Chi-Tu Do - Ikkyo waza

[CTDjevin]

I guess you should have been there for the rest of this lesson then. This video was done to help the students remember hand position and taking the balance of your attacker. I stress foot and body position frequently. I tell the students, "if you are using strength to affect the technique you are doing something wrong."

[erutan2099]

Very true. I was actually present for this particular lesson.

[Aur0rah]

your technique is good i think but one thing you lack is the very needed good position and feet position , to have good statuer is the key not only for balance but for the accuracy of a technique. You cannot just go about cassually as if you were in sleeping wear walking and striding along like as if you were at home. no in battle you need battle stance all the way thorugh.. see kamae.

[Aur0rah]

i believe these work all juijitsu martial arts were created for a reason.. but for pinns moves specially i think aikido is the one for that.. for limb locking i think juijitsu.. for wrist pressure and deadly ways aikijujutsu.. for the manipulation of the upperbody judo.. for hitting and damaging all striking arts.... for dissarming and escaping krav maga and ninjutsu bujutsu.

[CTDjevin]

A comment was recently posted that has been moderated for profanity. I don't care if you disagree with me, this art or my interpretation of what I have been taught, but this channel is for my students, many of whom are kids. Disagree all you want, but do so without being disrespectful.

[CliffVictory]

There are so many people practicing wrist grabs, I don't see why because i most real life situations this never happens so what's the point? I can see shoulder grabs, head locks, rear chokes but why so many wrist grabs.

[CTDjevin]

Good point. One of the things I hope to convey to my students is that the same principle employed here on a wrist grab (by the way, this *does* happen, it happened to me) can also be employed on a great variety of other attacks. While the wrist grab may or may not be the most common, the under pinning principle holds. Thank you for commenting, I hope you enjoy our videos!

[CliffVictory]

Thanks for the reply, I'm not trying to discredit your style, I have trained in Jujitsu for a few years to supplement my TaeKwondo and Judo, I've never been in a "wrist grab situation" but yes anything is possible. From personal experience I've encountered shoulder grabs,rear naked chokes,haymakers and cowardly attacks from behind. Anyway, thank you for ther reply.

[CTDjevin]

No worries! I didn't take your comments as disrespectful at all, simply a difference of perspective. Sorry it took so long to reply this time ... I have this thing called work that they expect me to do everyday :-)

Again, thank you for watching, I hope you enjoy the videos.

[bouncingboredom]

I can only guess, but maybe 'gaslunchcigarettes' is unhappy that the technique is labelled Ikkyo, and was expecting more focus on the elbow control, but much of the demonstration focuses on the shoulder.

Maybe some of the names he was called "inaacurate, arrogant, ignorant" were harsh, but his last comment certainly qualifies as insulting.

Just my two pennies worth.

[CTDWRESTLER1]

gaslunchcigarettes: lets see how sloppy you think this technique is after someone hands back your arm a bloody stump. And just so you know, I am the one in this class that is a Jujitsu skeptic. This WORKS! I have the shoulder pains to prove it! What system do you train in,I would be interested in learning how you apply it. :)

[leguancz]

I think better control of the arm would be with grab on the elbow. Otherwise I always liked the combination of starting nikkyo and then comng to ikkyo, I see it this way at least. My opinion only.

[CTDjevin]

Good point. The part that seemed to stem the controversy is the wrist control teamed with the shoulder pin. When you take all the slack out of the wrist rotation and also bend the wrist (palm to forearm) it forces the arm to straighten and uke to bend forward. It may or may not be what is commonly taught but it works beautifully. For giggles, try going from ikkyo to nikkyo by leaving the shoulder or elbow and folding the arm.

[OriginalSmohrman]

gaslunchcigarettes- the author states: "performed in various presentations in an effort to show several applications, to assist our students in their understanding of how to apply this technique"

Obviously he's not doing this at combat speed, it's an instructional video.

[gaslunchcigarettes]

looks great ikkyo is an elbow control. if you take the shoulder you will eat that elbow. i know you think you really have something with the wrist control and the shoulder, but this is the sloppiest I have ever seen. I just watched it again and i think you should tag this as comedy.

[CTDjevin]

gaslunchcigarettes - Interesting. Your comments are; inaccurate, arrogant, ignorant and insulting. Is this what your Sensei teaches?

[bakakata]

ikkyo (along with nikyo, sankyo... not kyu ranks, yonkyo and gokyo) were actually a combination of stretchs for small (ko) joint (in this case, te, the hand) manipulation. I am sure you have heard of kotegaeshi, that is also one, including others. BTW, I am defending no one (not you nor CTD). FYI, I think this video could be reshot with a better technical display of the tech since it does look kindof sloppy/impractical to anyone with experience, just my opinion.

[CTDjevin]

Nice to hear from you bakakata... and thanks for commenting. Could you give me your opinion on what it was about how we shot this that came across as sloppy/impractical. This vid was intended to reinforce a lesson taught in class, not be a lesson to itself. I always welcome constructive critisim and dialog. Thanks!

[Derukugi2]

Umm... the "Ikkyo, Nikkyo" etc. naming has nothing to do with "ko" as in small joint (assuming you are trying to explain Japanese). This is simply a counter. Note that they don't call them "Ikko, Nikko" etc...

The joint lock shown here is a "kote gatame", if you want to use the technical Japanese term.

The "Ikkyo, Nikkyo" etc. is from Aikido; in jujutsu usually the technical name is used (kote gatame, kote hineri, kote gaishi etc.) And by the way, this here would a "nikkyo" in Aikikai Aikido.