Gibbs is wrong (and he knows it, which is why he's having such a difficult time). The most durable solution to ending DADT is for a federal court to overturn it, as has happened. Any Act of Congress can be undone by a subsequent Act of Congress. Indeed, such a repeal of DADT proves my point.
When, Gibbs? When it's convenient for Obama? When he's re-elected in 2012? Assuming he will even be re-elected, that is.
In case you haven't noticed the Senate is completely dysfunctional with the Party of No filibustering everything that Democrats try to get passed. After mid-terms it will be even more dysfunctional. Then we have asshats like McCain who say he will absolutely do everything in his power to prevent DADT repeal. Good luck with that.
Obama's doing the right thing, people. The best way to end it is through repealing the law and it needs to get through the senate and onto the President's desk. His Justice Dep't has to appeal the federal judge so that the next judge can strike down the Justice Dep't's appeal, lending even more weight and cred and closure on that procedural front once and for all.
Just relax, it's in the process of ending, and the President is doing it right so that another President can't re-open it.
@SpySlowhands Get stuff through the Senate? Have you been paying attention to politics at all in the past year? Nothing is getting through the Senate. How long did a severely dumbed down Health Care take to pass? The Defense Authorization bill was filibustered by Republicans for the first time in fifty years. And they're in the minority. After mid-terms where a Republican takeover might be possible getting DADT repeal through the Senate will be a pipe dream. All we're hearing are excuses.
@SpySlowhands , DADT will never be repealed this way. If it was going to happen, it would be done already. There is huge popular support for ending DADT, and huge Democratic majorities in both houses. Republicans, and conservative Democrats in the Senate are holding it up, and this problem isn't getting any smaller.
@SpySlowhands You are far too optimistic, stop it, because you know deep within you that this super slow process will never actually come to an end if we continue watching it go along. You are simply far too in love with Obama to realize that he lied and is not the fierce advocate he claimed to be.
He defended DOMA, he defends DADT, he believes in separate but equal for gays. I mean seriously, can it be more obvious? And no, the DoJ doesn't have to appeal, that's actually a lie that they do.
Obumer is ONLY looking for votes, he hasnt done shit to this day and he ONLY wants votes, the guy is an IDIOT and should have never been voted in. DONT VOTE THIS IDIOT IN AGAIN, OUR COUNTRY IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU VOTED FOR, he was a dumb shit community leader that does not even come close to what a President needs to offer...
I swear, when they say "We'll let the Senate take care of it", are they banking on the knowledge that the Senate won't repeal it? Because if they are, then I'll be unbelievably pissed the fuck off... wait, I know they are banking on that knowledge and they are pissing me off because of it. The lying shits.
@snipzor You're absolutely right! The Senate? Did the Senate of the United states repeal slavery? Did the Senate of the United States study whether it was prudent to go to war in Iraq? We need a leader not a believer in the wisdom of the United States Senate in the White House. Seems like we didn't elect a leader for the job, just a guy who thinks he's the 101'st Senator with a better house to live in.
@awreslr2 Well... there's more to it than that. You elected a leader (I didn't because of my Canadianism) who lied about his positions on gay rights. Like... fiercely lied about them. Sure he gave federal employees some rights, but upon further examination, he's only extended rights to federal employees. The hate crimes legislation was doing fine without him actually, and the AIDS funding would have increased under the right-wing.
Obama's just a snake oil salesman until further notice.
Bullshit! Just give an executive order to stop DADT. Just how many more lives are to be ruined by this crap?
cxa2500 1 year ago
@cxa2500 way too many. Progress is never as fast as it should be.
chertzle 5 months ago
Gibbs is wrong (and he knows it, which is why he's having such a difficult time). The most durable solution to ending DADT is for a federal court to overturn it, as has happened. Any Act of Congress can be undone by a subsequent Act of Congress. Indeed, such a repeal of DADT proves my point.
rg0057 1 year ago
When, Gibbs? When it's convenient for Obama? When he's re-elected in 2012? Assuming he will even be re-elected, that is.
In case you haven't noticed the Senate is completely dysfunctional with the Party of No filibustering everything that Democrats try to get passed. After mid-terms it will be even more dysfunctional. Then we have asshats like McCain who say he will absolutely do everything in his power to prevent DADT repeal. Good luck with that.
HenhousetheRed 1 year ago 2
Obama's doing the right thing, people. The best way to end it is through repealing the law and it needs to get through the senate and onto the President's desk. His Justice Dep't has to appeal the federal judge so that the next judge can strike down the Justice Dep't's appeal, lending even more weight and cred and closure on that procedural front once and for all.
Just relax, it's in the process of ending, and the President is doing it right so that another President can't re-open it.
SpySlowhands 1 year ago
@SpySlowhands Get stuff through the Senate? Have you been paying attention to politics at all in the past year? Nothing is getting through the Senate. How long did a severely dumbed down Health Care take to pass? The Defense Authorization bill was filibustered by Republicans for the first time in fifty years. And they're in the minority. After mid-terms where a Republican takeover might be possible getting DADT repeal through the Senate will be a pipe dream. All we're hearing are excuses.
HenhousetheRed 1 year ago
@SpySlowhands , DADT will never be repealed this way. If it was going to happen, it would be done already. There is huge popular support for ending DADT, and huge Democratic majorities in both houses. Republicans, and conservative Democrats in the Senate are holding it up, and this problem isn't getting any smaller.
rg0057 1 year ago
@SpySlowhands You are far too optimistic, stop it, because you know deep within you that this super slow process will never actually come to an end if we continue watching it go along. You are simply far too in love with Obama to realize that he lied and is not the fierce advocate he claimed to be.
He defended DOMA, he defends DADT, he believes in separate but equal for gays. I mean seriously, can it be more obvious? And no, the DoJ doesn't have to appeal, that's actually a lie that they do.
snipzor 1 year ago
Obumer is ONLY looking for votes, he hasnt done shit to this day and he ONLY wants votes, the guy is an IDIOT and should have never been voted in. DONT VOTE THIS IDIOT IN AGAIN, OUR COUNTRY IS AT AN ALL TIME LOW BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU VOTED FOR, he was a dumb shit community leader that does not even come close to what a President needs to offer...
WSthe3rd 1 year ago
Its no bushes fault we are in debt. Just ask bill Clinton about subprime loans and the great "Community Reinvestment Act"!!!
wvbkball 1 year ago
“You voted for Obama to prove you’re not a racist. Now, who are you going to vote for to prove you’re not an idiot?”
dkkght46 1 year ago 2
I voted for and believed in Obama sadly I now conclude he is a liar and needs to be removed from the office.
silentfades 1 year ago
IMPEACH THE IDIOT OBAMA! WHAT A JOKE!
impeachobamanow2010 1 year ago
Seriously, fuck whatever "process" they have going and let the ink dry
MrNonoz 1 year ago
I swear, when they say "We'll let the Senate take care of it", are they banking on the knowledge that the Senate won't repeal it? Because if they are, then I'll be unbelievably pissed the fuck off... wait, I know they are banking on that knowledge and they are pissing me off because of it. The lying shits.
snipzor 1 year ago
@snipzor couldn't have said it any better.
tipofmytongue1024 1 year ago
@snipzor You're absolutely right! The Senate? Did the Senate of the United states repeal slavery? Did the Senate of the United States study whether it was prudent to go to war in Iraq? We need a leader not a believer in the wisdom of the United States Senate in the White House. Seems like we didn't elect a leader for the job, just a guy who thinks he's the 101'st Senator with a better house to live in.
awreslr2 1 year ago
@awreslr2 Well... there's more to it than that. You elected a leader (I didn't because of my Canadianism) who lied about his positions on gay rights. Like... fiercely lied about them. Sure he gave federal employees some rights, but upon further examination, he's only extended rights to federal employees. The hate crimes legislation was doing fine without him actually, and the AIDS funding would have increased under the right-wing.
Obama's just a snake oil salesman until further notice.
snipzor 1 year ago