. 4. Build blockhouse with 400 wood. Set shipments to that blockhouse.

  • I enjoy learning new rushes, but this rush would never work. Russians can have an army of 100 by the time you've aged (4:46). Take the tradepost at the center of the map! Don't ship 3 villagers, ship wood (ottomans need that). Once in age II, ship military units 1st (5 jans & 3 hussars) & then crates of food. Remember that Russians can build an outpost (barracks) in age I, giving them the ability to quickly ship cossacks right in front of your civ! My russian rush gets to age 2 in about 2:30!

  • impressive =)

  • no way can you get to age 2 in 2:30 maybe unless you make no villagers.

  • Russians don't need villagers.

    Benjib, I'll be glad to play you, if you would like to play a lv. 31 major.

  • what do you rely on then? shipments?

  • usually we all have to rely on shipments since shipments give you villagers, and crates which are really good, and sometimes armies for some rushes. However i have heard about a Russian rush that doesn't require too much villagers, i believe Mr. Milo made one

    ---Mr.Milo is a Admin for those who don't know

  • Yeah i know who Mr. Milo is. Russians dont get villager shipments. They get 13 strels and 4 and 5 cossacks. A Garrisoned TC will kill all of that.

  • The point of a Russian Rush is to disrupt his settlers. Remember that strelets are a weak seige unit and cossacks are substantially better. Cavalry is the Russian's weakness (meaning the German's are its ultimate weakness). Below is a rundown of a simple Russian Rush. Easily beaten by an opponent who ages at around 3:00, but has a resistence to the Germans. This is essentially an anti-German rush (due to the German's small villager count - a quick economic knockout).

  • that was a noobish rush...if you play against other people you'll fall in 10 min,you have no chance...and go trhought colonial age in 2 min is impossible...you are a noob and a lyer

  • please do challenge me, although i do liike how people speak their opinions, i've actually done this against real ppl about 20 times in a row i won, however they were coprs and sgts or just about. and one thing... don't make big statements that you can't prove....the noob part sure but i don't see how i'm a lier.

  • .....i meant liar

  • very good guy , can u make one of japanese like that please.

  • nice rush, make a vid on this on hard or expert if u can please.

  • look up Retro2 and Superwill6 vs Hard Ai, thats us using this strat against 2 hard Ai, which isn't hard :P

  • nice vid and very clever since ottomans get free settlers. but you can rush easily with indians with the speed production dance.

  • yep and eco boom with it as well

  • no mames pinches otomanos siempre se me han hecho un fastidio,´pero parece un buen rush, intentare usarlo alguna vez.

  • if anyone can translate i'd appreciate it, but i understand that he said its a good rush...i think =D

  • in my opinion the otomans are a poor civilization, but its a good rush, i cant wait to try that one. (sorry for my bad english)

    whats its the name of the song?

  • I WISH-CUTIEPIE, its a weird name but its from Mabinogi

  • u are just a noob learn first playing :D:D:D

  • honestly don't assume its not my first time playing dude, this was made in July 08, i have learned much more since then. Sure i was a noob back then.....now i'm just a normal player, not expert.....u have any vids u wanna share?

  • i bought game in dec 2005.. lolz 45 quid !!! but how long u have been playing doesnt give u any advantage atall..im like rank master serg online and i get my arse kicked by basically any1 tbh so u should really say hes a noob. and nice vid. u still play chibi ?

  • i play rarely but if anyone wants to play with me i'll get online =)

  • hi i saw your video but i think that you are to slow during the played game.. and you had a little army wel however i will add you and challenge you for a 1 vs 1 battle my name on aoe 3 is alessandro_19

  • TAD or vanilla? because TAD is rigged with OP civs but i'll try my best. if its AoE then i'll feel a bit more comfortable

  • Also the fact that you specifically chose henry the navigator( who neglects army for economy) doesnt fill me with confidence.

  • check out me and superwill vs hard Ai, that might re-inspire you or it might not.

  • dude... ports are epic at rush... they are awesome at getting food, i can get 11 villies then advance and i can get 50 musket in like... hmm 6 minutes and advance is 3 so 9 minutes. pleasee get ur facts straight fhm =] but tbh chibi, make a vid online and prove to em that ur awesome

  • thats true, i had a friend who was really good at ports rush, he was number 10 on ladders....before they erased those ladders.

  • what did you mean with ''expert is cheats''??

    i handled 1v2 on expert.

  • expert has handicap which means it gathers faster than you and build armies faster, so its not like a human, so i wouldn't want to do it against an expert cuz it would have the advantage, which a human will not have because humans vs humans is pretty much equal.....and right bout now all that I have said is argue-able....

  • but then again me doing it on hard and moderate is questionable...

  • Lol, why do you say ottoman rush is hard to do on Hard Difficulty? It is easy, Takes like 3 min to Age up, and for the computer like 5/6...

    So when they age up, I already have gathered an army, so they dont stand a chance.

  • i never said it was hard to do, and i thought it might take a while with hard but with my other recent vids i realized it wasn't even hard. Otto rush is hard vs British Human players cause teh brits counter ottos, hoped that helped a bit

  • Yeah Ottomans really dont stand much of a chance against British, atleast not the human players, there I cant disagree.

    Well, gg mate.. continue doing another one :)

  • reply song name plz?

  • An Old song from Grandma-Mabinogi Soundtrack

  • lol otto rush in hard dont take a while, not to me

  • yep

  • i might actually do that if you slowed it down and made it to 2 parts. Right now i honestly can't get anything you've done and remember it clearly enough to use in game. Also, do you have the results of your rush verses that other guys, who made that youtube video?

  • i was thinking bout that then i thought that'd be a lot of work however i do believe i have the original clips still if you want me to make it again except two parts...however i might not do annotations....that other guys who made that youtube video...what do u mean? ( did someone made a youtube video about me =D ? )

  • No, sorry i should hav ebeen more clear, he made a youtube video about a pure janissary rush. It looked quiet effective. Nevermind though i can't remember what the video was called, i thinkit was just called "Ottomans".

  • I'll try to beat him if you want...might be juamp who is a friend of mine, but I don't really go picking fights on youtube too much...i think...if you can get his consent then i'll do it

  • ^VERY NICE

  • thanks chibi that fixed my problem :)

  • hey chibi i can bot get the hyper player to play without it flickering.any ideals?

  • do u have the game in windowed mode, if so then your good, if not do so :P however the hypercam only records whats inside the flickering box, and press "select region" and then select the screen, and then start recording. Now its also good if you have Windows Movie Maker so you can edit it and add some music =) hope that helped

  • was ggs

  • lol this is the worst "rush" i have ever seen!you consider a 5 min age 2 fast?any good otto can age up under 4 min and have 15+ jans at 5 min

  • silly this is a vid, if you want the real deal vs me =D

  • ok add me i am god_has_failed_u

  • that was cool the first game, almost had u, then the rest were just really weak ( as in I was weak) :P You are a good opponent

  • I would never

    think of the idea using ottos on TAD.

  • you mean this one?

  • no, i mean you only get 200 wood maybe if your lucky 300 on TAD,ifyou get 300 you can build a TP but then you wouldn't have enough to build a house so you have to bother gather wood to build house fast so that would be a waste of time to age up.

  • lol you get 300 wood so all you need is 50 wood to make a house sending a few villies early will get you 50 wood before your tenth villy arrives and still up around 4 mins

  • every second is valueable.

  • yeah and so is the exp you get from building the tp and xp you get from the trav that passes it.that means you get to send 3 villagers earlier which means more resources and a shipment when aging

  • u can also build a house or two and a church/mosque since its only 100 wood on TAD and it provides u with xp

  • i'm more concerned about getting a rush as fast as possible so i want 3 vil card as fast as possible in 1st age for better eco and faster age up. when i'm in age 2 i send 5 jan card as fast as possible + build a barracks at the same time, so i have 10 janniz, 1 explorer ready at 5 minutes SHARP.

  • what you said can only be achieved by building a tp.if you do not build a tp first you will not get your 1st shipment until your about ready to age and then you have to wait to get xp for your 5 jan card

  • koprulu ali? (or did i see wrong)

    like koprulu sector in starcraft.

    omg ottomans in space!

  • :P

    Well in the game it gives automatic name from the actual region, so koprulu ali would be a name from Turkey :P But i didn't know that there was a such a thing in another game

  • You should build more than one barracks to train your jans faster

  • unfortunately that would take up my wood supply which you might need later ( like houses, town centers, or more barracks)in a really advance battle.

  • Thats why you make sure theres no advanced battle later. Finish him off right off the start. And if your worried about wood, theres cards or more settlers.

  • true that works with luitenents and down....but when u get really high you can't finish them quickly since they'll try to be one step ahead...unless you got a really super army...so what time zone are you in?

  • Why did you leave?

    I live in Michigan.

    I hate people who know they are going to lose but keep running with 1 settler so you have to chase them and wait till you get spies sometimes..pisses me off

  • sister was on youtube, had to actually had to turn off the comp to get her off the comp

  • lol oh. ok im done for the night on AOE but tomorrow well 1v1 and 2v2.

  • ok if i don't have too much homework

  • agreed, 1 barrack is enough for an otto rush

  • how do u guys lvl ur civilizatoins so quick

  • what do u mean by lvl? as in HC level its because i've been playing for a while and i have done plantation xp games which you build plantations with an enemy then destroy them so you both get xp.

  • how u pick 5 janissary at 1 click ?

    i do like 1 ,2 ,3,4,5 then 1.2.3.4.5 ?

  • i click the icon 5 times since 5's the build limit at one time, except if your japan then it can be 10. Sorry if I didn't answer your question correctly ( I don't know if i did in the first place but hopefully i did)

  • hold down shift then click jannissary once, or be a smart person about it, and hotkey everything, then press shift then the hotkey for jannissary, or be even smarter about it and don't play the ottos :P

  • one comment: don't be hating on the ottos :P

    Jk

  • sry i don't mean to be that mean to the ottomans, but they really require no skill to play cause you get villagers for free, but this also impedes their economy making them relatively terrible unless you make abus guns....its better to be a civ that an boom tho :P

  • kk we establish that ottomans don't take skill but we need to think of the civs that do require skill...ill start a list and see if we can come up with them:

    Skill Civs: Chinese, Spanish, Portugal, German?, Souix, Iro, Aztec, and thats all i can think of. If you can think of more or if you disagree reply to this post please ^_^

  • If you want five Jans or what ever unit try shift Click on the unit at once it works really well

  • woah rofl i never realized how bad this is until now....firstly in age 1, all villagers should gather food...(except while aging). Seconldy, build a mosque instead of a tp because both supply exp (1.01) then get the villagers train faster upgrade. Thirdly, shoot hunts back towards tc so you don't get raided in colonial. Fourthly, enable all minimized user interface options they are very useful. Finally, jannissaries are terrible; make abus, the only good unit ottos have till spahi.

  • this is a reg. aoe rush, did i forget to mention that so mosques are still 250 wood and they don't xp which is why i didn't build a mosque, second yes this vid is old and i have learned much, like shooting dear towards tc, janisaries are reg. units although i do suggest hussars and abus, and third age send spahi cards and don't forget MAMALUKES =P

    this rush won't work without the gold gathering cuz sometimes it might get scarce.

  • ur playing tad in this aren't you? and if your ottos in reg aoe you should shoot yourelf (y?) because they don't have a light infantry unit, and can be hit and run by all light infantry, rendering them as useless as pikemen vs other units. After the jannissary rush fails vs any light infantry, ottos fall way behind in economy. Only noobs and british could possibly fall victim to this rush, unless you managed to get a decent number of abus to back it up

  • i play TAD on this but i use Reg.aoe decks, and the thing is u take chances with ottomans ( i love taking chances) you can make jans with hussars also, or just plain hussars when u vs dutch cuz they make skirms :P

    i'm starting to think arguing will solve this but it probably won't =( so we should make a vid or sometin sometime so that way we can prove your/my point?

    (btw this is sorta a noob rush, i admit that, which is why i use a different one when i play experts.)

  • you used this vs me and my friend.....

  • sorry bout that =(

    Want me to show you another one then =D ?

  • Hey retro i got my 2nd lieut back :P Its very easy to win in quicksearch.........anyways, could u plz reply with information as to how u uploaded this. I want to upload some games i've played for my clan to learn from.

    Ps. Japan OP ;)

  • on TAD!?!?! I've waited an hour on that and i get no one to face =(

    kk google hypercam, download it, use it, window mode the game, and select the area, and record. however it will get laggy, so i don't recommend you record while your playing online, but "record" game option in the game, and then go to your "recorded games" and record off of that, however hypercam will only record 10 min.

  • hypercam doesn't work too well.... what frame rate would you suggest??

  • 10 is the usual and key frame every 100 frames.

  • hmm k ill try thanks

  • Mayb next time,you can teach me some valuable hints and tips. Can't win those online players though,be it rushing or no rush.

  • kk like i said to cauli, tell me your username, add Retro2 to your friendlist, take my advice and you'll be ready =)

    What time would u like to meet? btw i'm Mountain time so we're the same as Pacific.

  • whoa i am a noob at this game so that seemed real simple...is it? i can beat moderate cpu easy but if i do online i am always trashed by some expert, plz help

  • tell me your username, add Retro2 to your friendlists, don't be incompetent and disobey if i give you some expert advice, and you'll be ready for the online world =)

    And please tell me what time you would like to play.

  • Why British is not a civilisation to be played against?

  • they sometimes counter THIS rush, but if your a good ottoman player your can eventually beat the british

  • Hey retro, dippsuperior here :D

  • hey dipp =D

  • Whats song is this?

  • mabinogi op remix

  • hey retro; i see that your a master sargent now Way to go!. Moo and i are 300th in the ladders last i checked, but we keep losing to the first people. They are both terrible but play well as a team, and as you saw moo and i did 2 1v1 strats rather than a team one. We're working on it tho :P. If you ever want to 1v1... whisper me ;) (i always like a challenge)

  • kk i'm up for a 1v1 whenever :P

    Hopefully you'll get to the top 100 btw

  • lol i beat u :D

  • remember that was 2v2 silly :P

    now test me at 1v1 and its a whole different story XD

    but yeah i do admit that Fischious beat me at 2v2....Indians are very OP :P i had trouble with those sepoys you know...btw are you doing good in the 2v2 ladders?

  • **how are you doing in the 2v2 ladders***?

  • well ya i guess you're right i spent most of my time killing your ally...but i was japan :P (yes im japan lamer sometimes) As for the 2v2 ladders, we're 300something and like 11-1 or something...haven't gone on eso for a while :S

  • hmm jans are slow moving so i usually build the barracks close range to the enemy... it gets ur units in their quicker + once u ship ur hussars out u can move ur jans in whilst they are running down... the earlier u catch them the better!

  • bad side of that is if they see ur barracks while ur barely building them odds are they'll try to take over them :P I don't like FB (foward bases) i'd rather fight on home turf cuz they waste their army while i'm buliding army at same time. but i like the hussar idea though =D. very good feedback.

  • looool

    noob

  • oddly this comment amuses me since when ppl call me noob they back it up with proof :P

    i really don't think much of this comment though

  • i could back it up... your only a sargent after all. Regardless of your rank the fact you play ottos means you don't have the skill to play another civ that requires miro in age 1, and doesn't suck after the 2nd age (unless FI) I know we don't hate eachother retro but srsly i think calling u a noob is appropriate in this situation as you are laming ottomans, who really don't take skill to play :P

  • umm i also play spanish in rush and win with mykai, but then again thats a turtle boom :P

    i play ports in rush, germans i can't really rush that well, french i can't rush.so the non lamer civs that can rush are spanish,ports, souix, iros, but thnx for feedback and i know this is noob tactic advance tactics are used for majors who rush with ottomans who i consider noobs too :P maybe i should post a vid trying to fight a major who lames in ottoman too that way i can become the greatest lamer jk

  • rushing with ports? make a vid of that kind plz