@jovoification It is Greek.And it's proven throughout history. A kingdom in which their people speak Greek, write in Greek, pray to Greek gods, use the Greek culture and claim themselves as Greeks then couldn't be anything else than Greeks. Search for the Oath of Alexander before you bullshit. Read some history.The house of the Greek gods,the Mt. Olympus was located in the region of Macedonia.The name Olympus is popular around Greece.
@jovoification I believe in logic you stupid ape. And logical I can prove you that Ancient Macedonians were Greeks.What can you do except from bullshiting and talking without facts?? You fucking monkey....I can smash your stupid theories by myself.But since you don't believe me,I reccomend you to consult the scientific world in order you come around and learn some real history and not stupid stories from your dirty parents.
@jovoification Well you could name yourself as French.You can claim whatever you want with your little brain.But what do you have in common with Ancient Macedonians and what me, as a Greek do I have in common.Your culture is SLAVIC.What language do you speak? Can you communicate with a Serbian or Bulgarian in your mother tongue? Do you honor Cyril and Method? Do you write in Slavic?? The answer is YES.You have no link between your Slavic culture and the Greek culture of Macedonians.END OF STORY
@jovoification Read the Pledge of Alexander the Great in 324 B.C. You can key in google and find any Greek or Non-Greek website that can give you some answers to your confusion.Read Plutarch.READ SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PUBLISHED BY YOUR STUPID COMPATRIOTS.Watch a documantary.Watch a BBC of History Channel Documentary.Visit a Museum.DO SOMETHING YOU IGNORANT.Read where Alexander prayed before starting his campaing.READ YOU STUPID.
@antipropagandist2 before my grandparents immigrated to australia they spoke greek they never originally spoke the slavic language untill they realised that there were mnay macedonians in the area
@jovoification How stupid could someone be??You ignore your identity and your Slavic descent and you think that this new born nation called Vardarska Banovina should be called "Macedonia".I will repeat that through the scientific world there is not any fucking independant ethnicity called as Macedonians.PUT THAT IN YOUR MIND.I have all the cultural characteristics for being offspring of real Macedonians as I am Greek.What do you have?Only Slavic characterisitcs and some stupid propaganda.
@antipropagandist2 bastard i know we spoke greek believed in greek gods and im proud to say we did but seriousley i dont even speak slav cockhead so get your facts right mate
@jovoification Hahaha fucking brainwashed monkey.You are a son of dirty Albanian bitch.You fucking barbarian language that you speak nowadays is SLAVIC.And has nothing to do with ancient Macedonian.Tell me one single common element that you have with Ancient Macedonians.NOTHING YOU FUCKING SHITHEAD.NOTHING
@jovoification You live in a country which was part of YUGOSLAVIA. ONE MORE TIME YUGO- SLAVIA.You are Slavs.You honor the Greek brothers Cyril and Method.You speak almost the same language with Serbians.Tell me you son of a bitch.Tell me stupid monkey.What do you have in common with Ancient Macedonians and what do you have in common with Bulgarians.In the first case you got nothing in common.But in the second,you are almost the same.NOW FUCK OFF IDIOT APE.
@antipropagandist2 if you are a so called real makedonian your a fuking huge disgrace yes i know many makedonians are fake as being slav but i dont care makedonia still belongs to me im a makedonian a real makedonian and you can go and dream if you think makedonia is greek
@antipropagandist2 i wont choose my identity i know what i am and if your a greek makedonian then its time for you to realise that makedonia isnt greek either is it yugoslav im only a makedonian dosent matter if my gradparents and my ancestors spoke greek it dosent make them greek
@jovoification And it's time for you to FUCKING REALISE that there isn't an independant ethnicity called Macedonians.You are SLAV.And you are so fucking Brainwashed that you think that Vardarska should be called Macedonia.You know shit.You don't know who you are because your country is a mix of Albanians and Bulgarians.Read Plutarch you idiot.To see if Macedonia is Hellenic.One more....THERE IS NOT AN INDEPENDANT ETHNICITY CALLED MACEDONIANS.READ SOME FACTS AND STOP BULLSHITING.
@jovoification An ethnicity is defined by the language,the alphabet,the names,the cultural elements and the ethics.Ancient Macedonians were speaking Greek,were writing in Greek,ALL their names were totally Greek and none of them Slavis as your language is,their architecture were Greek(Dorian Style),their whole culture was Greek.SO FUCKING SIMPLE.THEY WERE GREEKS.They were Dorians, like Spartans.Now you have a Slavic culture and you claim that you are Macedonian.I bet you are a pathetic idiot.
@jovoification An ethnicity is defined by the language,the alphabet,the names,the cultural elements and the ethics.Ancient Macedonians were speaking Greek,were writing in Greek,ALL their names were totally Greek and none of them Slavis as your language is,their architecture were Greek(Dorian Style),their whole culture was Greek.SO FUCKING SIMPLE.THEY WERE GREEKS.They were Dorians, like Spartans.Now you have a Slavic culture and you claim that you are Macedonian.I bet you are a pathetic idiot.
@jovoification There are not any Slavs who are Macedonians for real.Those who speak the Bulgarian language and live in Vardarska,have no history at all while their country was founded in 1929 and their etholinguistic group is Slavic.And Slavs populated regions as Vardarska and Bulgaria at about 600AD.So you have to choose.Either you are Macedonian thererfore you are Greek either you are Vardarskan(wannabe Macedonian with no historical evidence) therefore you are Slav.
@antipropagandist2 i agree with most of what you said yes but im not greek im only makedonian and i do believe some of the macedonians are slavs not all though many still are makedonian
@jovoification What I try to explain you is that Macedonians are not a seperate ethnicity.There is not any ethnicity anywhere which is called Macedonians.Macedonia was always part of Hellas.In antiquity and modern times as well.It was just a Greek kingdom.If you are Macedonian therefore you are Greek.Is like you say that you are Bavarian but not German or from Toscana but not Italian.It makes no sense and it's impossible.
@antipropagandist2 even though we makedonians yes even some today do speak greek have greek names and greek culture this dosent mean makedonia is greek at all you dont understand when a real makedonian speaks its a much different dialect anyway many greeks wouldnt understand many words
@jovoification This is just ridiculous.Tell me.Do you use the Cyrilic alphabet?Can you speak with a Serb or a Bulgarian in another language?? If you can then you are Slav.If you cannot then you speak Greek and you are Greek therefore you are Macedonian.Simple things.Your words make no sense.If you have the characteristics that I refered then you are Slav.Your country Vardarska, is a country populated ONLY by Slavs that have no idea about history.They are Slavs who came here 1000 after Alexander.
@jovoification Real Macedonians are Greek.And we speak Modern Greek.For me to understand an Ancient Macedonian inscription which is written in the Attic Dialect is as hard as to read an Athenian inscription which is written in Attic Dialect as well.Macedonians are Greeks.And all it's history is Greek.Philippos took place in the Olympic Games.Alexander prayed in Troy.The house of Greek gods was located in Macedonia.Philippos was chosen ruler of Greece.Alexander spread the Greek civilization.
@antipropagandist2 although this truely dosent mind me if they want to be makedonians they can be its not always about blood its about patriotism i seriousley dont mind slavs calling themselves makedonians its a beneifit for me and other makedonians
@antipropagandist2 slavs have slav names slavs speak a slav language or dialect nothing that is not me although you are just saying this because you dont respect my opinion this makes you stupid im 100% sure im not a slav and like i said yes i dont believe makedonia is greek thats my opinion because i am a makedonian i do believe that many that say they are makedonians really arnt because of how they look just by appearance i can tell who are the slavs and who are the makedons
@antipropagandist2 my family never spoke slav what maks me a slav my name isnt slav my culture isnt slav where im from isnt slav so tell me then how am i a alv tell me
@antipropagandist2 im not slav im not even from vardarska makedonia so what the fuk can you possibly be telling me if im as you say a slav then that makes you are slav end of story its obvious if my blood is from thessaloniki and im as you say am a slav then its simple you must be slavic too
yeh i saw a poster saying theseloniki fuking dumb greeks my grandma is from there and my grandfather was originally from pella they think completely opposite let me make this clear to all greeks MACEDONIA WAS NEVER GREEK AND WILL NEVER BE GREEK MY FAMILY IS ACTUALLY FROM GREECE ALTHOUGH IT WILL ALWAYS BE MACEDONIA AND THEY WILL NEVER BE GREEK OR CALL THEMSELVES GREEK, IF ANYONE BELIEVES GREECE THEN YOUR AN IDIOT THEY ARE LIERS AND TWO FACED IDIOTS YUGOSLAVS ARE MY BROTHERS MACEDONIA FOREVER
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you are the only monkeys in the world that will protest against the basic human rights of another people and country. Guess what? Now you don't have enough money to pay for bread or electricity, thanks for wasting your time and money idiots! And since you're all praying in Macedonian Orthodox churches built by Macedonians, you're all going to hell!
Μπράβο παιδιά!Συγχαρητήρια σε όσους πήγαν εκεί και υπερασπίστηκαν την εθνική ταυτότητα τους που κάπιοι ανιστόρητοι και ανόητοι θέλουν να κλέψουν.Μπράβο στον τότε Δήμαρχο,Δυστηχώς η Ελλάδα έχει αμερικανοποιηθεί και αμα γινόταν κάποια τέτοια διαδήλωση φέτος θα πήγαιναν πολύ λιγότεροι,όμως πότε δεν το βάζουμε κάτω,ποτέ δεν θα υποδουλωθεί το Ελληνικό πνεύμα,συνεχίστε τον αγώνα μπράβο!
@martinlisitsata I speak of Ancient Macedonia mate,and Macedonia of Greece,this Macedonia that the people of Vardaska wants to steal from us,but never,are you from Bulgaria?
U STUPID SKOPJE PEOPLE U ARE NOT MACEDONS. IF U ARE MACEDONS WHY DONT U SPEAK GREEK? THEN WHY DID ALEXANDER THE GREAT SPOKE GREEK?! WHY? u suck monkeydonians
You are always very aggressive whatever the truth is when you think that you a stronger. But guess what, you a not stronger. Because GOD DEFEND MACEDONIA. Didn't you realize that in past 20 years.
Macedonia survived with God help even with several much stronger enemies.
Another smart move by a young country. Protest against Greece, the country that is your #1 investor and #2 trading partner. What's next? Putting your d*cks in a moving fan?
Where were u motherfuckers till 1992?Socialist Republic of Macedonia is from 1945,or as we all know part of Yugoslavia.Fucktard Greek asses,u cant be Greek and Macedonian also.Macedonia to Macedonians.Fuck you!!!If u create a state called Macedonia,then come and talk shit,until then suck Greece dick.
MESSAGE FOR MONKYDONIANS AND ALBANIANS: YES BASTARDS, WE ARE FASCISTS AND WE DRINK UR MONGOL BLOOD, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! IN THIS AREA ONLY WE CAN SPEAK!!!! LONG LIVE HELLAS, HELLAS OR DEATH!!!
As a proof of non-Greekness of the Macedonians is Greece, itself and its writers and historians who with one voice concluded that Macedonians were foreigner to Greeks as were Ilyrians, Thracians, Persians, Egyptians, etc. All of them labeled as 'Barbarian' (Demostenes, Thrasymacus). The list of ancients regarding Macedonians non-Greeknes is endless: Plutarch, Q.Rufius, Arian, Diodor of Sicul, Strabo, Ephor, Justin, Ptolemy, Polybius, etc, etc.
whatever you say...i know my history.thracians were greeks ,too.they wasnt barbarians.All world knows it.and before 1991..before FYROMS indipendness macedonian history...was Greek history.everyone knows it.somethind strage will happen again in balcans for sure.why kosovo want to be indipendet,too??why usa made this military camp in kossovo???why greece has so big oil ...gold ..and uranium resurces and nobody uses it???
all these are politics.all this isnt about a name.its about who will have the influence in balkans.and the balkans resurces.and after 3000 years of accient macedonia..nobody in the area is a real macedonian.But i belive greece has the most right to use this history.because in accient times as i sayed macedonians were a greeek tribe..like spartans korithians...athinians and other tribes.
You seem to ignore all of my proofs showed into my comments. Well, my goal is not to convince you but to show that there is also an another version, different from yours.
Anyway, the biggest enemy of Balkan countries all over times, is USA.
the ancient Macedonians speak a Greek dialect the Koine-Greek very similar to Attic-Ionic (speaking by the Greek tribes of the Athenians and Ionians--->in minor Asia "today Turkey"). go and ask professors from great universities if you want objective and true opinion. i lived in different countries(GERMANY,ITALY,SWITZERLAND) and i read their history books the last years
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
@luboteni trying to wewrite history are you even if what you say is true greece have a stronger claim then macedonia,and your a complete fool cos it has proven to be greek by thousands of historians and anthropoligist throught the world even the primeminister of macedonia back in the 90'd admitted macedonia is a greek region
and your a idiot cos the ancient writers actually wrote about macedonia is part of greece
Come here in Macedonia , the Republic of Macedonia , if you fell like Macedonian's , don't stay in you'r poor contry Greece , you are near economic colapse i feel sorry for you GAYREEKS
A clear example of Primitive chauvinism! This man who is speaking toward Greeks does not differ much from Hitler or Musolini. Greece is following a policy of 'purification' and 'hellenization' of everything spreading its propaganda in every pore of life even manipulating with T-shirts, cigaretts, Taxi-companies, Airport, female panties, female corsages with pathetic motto: Macedonia is Greek'!!!
Well...I compared him with Hitler because he used propaganda (distorting facts) in order to manipulate peoples with faking notions like ancient Macedonia. Ancient Macedonia isn't proper of Greeks or SlavoMacedonians. Two sides are entirely wrong. Macedonia belongs to the Illyrian chapters of history.
accient Macedonians spoke and write greek...had the same greek gods like all other greek tribes...macedonians joned the olympic games... something that eyryone who wasnt greek couldnt join ...on every macedonian coin there are greek words that i can understand...you not....the teacher of alexander the great was aristoteles....who was greek...so ...what proof do you have that macedonans wasnt greeks???
We are not sure if Macedonians spoke Greek because there is no literary record of language of the Macedonians. Macedonians were not joined in the Olympic games but some Macedonian kings (Alexander I, Philip II). Tell me another Macedonian king who participated in those games?
Even it was said by Herodotus that Scythians claim descent from Herakles but no one has thought Scythians as Greek. In all Illyrian coins are found Greek words, but noone consider Illyrians as Greeks.
What's the significance of 2013? If you're talking about the Treaty of Bucharest, you clearly have no concept of the principle of continuity in international law. Besides, there was no "Macedonia" in 1913, was there? If the treaty does "expire", Macedonia will revert to Ottoman rule. ;)
How can people from FYROM claim that they are macedonians when "macedonia" is a Greek word, Alexander (Alexandros) is a Greek word, Filippos (father of Alexander) is a Greek word and Eastern Europe can understand them when people from FYROM speak their so called to be Unique Macedonian Language (Slavic - Bulgarian).
Ο δήμαρχος είπε: "ΔΕΝ είναι αντικείμενο συναλλαγής η ιστορία, ΔΕΝ είναι αντικείμενο συναλλαγής η εθνική ταυτότητα, ΔΕΝ χαρίζεται, ΟΥΤΕ χρησιμοποιείται, ΔΕΝ είναι αντικείμενο κλοπής και η ταυτότητα αυτή ανήκει σε όλους εμάς τους έλληνας."
τι είναι όλος αυτός ο κόσμος στους δρόμους της θεσσαλονίκης? φασίστες? Είναι ΠΕΡΗΦΑΝΟΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ που και σήμερα πρέπει μαζικά να πολεμήσουν την προπαγάνδα των μαϊμουδώνων και των κέντρων που τους υποστηρίζουν εντός και εκτός Ελλάδας.
@antipropagandist2 how many times do i have to tell you im not slav macedonia has a relation to greece it is not greek
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@jovoification It is Greek.And it's proven throughout history. A kingdom in which their people speak Greek, write in Greek, pray to Greek gods, use the Greek culture and claim themselves as Greeks then couldn't be anything else than Greeks. Search for the Oath of Alexander before you bullshit. Read some history.The house of the Greek gods,the Mt. Olympus was located in the region of Macedonia.The name Olympus is popular around Greece.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 read watch television documentaries hahahhaha what a joke so you believe what people think is right your fuking stupid
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@jovoification I believe in logic you stupid ape. And logical I can prove you that Ancient Macedonians were Greeks.What can you do except from bullshiting and talking without facts?? You fucking monkey....I can smash your stupid theories by myself.But since you don't believe me,I reccomend you to consult the scientific world in order you come around and learn some real history and not stupid stories from your dirty parents.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@jovoification Well you could name yourself as French.You can claim whatever you want with your little brain.But what do you have in common with Ancient Macedonians and what me, as a Greek do I have in common.Your culture is SLAVIC.What language do you speak? Can you communicate with a Serbian or Bulgarian in your mother tongue? Do you honor Cyril and Method? Do you write in Slavic?? The answer is YES.You have no link between your Slavic culture and the Greek culture of Macedonians.END OF STORY
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@jovoification Read the Pledge of Alexander the Great in 324 B.C. You can key in google and find any Greek or Non-Greek website that can give you some answers to your confusion.Read Plutarch.READ SOMETHING THAT IS NOT PUBLISHED BY YOUR STUPID COMPATRIOTS.Watch a documantary.Watch a BBC of History Channel Documentary.Visit a Museum.DO SOMETHING YOU IGNORANT.Read where Alexander prayed before starting his campaing.READ YOU STUPID.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 before my grandparents immigrated to australia they spoke greek they never originally spoke the slavic language untill they realised that there were mnay macedonians in the area
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@jovoification How stupid could someone be??You ignore your identity and your Slavic descent and you think that this new born nation called Vardarska Banovina should be called "Macedonia".I will repeat that through the scientific world there is not any fucking independant ethnicity called as Macedonians.PUT THAT IN YOUR MIND.I have all the cultural characteristics for being offspring of real Macedonians as I am Greek.What do you have?Only Slavic characterisitcs and some stupid propaganda.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 bastard i know we spoke greek believed in greek gods and im proud to say we did but seriousley i dont even speak slav cockhead so get your facts right mate
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@jovoification Hahaha fucking brainwashed monkey.You are a son of dirty Albanian bitch.You fucking barbarian language that you speak nowadays is SLAVIC.And has nothing to do with ancient Macedonian.Tell me one single common element that you have with Ancient Macedonians.NOTHING YOU FUCKING SHITHEAD.NOTHING
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@jovoification You live in a country which was part of YUGOSLAVIA. ONE MORE TIME YUGO- SLAVIA.You are Slavs.You honor the Greek brothers Cyril and Method.You speak almost the same language with Serbians.Tell me you son of a bitch.Tell me stupid monkey.What do you have in common with Ancient Macedonians and what do you have in common with Bulgarians.In the first case you got nothing in common.But in the second,you are almost the same.NOW FUCK OFF IDIOT APE.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 makedonia is and always will be its own independant race we are not slav we are not hellenic we are only makedonians got it malaka
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 if you are a so called real makedonian your a fuking huge disgrace yes i know many makedonians are fake as being slav but i dont care makedonia still belongs to me im a makedonian a real makedonian and you can go and dream if you think makedonia is greek
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 i wont choose my identity i know what i am and if your a greek makedonian then its time for you to realise that makedonia isnt greek either is it yugoslav im only a makedonian dosent matter if my gradparents and my ancestors spoke greek it dosent make them greek
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@jovoification And it's time for you to FUCKING REALISE that there isn't an independant ethnicity called Macedonians.You are SLAV.And you are so fucking Brainwashed that you think that Vardarska should be called Macedonia.You know shit.You don't know who you are because your country is a mix of Albanians and Bulgarians.Read Plutarch you idiot.To see if Macedonia is Hellenic.One more....THERE IS NOT AN INDEPENDANT ETHNICITY CALLED MACEDONIANS.READ SOME FACTS AND STOP BULLSHITING.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@jovoification An ethnicity is defined by the language,the alphabet,the names,the cultural elements and the ethics.Ancient Macedonians were speaking Greek,were writing in Greek,ALL their names were totally Greek and none of them Slavis as your language is,their architecture were Greek(Dorian Style),their whole culture was Greek.SO FUCKING SIMPLE.THEY WERE GREEKS.They were Dorians, like Spartans.Now you have a Slavic culture and you claim that you are Macedonian.I bet you are a pathetic idiot.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
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@jovoification An ethnicity is defined by the language,the alphabet,the names,the cultural elements and the ethics.Ancient Macedonians were speaking Greek,were writing in Greek,ALL their names were totally Greek and none of them Slavis as your language is,their architecture were Greek(Dorian Style),their whole culture was Greek.SO FUCKING SIMPLE.THEY WERE GREEKS.They were Dorians, like Spartans.Now you have a Slavic culture and you claim that you are Macedonian.I bet you are a pathetic idiot.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 just becaus my grandparents spoke greek does that make them greek well no because they never said they were greek
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@jovoification There are not any Slavs who are Macedonians for real.Those who speak the Bulgarian language and live in Vardarska,have no history at all while their country was founded in 1929 and their etholinguistic group is Slavic.And Slavs populated regions as Vardarska and Bulgaria at about 600AD.So you have to choose.Either you are Macedonian thererfore you are Greek either you are Vardarskan(wannabe Macedonian with no historical evidence) therefore you are Slav.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 i agree with most of what you said yes but im not greek im only makedonian and i do believe some of the macedonians are slavs not all though many still are makedonian
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@jovoification What I try to explain you is that Macedonians are not a seperate ethnicity.There is not any ethnicity anywhere which is called Macedonians.Macedonia was always part of Hellas.In antiquity and modern times as well.It was just a Greek kingdom.If you are Macedonian therefore you are Greek.Is like you say that you are Bavarian but not German or from Toscana but not Italian.It makes no sense and it's impossible.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 even though we makedonians yes even some today do speak greek have greek names and greek culture this dosent mean makedonia is greek at all you dont understand when a real makedonian speaks its a much different dialect anyway many greeks wouldnt understand many words
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@jovoification This is just ridiculous.Tell me.Do you use the Cyrilic alphabet?Can you speak with a Serb or a Bulgarian in another language?? If you can then you are Slav.If you cannot then you speak Greek and you are Greek therefore you are Macedonian.Simple things.Your words make no sense.If you have the characteristics that I refered then you are Slav.Your country Vardarska, is a country populated ONLY by Slavs that have no idea about history.They are Slavs who came here 1000 after Alexander.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@jovoification Real Macedonians are Greek.And we speak Modern Greek.For me to understand an Ancient Macedonian inscription which is written in the Attic Dialect is as hard as to read an Athenian inscription which is written in Attic Dialect as well.Macedonians are Greeks.And all it's history is Greek.Philippos took place in the Olympic Games.Alexander prayed in Troy.The house of Greek gods was located in Macedonia.Philippos was chosen ruler of Greece.Alexander spread the Greek civilization.
antipropagandist2 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 although this truely dosent mind me if they want to be makedonians they can be its not always about blood its about patriotism i seriousley dont mind slavs calling themselves makedonians its a beneifit for me and other makedonians
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 slavs have slav names slavs speak a slav language or dialect nothing that is not me although you are just saying this because you dont respect my opinion this makes you stupid im 100% sure im not a slav and like i said yes i dont believe makedonia is greek thats my opinion because i am a makedonian i do believe that many that say they are makedonians really arnt because of how they look just by appearance i can tell who are the slavs and who are the makedons
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 my family never spoke slav what maks me a slav my name isnt slav my culture isnt slav where im from isnt slav so tell me then how am i a alv tell me
jovoification 2 weeks ago
@antipropagandist2 im not slav im not even from vardarska makedonia so what the fuk can you possibly be telling me if im as you say a slav then that makes you are slav end of story its obvious if my blood is from thessaloniki and im as you say am a slav then its simple you must be slavic too
jovoification 3 weeks ago
yeh i saw a poster saying theseloniki fuking dumb greeks my grandma is from there and my grandfather was originally from pella they think completely opposite let me make this clear to all greeks MACEDONIA WAS NEVER GREEK AND WILL NEVER BE GREEK MY FAMILY IS ACTUALLY FROM GREECE ALTHOUGH IT WILL ALWAYS BE MACEDONIA AND THEY WILL NEVER BE GREEK OR CALL THEMSELVES GREEK, IF ANYONE BELIEVES GREECE THEN YOUR AN IDIOT THEY ARE LIERS AND TWO FACED IDIOTS YUGOSLAVS ARE MY BROTHERS MACEDONIA FOREVER
jovoification 2 months ago
FUCK SKOPJAN SLAVOBULGARIAN GYPSYS!!!!!!!!!!! MACEDONIA = GREEK
artemi25 3 months ago
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filossszzz 4 months ago
you are the only monkeys in the world that will protest against the basic human rights of another people and country. Guess what? Now you don't have enough money to pay for bread or electricity, thanks for wasting your time and money idiots! And since you're all praying in Macedonian Orthodox churches built by Macedonians, you're all going to hell!
TheGoose31 5 months ago
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DO NOT TOUCH OUR SACRED COUNTRY!...BARBARIANS!!!!
nixter888 5 months ago
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@Ultrass123 i want translation for 10 seconds to know why Bulgaria Serbia and Romania are mentioned
martinlisitsata 7 months ago
Μπράβο παιδιά!Συγχαρητήρια σε όσους πήγαν εκεί και υπερασπίστηκαν την εθνική ταυτότητα τους που κάπιοι ανιστόρητοι και ανόητοι θέλουν να κλέψουν.Μπράβο στον τότε Δήμαρχο,Δυστηχώς η Ελλάδα έχει αμερικανοποιηθεί και αμα γινόταν κάποια τέτοια διαδήλωση φέτος θα πήγαιναν πολύ λιγότεροι,όμως πότε δεν το βάζουμε κάτω,ποτέ δεν θα υποδουλωθεί το Ελληνικό πνεύμα,συνεχίστε τον αγώνα μπράβο!
Ultrass123 7 months ago 2
i want exact translation @Ultrass123
martinlisitsata 7 months ago
@martinlisitsata Translation of all the video?man that will take time...
Ultrass123 7 months ago
@Ultrass123 yes
martinlisitsata 7 months ago
@Ultrass123 If Vardar is Bulgarian how Macedonia is Greek or you speak of ancient Macedonia
martinlisitsata 7 months ago
@martinlisitsata I speak of Ancient Macedonia mate,and Macedonia of Greece,this Macedonia that the people of Vardaska wants to steal from us,but never,are you from Bulgaria?
Ultrass123 7 months ago
Μπραβο στον τοτε Δημαρχο
21parat 8 months ago
He said something about Bulgaria someone to translate
martinlisitsata 8 months ago
@martinlisitsata Τhat in Vardaska,many bulgarians live there,and vardaska is bulgarian so macedonia is HELLAS!
Ultrass123 7 months ago
U STUPID SKOPJE PEOPLE U ARE NOT MACEDONS. IF U ARE MACEDONS WHY DONT U SPEAK GREEK? THEN WHY DID ALEXANDER THE GREAT SPOKE GREEK?! WHY? u suck monkeydonians
GiannicTheGod 8 months ago
Greeks are very interesting.
You are always very aggressive whatever the truth is when you think that you a stronger. But guess what, you a not stronger. Because GOD DEFEND MACEDONIA. Didn't you realize that in past 20 years.
Macedonia survived with God help even with several much stronger enemies.
sardaukar222 9 months ago
we are more than you we are 12.000.000 . you are 2.000.000 if you want our name come and get it
gipas21 9 months ago
fuck you bastard fyromonkeys . suck our cocks
gipas21 9 months ago
NAZII GREEK HALLASSES !
UNITED MACEDONIA !
macedonia for the macedonians !
thegreataleksandar 9 months ago
Animation for MonkeyDonians!
/watch?v=qSuEfi4NX5I
macedonianimation 9 months ago
NAZI GREEK!!!!!!!!
slakinl 9 months ago
greeks can only suck Macedonians cocks!
Pancirr 10 months ago
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Pancirr 10 months ago
Proud to be Macedonian! The rest of the Greeks don't have our spirit...Maybe Cretans only....
Vardaska is a Slavic country and they should be proud of it. Peace.
mpogias13 11 months ago
Viva Macedonia..FUCK stupid and bankrot Hell-Ass
external986 1 year ago
Another smart move by a young country. Protest against Greece, the country that is your #1 investor and #2 trading partner. What's next? Putting your d*cks in a moving fan?
trisnna9801 1 year ago
Where were u motherfuckers till 1992?Socialist Republic of Macedonia is from 1945,or as we all know part of Yugoslavia.Fucktard Greek asses,u cant be Greek and Macedonian also.Macedonia to Macedonians.Fuck you!!!If u create a state called Macedonia,then come and talk shit,until then suck Greece dick.
KillahTrax 1 year ago
this guy speech like a Hitler lol
Hemanguy23 1 year ago
This video is 1992..... you see your history with Macedonia does not go back very far...
Macedonia is for the Macedonians ... Not "greece" Not "hellass" Not "greeks".
Macedonia is Macedonian and we are called "Republic of Macedonia"
Solun will be the capital of Macedonia again.
makedoncheto 1 year ago
@makedoncheto
unblock be you stupid bitch...but i guess you dont know what democracy is!
ps: Thessaloniki IS the capital of Macedonia!!!!!
minottauruss 1 year ago
macedonia is not part of hellass
VardarPirinEgej 1 year ago
Bravo patriwtes!!!!!makedonia GH ELLHNIKH!!!!MACEDONIA IS THE HEART OF GREECE!!!!
Iliasjem7 1 year ago 2
! Den eistai ELLINES re ZWOA ! edo eistai apo 1923 ! torkosporoi !
istoriify 1 year ago
@istoriify της μαμας . σου το μουνακι κωλοπουστα.ελα εδω πανω να σου δειξω τι τουρκοσπορος ειμαι γαμιολα.
4bubas 1 year ago
MESSAGE FOR MONKYDONIANS AND ALBANIANS: YES BASTARDS, WE ARE FASCISTS AND WE DRINK UR MONGOL BLOOD, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP!!! IN THIS AREA ONLY WE CAN SPEAK!!!! LONG LIVE HELLAS, HELLAS OR DEATH!!!
GREEKFIGHTER100 1 year ago
MAKEDONIA WAS GREEK AND WILL REMAIN!!! NEVER SOMEONE ELSE!!!
EVEN HALF OF FYROM IS GREEK , AND WE WILL BACK THAT LAND!!!!!
Pella01 1 year ago
Macedonia is in Greece
TheSerbia4life 1 year ago
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There is an inscripted stone in the entrance of government building in Skopje for the pride of Ancient Macedonians :
ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑΡΧΩΝ ΤΩΝ ΝΑΩΝ ΤΗ ΠΑΤΡΙΔΙ ΣΥΝ ΠΑΝΤΙ ΤΩ ΚΟΣΜΩ ΤΩ ΘΚΤ' ΕΤΕΙ
I m sure it will be easy for skopians to translate the language of their suposed ancestors lolski
hoplitespao 1 year ago
macedonia a gli macedoni
SASKO71 1 year ago
As a proof of non-Greekness of the Macedonians is Greece, itself and its writers and historians who with one voice concluded that Macedonians were foreigner to Greeks as were Ilyrians, Thracians, Persians, Egyptians, etc. All of them labeled as 'Barbarian' (Demostenes, Thrasymacus). The list of ancients regarding Macedonians non-Greeknes is endless: Plutarch, Q.Rufius, Arian, Diodor of Sicul, Strabo, Ephor, Justin, Ptolemy, Polybius, etc, etc.
luboteni 2 years ago
@luboteni
whatever you say...i know my history.thracians were greeks ,too.they wasnt barbarians.All world knows it.and before 1991..before FYROMS indipendness macedonian history...was Greek history.everyone knows it.somethind strage will happen again in balcans for sure.why kosovo want to be indipendet,too??why usa made this military camp in kossovo???why greece has so big oil ...gold ..and uranium resurces and nobody uses it???
eurohome 2 years ago
@eurohome
all these are politics.all this isnt about a name.its about who will have the influence in balkans.and the balkans resurces.and after 3000 years of accient macedonia..nobody in the area is a real macedonian.But i belive greece has the most right to use this history.because in accient times as i sayed macedonians were a greeek tribe..like spartans korithians...athinians and other tribes.
eurohome 2 years ago
@eurohome
You seem to ignore all of my proofs showed into my comments. Well, my goal is not to convince you but to show that there is also an another version, different from yours.
Anyway, the biggest enemy of Balkan countries all over times, is USA.
luboteni 2 years ago
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@luboteni
the ancient Macedonians speak a Greek dialect the Koine-Greek very similar to Attic-Ionic (speaking by the Greek tribes of the Athenians and Ionians--->in minor Asia "today Turkey"). go and ask professors from great universities if you want objective and true opinion. i lived in different countries(GERMANY,ITALY,SWITZERLAND) and i read their history books the last years
Pegasos4 1 year ago
you say greek names are not grek themostenes dimos sthenos man you are a nerd idiot go kill yourself before we come there and fak you up
nik303ful 2 years ago
@luboteni
WE on the contrary shall fight for
GREECE, and our hearts will be in it.
As for our FOREIGN troops —Thracians, Paeonians, Illyrians,
Agrianes — they are the best and stoutest soldiers
Arrian (The Campaigns of Alexander) Alexander talking to the troops before the battle. Book 2-7 Penguin Classics. Page 112. Translation by Aubrey De Seliucourt
Alexander sais you are A LIAR
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2005defender 1 year ago
@luboteni trying to wewrite history are you even if what you say is true greece have a stronger claim then macedonia,and your a complete fool cos it has proven to be greek by thousands of historians and anthropoligist throught the world even the primeminister of macedonia back in the 90'd admitted macedonia is a greek region
and your a idiot cos the ancient writers actually wrote about macedonia is part of greece
thepaulypaul1 11 months ago
Come here in Macedonia , the Republic of Macedonia , if you fell like Macedonian's , don't stay in you'r poor contry Greece , you are near economic colapse i feel sorry for you GAYREEKS
FrenkieWilde 2 years ago
@FrenkieWilde
you are FYROM.Nothing more
eurohome 2 years ago
A clear example of Primitive chauvinism! This man who is speaking toward Greeks does not differ much from Hitler or Musolini. Greece is following a policy of 'purification' and 'hellenization' of everything spreading its propaganda in every pore of life even manipulating with T-shirts, cigaretts, Taxi-companies, Airport, female panties, female corsages with pathetic motto: Macedonia is Greek'!!!
Macedonia was never Greek.
Macedonia was Illyrian!
luboteni 2 years ago
@luboteni
do you understand greek???.how can you say he's like hitler??you dont know what he says.You are FYROM nothng more.
eurohome 2 years ago
@eurohome
Well...I compared him with Hitler because he used propaganda (distorting facts) in order to manipulate peoples with faking notions like ancient Macedonia. Ancient Macedonia isn't proper of Greeks or SlavoMacedonians. Two sides are entirely wrong. Macedonia belongs to the Illyrian chapters of history.
luboteni 2 years ago
@luboteni
accient Macedonians spoke and write greek...had the same greek gods like all other greek tribes...macedonians joned the olympic games... something that eyryone who wasnt greek couldnt join ...on every macedonian coin there are greek words that i can understand...you not....the teacher of alexander the great was aristoteles....who was greek...so ...what proof do you have that macedonans wasnt greeks???
eurohome 2 years ago
@eurohome
We are not sure if Macedonians spoke Greek because there is no literary record of language of the Macedonians. Macedonians were not joined in the Olympic games but some Macedonian kings (Alexander I, Philip II). Tell me another Macedonian king who participated in those games?
Even it was said by Herodotus that Scythians claim descent from Herakles but no one has thought Scythians as Greek. In all Illyrian coins are found Greek words, but noone consider Illyrians as Greeks.
luboteni 2 years ago
really? lol get your dna checked: your bulgarian you peasant live with it, Macedonia was is and allways will be Greek
PavlosDionysus 2 years ago
IMOUNA KAI EGO EKEI!!!!!
constantinos007 2 years ago
@kojPRVpocna wake up.....we are here before you....you are slavs you cant be makedonians...
atomo1984 2 years ago
Ιστορικές στιγμές
Florinamak 2 years ago
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Macedonia for macedonians!
United Macedonia 2013, and our celebreting will be in that square,bacause Solun belongs to macedonians and is not greek!
makstar4ever 2 years ago
What's the significance of 2013? If you're talking about the Treaty of Bucharest, you clearly have no concept of the principle of continuity in international law. Besides, there was no "Macedonia" in 1913, was there? If the treaty does "expire", Macedonia will revert to Ottoman rule. ;)
MAKEDANOS 2 years ago
@makstar4ever
learn history MALAKA!!!
eurohome 2 years ago
Slavs must DIE
HISTORY THIEVES
MAKEDONIA IS PART OF GREECE
THOUSANDS YEARS NOW
NEVER TATARO-Slavic
ThracianRhodope 2 years ago 2
GATREEEEKKKK
FrenkieWilde 2 years ago
MACEDONIA IS MACEDONIA
NOT SKOPJE
viva Hellas
AntiAlbania 2 years ago 7
tha gamiso ta skopia me mia atomiki vomva.
hugorocky 2 years ago 4
fuck vardaske long live great greece makedonia,monkeys in vardaska we will kill you all bastards....
cuts666 2 years ago 4
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solun e makedonija a vieste cigani grcki pederi malaga
kucicanec 2 years ago
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I can tell this Egiptians Jew mix is very scared.The first democracy ..and so scared.god is watching we are back in action .
alexander1053 2 years ago
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being a Hellene is just an idea, not ethnicity.
massivedonia 2 years ago
η αλήθεια είναι ότι πάει καιρός που αδρανούμε....
Macedonia, land of great Hellenes!!!!
την στήριξη μας από Κύπρο, αδέρφια
125mimis 2 years ago 3
Long Live Hellas !!
MariusChivu83 2 years ago
macedonia to macedonians!
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VIVA thessaloniki-ΦΑΚ skopia!!!!!
drmack70 2 years ago 5
How can people from FYROM claim that they are macedonians when "macedonia" is a Greek word, Alexander (Alexandros) is a Greek word, Filippos (father of Alexander) is a Greek word and Eastern Europe can understand them when people from FYROM speak their so called to be Unique Macedonian Language (Slavic - Bulgarian).
makedonjia 2 years ago 4
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MACEDONIA IS HELLAS - NOOOOOOT
DzidzoMACEDONIA 2 years ago
"MACEDONIA is of course part of HELLAS"
said 2000 YEARS ago by the ancient geographer Strabon.! so what forget all that Tito as teached u!
MACEDONIAisHELLAS 2 years ago
@MACEDONIAisHELLAS And what did Aristotel say ?? You forgot greek bastards !!!
makedonskilav 1 year ago
dynataaaaaaaaaaaaaa
OI MAKEDONES IMASTE EMIs............CANT TOUCH THIS son of a bitCH
paokara707 3 years ago 10
ΑΥΤΟ ΦΟΒΟΥΝΤΕ...ΑΥΤΟ ΠΟΥ ΒΛΕΠΕΤΕ ΣΤΗΝ ΟΘΟΝΗ ΣΑΣ...και εαν χρειαστεί θα μας βρούν μπροστά τους....ΞΑΝΑ....
ΟΙ ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΕΣ ΕΙΜΑΣΤΕ ΕΜΕΙΣ !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
makedonas82 3 years ago 16
Kala to 1992 htan h thleorash aspromaurh?
johnnaraspanathas 3 years ago
salute makedonia
salute greece,,!!
kozani07 3 years ago 5
I hope this gets sorted out lol
alboshqipe 3 years ago
Αν και ημουν εφτα ετων το θυμαμαι που ειχα παει με τους γονεις μου.Δεν εχω ξαναδει τοσο κοσμο συγκεντρωμενο στη ζωη μου.
Επι ευκαιρειας "πειτε την" σε εναν στο καναλι μου που το παιζει Μακεδονας!
(οχι βρυσιες ομως,μονο επιχειρηματα)
KilkisGirlMACEDONIA 3 years ago
5*****
sthlmdiabolo 3 years ago
Μπράβο αδελφέ που το ανέβασες!
Ο δήμαρχος είπε: "ΔΕΝ είναι αντικείμενο συναλλαγής η ιστορία, ΔΕΝ είναι αντικείμενο συναλλαγής η εθνική ταυτότητα, ΔΕΝ χαρίζεται, ΟΥΤΕ χρησιμοποιείται, ΔΕΝ είναι αντικείμενο κλοπής και η ταυτότητα αυτή ανήκει σε όλους εμάς τους έλληνας."
gregl87 3 years ago
ας το καταλάβουν καλά οι οβραιοαμερικανόδουλοι πολιτικάντηδες που ξεπουλάν τη μακεδονία μας γιατί δε θα το επιτρέψουμε!
gregl87 3 years ago
τι είναι όλος αυτός ο κόσμος στους δρόμους της θεσσαλονίκης? φασίστες? Είναι ΠΕΡΗΦΑΝΟΙ ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ που και σήμερα πρέπει μαζικά να πολεμήσουν την προπαγάνδα των μαϊμουδώνων και των κέντρων που τους υποστηρίζουν εντός και εκτός Ελλάδας.
ΜΙΑ είναι η μακεδονία και ΕΛΛΗΝΙΚΗ!
gregl87 3 years ago 3
Ωραιο λογο ειχε βγαλει ο Κοσμοπουλος!
Ευχαριστουμε για το υπεροχο βιντεο!
kostasthess81 3 years ago 2