You also have to remember that European languages were less evolved back then and that you can look at a text in ancient Irish which was never influenced by Latin, but see that they have similarities in certain aspects, same with German and ancient Baltic (the least evolved and closest to the original Indo-European languages). They all have similarities to a certain extent and it's really difficult sometimes to determine the flow of words from one language to another in ancient texts.
@HojoOSanagi You are right in that aspect that ancient European languages did not contain much words relating to scientific concepts. Instead of these they identified these things with objects and phenomena in nature. So they had not a special word for solar eclipse, they would just say that dark or black sun.
@HojoOSanagi And of course there was a great similarity between ancient Indo-european languages. In fact they still have closely related words for the most important objects and emotions.
@Quyen29 I am not sure. If you look at Old English texts from 8th or even 13th century, you can hardly find words from Romance languages. It certainly is not by trading with the Roman Empire that English got Latin words! At the time of the Empire, the languages spoken in Britain were mainly Celtic, until Saxons and Angles invaded the island.
@Monkeyshouts Can you quote me such English texts? I am very interested in them. I got this information from the fact,that the British Isles were occupied by the Romans for centuries,so the basic latin vocabulary must have had its impact in the early english language. Are there pure,germanic english texts besides Beowulf?
On youtube I can find v=RLJGTYkEKLI (text reading), v=g5XIA0oKHNM (explanation of the germanic roots), and the most interesting here v=NFcjeCIQiME (invasions and loan words).
Relating to the invasions, the Romans invaded Britain before the Anglo-Saxons, so it influenced Celtic languages like present Welsh, not Old English. It seems however that Latin had already influenced the Germanic languages that were to come to England.
I believe it altered the vocabulary quite a bit, but also the German syntax was altered due to Latin influence. Most Latin based changes came after the Roman Empire had fallen and were influences by the Church and science, but by seeing some words more closely related to the vulgar speech of the common people and not the Church's classical Latin so they definitely took quite a few loan words back in ancient times.
@HojoOSanagi Vulgar Latin was the main influence for western european languages after the Fall of the Roman Empire. It is chrystal clear. Only ecclesiastical expressions find their roots in classical latin.For instance: Consecrate,spirit,desecrate and so forth.
Yes,it is,because i looked for them in reliable sources.
Schmok66 1 year ago
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You also have to remember that European languages were less evolved back then and that you can look at a text in ancient Irish which was never influenced by Latin, but see that they have similarities in certain aspects, same with German and ancient Baltic (the least evolved and closest to the original Indo-European languages). They all have similarities to a certain extent and it's really difficult sometimes to determine the flow of words from one language to another in ancient texts.
HojoOSanagi 8 months ago
@HojoOSanagi You are right in that aspect that ancient European languages did not contain much words relating to scientific concepts. Instead of these they identified these things with objects and phenomena in nature. So they had not a special word for solar eclipse, they would just say that dark or black sun.
Schmok66 8 months ago
@HojoOSanagi And of course there was a great similarity between ancient Indo-european languages. In fact they still have closely related words for the most important objects and emotions.
Schmok66 8 months ago
It is interseting^^. Is the information is totaly correct?
Quyen29 1 year ago
@Quyen29 I am not sure. If you look at Old English texts from 8th or even 13th century, you can hardly find words from Romance languages. It certainly is not by trading with the Roman Empire that English got Latin words! At the time of the Empire, the languages spoken in Britain were mainly Celtic, until Saxons and Angles invaded the island.
Monkeyshouts 11 months ago
@Monkeyshouts Can you quote me such English texts? I am very interested in them. I got this information from the fact,that the British Isles were occupied by the Romans for centuries,so the basic latin vocabulary must have had its impact in the early english language. Are there pure,germanic english texts besides Beowulf?
Schmok66 11 months ago
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Monkeyshouts 11 months ago
On youtube I can find v=RLJGTYkEKLI (text reading), v=g5XIA0oKHNM (explanation of the germanic roots), and the most interesting here v=NFcjeCIQiME (invasions and loan words).
Relating to the invasions, the Romans invaded Britain before the Anglo-Saxons, so it influenced Celtic languages like present Welsh, not Old English. It seems however that Latin had already influenced the Germanic languages that were to come to England.
Monkeyshouts 11 months ago
@Monkeyshouts Thank you very much! In which way did Latin influence German? In vocabulary or just in the grammar?
Schmok66 11 months ago
@Schmok66 No idea, sorry!
Monkeyshouts 11 months ago
@Schmok66
I believe it altered the vocabulary quite a bit, but also the German syntax was altered due to Latin influence. Most Latin based changes came after the Roman Empire had fallen and were influences by the Church and science, but by seeing some words more closely related to the vulgar speech of the common people and not the Church's classical Latin so they definitely took quite a few loan words back in ancient times.
HojoOSanagi 8 months ago
@HojoOSanagi Vulgar Latin was the main influence for western european languages after the Fall of the Roman Empire. It is chrystal clear. Only ecclesiastical expressions find their roots in classical latin.For instance: Consecrate,spirit,desecrate and so forth.
Schmok66 8 months ago
Very good video!<3
lovelynyumin 2 years ago