That speed6 is deffinently not stock. I have a new TMIC, CAI, corksport turboback exhaust and a tune. I'm pushing 350awhp and the best time my car ever got at the track was a 14.8 at 95mph. That was with a professional to.
@Nuch3412 14.8?? not trying to bash on u or anything but thats not gud. i ran 14.6 on a stock 08 ms3 with only a SU rear engine mount sure anchors n running vta hks bov n i hav 200+ extra lbs due to my system. an ms6 that i saw not stock was runing mid 12's n anothr ms3 that i ran againt ran 14.1 but it had some bolt ons. u should b able to easily run high 13's cuz u hav awd i spin on 1st n 2nd lol
@Nuch3412 You're either lying or you don't know how to launch the car properly, I'm going to say both. Go to MazdaspeedForums. Many people, have pulled LOW 14s and high 13s BONE STOCK... myself included has run a 13.8 stock. 350whp is easily running mid-low 13s. You need driver mod.
LOLOLOL @ 14.8 1/4 mile in a Mazdaspeed6. That is just HORRIBLE....
hey guys your opinion is greatly needed and appreciated. now, i'm finally ready to graduate from college and i have a baby on the way and need a more practical car. sadly i will have to trade in my baby, my honda s2000. it's between altima se-r and a mazdaspeed 6. please provide valid points for either. actual owners opinions are preffered. thank you very much.
@19danflo speed6 hands down. they are very nice inside and out and have an incredible amount of room. also if in the future you wanted to modify it and make it a little quicker it would not be hard to do. i work at a mazda dealer in illinois and i must say (all though there was not nearly as many speed6's made/sold as our other models) i dont see to many of them through our shop complaining with problems. also a buddy of mine has one putting down over 300whp and has yet to have a problem with it
I'm going to have to side with 01Z06guy over 12389h.
One simply cannot claim to be into motorsports if he/she doesn't know Corvette's heritage. This is coming from an RX-8 and Speed6 owner.
I'd rather own a ZR-1 than a R35 any day. Any idiot can drive an R35 fast. Actually the C6 that I'd really like is the Grand Sport. It is so choice to drive even though it isn't the fastest.
@dynamho I do agree with ZR-1 over R35, but I'd actually rather not have either. I think mainly b/c the Corvette is made in my town, and around here they're a dime a dozen. Ver nice cars, yes... but extremely common.
I'd much rather have a Porche 911 GT3RS. Track car for the road all the way! :)
u know...u talk down to Japanese cars yet i bet there are plenty of euro cars that are more than happy to slap a corvette in the face. japanese arent know for their high horsepower rockets but their very quik and effecient smaller cars. how ever europe is a different story luxery and performance(not always a straight line performance)
What are you blathering about? Are there gazillion dollar European super exotics faster than Corvettes? Of course. Are there European cars in the same price range as Corvettes that beat them at the race track? No. What does that have to do with anything anyway?
@01Z06guy im just saying to the winy fucks on youtube, dont compare these two they arent in the same league, these two just happened to get paired up at the track
Willow Springs ZR1= 1:23.87 Z06 Carbon= 1:24.28 GT-R= 1:25.09 VIR ZR1= 2:51.8 Z06 Carbon= 2:53.5 GT-R= 2:55.6 Leguna Seca ZR1= 1:35.8 Z06 Carbon= 1:37.4 GT-R= 1:40.45 Clearly, the only people with blinders would be anyone stupid enough to think the 2012 GT-R will beat a ZR1.
@01Z06guy The 2012 GTR did a 7:24 on the Nurburgring to the Z06's 7:26 as stated on fastest laps and other referenced sites. Even Corvetteforum as I said which I can provide the link for you. So you are the one wearing the blinders my friend.
Automatic cars at the drag strip FTFL. Thats why the vette ran a 13.4. He needs a high stall torque converter. $1000 In bolt on and that MS6 would have owned that vette lol.
I'm a car nut so I'd obviously love the corvette but in the real world I'm married with 2 kids. Also I'm a driving instructor so have my own boring Peugeot work car. So it's a hell of a lot easier to convince my mrs to get a "sensible" 2nd hand Mazda for £5k. Little does she know that it does 0-60 in 5.8secs and I get plenty of fun at the weekends in it!
mazda speed 6s are fast as fuck (i got one), but in a straight line im sure that vette could beat it. the vette is a different class though and really shouldnt be compared to a mazda 6
I see a lot of people here that talk about the Mazdaspeed6 not having a good launch, or that it could have been better, but in the driver's defense it isn't as easy to launch hard a manual, AWD car as it would be say, a manual 2WD car. If done wrong it could fry the clutch. He wasn't that bad actually. Respect. Mazdaspeed6 is one HELL of a rocket considering it comes from a brand with little experience in performance AWD compared to the likes of Subaru or Mitsubishi.
@sarawing Not to be a dick but its not 4WD its AWD the difference is that with 4 wheel you can switch between 4WD and RWD with AWD its always all four wheels
The Speed 6 will never come close to he Vette stock if the Vette is driven right. 13.4 is .2 seconds faster than the SS Cobalt runs on a good day (turbo not s/c). That's an awesome time for the Mazdaspeed 6 though and the driver clearly knows how to drive. The Speed 6 is an awesome car and props to Mazda for building a sweet AWD car despite not being the most experienced with that drivetrain.
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What a bunch of looser ricers. Its rice burner civics like these that give the whole motorsport comunity a bad name. And theyre racing on our public streets!! Go to to drag strip if you want to race. Idiots like these guys should be stoned to death... 1 for being idiot and racing on a public street and 2 for owning suchh slow riced out with fart can exhaust and CAI only and thinking theyre fast..
Edgarwinter, you might want to get your eyes checked before you write something on here.
I don't know if you were paying attention but the car that you assume is a Honda civic is actually a Mazda speed 6. At the time the car was built mazda was owned/built by ford motor company so there fore it wasn't 1. a rice burner 2, a Honda civic.
Also...If you notice they aren't on the street like your post says. They are actually at a quarter mile track. Look at the staging lights and signs.
Um they are racing on a dragstrip. The car isn't a civic, it doesn't have aftermarket exhaust, and it isn't loaded up with gewgaws, hence it isn't a ricer. It's a sleeper. And that car is fast, a lot faster than the numbers suggest.
Fanadical Japan is # 1 building Pocket Rockets. But if there is a car I respect from Chevy is a Corvette. Just think about this for a moment in a Corvette you will get twice as much tickets than in a Miata because vettes are built for speed and are high speed cars They are a Targets for cops, Miatas are not a Vette hits 80 MPH in the Blink of an eye 2nd gear maybe? A Miata needs 4th gear to hit such speed so you can beat the hell out of a Miata have fun with it and still don't get in trouble.
i totally agree with you that vettes can get to higher speeds but on the other hand rice burners are fast...but only to 0-60 and at higher speeds the vette would have wasted it.
i had a subaru leagacy gt spec b and i raced a camaro ss all the way up to 140 and it never passed me. so no a corvette is not necessarily faster at high speeds than a "rice burner".
Actually, if looked up the spec sheets; 13.8 at 1/4 mile at 104--320 horses and 330 lb.-ft. at the wheels for the SS. The C5 saw 340hp and 350 lbs. torque.1/4 mile 13.2@109 mph .3300lbs for the C5 and 3400 for the camaro. Yes there is a difference, just not much. Since the vette in this video is a standard C5, thats the only reference that should be considered here. Not a Z06 or a C6Yes I am special and thanks for noticing. Also, i found that i could easily keep up with a C5 upto around 90-100.
the only way your car is keeping up with a corvette is if the vette was stock, and your car was not... either way it doesnt matter because i would smoke your little subaru
he is special how are u comparing a camaro to a vette and a speed 6 all three of them are very different cars besides the speed 6 is awd compared to rwd samething with your subaru so u have better traction and you dont burn out as easy as a rwd you moron
That was the point I was attempting to make. Its amazing how slow, over reactive and immature the majority of people are that repond and youtube. THATS THE POINT I WAS MAKING. That a mid size sedan has comparitve performance to both resonably powerful cars. Moron.
Just to tell you a little something. I have owned lots of cars that I have taken apart, put back together and modify over the last 15 years. I know every aspect of every vehicle that you will ever know of and drive so I don't need to be called a moron. GROW UP. Time to be a big boy now and act like a man.
@calimica1979 0.6 sec on a 1/4 mile is a HUGE difference. But i do agree just because the car is a "rice burner" which i dont even see what the problem is doesnt mean its worse at high speed. anyway if you want to rip on the car just because its a japanese tuner think about this put most of these quicker "rice burners" around a track with some curves and see who comes out on top. i DO like american cars but the american car is gonna get smoked were not the greatest at track performence
But now that I read this comment of yours, "a track with some curves and see who comes out on top...the american car is gonna get smoked," you need to be informed that the AMERICAN Corvette will beat every Japanese sports car at the race track short of the GTR and LF-A which, of course, will get beaten by the ZR1. Yes, the EVO, STi, S2000, 370Z, etc. will all lose to a base Corvette. By your words, they will all, "get smoked" by an American car.
That's nice. So one guy ran a slow time in a C5 vert once. Who cares? What does that matter? Fact is a Speed6 is a 14 second car stock and a base C5 is a 13.5 second car stock.
@01Z06guy I don't really care what this video means. You just sound like a hater because you come on here telling people that their cars here suck because a ZR1 can beat them and come around with this attitude that imports are garbage. How about you get away from this attitude of thinking you are on the top of the world because you have a C5 Z06. I own a C5 Z06 and have friends who own all sorts of shit but you don't see me going on here telling people their cars suck.
@01Z06guy I made that comment because I see you going on every video of a Corvette vs a Japanese import and just straight up knocking them and calling people ricers and idiots because they don't agree with you. The C6 Corvette (base/grand sport/Z06/ZR1) is not the end all be all car, bottom line. It is one of the best performance bargains hands down yes but it is not the fastest nor the most versatile car on market.
@01Z06guy I brought that up because you its a simple vid showing a C5 race an MS6 at the drag strip and you turn this into a Japanese Import vs Corvette argument like you do in any video. It gets so stupid its horrible. You sir are a Ricer.
Once again, you are full of shit. I didn't turn this thread into anything. Every single one of my posts here has been correcting people's bullshit with FACTS. Why don't you spend the next four or five hours reading all the comments back to the first one I made here and see for yourself. No, just take my comments out of context as if they are not replies to anything.
@01Z06guy I did prove my point and correct you as there are already numbers on the GT-R. And why should I apologize to you. You're just a douchebag who thinks your car is the end all be all car.
You can't read, can you? Do you think the 2012 GT-R will be faster on the race track than the ZR1 or not? If you think Nissan's Nurburgring time of their preproduction car is proof, than you must also think it's proof the GTR is faster than an Enzo. Do you think it's faster than an Enzo?
@01Z06guy Yes I do think it is faster than the Enzo around the track. The GT-R already beat numerous cars with better power to weight ratios that were much more expensive on all of its tests around the Nurburgring and numerous other courses. Just because the GT-R will trap lower than the Enzo in the 1/4 mile doesn't mean its a faster car around a track. Look at the R33 GT-R. It got an 8:01 around the ring with 280hp. There are cars with twice that power and ligther that can't beat that time.
@01Z06guy Please read your messages and Yes it is faster than the Enzo because it got a better time around the ring than the Enzo did. Numbers don't lie.
Now that I know just how unbelievably ignorant you are about track performance, I noticed you have no track videos. So what do you use your cars for, street racing or just posing?
@01Z06guy I don't need to post videos from the track. I run my Mazda and my 02 Z06 at Nashville super Speedway if you are interested. Their not as fast as your super invicible stock 01 Z06 lol.
I see. So you have a camera to post pointless boring videos of your cars, but you don't post any of the roadcourse racing you do. Sure, I believe that just like I believe a GT-R is faster than an Enzo. Props to Nissan spending the millions of dollars to be able to claim such times so fools like you will think it means their car is faster than every other car that has ever been tested there.
Thanks for once again showing me you are clueless and can't read and just a hater falsely telling me what I think. By the way, you like looking at penises on the internet. Hey, I said it about you, so it must be true,
I find it hilarious you read me telling off some ricer on youtube and you get this ignorant, false assumption about what I think. I'll tell you what, you quote where I said imports are garbage or inferred I am on the top of the world and I'll apologize. If you can't find that quote in the thousands of youtube comments I've made, you apologize to me for being a douche with a reading comprehension problem. Deal?
In head to head testing which has been done several times, the ZR1 always beats the GT-R. Only a retard or a ricer would take a second at nurburgring as meaning anything because Nissan has tried thousands of laps for years to get a better time. Same day same driver the ZR1 will always win because it's faster. Are you a retard or a ricer?
@01Z06guy I'm talking about the 2012 GT-R. There was no head to head testing between the cars of that specific model year. You just love using the term ricer a lot really. The 2012 model of the GT-R has more hp, more torque, less weight, better aero. Look it up the shit is all over corvetteforum and the internet. Take your fucking blinders off and get with the program. They didn't keep the car the same so they got better results. The ZR1 is not invincible to imports.
What kind of retard tries to compare a future car that you can't buy, isn't in production, and specs haven't even been released yet? How pathetic. Then to try to say that having lighter wheels and a different front bumper is going to make it faster than a ZR1 is downright laughable. The GT-R can't even keep up with the Z06 carbon, let alone the ZR1. If you think the minimal changes to the 2012 model will make it faster than a ZR1, you're a straight up retard.
@01Z06guy Its not just a different bumper and lighter tires retard. I posted a fact which is true and you have yet to refute it. The 2012 GTR did get a faster pass on the nurburgring than the ZR1. The car has more HP, more Torque, less weight and better aero. Thats a lot more than just a different bumper and tires. And there you go there is a Japanese import that is faster than the ZR1 on the nurburgring. Future car or not it was tested and confirmed.
No retard. It's not faster. First of all, it's not even in production, so the time is not from a production car. Second, if you think that time makes it a faster car than a ZR1, then you also must think it's faster than an Enzo. Do you think it's faster than an Enzo? Why don't you tell me how much more power it will have in the future when it's made? Can't? That's because nobody knows. It supposedly has a bigger intake tube. Whoopie. Why are we speculating about future cars?
@01Z06guy I never said faster outright i said faster around a track. The car is gonna make 540-560 at the crank which is a marked improvement over the old. Also they are getting relased this year so we will know sooner than later.
I noticed you failed to find a single quote of mine doing what you say I do and instead you just repeated your reading comprehension failure, so where is your apology?
"I never said faster outright i said faster around a track"
So you really think the 2012 GT-R will be faster around a road course head to head with the same drivers than a ZR1? You are really that stupid? You think it's going to pick up 4 seconds at VIR and 5 seconds at Leguna Seca? Please tell me you really are that stupid.
@01Z06guy You're talking like the 2012 GTR is the same exact thing as the 2009 GT-R when Nissan obviously made numerous changes all major. As I said 5 or 6 times it already got a better ring time than the ZR1 did. What you are saying is about as ignorant as the Camaro fanboys saying that the new 5.0 wasn't going to outperform the new Camaro when the Mustang did. The proposed changes will make vast improvements.
Why can't you answer simple questions? And no, none of the changes to the GT-R are major. None of them. All extremely tiny. Even if you take, "3% more efficient" to mean more powerful, which is wishful thinking, that means it will be rated at 494hp. A whopping 14hp. Big deal. About what you'd expect from a bigger intake tube. Now answer the questions about if you think it will be 5 seconds faster at Leguna Seca and whether you think it's faster than an Enzo.
@01Z06guy Why don't you look at the article from Nagtroc . org where Nissan already proposed the power to be rated at 530hp and 488 ft lbs. There is already a video showing the new 2012 GTR getting a 0-60 of 2.9 seconds. That my friend is a big change.
@01Z06guy Why don't you actually read the thread and article with all of the information thats confirmed. HP/TQ numbers, confirmed. 7:24 Nurburgring time confirmed. 2.9 second 0-60 confirmed. Anything else?
Yeah, let me know when Nissan actually produces a 2012 GT-R, releases it's official specs, and it's tested head to head with other cars. Until then, bragging about a "proposed" car because you hope it's faster than a Corvette makes you sound like a ricer.
@01Z06guy Why? The GT-R is faster than all the Corvettes in its price range. And the 2012 GT was tested by nissan and they did in fact do a 7:24 at the nurburgring. If you have proof to say otherwise you have nothing to refute the claim so the 2012 GT-R is in fact faster than the GT-R. Also most of the cars you compare to the corvette's performance are not even in the same price range or class. The Evo, STi, RX8, 370Z, MS3 are much less and not competition for the base Corvette nor meant to be.
LOL Now it's price range? Where did that come from? You are all over the map. Let me repeat the FACT that has you so pissed off.
The ZR1 is faster at the race track than any Japanese production car ever made. That's a fact. Maybe someday, some future Japanese car will be faster. Today is not that day. And furthermore, when Nissan actually does produce a 2012 model GT-R, it will still be slower than the old ZR1. It has no chance of making up the 3-5 seconds it's behind.
@01Z06guy The 2012 GT-R already beat the ZR1 by 2 seconds so why should they lie. Its all over fastestlaps as well which I know you frequent so why try to make yourself feel better by going back to the ZR1. Face it the ZR1 got bettered by a cheaper car, it happens and you have nothing to back up your claim that the 2012 GT-R is slower. Lets also mention that the record was done on a moist course.
@01Z06guy And as for this 3-5 seconds where the fuck are you getting this shit? The ZR-1 did a 7:26 around the ring. the 2012 GT-R did a 7:24. If the ZR1 was 5 seconds faster that would mean its 1 second slower than the GT2 RS the current Ring record holder.
I posted the lap times from Willow Springs, Leguna Seca, and VIR already. Go back and actually read them this time. Even the Z06 Carbon bitch slaps the GT-R on all three tracks. These are times by independent reviewers and often the same day with the same drivers. Those are fair comparisons of actual production cars. People who have a clue absolutely do not take a couple seconds between claimed times from preproduction cars to mean anything. But you do. That says it all.
Again you bring up cost. Why? That's nothing but an excuse because you don't like the FACTS I posted. Where in my statement about the ZR1 being faster than any Japanese production car ever made does it say anything about price? The ZR1 is faster than any Japanese production car ever made cheaper OR more expensive. It's doesn't matter and has nothing to do with price.
You don't have to guess. You can just go look at the lap times from when they were compared head to head on multiple tracks and the ZR1 won by heavy margins every time. You can see for yourself at fastestlaps(dot)com.
In head to head testing the ZR-1 won by over second per lap. On a different day driven by Randy Pobst the '11 GTR only edged out the Z06 Carbon by .18 seconds. Less than two tenths of a second. You should know very well the ZR1 would have won as usual if it were tested with them as the ZR1 is clearly faster than the Z06. They were never tested head to head at nurburgring, but if they were, the ZR1 would win just like it does every single time they are tested head to head everywhere else.
@01Z06guy The GT-R has a lot less horsepower than the ZR1 and also weighs a lot more. This is why the GT-R is more impressive. Of course, you would expect the ZR1 to be slightly faster around most circuits, but for a road and track car I would still prefer a GT-R (R32 to R35) over the ZR1 any day.
That's nice. I honestly don't care what you would prefer. Being light and powerful is impressive to most people. If a car being heavy impresses you, you can always put some lead bricks in the trunk to make up for all that unimpressive carbon fiber, titanium, and magnesuim in the Corvette and make it more impressive.
You can say you would rather have an R32 GTR than a new ZR1 because it's an opinion. It's a silly, nutty opinion just like somebody who says they'd rather have a C4 Corvette than a 2012 GTR. But people are allowed to have dumb opinions. Now if you were a person who had actually driven both cars, and you were actually given the choice in real life, you would change your mind in a heart beat. But saying it online when it doesn't matter probably makes you feel cool somehow.
@01Z06guy I know a person who owns a corvette. They drink fuel, breakdown and are unforgiving at the limit. Put as much money into a R32 and there isn't a Corvette that will touch it on the road or the track. I didn't say the weight of the GT-R impresses me, I said for its specifications it's very impressive performance wise.
Modern Corvettes get much better fuel economy that a GTR. My Z06's window sticker says 19 city/ 28 highway. I have a video right here on youtube showing I average over 26mpg. No GTR can do that. I also have countless videos on me on the track. The last time at the track the track workers radioed about talking to me about my drifting. Am I the greatest driver in the world, or are you as ignorant about the handling limits of the Corvette as you are about it's gas mileage?
"Put as much money into a R32 and there isn't a Corvette that will touch it on the road or the track"
The GTR is just a car. It's not the magical machine ricers think it is. This statement of yours that I quoted is so wrong and off base, only a ricer would believe it. I've seen a R-34 Spec V on Firebird Main in Phoenix. It's lap times were slower than mine which is no suprise since the C5Z06 is faster than all GTRs before the R35 which is WAY WAY faster than all GTRs before it.
@01Z06guy Remember the GT-Rs before the R35 were limited to 276bhp. The C5 Z06 is no where near the performance of a Nismo tuned R34, which was put into production at around the same time. What's so wrong about my statement? It's every hillbilly who overrates Corvettes, what has the Corvette done compared to the GT-R in the world of Motor sport? In this video a tuned Corvette was having problems with a stock Mazdaspeed6, and the MS6 isn't even made for a drag strip.
"C5 Z06 is no where near the performance of a Nismo tuned R34"
Z-tuned cars are not production cars. Now you are comparing a tuner car to a factory stock car. How silly. And if you want to go down that road, a Lingenfelter can bitch slap a Z-tune. You can buy over 1000hp in either car. It's a retarded argument.
@01Z06guy The Z-tune was basically Nissan showing us what they could have done for the R34 if they didn't have a 276 bhp limit. Fact is GT-Rs have been and will always be more refined machines than Corvettes.
"what has the Corvette done compared to the GT-R in the world of Motor sport? "
Are you kidding me? Really? The Corvette has done far, far more than the GTR in motorsports. I can't go down such an endless list so lets go to the pinnacle of sports car racing. LeMans. Six GT1 class LeMans victories. 8 ALMS GT1 chamionships.
@01Z06guy They even had to ban the R32 GT-R in Australia, it never lost a race even though it was the heaviest car there. The only competitors for GT-Rs have been from Porsche. The technology in GT-Rs are at a different level to Corvettes. The Corvette has never had a bigger influence than the GT-R in motor sport or on the road.
You are just spewing the same ignorant crap that has been spewed for years. Banned in Australia? Who the fuck cares? Lots of cars have been banned from lots of race series. The Viper was banned from LeMans. An important race organization that matters. The GTR was not banned from LeMans. It was simply too slow to compete. The Corvette has ALWAYS had a bigger influence in motorsports that the GTR. ALWAYS. Your ignorance of that fact makes it no less true.
@01Z06guy Whatever you say, with a name like "Z06guy" it's pretty obvious what your going to say. A Corvette was only .4 seconds faster than a stock Mazdaspeed6 on a 1/4 mile. I guess I'll know what to do if a Corvette pulls up next to me at the lights, even though it's unlikely because nobody is stupid enough to buy a Corvette anywhere in the world, excluding America.
Yeah, a base C5 vert with an auto and runflat tires is only about .5 second faster in the 1/4 mile than a Speed6. Who cares? Officially, it's about 13.5 to 14.0. Both slow. Who cares? That's the slowest corvette you can buy in the last 15 years. A base model C6 runs it in 12.5 and the fast models run it in the 10s. You will get raped by plenty of stock Corvettes.
That depends upon whatever car is worth the most because I'd sell any of the four instantly. How can you know which is the, "best" amoung four random, highly modified cars in a video? At least the ZR1 and the R35 whom's ass it kicked are supposedly from respected tuners. The other two might be cobbled together piles. Who knows? HP claims and winning street races in traffic is certianly not the deciding factors for me.
That depends upon whatever car is worth the most because I'd sell any of the four instantly. How can you know which is the, "best" amoung four random, highly modified cars in a video? At least the ZR1 and the R35 whom's ass it kicked are supposedly from respected tuners. The other two might be cobbled together piles. Who knows? HP claims and winning street races in traffic is certianly not the deciding factors for me.
Why do you think I have this username? Because that's the car I registered to post videos of. Why did I buy it? Because it's the fastest all around, modern car my $20,000 could buy at the time almost five years ago. No car from Japan was close, no car from Europe was close. For race track performance in a modern, used car it cannot be beat by anything. That's why I bought it, that's why it's my username. You poor, ignorant, Euro idiots have been deprived.
There was no real super technology in R32- R34 GTRs. They had ATTESSA AWD and turbos. So? Nothing high tech there. The Corvette also had active handling. Same thing for RWD. Did it have manufacuting technology like hydroforming and extensive use of composite materials like the Corvette? Not really, no. Did it have HUD? I don't think you understand what the words technology and refinement mean. R32-R34 GTRs are the most overrated cars of all time.
Gee, if only there was a brand new Japanese supercar costing hundreds of thousands of dollars and having a V10 engine, then surely it would be faster than a production Chevy, right? Ooops, there is one and it's slower. There goes your bitch about price.
This is fun and all, but in all seriousness, I know what happened here. You have seen my posts telling off ricers, but you didn't understand what they were replies to, so you assumed I am the same as others you have hated in the past. If I told you my honest opinion of cars, you would feel like a fool. Maybe if only you saw my Supra and MR2 videos, you would see. It doesn't matter to me. People falsely telling me what I think doesn't bother me.
"The proposed changes will make vast improvements. "
"Proposed." LOL I can't believe you are speculating and about a future car as your argument that the ZR1 isn't faster than every Japanese production car ever made. Just get over it and admit the ZR1 is faster than every Japanese production car ever made already. Yeah, and the changes to the Spec-V were more extreme and it was supposed to dominate the world. Oops, that one let the fanboys down. LOL
Of course the ZR1 isn't invincible to imports. There are lots of European production cars that are faster. There are ZERO Japanese production cars faster. Which is just what I said.
Essentially.... they're the same exact engine, so technically speaking one COULD say that. Base Corvette engine is what goes in the SS camaro. z06 corvette of course gets the higher end engine (like LS7 for z06 c6, but LS3 for base)
I don't drive fast on public roads. I only drive my 1980 corvette on a nice day. My daily driver is a 1987 VW Jetta diesel, I do about 57mpg city, so I'm pretty happy. But still I love taking my vette down to the track. I recently bought an L88 cam, I can do the 1/4 mile in 11,43s @ 112mph. By the way miamimiata, I've never been ticketed in my corvette.
I would take any Mazda over any Chevy anytime any day Mazdas are bullet proof reliable this days the same can't be said for Chevrolet cars . Sorry bow tie guys. Even a Miata can give the vette a run for it's money in a track day. LOL
You can't be serious, Chevy's NEVER die. My dad's silverado that's been sitting in a yard for 4 years started up with little work. All we had to do was pour a bit of gas into the carburetor and it started perfectly, and this truck has worked a lot in its life time. The miata might be able to turn corners but where are you going to use high speed cornering? On the highway? You'll get ticketed within seconds if you do that. So you might as well stick with 1/4mile drag racing. Don't make up facts.
Any car nowadays can make it to the 100k mile mark but mazdas do make it there easier then a cobalt would for example. Im not going to disagree with you because my 70 monte that sat for 15 years runs good enough for having 330k miles on it. I even use it as a daily driver
@papaown Yea I'm gonna have to call bs on that one. It's an automatic c5, not exactly a rocket ship. Nice time for the ms6. I think a better launch woulda had it even lower though
i wish that was true, i hate american cars for the most part, but the corvette's handling and suspension was created in Europe so it actually does handle well but i would still take the mazda haha.
There you go!! Vette has improved, but it still is a gas quenching beast. Take a half size of vette engine, throw some turbos and you end up just as good of a car as vette, that is more fun to drive, right?
Its all a matter of preference. I own a 1980 corvette, I have an 454 with 2 holly 750's, edelbrock heads, cast aluminum pistons and pushrod, M22 close ratio gear box. I spent 7,000$ on the car and about 2,000 on the engine. Drag racing is my hobby. (obviously :P). My idea of "fun to drive" is being able to go fast, while others like small convertible sport cars (MX-5, triumph, etc)
Do I think my car is the best? I do somewhat, 578bhp & 723lbs/ft, not bad for 9k. You can do alot with an RX7 too:)
You're a dumbass if you think the vette is a "gas quenching beast" my dad got 30.2mpg highway in his 03 z06 with just a k&n cold air intake and borla catback, most turbo 4's and 6 cylinders don't even get that.
@papaown It's true. The 6spd is excellent for cruising and final drive rear end gearing compliments the mileage as well. The TQ makes up for the low final drive ratio anyway.
I mean I have madd respect for most tuners but why is it that whenever American Muscle kicks ass on the 1/4 every turner goes to the corners bit. Actually if both cars had good drivers the Vette would still win. Its comparable to saying the Mazda would own a Viper it's simply not true. The Vette has better handling then most tuners give it credit for. Speed and the wide wheel base still kill. Now a Shelby would get its ass kicked on the corners by both cars and I'm a Mustang guy.
That speed6 is deffinently not stock. I have a new TMIC, CAI, corksport turboback exhaust and a tune. I'm pushing 350awhp and the best time my car ever got at the track was a 14.8 at 95mph. That was with a professional to.
Nuch3412 5 months ago
@Nuch3412 14.8?? not trying to bash on u or anything but thats not gud. i ran 14.6 on a stock 08 ms3 with only a SU rear engine mount sure anchors n running vta hks bov n i hav 200+ extra lbs due to my system. an ms6 that i saw not stock was runing mid 12's n anothr ms3 that i ran againt ran 14.1 but it had some bolt ons. u should b able to easily run high 13's cuz u hav awd i spin on 1st n 2nd lol
tsupra16 4 months ago
@Nuch3412 You're either lying or you don't know how to launch the car properly, I'm going to say both. Go to MazdaspeedForums. Many people, have pulled LOW 14s and high 13s BONE STOCK... myself included has run a 13.8 stock. 350whp is easily running mid-low 13s. You need driver mod.
LOLOLOL @ 14.8 1/4 mile in a Mazdaspeed6. That is just HORRIBLE....
bi0nicEar 2 months ago
@Nuch3412 bullshit, you dont make 350AWHP with just that.... and then make that horrible run.
foofii2006 6 days ago
hey guys your opinion is greatly needed and appreciated. now, i'm finally ready to graduate from college and i have a baby on the way and need a more practical car. sadly i will have to trade in my baby, my honda s2000. it's between altima se-r and a mazdaspeed 6. please provide valid points for either. actual owners opinions are preffered. thank you very much.
19danflo 7 months ago
@19danflo speed6 hands down. they are very nice inside and out and have an incredible amount of room. also if in the future you wanted to modify it and make it a little quicker it would not be hard to do. i work at a mazda dealer in illinois and i must say (all though there was not nearly as many speed6's made/sold as our other models) i dont see to many of them through our shop complaining with problems. also a buddy of mine has one putting down over 300whp and has yet to have a problem with it
marmas5 7 months ago
That was quite an interesting read.
I'm going to have to side with 01Z06guy over 12389h.
One simply cannot claim to be into motorsports if he/she doesn't know Corvette's heritage. This is coming from an RX-8 and Speed6 owner.
I'd rather own a ZR-1 than a R35 any day. Any idiot can drive an R35 fast. Actually the C6 that I'd really like is the Grand Sport. It is so choice to drive even though it isn't the fastest.
dynamho 8 months ago
@dynamho I do agree with ZR-1 over R35, but I'd actually rather not have either. I think mainly b/c the Corvette is made in my town, and around here they're a dime a dozen. Ver nice cars, yes... but extremely common.
I'd much rather have a Porche 911 GT3RS. Track car for the road all the way! :)
EviLMuska 7 months ago
damn I expected the vette to do better then that lol
DHREVOLUTION 11 months ago
I hate winey kids on YouTube ._. get each others email address and do it on there. No one wants to see your "facts".
ec1ipse14 11 months ago
how win !!!???? 0_0
disturbia38 11 months ago
u know...u talk down to Japanese cars yet i bet there are plenty of euro cars that are more than happy to slap a corvette in the face. japanese arent know for their high horsepower rockets but their very quik and effecient smaller cars. how ever europe is a different story luxery and performance(not always a straight line performance)
carrionpvp 1 year ago
@carrionpvp
What are you blathering about? Are there gazillion dollar European super exotics faster than Corvettes? Of course. Are there European cars in the same price range as Corvettes that beat them at the race track? No. What does that have to do with anything anyway?
01Z06guy 11 months ago
@01Z06guy im just saying to the winy fucks on youtube, dont compare these two they arent in the same league, these two just happened to get paired up at the track
carrionpvp 10 months ago
do neither of them know how to leave the light? sounded like they were both at idle when they took off
plumbicblimp 1 year ago
@plumbicblimp
I was thinking that too
Jamesvk679 11 months ago
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy The 2012 GTR did a 7:24 on the Nurburgring to the Z06's 7:26 as stated on fastest laps and other referenced sites. Even Corvetteforum as I said which I can provide the link for you. So you are the one wearing the blinders my friend.
kageryu311 1 year ago
It's funny to read people nitpick the MS6 driver's launch when the guy turned a faster 1/4 time than any car magazine ever did.
DroverChicago 1 year ago
Automatic cars at the drag strip FTFL. Thats why the vette ran a 13.4. He needs a high stall torque converter. $1000 In bolt on and that MS6 would have owned that vette lol.
SeigiSama 1 year ago
whats up wit da camera refusing the vettes 1/4 mile time???? dats gay
QUIETBOY267 1 year ago
Horrible start-up for the MAZDASPEED 6. Driver needs to be slapped.
Hinatadog 1 year ago
Loser does not pay even a normal clip
joptvajumats 1 year ago
I'm a car nut so I'd obviously love the corvette but in the real world I'm married with 2 kids. Also I'm a driving instructor so have my own boring Peugeot work car. So it's a hell of a lot easier to convince my mrs to get a "sensible" 2nd hand Mazda for £5k. Little does she know that it does 0-60 in 5.8secs and I get plenty of fun at the weekends in it!
erinandnadia 1 year ago
It's nice that no one here knows anything about either of these cars. :D
StinkzMehaff 1 year ago
10/10 for camera guy
JackPLflashpoint 1 year ago
mazda speed 6s are fast as fuck (i got one), but in a straight line im sure that vette could beat it. the vette is a different class though and really shouldnt be compared to a mazda 6
Bongwater123 1 year ago
I never thought those mazdaspeeds were that fast!
vfIskullangel 1 year ago
sounds like a automatic vette
joshtard1111 1 year ago
that Vette driver has no business on a track,... scrub a dub dub
TheGdollar 1 year ago
I see a lot of people here that talk about the Mazdaspeed6 not having a good launch, or that it could have been better, but in the driver's defense it isn't as easy to launch hard a manual, AWD car as it would be say, a manual 2WD car. If done wrong it could fry the clutch. He wasn't that bad actually. Respect. Mazdaspeed6 is one HELL of a rocket considering it comes from a brand with little experience in performance AWD compared to the likes of Subaru or Mitsubishi.
GuardianAngel4281 1 year ago
Sounded to me like it wasn't a Z06 probably the lesser C6 i believe and automatic, only 300hp, may be wrong though...
Stooge1020 1 year ago
Who ran the 5.9 lol
redwaller555 1 year ago
Corvettes gotta be automatic by the sounds of it. what a bitch.
DanmanT15 1 year ago
madza is the gayest car company ever
scatrenolds 1 year ago
@scatrenolds U just suck man.
shalecky 1 year ago
@scatrenolds
Oh yeah, what do you drive big man? You didn't even spell mazda correctly.
adogg619 1 year ago
Pretty cool they used the vette as a reference point. Just to show how good it is. I'm just now learning about the mazdaspeed cars
stealthcorvette 1 year ago
is the speed 6 and speed 3 the same care except awd and body
jkachur777 1 year ago
@jkachur777 They have another turbo too as i heard
shalecky 1 year ago
@jkachur777 Speed 6 is 4WD, speed is FWD same engine
sarawing 1 year ago
@sarawing Not to be a dick but its not 4WD its AWD the difference is that with 4 wheel you can switch between 4WD and RWD with AWD its always all four wheels
M3X1CAN57AR1NGFR0G 1 year ago
I have a MS6 and so it's fun to come on here and find any cool footage. Anyone have any recommended other sites or clips?
MyChocolateATM 1 year ago
love the speed 6.
hppyadam 1 year ago
The Speed 6 will never come close to he Vette stock if the Vette is driven right. 13.4 is .2 seconds faster than the SS Cobalt runs on a good day (turbo not s/c). That's an awesome time for the Mazdaspeed 6 though and the driver clearly knows how to drive. The Speed 6 is an awesome car and props to Mazda for building a sweet AWD car despite not being the most experienced with that drivetrain.
8BALT 1 year ago
lmao rob ive forgot more about corvettes than you will ever know
bigwightboi 1 year ago
camera guy sucks.
great drag though.
Danspeed3 1 year ago
98mph lol, nice launch that Vette will pull train lengths on the big end though.
svt11111 1 year ago
Filmuot išmok ! translate to lithuanian language..
joptvajumats 1 year ago
@joptvajumats film paid?
eldom20 1 year ago
wow, that mazda 6 has a load of torque! the bumper almost dragged on the ground lol.
Electra72 2 years ago
Question. Is the Mazda stock?
DEConnoisseur 2 years ago
Yes, it is.
Juizzzzy 2 years ago
Wow. I was thinking of getting a B6 S4 for my next car but that makes this a seriously viable alternative.
DEConnoisseur 2 years ago
i just bought an ms6 about a week ago and ive never been happier. ms6 are the shit!!
cabanaboy2486 2 years ago
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What a bunch of looser ricers. Its rice burner civics like these that give the whole motorsport comunity a bad name. And theyre racing on our public streets!! Go to to drag strip if you want to race. Idiots like these guys should be stoned to death... 1 for being idiot and racing on a public street and 2 for owning suchh slow riced out with fart can exhaust and CAI only and thinking theyre fast..
Edgarwinter 2 years ago
Edgarwinter, you might want to get your eyes checked before you write something on here.
I don't know if you were paying attention but the car that you assume is a Honda civic is actually a Mazda speed 6. At the time the car was built mazda was owned/built by ford motor company so there fore it wasn't 1. a rice burner 2, a Honda civic.
Also...If you notice they aren't on the street like your post says. They are actually at a quarter mile track. Look at the staging lights and signs.
jamesdslaughter 2 years ago
Um they are racing on a dragstrip. The car isn't a civic, it doesn't have aftermarket exhaust, and it isn't loaded up with gewgaws, hence it isn't a ricer. It's a sleeper. And that car is fast, a lot faster than the numbers suggest.
DEConnoisseur 2 years ago 8
Fanadical Japan is # 1 building Pocket Rockets. But if there is a car I respect from Chevy is a Corvette. Just think about this for a moment in a Corvette you will get twice as much tickets than in a Miata because vettes are built for speed and are high speed cars They are a Targets for cops, Miatas are not a Vette hits 80 MPH in the Blink of an eye 2nd gear maybe? A Miata needs 4th gear to hit such speed so you can beat the hell out of a Miata have fun with it and still don't get in trouble.
MiamiMiataGroupInc 2 years ago
i totally agree with you that vettes can get to higher speeds but on the other hand rice burners are fast...but only to 0-60 and at higher speeds the vette would have wasted it.
millerchris 2 years ago
that is true...if it had been a mile track, the vette would of stepped it out!!!
offroadfury6 2 years ago
i had a subaru leagacy gt spec b and i raced a camaro ss all the way up to 140 and it never passed me. so no a corvette is not necessarily faster at high speeds than a "rice burner".
calimica1979 2 years ago
are you really putting a camaro ss in the same category as a corvette... wow, your special
kinger1551 2 years ago
Actually, if looked up the spec sheets; 13.8 at 1/4 mile at 104--320 horses and 330 lb.-ft. at the wheels for the SS. The C5 saw 340hp and 350 lbs. torque.1/4 mile 13.2@109 mph .3300lbs for the C5 and 3400 for the camaro. Yes there is a difference, just not much. Since the vette in this video is a standard C5, thats the only reference that should be considered here. Not a Z06 or a C6Yes I am special and thanks for noticing. Also, i found that i could easily keep up with a C5 upto around 90-100.
calimica1979 2 years ago
the only way your car is keeping up with a corvette is if the vette was stock, and your car was not... either way it doesnt matter because i would smoke your little subaru
kinger1551 2 years ago
he is special how are u comparing a camaro to a vette and a speed 6 all three of them are very different cars besides the speed 6 is awd compared to rwd samething with your subaru so u have better traction and you dont burn out as easy as a rwd you moron
seas1er 1 year ago
That was the point I was attempting to make. Its amazing how slow, over reactive and immature the majority of people are that repond and youtube. THATS THE POINT I WAS MAKING. That a mid size sedan has comparitve performance to both resonably powerful cars. Moron.
calimica1979 1 year ago
Just to tell you a little something. I have owned lots of cars that I have taken apart, put back together and modify over the last 15 years. I know every aspect of every vehicle that you will ever know of and drive so I don't need to be called a moron. GROW UP. Time to be a big boy now and act like a man.
calimica1979 1 year ago
@calimica1979 0.6 sec on a 1/4 mile is a HUGE difference. But i do agree just because the car is a "rice burner" which i dont even see what the problem is doesnt mean its worse at high speed. anyway if you want to rip on the car just because its a japanese tuner think about this put most of these quicker "rice burners" around a track with some curves and see who comes out on top. i DO like american cars but the american car is gonna get smoked were not the greatest at track performence
M3X1CAN57AR1NGFR0G 1 year ago
But now that I read this comment of yours, "a track with some curves and see who comes out on top...the american car is gonna get smoked," you need to be informed that the AMERICAN Corvette will beat every Japanese sports car at the race track short of the GTR and LF-A which, of course, will get beaten by the ZR1. Yes, the EVO, STi, S2000, 370Z, etc. will all lose to a base Corvette. By your words, they will all, "get smoked" by an American car.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy well as far as value goes i could buy 2 mazda speed 6s with money left over or i could buy 1 corvette which isnt even a good car....
Bongwater123 1 year ago
@Bongwater123
What are you talking about? New or used? What years?
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy Either way this is a vid about an MS6 racing a C5 on the drag strip.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
That's nice. So one guy ran a slow time in a C5 vert once. Who cares? What does that matter? Fact is a Speed6 is a 14 second car stock and a base C5 is a 13.5 second car stock.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@kageryu311
Anybody who thinks videos like this mean anything at all is an idiot.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy I don't really care what this video means. You just sound like a hater because you come on here telling people that their cars here suck because a ZR1 can beat them and come around with this attitude that imports are garbage. How about you get away from this attitude of thinking you are on the top of the world because you have a C5 Z06. I own a C5 Z06 and have friends who own all sorts of shit but you don't see me going on here telling people their cars suck.
kageryu311 1 year ago
"I don't really care what this video means."
Then why did you make this comment, dipshit?
"Either way this is a vid about an MS6 racing a C5 on the drag strip."
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy I made that comment because I see you going on every video of a Corvette vs a Japanese import and just straight up knocking them and calling people ricers and idiots because they don't agree with you. The C6 Corvette (base/grand sport/Z06/ZR1) is not the end all be all car, bottom line. It is one of the best performance bargains hands down yes but it is not the fastest nor the most versatile car on market.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@01Z06guy I brought that up because you its a simple vid showing a C5 race an MS6 at the drag strip and you turn this into a Japanese Import vs Corvette argument like you do in any video. It gets so stupid its horrible. You sir are a Ricer.
kageryu311 1 year ago
Once again, you are full of shit. I didn't turn this thread into anything. Every single one of my posts here has been correcting people's bullshit with FACTS. Why don't you spend the next four or five hours reading all the comments back to the first one I made here and see for yourself. No, just take my comments out of context as if they are not replies to anything.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy I did prove my point and correct you as there are already numbers on the GT-R. And why should I apologize to you. You're just a douchebag who thinks your car is the end all be all car.
kageryu311 1 year ago
You can't read, can you? Do you think the 2012 GT-R will be faster on the race track than the ZR1 or not? If you think Nissan's Nurburgring time of their preproduction car is proof, than you must also think it's proof the GTR is faster than an Enzo. Do you think it's faster than an Enzo?
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy Yes I do think it is faster than the Enzo around the track. The GT-R already beat numerous cars with better power to weight ratios that were much more expensive on all of its tests around the Nurburgring and numerous other courses. Just because the GT-R will trap lower than the Enzo in the 1/4 mile doesn't mean its a faster car around a track. Look at the R33 GT-R. It got an 8:01 around the ring with 280hp. There are cars with twice that power and ligther that can't beat that time.
kageryu311 1 year ago
"Yes I do think it is faster than the Enzo around the track."
Wow. Just Wow. You are dumper than dirt and just proved it. Thank you.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy Please read your messages and Yes it is faster than the Enzo because it got a better time around the ring than the Enzo did. Numbers don't lie.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
Now that I know just how unbelievably ignorant you are about track performance, I noticed you have no track videos. So what do you use your cars for, street racing or just posing?
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy I don't need to post videos from the track. I run my Mazda and my 02 Z06 at Nashville super Speedway if you are interested. Their not as fast as your super invicible stock 01 Z06 lol.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
I see. So you have a camera to post pointless boring videos of your cars, but you don't post any of the roadcourse racing you do. Sure, I believe that just like I believe a GT-R is faster than an Enzo. Props to Nissan spending the millions of dollars to be able to claim such times so fools like you will think it means their car is faster than every other car that has ever been tested there.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
"thinks your car is the end all be all car."
Thanks for once again showing me you are clueless and can't read and just a hater falsely telling me what I think. By the way, you like looking at penises on the internet. Hey, I said it about you, so it must be true,
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@kageryu311
I find it hilarious you read me telling off some ricer on youtube and you get this ignorant, false assumption about what I think. I'll tell you what, you quote where I said imports are garbage or inferred I am on the top of the world and I'll apologize. If you can't find that quote in the thousands of youtube comments I've made, you apologize to me for being a douche with a reading comprehension problem. Deal?
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy One last thing check the latest update on fastestlaps and you will see that the new record for the GT-R is the latest model.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@01Z06guy The 2012 GT-R beat the ZR1's time around the ring.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
In head to head testing which has been done several times, the ZR1 always beats the GT-R. Only a retard or a ricer would take a second at nurburgring as meaning anything because Nissan has tried thousands of laps for years to get a better time. Same day same driver the ZR1 will always win because it's faster. Are you a retard or a ricer?
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy I'm talking about the 2012 GT-R. There was no head to head testing between the cars of that specific model year. You just love using the term ricer a lot really. The 2012 model of the GT-R has more hp, more torque, less weight, better aero. Look it up the shit is all over corvetteforum and the internet. Take your fucking blinders off and get with the program. They didn't keep the car the same so they got better results. The ZR1 is not invincible to imports.
kageryu311 1 year ago
What kind of retard tries to compare a future car that you can't buy, isn't in production, and specs haven't even been released yet? How pathetic. Then to try to say that having lighter wheels and a different front bumper is going to make it faster than a ZR1 is downright laughable. The GT-R can't even keep up with the Z06 carbon, let alone the ZR1. If you think the minimal changes to the 2012 model will make it faster than a ZR1, you're a straight up retard.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy Its not just a different bumper and lighter tires retard. I posted a fact which is true and you have yet to refute it. The 2012 GTR did get a faster pass on the nurburgring than the ZR1. The car has more HP, more Torque, less weight and better aero. Thats a lot more than just a different bumper and tires. And there you go there is a Japanese import that is faster than the ZR1 on the nurburgring. Future car or not it was tested and confirmed.
kageryu311 1 year ago
No retard. It's not faster. First of all, it's not even in production, so the time is not from a production car. Second, if you think that time makes it a faster car than a ZR1, then you also must think it's faster than an Enzo. Do you think it's faster than an Enzo? Why don't you tell me how much more power it will have in the future when it's made? Can't? That's because nobody knows. It supposedly has a bigger intake tube. Whoopie. Why are we speculating about future cars?
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy I never said faster outright i said faster around a track. The car is gonna make 540-560 at the crank which is a marked improvement over the old. Also they are getting relased this year so we will know sooner than later.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
I noticed you failed to find a single quote of mine doing what you say I do and instead you just repeated your reading comprehension failure, so where is your apology?
01Z06guy 1 year ago
"I never said faster outright i said faster around a track"
So you really think the 2012 GT-R will be faster around a road course head to head with the same drivers than a ZR1? You are really that stupid? You think it's going to pick up 4 seconds at VIR and 5 seconds at Leguna Seca? Please tell me you really are that stupid.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy You're talking like the 2012 GTR is the same exact thing as the 2009 GT-R when Nissan obviously made numerous changes all major. As I said 5 or 6 times it already got a better ring time than the ZR1 did. What you are saying is about as ignorant as the Camaro fanboys saying that the new 5.0 wasn't going to outperform the new Camaro when the Mustang did. The proposed changes will make vast improvements.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
Why can't you answer simple questions? And no, none of the changes to the GT-R are major. None of them. All extremely tiny. Even if you take, "3% more efficient" to mean more powerful, which is wishful thinking, that means it will be rated at 494hp. A whopping 14hp. Big deal. About what you'd expect from a bigger intake tube. Now answer the questions about if you think it will be 5 seconds faster at Leguna Seca and whether you think it's faster than an Enzo.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy Why don't you look at the article from Nagtroc . org where Nissan already proposed the power to be rated at 530hp and 488 ft lbs. There is already a video showing the new 2012 GTR getting a 0-60 of 2.9 seconds. That my friend is a big change.
kageryu311 1 year ago
"Why don't you look at the article from Nagtroc . org"
You mean some guy who made a post on a forum? And also claims a bullshit Nurburgring time on 7:20?
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy Why don't you actually read the thread and article with all of the information thats confirmed. HP/TQ numbers, confirmed. 7:24 Nurburgring time confirmed. 2.9 second 0-60 confirmed. Anything else?
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
Yeah, let me know when Nissan actually produces a 2012 GT-R, releases it's official specs, and it's tested head to head with other cars. Until then, bragging about a "proposed" car because you hope it's faster than a Corvette makes you sound like a ricer.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy Why? The GT-R is faster than all the Corvettes in its price range. And the 2012 GT was tested by nissan and they did in fact do a 7:24 at the nurburgring. If you have proof to say otherwise you have nothing to refute the claim so the 2012 GT-R is in fact faster than the GT-R. Also most of the cars you compare to the corvette's performance are not even in the same price range or class. The Evo, STi, RX8, 370Z, MS3 are much less and not competition for the base Corvette nor meant to be.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
LOL Now it's price range? Where did that come from? You are all over the map. Let me repeat the FACT that has you so pissed off.
The ZR1 is faster at the race track than any Japanese production car ever made. That's a fact. Maybe someday, some future Japanese car will be faster. Today is not that day. And furthermore, when Nissan actually does produce a 2012 model GT-R, it will still be slower than the old ZR1. It has no chance of making up the 3-5 seconds it's behind.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy The 2012 GT-R already beat the ZR1 by 2 seconds so why should they lie. Its all over fastestlaps as well which I know you frequent so why try to make yourself feel better by going back to the ZR1. Face it the ZR1 got bettered by a cheaper car, it happens and you have nothing to back up your claim that the 2012 GT-R is slower. Lets also mention that the record was done on a moist course.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@01Z06guy And as for this 3-5 seconds where the fuck are you getting this shit? The ZR-1 did a 7:26 around the ring. the 2012 GT-R did a 7:24. If the ZR1 was 5 seconds faster that would mean its 1 second slower than the GT2 RS the current Ring record holder.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
I posted the lap times from Willow Springs, Leguna Seca, and VIR already. Go back and actually read them this time. Even the Z06 Carbon bitch slaps the GT-R on all three tracks. These are times by independent reviewers and often the same day with the same drivers. Those are fair comparisons of actual production cars. People who have a clue absolutely do not take a couple seconds between claimed times from preproduction cars to mean anything. But you do. That says it all.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy The Z06 Carbon is more expensive than the GT-R is.
kageryu311 1 year ago
@kageryu311
Again you bring up cost. Why? That's nothing but an excuse because you don't like the FACTS I posted. Where in my statement about the ZR1 being faster than any Japanese production car ever made does it say anything about price? The ZR1 is faster than any Japanese production car ever made cheaper OR more expensive. It's doesn't matter and has nothing to do with price.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy id be willing to bet the nissan GT-R would hold its own VERY well against the ZR1
carrionpvp 1 year ago
@carrionpvp
You don't have to guess. You can just go look at the lap times from when they were compared head to head on multiple tracks and the ZR1 won by heavy margins every time. You can see for yourself at fastestlaps(dot)com.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@01Z06guy The 2011 GT-R beat the ZR1 around the Nürburgring and Willow springs.
12389h 10 months ago
In head to head testing the ZR-1 won by over second per lap. On a different day driven by Randy Pobst the '11 GTR only edged out the Z06 Carbon by .18 seconds. Less than two tenths of a second. You should know very well the ZR1 would have won as usual if it were tested with them as the ZR1 is clearly faster than the Z06. They were never tested head to head at nurburgring, but if they were, the ZR1 would win just like it does every single time they are tested head to head everywhere else.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy The GT-R has a lot less horsepower than the ZR1 and also weighs a lot more. This is why the GT-R is more impressive. Of course, you would expect the ZR1 to be slightly faster around most circuits, but for a road and track car I would still prefer a GT-R (R32 to R35) over the ZR1 any day.
12389h 10 months ago
@12389h
That's nice. I honestly don't care what you would prefer. Being light and powerful is impressive to most people. If a car being heavy impresses you, you can always put some lead bricks in the trunk to make up for all that unimpressive carbon fiber, titanium, and magnesuim in the Corvette and make it more impressive.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@12389h
You can say you would rather have an R32 GTR than a new ZR1 because it's an opinion. It's a silly, nutty opinion just like somebody who says they'd rather have a C4 Corvette than a 2012 GTR. But people are allowed to have dumb opinions. Now if you were a person who had actually driven both cars, and you were actually given the choice in real life, you would change your mind in a heart beat. But saying it online when it doesn't matter probably makes you feel cool somehow.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy I know a person who owns a corvette. They drink fuel, breakdown and are unforgiving at the limit. Put as much money into a R32 and there isn't a Corvette that will touch it on the road or the track. I didn't say the weight of the GT-R impresses me, I said for its specifications it's very impressive performance wise.
12389h 10 months ago
@12389h
Modern Corvettes get much better fuel economy that a GTR. My Z06's window sticker says 19 city/ 28 highway. I have a video right here on youtube showing I average over 26mpg. No GTR can do that. I also have countless videos on me on the track. The last time at the track the track workers radioed about talking to me about my drifting. Am I the greatest driver in the world, or are you as ignorant about the handling limits of the Corvette as you are about it's gas mileage?
01Z06guy 10 months ago
"Put as much money into a R32 and there isn't a Corvette that will touch it on the road or the track"
The GTR is just a car. It's not the magical machine ricers think it is. This statement of yours that I quoted is so wrong and off base, only a ricer would believe it. I've seen a R-34 Spec V on Firebird Main in Phoenix. It's lap times were slower than mine which is no suprise since the C5Z06 is faster than all GTRs before the R35 which is WAY WAY faster than all GTRs before it.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy Remember the GT-Rs before the R35 were limited to 276bhp. The C5 Z06 is no where near the performance of a Nismo tuned R34, which was put into production at around the same time. What's so wrong about my statement? It's every hillbilly who overrates Corvettes, what has the Corvette done compared to the GT-R in the world of Motor sport? In this video a tuned Corvette was having problems with a stock Mazdaspeed6, and the MS6 isn't even made for a drag strip.
12389h 10 months ago
"C5 Z06 is no where near the performance of a Nismo tuned R34"
Z-tuned cars are not production cars. Now you are comparing a tuner car to a factory stock car. How silly. And if you want to go down that road, a Lingenfelter can bitch slap a Z-tune. You can buy over 1000hp in either car. It's a retarded argument.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy The Z-tune was basically Nissan showing us what they could have done for the R34 if they didn't have a 276 bhp limit. Fact is GT-Rs have been and will always be more refined machines than Corvettes.
12389h 10 months ago
"what has the Corvette done compared to the GT-R in the world of Motor sport? "
Are you kidding me? Really? The Corvette has done far, far more than the GTR in motorsports. I can't go down such an endless list so lets go to the pinnacle of sports car racing. LeMans. Six GT1 class LeMans victories. 8 ALMS GT1 chamionships.
GTR's best ever finish was 5th in GT1 class once.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy They even had to ban the R32 GT-R in Australia, it never lost a race even though it was the heaviest car there. The only competitors for GT-Rs have been from Porsche. The technology in GT-Rs are at a different level to Corvettes. The Corvette has never had a bigger influence than the GT-R in motor sport or on the road.
12389h 10 months ago
@12389h
You are just spewing the same ignorant crap that has been spewed for years. Banned in Australia? Who the fuck cares? Lots of cars have been banned from lots of race series. The Viper was banned from LeMans. An important race organization that matters. The GTR was not banned from LeMans. It was simply too slow to compete. The Corvette has ALWAYS had a bigger influence in motorsports that the GTR. ALWAYS. Your ignorance of that fact makes it no less true.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy Whatever you say, with a name like "Z06guy" it's pretty obvious what your going to say. A Corvette was only .4 seconds faster than a stock Mazdaspeed6 on a 1/4 mile. I guess I'll know what to do if a Corvette pulls up next to me at the lights, even though it's unlikely because nobody is stupid enough to buy a Corvette anywhere in the world, excluding America.
12389h 10 months ago
@12389h
Yeah, a base C5 vert with an auto and runflat tires is only about .5 second faster in the 1/4 mile than a Speed6. Who cares? Officially, it's about 13.5 to 14.0. Both slow. Who cares? That's the slowest corvette you can buy in the last 15 years. A base model C6 runs it in 12.5 and the fast models run it in the 10s. You will get raped by plenty of stock Corvettes.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy I'd like to see a Corvette driver in a "fast" model run it in 10s. A Corvette ZR1 runs more like 11 seconds with a good driver.
"You will get raped by plenty of stock Corvettes."
That's possible if the Corvette hasn't broken down or the hillbilly hasn't lost control and crashed it.
12389h 10 months ago
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"I'd like to see a Corvette driver in a "fast" model run it in 10s."
Here you go.
watch?v=woOqqfGtqHo
Now that we got that out of the way, you want to talk about reliability? Okay, compared to what?
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@12389h
Here you go.
watch?v=woOqqfGtqHo
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy I stand corrected. But tell me, would really have the ZR1 over the 2 GT-Rs in this video: watch?v=odwyeIq7mxs ?
12389h 10 months ago
@12389h
That depends upon whatever car is worth the most because I'd sell any of the four instantly. How can you know which is the, "best" amoung four random, highly modified cars in a video? At least the ZR1 and the R35 whom's ass it kicked are supposedly from respected tuners. The other two might be cobbled together piles. Who knows? HP claims and winning street races in traffic is certianly not the deciding factors for me.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy If you want to buy a supercar it's all about winning races.
12389h 10 months ago
@12389h
No it isn't. And none of those cars are supercars.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@01Z06guy Well your right, the GT-R is a supercar "killer".
12389h 10 months ago
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@12389h
That depends upon whatever car is worth the most because I'd sell any of the four instantly. How can you know which is the, "best" amoung four random, highly modified cars in a video? At least the ZR1 and the R35 whom's ass it kicked are supposedly from respected tuners. The other two might be cobbled together piles. Who knows? HP claims and winning street races in traffic is certianly not the deciding factors for me.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@12389h
Why do you think I have this username? Because that's the car I registered to post videos of. Why did I buy it? Because it's the fastest all around, modern car my $20,000 could buy at the time almost five years ago. No car from Japan was close, no car from Europe was close. For race track performance in a modern, used car it cannot be beat by anything. That's why I bought it, that's why it's my username. You poor, ignorant, Euro idiots have been deprived.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@12389h
There was no real super technology in R32- R34 GTRs. They had ATTESSA AWD and turbos. So? Nothing high tech there. The Corvette also had active handling. Same thing for RWD. Did it have manufacuting technology like hydroforming and extensive use of composite materials like the Corvette? Not really, no. Did it have HUD? I don't think you understand what the words technology and refinement mean. R32-R34 GTRs are the most overrated cars of all time.
01Z06guy 10 months ago
@kageryu311
Gee, if only there was a brand new Japanese supercar costing hundreds of thousands of dollars and having a V10 engine, then surely it would be faster than a production Chevy, right? Ooops, there is one and it's slower. There goes your bitch about price.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
This is fun and all, but in all seriousness, I know what happened here. You have seen my posts telling off ricers, but you didn't understand what they were replies to, so you assumed I am the same as others you have hated in the past. If I told you my honest opinion of cars, you would feel like a fool. Maybe if only you saw my Supra and MR2 videos, you would see. It doesn't matter to me. People falsely telling me what I think doesn't bother me.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
"The proposed changes will make vast improvements. "
"Proposed." LOL I can't believe you are speculating and about a future car as your argument that the ZR1 isn't faster than every Japanese production car ever made. Just get over it and admit the ZR1 is faster than every Japanese production car ever made already. Yeah, and the changes to the Spec-V were more extreme and it was supposed to dominate the world. Oops, that one let the fanboys down. LOL
01Z06guy 1 year ago
@kageryu311
Of course the ZR1 isn't invincible to imports. There are lots of European production cars that are faster. There are ZERO Japanese production cars faster. Which is just what I said.
01Z06guy 1 year ago
Essentially.... they're the same exact engine, so technically speaking one COULD say that. Base Corvette engine is what goes in the SS camaro. z06 corvette of course gets the higher end engine (like LS7 for z06 c6, but LS3 for base)
BulletproofMonk 1 year ago
I don't drive fast on public roads. I only drive my 1980 corvette on a nice day. My daily driver is a 1987 VW Jetta diesel, I do about 57mpg city, so I'm pretty happy. But still I love taking my vette down to the track. I recently bought an L88 cam, I can do the 1/4 mile in 11,43s @ 112mph. By the way miamimiata, I've never been ticketed in my corvette.
FANADICALCOWHEAD 2 years ago
if he launched that ms6 better, he would've ran a 13.4 ish. i launch at 5500 rpm and relax the clutch and it goes like hell.
LilTony5271991 2 years ago
mazda got a rough start
BodomAllBodom 2 years ago
I would take any Mazda over any Chevy anytime any day Mazdas are bullet proof reliable this days the same can't be said for Chevrolet cars . Sorry bow tie guys. Even a Miata can give the vette a run for it's money in a track day. LOL
MiamiMiataGroupInc 2 years ago
You can't be serious, Chevy's NEVER die. My dad's silverado that's been sitting in a yard for 4 years started up with little work. All we had to do was pour a bit of gas into the carburetor and it started perfectly, and this truck has worked a lot in its life time. The miata might be able to turn corners but where are you going to use high speed cornering? On the highway? You'll get ticketed within seconds if you do that. So you might as well stick with 1/4mile drag racing. Don't make up facts.
FANADICALCOWHEAD 2 years ago
Any car nowadays can make it to the 100k mile mark but mazdas do make it there easier then a cobalt would for example. Im not going to disagree with you because my 70 monte that sat for 15 years runs good enough for having 330k miles on it. I even use it as a daily driver
ChaseSpeer 2 years ago
that mazda has a turbo and awd it looks like a sleeper a stock sleeper
saleenxxx 2 years ago
I think that speed6 could have ran faster too, that was a terrible tree on his part
edmonton2824 2 years ago
american shit, to big engine, to less power...
DUCzillaMonster 2 years ago
Corvette crap, its competing with a 4 door family saloon. I bet if you put the crappy chevy through the corners Mazda would slaughter the US crap
rob2049 2 years ago
wow some one is full of shit and jelous that they can't get a car as nice as a vette!
98montecarloz34 2 years ago
rob I love mazdaspeeds as much as the next person, but you dont know much about cars lol, that vette driver was horrible to be running 13.4's period
papaown 2 years ago 19
I am sure driving skills have much to do with racing. I think it is a combination of man and his machine, and what you do with it..
rob2049 2 years ago 2
@papaown Yea I'm gonna have to call bs on that one. It's an automatic c5, not exactly a rocket ship. Nice time for the ms6. I think a better launch woulda had it even lower though
MrIdidyourmother 1 year ago
@papaown i completely agree with you man, the vette driver was horrible i mean really my friends 06 mustang gt runs 13's stock. disgrace for a vette
titaniumx64 1 year ago
@papaown
sounds like an auto. bout the only thing you can screw up is the launch and it didnt sound too terrible
andrew1501 1 year ago
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zinger002 1 year ago
@papaown how can the driver of an automatic be horrible?
sleepisyummy 1 year ago
i wish that was true, i hate american cars for the most part, but the corvette's handling and suspension was created in Europe so it actually does handle well but i would still take the mazda haha.
MANUALmobile 2 years ago
There you go!! Vette has improved, but it still is a gas quenching beast. Take a half size of vette engine, throw some turbos and you end up just as good of a car as vette, that is more fun to drive, right?
rob2049 2 years ago
Its all a matter of preference. I own a 1980 corvette, I have an 454 with 2 holly 750's, edelbrock heads, cast aluminum pistons and pushrod, M22 close ratio gear box. I spent 7,000$ on the car and about 2,000 on the engine. Drag racing is my hobby. (obviously :P). My idea of "fun to drive" is being able to go fast, while others like small convertible sport cars (MX-5, triumph, etc)
Do I think my car is the best? I do somewhat, 578bhp & 723lbs/ft, not bad for 9k. You can do alot with an RX7 too:)
FANADICALCOWHEAD 2 years ago
@rob2049
You're a dumbass if you think the vette is a "gas quenching beast" my dad got 30.2mpg highway in his 03 z06 with just a k&n cold air intake and borla catback, most turbo 4's and 6 cylinders don't even get that.
papaown 1 year ago
@papaown It's true. The 6spd is excellent for cruising and final drive rear end gearing compliments the mileage as well. The TQ makes up for the low final drive ratio anyway.
sdmws6 1 year ago
@papaown most 4 and 6 cyls DO get that, and better.
My MS3 gets 34-35 highway. 30-31 city.
Hay44444 1 year ago
I mean I have madd respect for most tuners but why is it that whenever American Muscle kicks ass on the 1/4 every turner goes to the corners bit. Actually if both cars had good drivers the Vette would still win. Its comparable to saying the Mazda would own a Viper it's simply not true. The Vette has better handling then most tuners give it credit for. Speed and the wide wheel base still kill. Now a Shelby would get its ass kicked on the corners by both cars and I'm a Mustang guy.
EMHbelmonte 2 years ago
slow start
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