this is bullshit health care bill pro buisness! No public option included! Millions will be left uninsured and the is against the american constitution it is a human right! housing is a human right!
Fantastic!! Barack Obama has dealt a crushing defeat to his enemies. This is a true case of good winning over evil. It will mean another four years of safety for the world with Obama as our leader. Great man! Great victory!!!
Being British it's been interesting watching the debate on health care. The positive being that people end up paying more tax, but in doing so, save more lives....The negative being that people pay less and more lives are lost....I've just seen an American female politician arguing against it and mentioning European nanny states. You can call the British NHS all you want but the fact is it saves lives....
anyone else who supports the health care bill is a liberal wimp. you get what you deserve. if you want more, work harder, don't bring the nation towards socialism
Hitler was all about reform. It just wasn't the kind of reform I would agree with either. Doesn't the word "reform" sound great? Unfortunately, it means different things to different people.
My idea of reform is telling government beurocrats to shut the hell up and stay out of my life.
It's not the responsibility of government to run my life. It's MY responsibility. It's not their responsibility to feed me, cloth me, educate me. It's all on me.
It's the opposite, those who vote FOR the bill will lose voters and pay a big price in the 2010 elections. There are more percentage of people who are against this bill.
I for one being a democrat supporter will vote against any democrat who support this bill.
@quizerry Oh shut up. If we keep going the way it is now, then in a few years no one will be able to afford health ins. except the rich. This is coming I for one am glad of it.
A trillion dollar bill. 500 billion in new taxes that will raise cost for all and 500 billion in medicare cuts that lead to rationed and denied care. Is that what you all want? The Government will have complete control to dictate to you how when what and where you will receive or not receive care. Ask yourself do you trust the Government? You do realize medicare/medicaid denies more procedures and drugs the Insurance already. The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
The Republicons are as sorry as they come. Slaughter is right, all they want to do is delay to kill. I think the Repukes in congress need to give up their healthcare. If we can't have it, you bastards sure as hell can't have it. Our tax dollars aren't just here for you clowns.
Lenny, I've got a question for ya. What is this really about - the forced coverage thing? I can't see it being about anything else. They gave up the Govt. option. I know you're not wanting the insurance companies to screw us more. And I know you don't want to pay more. So, what is it?
@HemiHead66 Hey I know we need an overhaul in healthcare , but I just don't like the idea of the Government taking it over. Medicare is nearly broke , we are in deep debt already. This is like the LAST thing our government should be focused on right now. It just seems hurried and has a "bad smell" to it. And Obama is behind it -just gives me the shits.
I can see why you have doubts - with all the propaganda flying around, how could you not. But this is not a Govt. take-over of healthcare. Not even close to one. And it's supposed to reduce our debt, not add to it. What the Republican are offering will not fix anything, and it'll surely add to our debt. Their main concern is protecting corporate profits. The Dems too, but they're willing to bend a little. They'll tweak it along the way and make it work.
You do realize that a lot of corporate leaders want this bill to pass, because it will force millions of people to buy insurance, thus giving them more customers? And that The Obama campaign received more funding from "corporate interests" than McCain did?
@Fidosim Yeah - I thought about that. But it stops their price hikes. Stops them from getting rid of people when they get sick. Keeps them from denying healthcare to people with pre-existing conditions. And with an exchange, one company probably won't get the lion's share of new customers. And there's a non-profit on the exchange. too.
How so? Forcing people to buy insurance puts more of a financial burden on them, and forcing businesses, especially small businesses, to insure their employees will burden them as well, forcing them to cut employment, payrolls, and benefits, while we're in the middle of a deep recession. If the bill is simply about helping people with pre-existing conditions, why not simply offload that on medicare? This bill is 2000 pages long, and full of provisions that will make our problem worse.
@Fidosim When Obama ran for Prez he was against the forced healthcare. But this shit of making the few that are covered pay for everybody else's healthcare is bullshit. If you're working you should at least be able to cover yur own ass. Providing it's affordable. Big Co's pick up a large part of the tab to make it affordable. So the Govt. will need to help small Biz and owner operators. And they are. If it's not affordable I'd be against it too.
Quite the opposite, actually. In 2007, Obama flatly stated that his goal was for a universal health care system to be in place by the end of his first term. He said that, as it happened in Canada, this could be done incrementally. This bill, as bad as it is, is only the tip of the iceberg, but it will also open the floodgates for the rest of Obama's agenda. When a business or the government owns something, the cost doesn't just go away. Businesses have to cut corners, and the government...
@Fidosim And he don't deny wanting universal health care. But I heard him say he'll settle for reform of the system we got because it's to much of a problem to redo healthcare in this country. If you ask me, it should be redone. We should be looking at healthcare in every part of the world and using everything that's good. This crap of paying double everybody else for the same or worse healthcare is getting old. We're good at emergency care. Shitty at taking care of our people.
@HemiHead66 Well said we are good at Emergency care. I think if we do get the "free" care it won't be as good quality wise and the lines and wait times will be longer. Americans don't get 2 hr lunches and 2-3 months a year vacation like the Euro's so I just don't think that 'slow style" of care will suit us at all.
@Fringe111 So what is you main point? Are you saying we should just ram it through now? Why would you support Euro style healthcare? Have you seen Greece lately - yes that is our wonderful entitlement base coming to fruition.
@lenny380 WTF??? Hey Genius...her name is Congresswoman Louise Slaughter (NY-28) And while she doesn't represent my district, I would be PROUD to have her!!!! She's more patriotic then ANY flipping T-Bagger could EVER be!!!!!!!!
@classc63 Really if you are a genius - tell me why you didn't say anything supporting your argument for Government run, Socialist healthcare. " I hate it ,EY wish we could all get along but we can dupe these idiot Americans no problem" thats what she meant to say.
@lenny380 You know I'm an so tired of you morons putting words into other people's mouths. Her point is, much like mine is to you...what is the point of TRYING to talk to someone when all they say is "NO!" Or in your case, have been mind FUCKED by FAUX NEWS! You wouldn't know a Government run Socialist takeover of healthcare if it bit you in the ASS!!!!
Hope you enjoy this weekend and next week when Healthcare Reform passes!! Whatever will you bitch, moan and groan about then????
@classc63 Hey genius - I don't give a damn about Fox news. I can easily see this like the freaking nose on my face , I am sorry you cannot. Trust me I will be moaning for years on youtube - hahahaha (ask Hemihead lol)
A damn dictator in the WH and you can't do anything to stop him - WTF is wrong with our CONGRESS??? Are DEMS from some other country? What the hell is wrong with you??
Anti American, Lenny? She's as American as they come. Did you hear her in that debate with the Republicans? She said, we need to get this fixed and maybe we can start making things in this country again. She remembered, Lee Iacocca, saying, I can't export these cars, they've got a thousand dollars worth of healthcare in every one of them. My competitors are kicking my ass. And she's right. Our products have too much cost in them.
I cant get a job,high blood pressure,so i will get my health care free at the VA,free medications.Free food with my Food-E card,i will do side jobs for cash,pay no taxes,i am going fishing tomorow,and i will never vote for Obama again.
Don't you do it!!!! DUMB DUMB DUMB!! People you will regret this like you already regret Obama- he hasn't done a damn thing and you trust him to take charge of your healthcare- people Europe the socialized center of the world ain't doing to good IF YOU HAVE NOTICED. We don't want to be like that.
I say this based on the government's track record on running/regulating things. Our schools are a joke. Our farms are constantly in trouble. They ruined the banks. They ruined the mortgage industry. The Post Office is losing money hand over fist. GM is already in the red. Medicare/Medicaid are teetering on insolvency, and so is Social Security.
With such a track record of failure - why trust them with ANYTHING else?
It's Funny that youtube wont let me say "free education for EVERYONE through WEED TAXATION"? how about it? how about it? AND it's funny that youtube wont let me say
Fascism or Socialist America.... There is no way Americans can save old glory of self-patriotic USA where George Washington frought American revolution.
Today... it's taken over by corrupted politicans and putting people's lives in danger.
Look... It is fascism. An extreme oversight by the government of business, whether by the Left or the Right is fascism according to Mussolini.
The Democrats say it is for the American people. No, it isn't. Making health care affordable and available won't happen if this bill passes. It will have the opposite effect because the cost of care will increase. Mandated rather than actuarial based charges for service, and the addition of millions of NON PAYING clients to the rolls. BOHICA
Still waiting for Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse to take over million of middle class and turn into finanical dead pool and poverty. This can happen.
White horse would be wipe out entire middle classes wealth.
Red horse would be tiger woods bankrupt wealthy nations.
Black Horse would be healthcare bankruptcy.
Pale Horse would be two years to 2012 stockmarket crashed.
Greedy marxists. They have no problem taking away other peoples fruits of labor. Look at this Chavez, I mean Obama, how proud he is to steal from other people.
yeah, no more fire departments or police...fuck highways! fuck bridges! fuck the military! fuck hospital emergency rooms! fuck 911! fuck dumb ignorant faggots from boston that don't have a fucking clue what socialism is! fuck the coast guard and all military! DOWN WITH SOCIALISM! DOWN WITH SOCIETY!
HEY the state unforced car insurance made the cost go down. oh wait no it didn't it just keeps going up and up so why believe the lies WAKE UP AMERICA
@cobrakilla1 no they allways ssy if everyone gets it it willgo down it has nothing to do with what ur talking about in this health care u can pick but its a scam
yes that is what i meant. What right does the govt have to fine me for not having health insurance! that is a direct violation of my rights. The Government has no say in how i treat my body. This is my body, not theirs.
you pay the government a "fine" every year. it's called taxes.
you pay it for groceries, your house even your water. and "we the people" through the united states constitution gave that right to federal, state, county and even municipal governments for since 1913.
bro, if you don't get insurance & get sick, in an emergency room where you need a life-saving $1.5 M bi-pass, the hospital must do it - and we all pay for your irresponsibility. this happens every day in every hospital in america and hospitals make everyone pay while preventing you from getting insurance.
blue cross, etna, kaiser r capitalist, profit-making business, we're regulating them - that's just common sense, not socialism
the only socialized medicine in america is the va
you can't take responsibility for your own catastrophic illness since you can't get health insurance with a pre-existing condition and unless you've amassed a vast personal fortune, you can't pay for your own treatment.
wow. how truly ignorant are you? tell me how being "responsible with you life" will prevent you from growing old? getting congenital cancer? parkinsons disease, rheumatoid arthritis, tuberculosis?
careful, the words you use to condemn other, may come to haunt you
only a fool believes responsible people don't get sick
however, health care will protect us all, even the fools
yes, i admit ur right. i went from bi-pass to catastrophic illness. why? cuz i'm intellectually honest
however, since health care covers health, not just bi-pass or viagra, catastrophic illness the appropriate response to ur specious &, no offense, foolish "responsibility" point
again, only a fool believes "saving" can protect u from the astronomical cost of catastrophic illness which can strike at any age
mommy notwithstanding, we can't let fools write health care
@jasonsadventure Anyone who supports more government involvement in personal lives only does so because either one, he is part of the "elite" or two, he doesn't want to be responsible for his own actions. He just wants the government to "bail" him out when he gets over his head. And if you can't save then you have the CHOICE to buy health care. See? if you can't save enough to pay for a "catastrophic" illness then you have the ability to buy insurance.... you shouldn't be forced into it.
wow, lie, after fabrication, after changing the topic and on and on.
so, you built your own roads? power your own house? pick your own food? build your own schools, librarys, traffic lights and deploy your own personal army, navy, air force or marine corp?
do you support government involvement in the lives of pregnant women? gay marriage? military service? terri schiavo?
ur government involvement argument is a hypocritical lie.
@jasonsadventure The dollar bill has control over the massive corporations. If we do not like what they are doing we have the choice to abandon them, We do not have that choice when it comes to the government.... well we do, but it would be a bit more bloody.
though i agree we don't have the choice to abandon government we can vote them out.
the dollar bill did not force the auto industry to install seat belts or airbags, didn't create child labor laws, didn't stop chemical companies from dumbing carcinogens in our air & drinking water, didn't break-up the monopoly power of standard oil,
& it would not stop the "health" insurance industry killing tens of thousands by denying insurance
@jasonsadventure yeah but with this health care bill it is going to be practically impossible to get rid of, there is no walking away from this.
Also i do not believe that it is the governments position to make car companies install seat belts.... if i want a care with seat belts then ill buy one. the government should not enforce babysitting laws. By not wearing a seat belt i endanger one person, me. if i am willing to endanger my self than that is my fault an my responsibility, not govco's
@jasonsadventure the health insurance companies are killing allot less people than the federal government is going to after it bankrupts the insurance companies and then realizes that it can afford this preposterous plan.
@jasonsadventure So then it's a violation of the Constitution then..."Obey My Mandate or pay a fine." I guarantee that it wont be called a "fine" in the Bill because that would constitute a blatant violation wouldn't it... There is no basis in the Constitution, Declaration, or Any of our founding laws, principles, or philosophies for this "healthcare" swindle. As soon as they have the votes to pass it, the repeal process will begin.
the mandate is not only completely constitutional, mandates or fines have been a part of the rule of law since the nation was founded
moreover mandates, fines and fees existed even before personal income tax, which was added to the constitution in 1913
ur claims are just lies and deceit used to rally the irrational racist bigots who spit and scream hate and who are currently the center of the political right
@jasonsadventure If The Liar Obama can with a stroke of a pen do away with a Contstitutional Statute...What is that called? Just answer, don't get fancy with me. When the President changes Constitutional Law with an executive order, what has our Executive become?
We are going to shut this country down Kiss your bank account goodbye Taxes and revenues will drop There will be nothing bought or sold Nothing but fiat money to wallpaper your wall with!
Will the illegal aliens that will be using this healthcare be paying taxes to off-set the added cost or will the American people just be expected to take up the difference?
"Culture war"?? What about the CLASS WARFARE THE GOP HAS BEEN CONDUCTING FOR 50 YEARS AGAINST THE MIDDLE CLASS OF AMERICA! When did healthy AMERICANS become evil? WHEN?
If you were ever worried about giving people the opportunity to opt-out, then you wouldn't be trying to foist this Socialist bullshit onto ever man, woman and child in the country.
At what point does 3/4s of the American People saying "NO/HELL NO!" register with these idiots? The Republicans are the only ones who seem to be listening. "The cards we've been dealt" are garbage...and any card player knows you Dont Play Garbage Cards...This entitlement is a loser. We dont have the money and our children Certainly wont have the money to pay for this. This nonedense of 10 years spending and robbing Medicare for 6 years of Obamacare is a Keynesian Nightmare. "You Lie!"-J. Wilson
@xxxFaustusxxx yes they are for healthcare refom. but not socialized healthcare. And public option is government ran healthcare aka socialized healthcare.
If we turn over the injustice the insurance companies do to the america to the government, then where do we go to sue the government for their injustice they'll do on the American people in denying life saving treatment.
There'll be no or nowhere to turn to.
as it is in europe and canada. The people are totally screwed.
@xxxFaustusxxx No, they don't. They show the exact opposite and either you are wildly misinformed and as such unqualified to comment on this issue, or are an outright liar, who should be exposed as such.
3/15/10 Rasmussen polled as a generic question, 43% in favor of Healthcare Reform. 53% Oppose Healthcare Reform. Now, would you like specific poll #s regarding the "Affordable Healthcare Act"? You Lied.
@jensen1901 Dude...stop making shit up! The people are protesting on the streets! The Phone lines are JAMMED AT THE cAPITOL...I Know, I tried all day to get through. Any Congressman who's in a borderline district or Senator who votes "yea" is getting fired in Nov. Scott Brown was elected in the Bluest State there is...To the Kennedy seat on thye basis that he'd be the 41st "No" vote. America Hates this Bill.
Rasmussen poll shows 53% strongly disapprove while 48% approve. Gallup poll 44% disapprove while 39% approve. 55% want to scarp the bill. 57% think it will hurt the economy. 55% think it will make cost go up while 18% think cost will go down. Obama's approval rating 44% strongly disapprove while 23% approve.
@CosmoHunter24 Yes they are. there are really but a few million that want this socialized government take over of healthcare. And that's mostly a bunch of euro's that vote on all these internet polls.
They feel the USA should be dragged down to their 3rd world way of life.
@CosmoHunter24 Socialized healthcare. The government taxes as awell mandates that I buy healthcare. While making laws that will shut down all private healthcare providers, leaving only the government ran healthcare to buy from.
@CosmoHunter24 Fuck you and die you lying piece of shit(I'm Drunk). Your unborn grandchildren fucking despise you for this. This Bill Makes them SLAVES.
10 years of TAXING US AND CUTTING OUR PARENTS MEDICARE pays for 6 years of "Obamacare"(It sounds so sunny and fresh..."obamacare")
So 60 years of Taxes pay for 36 years "obamacare". We Hate you!
thats right when this passes everyone will STILL not have healthcare. And the middle class will fit MOST of the bill not the rich as Obama said would happen.
Low middle class will have to pay monthly!!! Even if you don't want it. Most Americans are middle class and they will be paying monthly hence they will fit most of the bill.
@CosmoHunter24 I said 3/4. I should have said 73%(happy now?) are specifically against this Healthcare Bill.
I've been out drinking all night so I'm not going to search which poll those #s come from(probably Ras.), but they reflect the # of people who are for scrapping the current Bill and starting over and those who are for scrapping the whole mess altogether.
@CosmoHunter24 You Fuck! You called me "liar"? Who are those tens of thoudans of people on the streets today?! The combine numbers as I said last night equal 73%. That on 2 questions in the same poll:
1. Should this Bill be scrapped and started over? 36%
2. Should this Bill be scrapped entirely? 37%
=73%
"Real Clear" is that 80% of Americans are happy with the plan they have Now.
Your unborn grandchildren ask me to give you a message...."FUCK YOU!!!"
Yes Democrats, pass the Bill so we can spend the next 8 years REPEALING IT!! Pass it for the children who havent been born yet that will have to pay for our mistakes. 10 years of Taxes and Medicare Cuts, to pay for 6 years of healthcare...or 60 years of Taxes for 36 years of healthcare. That's the Math. 60 years from now, America will be paying for this entitlement, but the entitlement will have run out 24 years hence! This is reprehensible. The Repulicans are on the right side of History here.
Idiot. If people want to eat a Big Mac, then that and the consequences are their fucking business.
Muhammad Ali didn't choose a lifestyle that leads to long-term health either. But I wouldn't take away his right to choose.
You idiots whine about health when it comes to Big Macs, but I don't hear you whining about snowboarding. Either way, who the fuck are you to decide if the risks are paid for by other people?
What you really mean is "FUCK BEING FREE" - just like Obama does.
totally, bro. who gives a shit about people who can't afford health insurance. america was founded on not giving a damn about the personal welfare of others. it's their fault they're poor.
Time to pay up Whitey!
Hopefully my new stocks in insurance and pharma will offset my taxes taken from me to buy "Tyrone" and "Pedro" more free shit.
LibsMakeGr8Sandbags 1 year ago
this is bullshit health care bill pro buisness! No public option included! Millions will be left uninsured and the is against the american constitution it is a human right! housing is a human right!
MrSocialistmanifesto 1 year ago
the only suspicious thing abt this bill is, so many politicians are interested in it, And that must be a bad sign,
lunafringe10 1 year ago
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IMPEACH OBAMA and all treasonous government officials, who voted for Obamacare
blt40 1 year ago
Fantastic!! Barack Obama has dealt a crushing defeat to his enemies. This is a true case of good winning over evil. It will mean another four years of safety for the world with Obama as our leader. Great man! Great victory!!!
VICTORY!!! YAY!!! YAY!!!!!
SugarTomAppleRoger 1 year ago
THIS CORRUPTION HAS TO STOP!
TaxTeaParty 1 year ago
PRAY for our nation!
TaxTeaParty 1 year ago
We will continue to fight the good fight against this socialist agenda!
TaxTeaParty 1 year ago
Being British it's been interesting watching the debate on health care. The positive being that people end up paying more tax, but in doing so, save more lives....The negative being that people pay less and more lives are lost....I've just seen an American female politician arguing against it and mentioning European nanny states. You can call the British NHS all you want but the fact is it saves lives....
TheDogonebad 1 year ago
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anyone else who supports the health care bill is a liberal wimp. you get what you deserve. if you want more, work harder, don't bring the nation towards socialism
redsoxboy1134 1 year ago
I am all for reform. I'm just not for socialism.
Hitler was all about reform. It just wasn't the kind of reform I would agree with either. Doesn't the word "reform" sound great? Unfortunately, it means different things to different people.
My idea of reform is telling government beurocrats to shut the hell up and stay out of my life.
It's not the responsibility of government to run my life. It's MY responsibility. It's not their responsibility to feed me, cloth me, educate me. It's all on me.
kablooy1 1 year ago
In many states those who vote against the bill will lose voters & pay a big price in the 2010 elections.
DillonX 1 year ago
It's the opposite, those who vote FOR the bill will lose voters and pay a big price in the 2010 elections. There are more percentage of people who are against this bill.
I for one being a democrat supporter will vote against any democrat who support this bill.
Civsuccess2 1 year ago
Anyone who Votes yes on this tax and spend bill is a traitor to the Constitution and to the people.
Obamacare is BAD for America.
quizerry 1 year ago
@quizerry Oh shut up. If we keep going the way it is now, then in a few years no one will be able to afford health ins. except the rich. This is coming I for one am glad of it.
Fringe111 1 year ago 4
Think about this:
Barack Obama is the FIRST black president. I support him all the way.
White man can't stand it, cause White man supposed to be the hero. But no not Black Man. Only White Man. Not fair. Not fair at all.
slumdoggy 1 year ago
A trillion dollar bill. 500 billion in new taxes that will raise cost for all and 500 billion in medicare cuts that lead to rationed and denied care. Is that what you all want? The Government will have complete control to dictate to you how when what and where you will receive or not receive care. Ask yourself do you trust the Government? You do realize medicare/medicaid denies more procedures and drugs the Insurance already. The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.
quizerry 1 year ago
Whao did you see that - Obama has some kind of bad scalp fungus. He should see a "good" doctor. HAHA
lenny380 1 year ago
bipartisanship means twice as bad. Let the democrats go down with Obama!
john51880 1 year ago
Treason!!! - Up or down vote and everyone needs to say your name if you vote in Congress for the record!!!
lenny380 1 year ago
Never go against a Catholic Nun...( Bishops just have to say some things, but really have the Nun's back )
Never go against the a Nun...
If you are a republican...you better save yourself now...and vote for health care reform....or you will pay....
taking names. collection time approaching.
thecruiseliner 1 year ago
repubs have absolutely nothing to say about corrupting and prostituting the system
asdfxcxv 1 year ago
Now we know the biggest socialist is not John Kerry. It's Barack Obama.
Civsuccess2 1 year ago
@jerzyguy29 You missed yesterdays Obama show where he said the United States Constitution is now dead and he didn't have to follow it anymore.
Obama "DEEMED" himself today as king of America
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 1 year ago
@MrSTANDFORAMERICA Are your eyes brown??? Well they should be...because YOUR FULL OF SHIT!!!!!
classc63 1 year ago
Liar liar, pants on fire.
Civsuccess2 1 year ago
The Republicons are as sorry as they come. Slaughter is right, all they want to do is delay to kill. I think the Repukes in congress need to give up their healthcare. If we can't have it, you bastards sure as hell can't have it. Our tax dollars aren't just here for you clowns.
HemiHead66 1 year ago
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
I hope the people who voted for the lady that said "I hate it " are really proud of the Anti-American they voted for.
lenny380 1 year ago
@lenny380
Lenny, I've got a question for ya. What is this really about - the forced coverage thing? I can't see it being about anything else. They gave up the Govt. option. I know you're not wanting the insurance companies to screw us more. And I know you don't want to pay more. So, what is it?
HemiHead66 1 year ago
@HemiHead66 Hey I know we need an overhaul in healthcare , but I just don't like the idea of the Government taking it over. Medicare is nearly broke , we are in deep debt already. This is like the LAST thing our government should be focused on right now. It just seems hurried and has a "bad smell" to it. And Obama is behind it -just gives me the shits.
lenny380 1 year ago
lenny380
I can see why you have doubts - with all the propaganda flying around, how could you not. But this is not a Govt. take-over of healthcare. Not even close to one. And it's supposed to reduce our debt, not add to it. What the Republican are offering will not fix anything, and it'll surely add to our debt. Their main concern is protecting corporate profits. The Dems too, but they're willing to bend a little. They'll tweak it along the way and make it work.
HemiHead66 1 year ago
You do realize that a lot of corporate leaders want this bill to pass, because it will force millions of people to buy insurance, thus giving them more customers? And that The Obama campaign received more funding from "corporate interests" than McCain did?
Fidosim 1 year ago
@Fidosim Yeah - I thought about that. But it stops their price hikes. Stops them from getting rid of people when they get sick. Keeps them from denying healthcare to people with pre-existing conditions. And with an exchange, one company probably won't get the lion's share of new customers. And there's a non-profit on the exchange. too.
HemiHead66 1 year ago
How so? Forcing people to buy insurance puts more of a financial burden on them, and forcing businesses, especially small businesses, to insure their employees will burden them as well, forcing them to cut employment, payrolls, and benefits, while we're in the middle of a deep recession. If the bill is simply about helping people with pre-existing conditions, why not simply offload that on medicare? This bill is 2000 pages long, and full of provisions that will make our problem worse.
Fidosim 1 year ago
@Fidosim When Obama ran for Prez he was against the forced healthcare. But this shit of making the few that are covered pay for everybody else's healthcare is bullshit. If you're working you should at least be able to cover yur own ass. Providing it's affordable. Big Co's pick up a large part of the tab to make it affordable. So the Govt. will need to help small Biz and owner operators. And they are. If it's not affordable I'd be against it too.
HemiHead66 1 year ago
Quite the opposite, actually. In 2007, Obama flatly stated that his goal was for a universal health care system to be in place by the end of his first term. He said that, as it happened in Canada, this could be done incrementally. This bill, as bad as it is, is only the tip of the iceberg, but it will also open the floodgates for the rest of Obama's agenda. When a business or the government owns something, the cost doesn't just go away. Businesses have to cut corners, and the government...
Fidosim 1 year ago
...has to either tax individuals or businesses to pay for things.
Fidosim 1 year ago
@Fidosim And he don't deny wanting universal health care. But I heard him say he'll settle for reform of the system we got because it's to much of a problem to redo healthcare in this country. If you ask me, it should be redone. We should be looking at healthcare in every part of the world and using everything that's good. This crap of paying double everybody else for the same or worse healthcare is getting old. We're good at emergency care. Shitty at taking care of our people.
HemiHead66 1 year ago
@HemiHead66 Well said we are good at Emergency care. I think if we do get the "free" care it won't be as good quality wise and the lines and wait times will be longer. Americans don't get 2 hr lunches and 2-3 months a year vacation like the Euro's so I just don't think that 'slow style" of care will suit us at all.
lenny380 1 year ago
@lenny380 Hurried? Give me a break. This has been fought for for over 70 years.
Fringe111 1 year ago
@Fringe111 So what is you main point? Are you saying we should just ram it through now? Why would you support Euro style healthcare? Have you seen Greece lately - yes that is our wonderful entitlement base coming to fruition.
lenny380 1 year ago
@lenny380 WTF??? Hey Genius...her name is Congresswoman Louise Slaughter (NY-28) And while she doesn't represent my district, I would be PROUD to have her!!!! She's more patriotic then ANY flipping T-Bagger could EVER be!!!!!!!!
classc63 1 year ago
@classc63 Really if you are a genius - tell me why you didn't say anything supporting your argument for Government run, Socialist healthcare. " I hate it ,EY wish we could all get along but we can dupe these idiot Americans no problem" thats what she meant to say.
lenny380 1 year ago
@lenny380 You know I'm an so tired of you morons putting words into other people's mouths. Her point is, much like mine is to you...what is the point of TRYING to talk to someone when all they say is "NO!" Or in your case, have been mind FUCKED by FAUX NEWS! You wouldn't know a Government run Socialist takeover of healthcare if it bit you in the ASS!!!!
Hope you enjoy this weekend and next week when Healthcare Reform passes!! Whatever will you bitch, moan and groan about then????
classc63 1 year ago
@classc63 Hey genius - I don't give a damn about Fox news. I can easily see this like the freaking nose on my face , I am sorry you cannot. Trust me I will be moaning for years on youtube - hahahaha (ask Hemihead lol)
lenny380 1 year ago
Sponge Bop Square Pants was caught selling tainted Crabby Cakes on the White House lawn toillustrate the need for healthcare!
billeybop 1 year ago
If you keep up with world news,Obama care is not going to help you much.
OBAMASTINIAN 1 year ago 2
Obama bin LIAR
Nationalizing medical care isn't "insurance reform". And doing so isn't "tough", but it is lawless.
TylerNull 1 year ago 2
A damn dictator in the WH and you can't do anything to stop him - WTF is wrong with our CONGRESS??? Are DEMS from some other country? What the hell is wrong with you??
lenny380 1 year ago
@lenny380
@lenny380
Anti American, Lenny? She's as American as they come. Did you hear her in that debate with the Republicans? She said, we need to get this fixed and maybe we can start making things in this country again. She remembered, Lee Iacocca, saying, I can't export these cars, they've got a thousand dollars worth of healthcare in every one of them. My competitors are kicking my ass. And she's right. Our products have too much cost in them.
HemiHead66 1 year ago
I cant get a job,high blood pressure,so i will get my health care free at the VA,free medications.Free food with my Food-E card,i will do side jobs for cash,pay no taxes,i am going fishing tomorow,and i will never vote for Obama again.
OBAMASTINIAN 1 year ago
catch a big one -HAHA - ( you voted for him the first time?? sheesh)
lenny380 1 year ago
Don't you do it!!!! DUMB DUMB DUMB!! People you will regret this like you already regret Obama- he hasn't done a damn thing and you trust him to take charge of your healthcare- people Europe the socialized center of the world ain't doing to good IF YOU HAVE NOTICED. We don't want to be like that.
lenny380 1 year ago
OMG Waxman could snort the entire new healthcare bill up his nose and we would be done with it - HAHA
lenny380 1 year ago
DON"T tell them to do it for us we don't want it. SPEAK for yourself!!!
lenny380 1 year ago
I say this based on the government's track record on running/regulating things. Our schools are a joke. Our farms are constantly in trouble. They ruined the banks. They ruined the mortgage industry. The Post Office is losing money hand over fist. GM is already in the red. Medicare/Medicaid are teetering on insolvency, and so is Social Security.
With such a track record of failure - why trust them with ANYTHING else?
Slyrr7 1 year ago
Hooray!! more taxes for everybody and raise the national debt some more. What a wonderful thing this is going to be. I cant wait
newBelGum 1 year ago
To hell with big government. Obongo needs to be deported.
ddddcinc 1 year ago
@ddddcinc SERIOUSLY....Are you RETARDED????????
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kindweed 1 year ago
Fascism or Socialist America.... There is no way Americans can save old glory of self-patriotic USA where George Washington frought American revolution.
Today... it's taken over by corrupted politicans and putting people's lives in danger.
screenwriterOscar 1 year ago
Look... It is fascism. An extreme oversight by the government of business, whether by the Left or the Right is fascism according to Mussolini.
The Democrats say it is for the American people. No, it isn't. Making health care affordable and available won't happen if this bill passes. It will have the opposite effect because the cost of care will increase. Mandated rather than actuarial based charges for service, and the addition of millions of NON PAYING clients to the rolls. BOHICA
mrdifar 1 year ago
Still waiting for Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse to take over million of middle class and turn into finanical dead pool and poverty. This can happen.
White horse would be wipe out entire middle classes wealth.
Red horse would be tiger woods bankrupt wealthy nations.
Black Horse would be healthcare bankruptcy.
Pale Horse would be two years to 2012 stockmarket crashed.
screenwriterOscar 1 year ago
Greedy marxists. They have no problem taking away other peoples fruits of labor. Look at this Chavez, I mean Obama, how proud he is to steal from other people.
BlueSkies360 1 year ago
Stop paying taxes! End of socialism!
BeantownJim 1 year ago 6
Say that when u get laid off and the Gov. dont help your ass. lol
cobrakilla1 1 year ago
yeah, no more fire departments or police...fuck highways! fuck bridges! fuck the military! fuck hospital emergency rooms! fuck 911! fuck dumb ignorant faggots from boston that don't have a fucking clue what socialism is! fuck the coast guard and all military! DOWN WITH SOCIALISM! DOWN WITH SOCIETY!
baronderothchild 1 year ago
Anarchy of yoda! :)
insanityisagift 1 year ago
shut the fuck up
dsjj251 1 year ago
HEY the state unforced car insurance made the cost go down. oh wait no it didn't it just keeps going up and up so why believe the lies WAKE UP AMERICA
eredy 1 year ago
BS - you don't HAVE TO DRIVE - it is a choice - healthcare is no longer a choice!!
lenny380 1 year ago
thats because car insurance comps can still pick and chose who they cover its not the same
cobrakilla1 1 year ago
@cobrakilla1 no they allways ssy if everyone gets it it willgo down it has nothing to do with what ur talking about in this health care u can pick but its a scam
eredy 1 year ago
Virginia passed a bill that so that if obamacare passes they wont have to take part in it.
its is absolutely ABSURD that the govt should be able to force someone into having health insurance!~
nubemuffin 1 year ago 4
@nubemuffin
the government is NOT forcing anyone to have health insurance. you have the option of not carrying insurance and then you can pay a fine.
there. your problem (and misperception) is solved.
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
yes that is what i meant. What right does the govt have to fine me for not having health insurance! that is a direct violation of my rights. The Government has no say in how i treat my body. This is my body, not theirs.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
you pay the government a "fine" every year. it's called taxes.
you pay it for groceries, your house even your water. and "we the people" through the united states constitution gave that right to federal, state, county and even municipal governments for since 1913.
where have you been?
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure
Fine: a sum of money imposed as a penalty for an offense or dereliction: a parking fine.
Since when is not wanting the Govt to babysit
you worthy of being punished?
Fines and Taxes are completely different. It is absurd
that i will be "taxed" more heavily if i dont agree
with and go along with Obama's health care
bill. Would you like it if you were fined for not
supporting Iraq War?
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
you're not being taxed more because you disagree
you're being taxed so others don't have to pay for your triple bi-pass
my tax dollars go to iraq, whether i agree or not
and so it should be, it's called democracy
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure its not a tax! it is a fine!
I will have to pay taxes on this health care shit anyways.
if i choose not to used obamacare or any health
insurance i will have to pay a fine on top of that.
This is not democracy.You pay Taxes on the Iraq War, How
would you like to be fined on top of that because
you disagree with its motives?
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
call it a fine or call it a tax, it's all the same when you write the check
and this "obamacare" stuff is just more right-wing, looney-tunes, lies
what we have is etna, blue cross, kaiser etc & that's what we'll still have
excepted they can't drop u when u get sick & i can stay on my parents plan, no more lifetime caps & i don't have to pay for your bi-pass
lastly, u pay a fine for not carrying insurance, not for your beliefs.
what u said was, no offense, just a lie
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure ugh....
listen, i will have to pay taxes on all government
funded things. But it is not fair that if i choose
to opt out of obamacare that i should have
to pay a fine on top of that. If you dont want
to pay for my bi-pass than perhaps you should
promote socialized medicine because if it
passes than you wont just be paying for mine...
you'll be paying for everyone elses as well.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
again, more lies. there is no obamacare to opt out of
all there is is kaiser, blue cross, etna etc.
why keep lying?
it's simple, if you don't get private insurance, you pay a fine
so i don't have to pay for your triple bi-pass or prostate surgery
no socialized medicine, no obamacare, just common sense.
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure wtf dude...
if i dont get insurance then NO ONE will
pay for my triple bi-pass. NO ONE besides
MYSELF which is the way it should be. This
so called "health care reform" is socialized
medicine.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
bro, if you don't get insurance & get sick, in an emergency room where you need a life-saving $1.5 M bi-pass, the hospital must do it - and we all pay for your irresponsibility. this happens every day in every hospital in america and hospitals make everyone pay while preventing you from getting insurance.
blue cross, etna, kaiser r capitalist, profit-making business, we're regulating them - that's just common sense, not socialism
the only socialized medicine in america is the va
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure with this new obamacarfe
im goin to have to pay for it in taxes anyways.m
My health is MY responsibility not yours, not the governments.
People who support this only do so because
they are to lazy to be self reliant.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
lies, lies and more lies.
you can't take responsibility for your own catastrophic illness since you can't get health insurance with a pre-existing condition and unless you've amassed a vast personal fortune, you can't pay for your own treatment.
these are facts, these are realities
what you have is only lies and distortions
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure If you don't want a catastrophic
accident to happen to you perhaps you should
have been more responsible with you life beforehand
..... any support for this nonsense is only
an excuse to be irresponsible.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
wow. how truly ignorant are you? tell me how being "responsible with you life" will prevent you from growing old? getting congenital cancer? parkinsons disease, rheumatoid arthritis, tuberculosis?
careful, the words you use to condemn other, may come to haunt you
only a fool believes responsible people don't get sick
however, health care will protect us all, even the fools
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure HA! its funny how
you change the "medical assistance" needed
all this time beforehand you've been talking about
bi-pass surgery's which is caused by unhealthy
eating habits. Also you should be responsible
in your younger years by saving up money so
when you older you can take care of your self.
stop being irresponsible... stop relying on the
government to take care of you.... you don't live
with mommy anymore.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
yes, i admit ur right. i went from bi-pass to catastrophic illness. why? cuz i'm intellectually honest
however, since health care covers health, not just bi-pass or viagra, catastrophic illness the appropriate response to ur specious &, no offense, foolish "responsibility" point
again, only a fool believes "saving" can protect u from the astronomical cost of catastrophic illness which can strike at any age
mommy notwithstanding, we can't let fools write health care
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
wow, lie, after fabrication, after changing the topic and on and on.
so, you built your own roads? power your own house? pick your own food? build your own schools, librarys, traffic lights and deploy your own personal army, navy, air force or marine corp?
do you support government involvement in the lives of pregnant women? gay marriage? military service? terri schiavo?
ur government involvement argument is a hypocritical lie.
ur personal responsibility argument is foolish
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure Sorry but this comment
made absolutely no sense at all.
I think that the government should have as little
influence in peoples personal lives as possible.
I believe that the government is potentially
corrupt and therefore should have as little power
as possible. NOT the power to determine
who lives and who dies.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
i agree that government should have as little influence in peoples lives as possible
i agree that government is potentially corrupt
i agree that government should not have the power to determine who lives and who dies (why i don't support the death penalty)
but none of this is an argument against health care reform.
because i also don't trust the power of massive corporations
only the government has power over them.
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure The dollar bill has control over the massive corporations. If we do not like what they are doing we have the choice to abandon them, We do not have that choice when it comes to the government.... well we do, but it would be a bit more bloody.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
though i agree we don't have the choice to abandon government we can vote them out.
the dollar bill did not force the auto industry to install seat belts or airbags, didn't create child labor laws, didn't stop chemical companies from dumbing carcinogens in our air & drinking water, didn't break-up the monopoly power of standard oil,
& it would not stop the "health" insurance industry killing tens of thousands by denying insurance
government did all that
there's a role for both
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure yeah but with this health care bill it is going to be practically impossible to get rid of, there is no walking away from this.
Also i do not believe that it is the governments position to make car companies install seat belts.... if i want a care with seat belts then ill buy one. the government should not enforce babysitting laws. By not wearing a seat belt i endanger one person, me. if i am willing to endanger my self than that is my fault an my responsibility, not govco's
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure the health insurance companies are killing allot less people than the federal government is going to after it bankrupts the insurance companies and then realizes that it can afford this preposterous plan.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
"health insurance companies are killing allot less people than the federal gov't"
this is a complete lie
40,000 die each year because they were denied coverage & ending this horror SHOULD be "practically impossible to get rid of"
insurance companies
- deny coverage to children
- drop coverage if get really ill
- stop paying if your illness is costly
- spend premiums on deception instead of care
to say it's "preposterous" to stop this is just delusional lunacy or vapid ignorance
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure If you are foolish enough
to not buy health care or save up enough
than it is no ones fault but you own when
you get struck with some "catastrophic" illness.
People need to suffer consequences for making
bad decisions.... it is what inspires them to
make good decisions in the future.
"We can't let fools write health care"
to late.... obama's bill passed.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
facts and truth make no difference to the mad and blind
not one of your arguments make any sense at all
you have to know it, but something angry and dark inside you makes you hold firm to something you must know is complete nonesense
rational people don't say, "save up your money so you can pay for brain surgery and then live in poverty"
something has gone wrong in your life to make you so angry & irrational
its sad and i'm sorry bro
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure ugh.... listen if you don't
want to save up then buy insurance by your own
free will! its your CHOICE! and that is the way it should be.
When before now has the Federal government
ever forced someone to buy a service?? it is
in complete violation of the constitution.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure So then it's a violation of the Constitution then..."Obey My Mandate or pay a fine." I guarantee that it wont be called a "fine" in the Bill because that would constitute a blatant violation wouldn't it... There is no basis in the Constitution, Declaration, or Any of our founding laws, principles, or philosophies for this "healthcare" swindle. As soon as they have the votes to pass it, the repeal process will begin.
wideawake123 1 year ago
@wideawake123
the mandate is not only completely constitutional, mandates or fines have been a part of the rule of law since the nation was founded
moreover mandates, fines and fees existed even before personal income tax, which was added to the constitution in 1913
ur claims are just lies and deceit used to rally the irrational racist bigots who spit and scream hate and who are currently the center of the political right
it's sad & wrong
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
@jasonsadventure If The Liar Obama can with a stroke of a pen do away with a Contstitutional Statute...What is that called? Just answer, don't get fancy with me. When the President changes Constitutional Law with an executive order, what has our Executive become?
It's a very short answer...and I'll wait.
wideawake123 1 year ago
@wideawake123
isn't it interesting how those who embrace lies are the first to call others "liar"
1- no constitutional statute was done away with - that's a lie
2- no constitutional law was changed with executive order - that's a lie
there. nothing fancy and very short. just like you asked.
jasonsadventure 1 year ago
They force you 2 have car insurance,yet i dont hear you bitching about that.
cobrakilla1 1 year ago
@cobrakilla1 actually i do bitch about that...
Although car insurance is completely different.
Car insurance is forced on people for the same
reason that speed limits are. For the safety of
others... not the safety of yourself.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
REPUBLICANS, The Party of "NO":
Eat your heart out..!!!!!!!!
Health Reform is here..!
PERIZ99 1 year ago
@PERIZ99 Start saving for bribes to have your surgeries done.
BlueSkies360 1 year ago
Blue: I disagree with you, but let's wait and see..!
PERIZ99 1 year ago
We are going to shut this country down Kiss your bank account goodbye Taxes and revenues will drop There will be nothing bought or sold Nothing but fiat money to wallpaper your wall with!
BeantownJim 1 year ago
PUBLIC OPTION?
treid100182 1 year ago
YAY FOR HEALTH CARE!!
pigballs911 1 year ago 3
What a joke.
Will the illegal aliens that will be using this healthcare be paying taxes to off-set the added cost or will the American people just be expected to take up the difference?
midevalcheese 1 year ago
im a orc
chaosdragon1212 1 year ago
WELCOME TO obamas
UNITED SOCIALIST STATES OF AMERICA
ryen1992 1 year ago 2
"Culture war"?? What about the CLASS WARFARE THE GOP HAS BEEN CONDUCTING FOR 50 YEARS AGAINST THE MIDDLE CLASS OF AMERICA! When did healthy AMERICANS become evil? WHEN?
hunterswine 1 year ago
too late republicans, too late...
telepylus111 1 year ago
@telepylus111 Too late for republicans, but not for the public!
kingx989 1 year ago
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"Opted-out"?!
Fuck you Slaughter you lying whore.
If you were ever worried about giving people the opportunity to opt-out, then you wouldn't be trying to foist this Socialist bullshit onto ever man, woman and child in the country.
IRONMANAustralia 1 year ago
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The desolation of Obama Nation is upon us...G-d please forgive us for giving away a once free nation...
Temple420org 1 year ago
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@Temple420org Forgive but not forget that worthless twobit fraud Odrama. Everyone of those in power will come down, soon
jerdeb4evr 1 year ago
@jerdeb4evr 32018
the number of his Kenyan birth certificate
Temple420org 1 year ago
At what point does 3/4s of the American People saying "NO/HELL NO!" register with these idiots? The Republicans are the only ones who seem to be listening. "The cards we've been dealt" are garbage...and any card player knows you Dont Play Garbage Cards...This entitlement is a loser. We dont have the money and our children Certainly wont have the money to pay for this. This nonedense of 10 years spending and robbing Medicare for 6 years of Obamacare is a Keynesian Nightmare. "You Lie!"-J. Wilson
wideawake123 1 year ago 2
At what point do you stop inventing imaginary statistics?
All of the polls show Americans are in favor of health care reform and the public option.
xxxFaustusxxx 1 year ago
@xxxYes, to health reform, but overwhelmingly NO to government option. Are you a loser?
BlueSkies360 1 year ago
@xxxFaustusxxx yes they are for healthcare refom. but not socialized healthcare. And public option is government ran healthcare aka socialized healthcare.
If we turn over the injustice the insurance companies do to the america to the government, then where do we go to sue the government for their injustice they'll do on the American people in denying life saving treatment.
There'll be no or nowhere to turn to.
as it is in europe and canada. The people are totally screwed.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 1 year ago
@MrSTANDFORAMERICA
All of the polls show Americans are in favor of the public option,
xxxFaustusxxx 1 year ago
@xxxFaustusxxx No, they don't. They show the exact opposite and either you are wildly misinformed and as such unqualified to comment on this issue, or are an outright liar, who should be exposed as such.
3/15/10 Rasmussen polled as a generic question, 43% in favor of Healthcare Reform. 53% Oppose Healthcare Reform. Now, would you like specific poll #s regarding the "Affordable Healthcare Act"? You Lied.
wideawake123 1 year ago
@wideawake123
Rasmussen has a known conservative bias. All other polls show that Americans support the public option.
xxxFaustusxxx 1 year ago
@xxxFaustusxxx Probly the same people that voted Obama in to office.
OBAMASTINIAN 1 year ago
hmmm gee....
rasmussenreports latest poll show that only 43% of americans are for the health care bill while 53% oppose it.... ALL the polls? you big dummy.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
Check the average of all polls at realclearpolitcs.
You will find that most Americans want health care reform.
jensen1901 1 year ago
@jensen1901 i just did..... and um....
and the poll under "Obama and democrats
health care plan" show that the majority of
Americans oppose the health care bill.
the highest numbers i could find for the
democrats were 45 for it, and 49 against it
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@jensen1901 Dude...stop making shit up! The people are protesting on the streets! The Phone lines are JAMMED AT THE cAPITOL...I Know, I tried all day to get through. Any Congressman who's in a borderline district or Senator who votes "yea" is getting fired in Nov. Scott Brown was elected in the Bluest State there is...To the Kennedy seat on thye basis that he'd be the 41st "No" vote. America Hates this Bill.
wideawake123 1 year ago
rasmussen reports has a known conservative bias. Check out all the other polls - all the other polls show the opposite.
xxxFaustusxxx 1 year ago
@xxxFaustusxxx NBC News has it 36 in favor and
48 against it.....
Associated press has it 41 for it and 43 against it
Gallup has it 45 for it and 48 against it.
Pew Reasearch has it 38 for it and 48 against it.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
Sources please.
Also, this is referring to the public option, correct? Not the current plan.
xxxFaustusxxx 1 year ago
@xxxFaustusxxx no, this is a poll on
"@xxxFaustusxxx no this is a poll on
"Obama and Democrats' Health Care Plan"
my source is from realclearpolitics webpage.
Just go to there sit then click on the map you see
then click on health care and it should take you
to all the polls.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
@nubemuffin
My original comment was a response to polls concerning the public option, not the current health care plan.
xxxFaustusxxx 1 year ago
@xxxFaustusxxx this is a video about the
current health care plan. The American people
do not want this shit obama has thrown together.
We want REAL reform.... not Govt takeover of
health care.
nubemuffin 1 year ago
They may be in favor of reform but that does not mean they are in favor of this particular bill.
mssedmebich 1 year ago
Rasmussen poll shows 53% strongly disapprove while 48% approve. Gallup poll 44% disapprove while 39% approve. 55% want to scarp the bill. 57% think it will hurt the economy. 55% think it will make cost go up while 18% think cost will go down. Obama's approval rating 44% strongly disapprove while 23% approve.
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
@CosmoHunter24 Yes they are. there are really but a few million that want this socialized government take over of healthcare. And that's mostly a bunch of euro's that vote on all these internet polls.
They feel the USA should be dragged down to their 3rd world way of life.
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
@CosmoHunter24 Socialized healthcare. The government taxes as awell mandates that I buy healthcare. While making laws that will shut down all private healthcare providers, leaving only the government ran healthcare to buy from.
sorry kid that's called socialized healthcare.
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
@CosmoHunter24 Fuck you and die you lying piece of shit(I'm Drunk). Your unborn grandchildren fucking despise you for this. This Bill Makes them SLAVES.
10 years of TAXING US AND CUTTING OUR PARENTS MEDICARE pays for 6 years of "Obamacare"(It sounds so sunny and fresh..."obamacare")
So 60 years of Taxes pay for 36 years "obamacare". We Hate you!
wideawake123 1 year ago
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
Are you old enough to get medicare? Don't think so. your not poor enough to get medicaid, you can afford a p/c and the internet.
can anyone and everyone get on medicare or medicaid? Nope again. is everyone mandated to get on medicare or medicaid? And nope again.
Come back when you have learned what socialized healthcare is.
MrSTANDFORAMERICA 1 year ago
thats right when this passes everyone will STILL not have healthcare. And the middle class will fit MOST of the bill not the rich as Obama said would happen.
lenny380 1 year ago
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
Low middle class will have to pay monthly!!! Even if you don't want it. Most Americans are middle class and they will be paying monthly hence they will fit most of the bill.
lenny380 1 year ago
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
Bullshit!! Your employer will drop your insurance when the Government can give it to you cheaper!! Why can't you get that??
lenny380 1 year ago
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
@MrSTANDFORAMERICA Your comments are right on the money dude...keep it up.
wideawake123 1 year ago
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
@CosmoHunter24 I said 3/4. I should have said 73%(happy now?) are specifically against this Healthcare Bill.
I've been out drinking all night so I'm not going to search which poll those #s come from(probably Ras.), but they reflect the # of people who are for scrapping the current Bill and starting over and those who are for scrapping the whole mess altogether.
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CosmoHunter24 1 year ago
@CosmoHunter24 You Fuck! You called me "liar"? Who are those tens of thoudans of people on the streets today?! The combine numbers as I said last night equal 73%. That on 2 questions in the same poll:
1. Should this Bill be scrapped and started over? 36%
2. Should this Bill be scrapped entirely? 37%
=73%
"Real Clear" is that 80% of Americans are happy with the plan they have Now.
Your unborn grandchildren ask me to give you a message...."FUCK YOU!!!"
wideawake123 1 year ago
Yes Democrats, pass the Bill so we can spend the next 8 years REPEALING IT!! Pass it for the children who havent been born yet that will have to pay for our mistakes. 10 years of Taxes and Medicare Cuts, to pay for 6 years of healthcare...or 60 years of Taxes for 36 years of healthcare. That's the Math. 60 years from now, America will be paying for this entitlement, but the entitlement will have run out 24 years hence! This is reprehensible. The Repulicans are on the right side of History here.
wideawake123 1 year ago
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America to our Representatives...
SHOVE HEALTHCARE UP YOUR HALF BRED ASS
jerdeb4evr 1 year ago
yeah man, FUCK BEING HEALTHY.
another big mac, please! woo america #1!
enuvune 1 year ago
Idiot. If people want to eat a Big Mac, then that and the consequences are their fucking business.
Muhammad Ali didn't choose a lifestyle that leads to long-term health either. But I wouldn't take away his right to choose.
You idiots whine about health when it comes to Big Macs, but I don't hear you whining about snowboarding. Either way, who the fuck are you to decide if the risks are paid for by other people?
What you really mean is "FUCK BEING FREE" - just like Obama does.
IRONMANAustralia 1 year ago 2
totally, bro. who gives a shit about people who can't afford health insurance. america was founded on not giving a damn about the personal welfare of others. it's their fault they're poor.
enuvune 1 year ago