RetroBites: Fascist Oswald Mosley

[cooeypig]

Hitler didn't attack " all Jews", as there was still 5000 Jews living in Berlin at the end of the war getting food ration cards.

[hagbard72]

He's right about many of the things he says here.

[KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

He's certainly a better Fascist than Hitler, but still more edits should be made to his policies. I'm all for multiculturalism AND mixed-races, but am still very much a Fascist.

[compactdisk2]

@KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva Well then, unless you've got a garbled definition of fascism, you're probably an asshole. Anyone that believes military leaders are better suited to run a country, and that violence is a reasonable first option for dealing with dissent seems to fundamentally violate pretty much any reasonable definition of ethical behaviour. Do you actually believe that a one-party state is ideal? Improvement and evolution of ideas requires dissent. Outlawing it is despicable,

[KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

@compactdisk2 Any political system should be adapted. Mosley here stated he was against suppressing dissenting opinions, which I know is a difficult practice for a Dictatorship.

The BUF evolved to incorporate more Democratic proceedings in their policy, while holding true to the strength in Authoritarianism: The Government needs power. Too often are Bills held up by Democratic process not because they are bad, but because of partisanship.

Just like the Marxists, this may seem...

[KAPTAINmORGANnWo4eva]

@compactdisk2 ...Like an unobtainable ideal, but Simon Bolivar and Robert Borden showed us that absolute power can be wielded fairly and in the interest of what's best for the people.

I'm also a proponent of striving for Canadian Autarchy and simultaneously allowing somewhat free enterprise, but with very strict national regulation.

Other Political Philosophies have evolved, why can't Fascism?

[cooeypig]

@compactdisk2 Having only one party in Germany at the time of Hitler was essential, because it was impossible to rule the country without a coalition with the Communist Party. The communists, as you know, killed 30-60 million of their own people in Russia.

[MrBlurtit]

All he was doing was trying to stir up things between the blacks and whites FUCK THE BASTARD

[DerBlitzStag]

People should read the transcript of the entire firing line interview, in which Mosley most definitely does have regrets.

[dudemantwo]

The Jews...were having a bad dime...a bad time...in Germany...

What an ass...

He looks like Julius Streicher...

[marcusantonius90]

@dudemantwo Go and fuck off somewhere else instead of wasting your time where you are not wanted. Asshole.

[dudemantwo]

marcus...I care what you think?

eat shit...

[dudemantwo]

marcus...says Stalin was Jewish...

Stalin defeated Hitler...Stalin made Hitler into his bitch...for that Stalin deserves a medal...

Marcus...eat shit...

Marcus loves spotted dick...

[Lisarata]

My gosh. One man has a bone to pick with a whole religion of people. Says he's not racist but that they have to be put down for causing trouble for Germany. Set up a false logic and then fight for it. Great.

[TerrySleeper]

An enjoyable twit.

And a liar.

10/10 for entertainment.

[Anekantavad]

I'm very familiar with Mr Mosley, and I agree that he has been demonized, spat upon and generally vilified. But just because you are unfairly criticized doesn't make you a good person.

In spite of his protestations to the contrary, My Mosley's speeches show him as an anti-semite, a racist, and an advocate of brute force.

Intelligent though he may have been, his vision of the world is not mine, and I am glad we are rid of his ilk.

[rhodri24]

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[rhodri24]

never got sorted?

[zthetha]

The Jews did want this war - that's why the funded Hitler - to weaken Europe and allow their sneaky, illegal and immoral return to what they would have us believe is the holy land

[dudemantwo]

zthetha...did you teach under John Kenneth Galbraith...

You just farted your anti-Semitic thoughts...you are a stupid...ass...Fuck you...and go to hell...

I kick you out of my county...swine...

[Tautbadger]

"The Jews were having a bad... time in Germany."

I lol'd. What a great understatement. :D

[km5012]

too bad many of the claims are lies

[dagmar1991]

At 1:22 he states that he believes in preserving "our own race" and at 1:30 in "... not mixing our own stock ..."

I do not wish to appear unpleasant, but would it be frightfully forward of me to ask as to which "race" and whose "stock" is he referring to? With all due respect the old gentleman looks conspicuously Jewish himself - hardly the fair-skinned, blond, blue-eyed Aryan.

Any comments?

[loki123]

@dagmar1991 What about him looks Jewish Dagmar?

[CoffeeWivCake]

Hitler wanna be-sad as fuck

[TerrySleeper]

On Mosley:

"A terifically silly man". - Clive James.

[KingKobra786]

fuk oswald mosley, the nazi scum and fuk all u nazi bastards who deny the holocost

[CrankCase08]

He was correct. The only rights we have are those that can be taken away from us by the ruling elite. We are in fact still serfs and peasants.

We have now been passed over to the EU Soviet Superstate and were not even consulted. Millions of Immigrants were allowed in to undercut wages and for the imposition of multiculturalism, but we weren't consulted. Britain invaded Iraq and Afghanistan on a lie, and we were never consulted. At general elections the main parties are essentially similar.

[NaturalBornHedonist]

Mosley's nose looks very semitic!!!

[erinjohn11]

very intelligent man.

[WhiteUnity14]

I wont be back to I wont read any lunatic left wing multi racial replies.

Preserving race is the key to survival for ALL races and the sooner people realize that the most racist element in our lives is multiculturalism.

To accept it means to undo all the work done by nature and evolution, we can debate if we are one being but there is no debate if we are the same because we are NOT

Race mixing will kill all cultures, heritage, tradition , is that not Racism at the highest level?

[NotJeni]

the Holocaust: a bad time in Germany

[WhiteUnity14]

The only Holocaust i recall was Dresden.

If you want to debate me on that your welcome. Definition Holocaust = Consumed by fire!

If 6 million Jews were gassed then that technically is not a Holocaust.

Another Holocaust was the Hiroshima bombing, but the only holocaust in Germany was Dresden raids which spared not a soul.

It dropped dragon balls of fire on men, women and children, and even thousands of wounded soldiers.

Open your eyes and research history, before long you find the truth.

[NotJeni]

I do not understand why you are trying to argue with my comment, which was that Oswald Mosley's understatement is hilarious.

Nitpicking definitions proves nothing, plus you're wrong. The Holocaust (capital h) and holocaust (lowercase h) do not mean the same thing.

P.S. Kurt Vonnegut survived Dresden. And all he got was this stupid t-shirt.

[sylviaphryne]

Every German knew what was happening in Germany long before WW2. There is nothing to be said that could "sanitise" the Mosley's beliefs. The Mosleys were well up to date as regards the persecution of the Jews in Germany. Unity, Diana's sister, was taken to view the house which Hitler made available for her and discussed in front of the Jewish owners how she would have liked it altered - as though the owners were not there. The owners were all taken to concentration camps within days.

[peppermintjohn666]

British people as you might imagine were also having a bad time in germany but it was felt this was not quite enough to justify a war which would kill 70 million people. The BUF was not the NSDAP, they did not have a racial policy and they did not have a jewish policy so thats the end of that.

[tanjatanya]

The British people's democratically elected government felt that anything posing a threat to the British Empire was worth warring against.

What kind of policy did motivate the BUF lot to organise the rallies in the East End of London? To convey a message of peace perhaps?

[peppermintjohn666]

Yes infact. At that time the socialist/ communist parties were campaigning for a war with germany, ontil the nazi-soviet pact of course. The BUF marched through the east end to demostrate their power against their opponents, the BUF was significantly larger than the communist party. The imprisonment of oswald mosley was a condition of the labour party joining the coalition government who of course lost the 1935 election. 'democracy'.

How was the empire 'threatened' that is just ridiculous.

[paulwyrd]

Yes, the imperialists didn't want anyone, be they British or a 'subject of the Empire' to question their authority.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought Churchill had condoned the killing of Kurds or Iraqis when they wanted their freedom.

I think that says a lot about the democracy of the British Empire.

[tanjatanya]

paulwyrd - Indeed! But the British Empire was not a shining example of democracy. Churchill understood Democracy in terms fo Pax Britannica - i.e. as in Augustan Rome: You could have peace and freedom only as a Roman Citizen. At its worst as Bush's administration understood it: "... with us or against us" - i.e. "There is only one kind of Democracy and that is ours. We therefore dictate the terms".

However the democratic system is still evolving. We are better off today than what we were then!

[paulwyrd]

Hi Tanja,

I don't think Boudicca or Caratacus (two British tribal leaders) would agree that we're better off now than we were then! :)

Wishing you a cool Yule!

[tanjatanya]

Peppermintjohn666:- So, you are inclined to believe that those persons were not sent to a camp and that the incident was just made up.

Very interesting. An old English fascist lady, living in Paris that we used to know, was inclined to believe that Kristallnacht (early November 1938) was a sheer fabrication to discredit the Führer and his jolly lot! I also met a US marine major taking a course at my college who is inclined to believe that the Abu Ghraib fiasco was antisemitic propaganda.

[tanjatanya]

Peppermitjohn666 - What do you mean by "biatch" in your last sentence?

[euridike88]

Tanja - I think that by "biatch" he means "bitch" - a female dog.

Such are the moral values of this sub-culture!

In other words: if you have different views to theirs, then you must be a dog. It is a matter of intellect!

[dagmar1991]

Sir, although I do not claim to share your knowledge in words of such nature, or have any confrontational experience, according to our slang dictionary the word means just that.

Furthermore, this is not a confrontation! Sorry you see it as such!

We are all exchanging views. The exercise shouldn't be approached in a spirit of "winning" or "losing" whether "by default" or otherwise.

As for JFK, although one of our most endearing Presidents, his English at times was as bad as his German.

[324wilson]

@sylviaphryne You are very much correct. And Unity Mitford even made a speech in Germany in which she said that Jews should be persecuted. Many members of the Mitford Family were anti-semitic and pro-Nazi, probably with the exception of Lord Redesdale (who was British patriot above all) and the youngest of Mitford sister, Deborah (today known as the Duchess of Devonshire).

[EmaJack99]

fuck u nazi.i recall the shithead hitler

[stuka1991]

you are right comrade

holocaust is a jewish lie. they weren't 6 milions. they were slighty 1 milion. every country had concentration camps, not to mention the russian gulag that killed a lot more.

[ssg04c]

"...which spared not a soul," huh? You ever read a book called Slaughterhouse Five, which was written by a notable survivor or the Dresden firestorm?

Also, incinerating thousands of gassed-to-death corpses in big ovens could be seen as consumption by fire.

[rhodri24]

jews stated world war 2? so all jews are in on the conspiracy 2 destroy germany?....and he's supposed 2 b not anti-semitic?

hey os, go fuk urself.

[Slegarthoth]

rhodri24

Learn to write and spell. You come across as a *complete* retard.

[Slegarthoth]

Amazon:

"Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life "

"The Global Bell Curve: Race, IQ, and Inequality Worldwide"

Google

"HIV/AIDS and African Americans"

There is info on race based crime stats in USA, educational performance, affirmative action ect which is equally damning.

Everything you believe is false, because the information is hidden and then banned for political reasons.

[gingerpeerless]

Slegaroth you're also guilty of your own doubespeak, to be racially selective was a fascist policy and is correctly illegal.

In the UK it is not illegal to question immigration only the incirement to violence or direct action against immigrants.

This is nonsense anyway, we all have shared ancestory if you go back far enough. Watch the "Made in Britain" program where numerous anti immigrant English found out their ancestors themselves had beeen immigrants 3 or 4 generations before.

[resnoex1]

Brilliant Man!!!

God bless Sir Oswald

[chikinman08]

And his son keeps the legend living on! Stupid man.

[abola2121]

0:29 - 0:33 Banking interests perhaps? (i.e. Rothchilds)

[MaryOMackie]

concentration camps and losing liberties..getting rid of habeas corpus...that's where fascism ends up.

RIP America.

[marklavar]

Mosley - a genius! What a giant of a man compared to the straw men we have today.

[AntagonistMusic]

Yes!

[SimulacronX]

Mosley is a stupid cunt, nothing else, pure trash

[TerrySleeper]

Right-on, SimulacronX!

Couldn't have put it better myself.

[heebyjeebus]

Question for pro-Mosley people - do you agree with his position regarding the irreconciliability of democracy with the withdrawal of habeas corpus and imprisonment without trial? If you do, then presumably you respect the rights of Muslims detained at Guantanamo? If you do not, then I suggest you pick another idol to worship. comments?

[marklavar]

Fuck democracy - we don't need it.

[heebyjeebus]

Fair enough - but what I'm asking is whether you consider it just for Mosley to have been imprisoned without trial and to no longer have the right to free speech.

Basically, I wanted to know if those whose ideology (fascism) do not regard political rights to be important disagree with the treatment of fascists when the shoe is on the other foot.

You may think capitalist demcracy is less preferable to your regime of choice, but can yours deliver these political and social freedoms?

[Slegarthoth]

heebyjeebus

I'm sure you are aware that being right wing does not make you a fascist.

The biggest fascists in Europe right now are the jewish controlled left wing. Question the Holocaust? Go to jail. Question immigration? Sued till your party is shut down. Get fired from your job. Want to be racially selective? Go to jail.

Freedom in democracy is a complete illusion when it is held hostage by the jewish media and their useful white idiots.

[gingerpeerless]

Slegaroth you're also guilty of your own doubespeak, to be racially selective was a fascist policy and is correctly illegal.

In the UK it is not illegal to question immigration only the incitement of violence or direct action against immigrants.

This is nonsense anyway, we all have shared ancestory if you go back far enough. Watch the "Made in Britain" program where numerous anti immigrant English found out their ancestors themselves had beeen immigrants 3 or 4 generations before...

[Slegarthoth]

>be racially selective was a fascist policy and is correctly illegal.

Crime statistics show that to be a lie. Third world lack of development show that to be a lie. Average racial IQ shows that to be a lie.

>we all have shared ancestory if you go back far enough.

Dogs have a shared ancestry, but which would you trust around your children? A Pitbull or a Labrador? We also have a shared ancestry with every animal on the planet.

[rhodri24]

average racial iq? so y then does a complete fukin retard like u, and me on the other hand belong to the same race?

PPl ( if i can call u that ) make me ashamed of my race.

[Slegarthoth]

rhodri24

White liberals are brainwashed to be ashamed of themselves and that's why they do drugs, don't have children and commit suicide. Its bad for our numbers in the short term, but good in that our weaker members are selecting themselves out of the gene pool.

As for Average Racial IQ, it is a real phenomena that explains *everything*.

Amazon:

"The Global Bell Curve: Race, IQ, and Inequality Worldwide"

"Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life"

[Slegarthoth]

Despite the obvious race differences, people have the right to their own culture and identity. Cultural Marxism is about destroying ethnic identity and culture and is not only fascism, it is genocide.

Ask yourself what the Pakistanis would do if 10s of millions of whites or blacks were crossing the border into their country and their government was giving them the right to vote and eventually take over their government.

Do you think they would take it? If you answer yes, you are a liar.

[dagmar1991]

Heebyjeebus - Regarding whether it was just for Mosley to be interned during the war:

Certainly the conditions were most humane. He had daily deliveries from Fortnum and Harrods.

Had he been in Germany, and dared to speak against the regime he would have shared the fate of Sophie Scholl and her brother.

[lame1excuse]

do you have a better idea. all other previous forms of government have failed.

[Patriot1423]

Mosley - Great British Leader!!!!

[aliayed]

Sir Oswald Mosley - Greatest Polititian in the history of the UK... May he rest in peace

[jude13]

Mosley - what a prick.

[marklavar]

You are the prick. And mentally obtuse, too.

[jebbofwessex]

Traitor? TerrySleeper shows his ignorance in his hateful comments about the greatest Briton of the 20th century. The first two casulties of World War 2, RAF aircrew George Brocking and Ken Day, were Mosley Blackshirts who died on the second day of war attacking the German fleet.

The very first of the armada of little ships that arrived at Dunkirk to rescue British troops from the beaches was sailed over by Eric Piercy and Colin Dick, also Blackshirts. Mosley wasn't a traitor, he was a Patriot.

[Counterrevolutionite]

The Red Question is the central concern of our times, in regards to securing our future in our own lands. The downside of winning the Cold War without firing bullets; there was no great purge of reds who tried to destroy our countries from within throughout that period & continue to do so today, after slithering off into "social democratic" poses. Trying to destroy our peoples by other means (abortion, 3rd world immigration, cultural Marxism, moral relativism, multiculturalism). Purge ALL reds.

[TerrySleeper]

Mealy-mouthed anti-Semite.

Mosley was financed by the Nazis and was a Nazi fellow-traveller.

This is a man - no, a worm - wriggling on the hook.

His incarceration during WW2 was in very comfortable circumstances, with servants and so on. He was lucky not to be shot as a traitor.

Mosley-what a sad joke!

[Mazdak1]

Wow, Mosley was spot on here with his analysis of Democracy.

[TerrySleeper]

Hilarious!

What a great comedian.

[rocketshipstud2]

there are many flavors of fascism and the very best form is sir oswald 'tom' mosley and the british union of fascists! the greatest englishman in history!...a man so honest he was sent to jail for being anti-war in 1939...they also threw his innocent wife in female prison and 1000+ party members without charge or conviction! hail mosley!-milwaukee

[TerrySleeper]

Mosley - " A terrifically silly man". - Clive James.

[goplayupyourownend]

Max Mosley President of formular 1 is a real chip off the old block.

[zthetha]

I came across a 1st ed. his autobiography a few years back with his written dedication inside... fascinating read... the book's for sale now if anyone's interested.

[OnTheRazorsEdge]

Why?! I should keep a thing like that! If I had an arm and a leg to give for it, I jolly well would.

[aavallone]

Who's the one interviewing him?

[ehunter2]

Lets see where that wonderful liberal "tolerance" has gotten Britain shall we? 1. 1600 Mosques in Britain..financed by Saudi Arabia. 2. Demographic shift that will make whites and minority in their own country. 3. Marxist dogma hidden under guise of "multiculturalism" against which no one is allowed to protest..or be called "racist" 4.Rewriting of all British history to advance "progressive" Cultural Marxism 5. Financial collapse as minorities exploit British generosity

[OnTheRazorsEdge]

Your first point about Muslims. The thing is, they integrate very well - under Totalitarian regimes. I have always seen many parallels in Indian and British island culture and it is no surprise that they don't integrate here, when they hate our Indian brothers too.

I say British Island culture because India IS ours.

[melvert33]

You should open your mind a bit more and read up on world history. Human existence is a constant battlefield for supremacy be it individual, collective racial etc Throughout history humans have always slaughtered each other for some reason and always will.You are free in Britain, if you go and live in the likes of China, Burma and Iran you would be running back to Britain thanking god a place like this actuallly exists on this planet.

[ehunter2]

I am American of Scots ancestry. Iadmire England..traditional England immensely.

But how much longer under the present regime will England exist? This is a serious question. Every demographic projection shows whites in England will be a minority in the next generation. You can go through whole disricts of London and not see a Englishman or even hear English. Wake up...and fast.

[Jeansieguy]

Hi, I'm back from my video game.

So you are scared Brian? There's no proof of anything you're saying... you're just a bit scared of EVERYTHING... I like this bit, "You can go through whole dis[t]ricts of London and not see a[n] Englishman or even hear English. " Now come on Brian surely not?,

P.S. [I fixed up your typos for you... :)]

[ehunter2]

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[ehunter2]

Here is a new video game for you..its called GOOGLEIT. What you do is type in a phrase like oh "Saudi Funding Mosques"...then watch the magic happen as dozen of links like

1. Saudis build 8 million $mosque in LA

2. Saudi Islamic Bank funds mosque

building in UK

3. Boston Islamic Center construction blocked as Saudi connection tracked.

Problem is video games like this force you back into reality..when the kind you really like allow you to escape it.

[Jeansieguy]

Wow... what research.... it's gotta br true!

[ehunter2]

No Timmy its not research..its an invitation for you to do something for yourself..but then as someone that cant function without a babysitter such efforts arent likely to happen are they?

[Jeansieguy]

Do you live on Youtube Brian?

[ehunter2]

Stay on task little Timmy...stay on task...

[Jeansieguy]

Wow Brian. What other right wing nut jobs could you direct me to?

I want a really scared one, one who hates everyone...

[ehunter2]

Come now Timmy you promised to act like an adult and follow through on your own promises..remember? Instead you threw all your toys out of the playpen, called everyone names and went into a pout about big mean men scaring you.

We arent trying to be mean or scary Timmy....really we arent

[Jeansieguy]

1. Do you have any proof?

2. Britain since the beginning of time... you've been invaded by everyone and bred with the lot.

3. See 2.

4. See 2.

5. What proof do you have?.. Proof isn't paranoia... I must stress that.

[ehunter2]

What the hell are you talking about "proof"...heres all the proof you need.. go into any British town..look for the biggest, most expensive most ostentatious building and notice that its a

MOSQUE. Thats where your proof is..right before your self blinded eyes.

[Jeansieguy]

No again... you claim this is funded from the UAE or somewhere... Proof?... "Go into any British town... , the biggest most ostentatious building...", don't you think that sounds a little paranoid...???

My guess is you aren't happy with your life and relieve the tension by "kicking" the last off the boat...

[Jeansieguy]

Please also be aware... Mosley, was a Tory he was in the labour party... was part of your ruling class... he was an opportunist and after a bit of power. He certainly wouldn't have time for the likes of you.... grubby little working class prol...

[ehunter2]

Thats right Tim...he saw throught the Labour parties game of perpetual class warfare as a front for Marxism and an hideout for the mediocre of the Earth.. you arent one of them are you?

[Jeansieguy]

Timmy? Anyway.... you still haven't provided any proof for any of your claims. It's still paranoia... Mosley was a git...

[ehunter2]

back to your video games Timmy .

[ehunter2]

Sorry Timmy I dont have time to educate you. The source of funding is UAE and Saudi Arabia..and the TYPE of Islam being promoted is pure Saudi orthodox

Wahabbism. And the books, the literature and the Iman himself are all provided by Saudi Arabia. Or do you choose to believe Arab cabdrivers can raise 100 million pounds for land and construction out of their tips?

[joejjohnston]

karl marx would not agree that britain's current state of affairs is not a result of marxism or marxist policy. try reading up on his philosophy before making such ridiculous comparisons.

[ehunter2]

Classic Marxism was jettisoned a long time ago. The economics of Marx were dispproved by history..by the 40s and 50s

The whole movement evolved into "Cultural Marxism" where the West was attacked not on basis of economics but on a "racist"" and "sexist" culture.

One component was to champion third world countries and use them to undermine the West via mass immigration and dissolve Western Civ in that manner. Sound Familiar?

[Hochdorff]

The "economics of Marx" weren't disproved by history, because of the simple fact Marx himself never formulated any "economics". What Marx did was a "criticism of the political economy". It's a critique and not a positivistic approach to a "to-be" future.

[ehunter2]

Exactly...but the critique was of the economic situation of industrial man under the existing system A situation that Marx predicted would get worse and worse in a unvarying linear path until inevitable revolution happened. When history didnt take this path..and it turned out that Capitalism was distributing wealth more successfully than any other system the Marxist mindset scrambled to find some other means to express its terminal nihilism..and hence Cultural Marxism was born.

[ehunter2]

Whether it was "economics" as is taught

on chalkboards in present Universities or not..the emphasis on man as determined by economics was the same. The same deterministic nihilism. ..and when it failed to play out.. the same deterministic nihilism found "sexism", "racism" and "colonialism" as useful terms with which to paralyze minds.

[acpren]

Hm... Bush repealed the habeus corpus act...

[cpetcow]

he bad

[TheChicagoseven]

interesting

nice upload

researching