noon sabi ng lola ko..mga babae dumarating na ang mga haponmagsitago kayo baka ma-rape kayo....ngayon sabi ng mga nanay mga babae nag silabas kayo at may mga hapon na dumarating mag apply kayo sa japan ..japayuki..dancer.
What??? Everyone talks about "remembering" Filipino history, yet those same fucktards totally FORGET about the AMERICAN Concentration Camps that mass murdered Filipino men, women and children during the Philippine American War. Looks like the Americans did a lot of Whitewashing during their COLONIAL occupation of the Philippines. People forget that Filipinos were already invaded, murdered and conquered long before the Japanese ever arrived. You are either a hypocrite, ignorant moron, or both.
The scoundrel Iwabuchi disobeyed Yamashita's orders and destroyed Manila. MacAthur did not know his enemy. Remember, he was a compadre to President Quezon. Surrounding the enemy and leaving no escape route sealed Manila's fate. Killing innocent civilians was a war crime. Yet, later, we dropped the atomic bomb killing ultimately around 485,000 civilians, which included 25000 Koreans and three American POWs. Please read Yamashita's final words.
Gee, i never saw this real video! It was something to see without actors! Americans did not want to play - so brave ! so willing to fight! Filipinos were so lucky to get rescued then. Good job camera man! Amazing, it is real history on tape!
and the "i shall return" thing is just for PR.. but the truth is he is escaping..and the japanese were almost done before macarthur returned.. read about it from an american historian
this is American propaganda. it is one-sided. Does not show 1000,000 civilians dead, some by US guns, bombs or artillery. US and even Philippine media claims MacArthur didn't use airpower to bomb Manila but this was a lie
@AccordGTR MacArthur may not have used his Army airpower on Manila but the US Navy certainly bombed it; they hit it relentlessly before MacArthur's forces even landed on Luzon. I don't doubt that Filipinos were killed by our forces; sadly, civilian casualties were unavoidable in this kind of combat.
@galoon not only small navy bombers but we are talking B-24 "Liberators" (the irony of that name, inline with US propaganda - brilliant) from the 307th bomber group. I read blogs from actual eyewitnesses of the B-24's over Manila and went over to the #07th bomber group website and lo and behold, it shows targets in Manila on Jan. 9, 1945. Battle of Manila started March 3 to April 3 1945. Why did McArthur have to lie they used airpower? Its even in Philippine websites of the battle.
@AccordGTR Interesting--the use of Army Air Corps bombers there is news to me. MacArthur wasn't exactly the most honest person who ever lived. Still, you don't believe we were deliberately trying to kill Filipinos, do you?
@galoon Of course not but I believe US foreign policy kills millions of innocent people needlessly, which is just as bad.
Because of US propaganda, Filipino's believe that the Americans "liberated" us from the Japs, which is the same line given to the Europeans. However, unlike the French, we were under American rule for more than 40 years.
The practice of propaganda was well established by the US in the 1920-30's with US military hiring Edward Bernays, the father of the PR campaign.
@AccordGTR Oh, I agree--I've got a WWII documentary on the Philippines that was made in the 1950s that even exceeds the BS factor on this one, if you can believe it! Basically, neither the US nor the Japanese had utopian designs for the Philippines. But the 1944-45 campaign wasn't like our postwar screw-ups that kill innocent people through incompetence and neglect, this was a case of civilians being caught in the middle of an all-out war, with no safe place to go, as you well know.
@galoon umm, what war has had no civilian casualties? anyway my point is that people should try to ascertain what is propaganda and what is the truth so that they can decide for themselves whether it is worth fighting and dying for. I do not want my country (Philippines) to be in the middle of another battle between superpowers for the third time but it looks like we are headed in that direction. When it does, I want us to be ready, to learn from history and survive the war
@CSATexan I dunno about that. All I know is about the broken promises of the Americans. Like when Admiral Dewey promised General Aguinaldo the US would honor PH independence if the Filipinos helped defeat the Spaniards in 1898. or the broken promise our WW2 veterans would receive benefits having served under the US. They had to sue the US govt and eventually won but it was only after 60 years after many had already passed away.
@CSATexan Sigh, it seems I am talking with a schoolboy from Arkansas.
General Tomoyuki Yamashita had some 430,000 troops stationed in the PI, while Japanese naval leaders were prepared to commit the entire battle fleet to defend it. They believed if the Americans could be stopped here, then perhaps the entire tide of the war could be changed or, at least, Japan's position greatly strengthened.
You wanna bypass 430,000 crack troops and attack Formosa nearby, schoolboy?
@CSATexan More schooling huh? You gotta stop looking at the propaganda! You are no Admiral or General.
In June 1944 Japan had 9 carriers, 1700 planes in Singapore, 500 in Marianas against 6 US carriers with only 896 planes.
Research the Battle of the Philippine Sea before wasting my time, ok? That was the last and greatest carrier battle of all time. The PI is the center of the War in the Pacific.
@CSATexan "Liberation of the PI" was just propaganda - it was a strategic need, not humanitarian. If the US tried to attack Japan directly in 1944, her carriers would be torpedo'd by Jap subs then her task force sunk with land-based bombers. The only way to attack the homeland was with strategic bombers but then you need a base within range of the bombers and you need to protect the base from attack. Don't forget you need a well-protected supply line and oil. This is what dictated strategy.
@CSATexan Oil/gas were only produced in US, Indonesia and Malaysia.
"East" u mean the Doolittle raid? that was nothing - a PR stunt.
The first strategic bombers attack on Japan was B-29's from China June 1944 but it was too far that they couldn't carry maximum bombload. In order to get closer for more effective bombing, US had to capture Marianas and Guam.
To invade Japan they needed Iwo and Okinawa. Leaving the Jap Army intact in the PI would make that impossible. Hence the island hopping
@CSATexan Guam and Okinawa are tiny islets compared to the PI. Sure US can take them. Then what? Leave their flanks open to attack? This is not Vietnam where you attack then withdraw. Defeating Japan meant you have to attack then hold and protect your rear and flanks so you can advance to the Jap mainland. US in Asia because of natural resources and trade. For this it needs to control the sea lanes. Skipping over Jap-held territory was not an option.
@CSATexan Uh, hello! If US attacked Japan directly from Guam or Marianas, Japan forces from the PI can attack their bases in the Marianas, cut off their supply lines so the US task force has to sail back to Midway or Pearl and start all over again. US had to sink the Jap carriers first. And the Japs chose the PI to make their stand, remember?
Come on, try to learn naval war strategy. Not everybody can be an Admiral or a General you know.
@CSATexan "Liberation" is a propaganda term. US merely took back one of their outposts in the Pacific because it is strategic for their empire in Asia.
US invaded and occupied Japan after their surrender. McArthur put his HQ there even during the Korean War.
US supplies are mostly finished goods but where do you think US gets most of its raw materials, cheap labor and wealth? It comes from abroad. Heard of Manila hemp? its the raw material for all the ropes of the US Navy.
@CSATexan Manila hemp was just an example of the raw materials that helped the US war effort. The PI was the US largest military base outside of the US mainland before 1941. It was the PI that gave the US its first colonial territory in Asia in 1898 when the European powers owned most of Asia and South Pacific. Without the PI, America would not have become what the US is today.
@CSATexan You seem to ignore that fact that the US Task Force will run out of bullets, bombs, fuel, planes and pilots if they do not get resupplied.after a major battle. It is not a video game where you have unlimited bullets. It is not a nuclear carrier where you don't need to refuel and re-arm. You need support like hospital ships, food, uniforms, tankers, transports, airbases, etc. You can't sustain a campaign with out that
@CSATexan MacArthur felt that way. He felt, with good reason, that to leave a Japanese army and air force of 200,000+ troops on the Philippines in his rear as the US advanced to Okinawa and Iwo Jima was dangerous. Guam didn't come into the picture here, as it fell about 3 months before US troops landed in the Philippines.
@CSATexan To the west of what? Okinawa and Iwo Jima? If you look at your map you'll see that the Philippines are to the south of these islands, and definitely in the American rear, strategically speaking. Japanese bombers and Kamikaze units based at Manila and other Philippine airfields had an attack range of hundreds of miles. The Japanese could also have conceivably reinforced Okinawa and Iwo with troops via submarine, aircraft, and/or transport from the PI.
@CSATexan That's why they occupied Iwo Jima and Okinawa--as emergency bases for crippled B-29s returning from raids on Japan. And MacArthur felt it was a strategically sound idea to occupy the PI before doing that. Another big reason was that US possession of the PI had the effect of cutting Japan off from her oil and iron ore sources in the East Indies. US subs were already doing this to a point, but taking the PI further constricted Japanese supply routes, making the subs more effective.
@CSATexan Another consideration was the fact that B-29s based on Okinawa could carry a much greater bombload over Japan, because they didn't need to carry all that fuel that was required in raids originating from Guam and Tinian. Plus, the occupation of Okinawa/Iwo Jima allowed fighters to be based there so they could provide escort over Japan for the bombers. The Marianas were too far from Japan to allow this.
@CSATexan The B-29 raids had nothing to do with the PI, true. But in the strategic picture, the Philippines were crucial. If we'd bypassed the PI and occupied Okinawa/Iwo Jima as a stepping-off point for the invasion of Japan, we'd have had a tenuous sea supply line 1,600 miles long, from the Marianas to Okinawa. The Japanese could have attacked our troop transports and supply vessels by air and sea from the Philippines while they were en route.
MacArthur himself saw the invasion of Japan as a bad idea. And that was without the foreknowledge of the Japanese defensive build up.
While it was true that Japan could have inflicted some damage on our troops from the PI it would have been small in comparison to the causalities that the US took during the liberation of the PI
Just look at a Map battle after battle was being fought so the US could advance towards Japan. The PI is in the wrong direction.
It is safe to assume that you are not a General, you can't even see that the PI was a means for Japan to move South towards Australia. By 1944 that was no longer the case.
Japan was reduced to defending their home islands.
The destruction of Intramuros was mostly due to the American bombardment. But I don't think it could have been avoided since the Japs chose to make their last stand inside the city and civilians were trapped because bridges had already been blown by the Japs.
@lakibull if you read English, European or American history, you will see castles and forts that were attacked were first starved by a long siege. But the US could not wait. They wanted to get back the PH because it was just an outpost to them and to hell with civilians casualties...what is more important is to save American lives so US Fleet can use the PH to eventually attack Japan. That is my point - Filipino civilians are not as important as US interests.
the reason why usa went in manila. is because japan was getting strong and filipinas has alot of islands that can be use as one of the best navy base thats why spanish liked filipinas but they never ever stablished a navy base like they did in guam, puerto rico and hawaii
McArthur ordered na no heavy artillery fire para hindi masira ung mga buildings at walang madamay na civilian. pero dahil sa isa -isa ng napipitas yung mga tropang Kano dahil sa snipers at sneak attacks ng mga Japs, napilitan siyang i-cancel ung order nyang yon. kaya ayan nasira yung city.
@serbetli100 Conventional bombs killed a lot more Japanese civilians than the two A-bombs did. Civilian casualties due to bombing in WWII were unavoidable. It's not like US commanders were targeting civilians specifically--the Germans were the only ones who did that, in the Blitz and the V1 and V2 attacks on Britain. I doubt if there was a realistic alternative to our bombing raids on Japan as a means of shortening the war.
@galoon I don't believe it. FDR and Truman were not even considering the japs as humans. They were considering the japs as some inferior primates. They just tested their new weapon A-bombs on those experimental animals of the japs to threaten USSR. That's the truth.
I can't help tearing up a bit watching this. All the lives lost... the economy and industries disrupted, and many cultural heritage leveled to the ground. We've lost so much. I hope we can still save, nurture and build upon what the war had left intact.
Hindi rin cguro natin masisi ang mga Kano sa ginawa nila, kasi wla na silang choice, nagha-harakiri na ang mga hapon everywhere, may panahon pa ba sa diplomasya? History is more complicated than it looks.
Siguro ang nangyari, kung hindi madaan sa santong dasalan (diplomacy) dinaan na lang ng mga Kano sa santong paspasan -extermination of all Jap soldiers in sight. But the price had been the destruction of Manila, its century-old buildings with great historical value. Maybe that's why after the war when the Japs and Americans had left, the Filipino's felt that some part of their identity has lost (and even until now).
This video purportedly narrated by an American soldier shows that the americans are washing their hands. that they do not have something to do with the destruction of manila. Binibigyan diin talaga nila na ang mga hapon ang may kasalanan. Whether the Japs will invade the Philippines or not, had we not have been a US territory or not, we may never know. My big question is, had Mcarthur did not declare Manila as an open city, will it made a difference.
all of you forget that actually the U.S. did same thing to the Philippines in the end of 19th century. Read Reynaldo Ileto's "Wars with the US and Japan." The US is just another colonizer of the Philippines. Actually, over 30% of Filipino cilivilian casualities in "liberation of Manila" were caused by American army.
You know what is sad about Manila? The Japanese Army had orders to pull out and leave the city to be Open to the Americans! But the stupid Imperial Navy/Marines claim they did not receive such orders to pull out!!! Even tho they saw the Imperial Army pulling out of Manila.... If it is anyone fault it is Imperial Japan and its stupid Navy/Imperial Marines for staying and fighting.....
THE AMERICANS ANS THE JAPS ARE THE PROTAGONISTS DURING THE WAR AND THEY MADE MANILA AND THE REST OF THE PHILIPPINES THEIR PLAYGROUND..EVERYBODY IS A MONSTER DURING WARS...THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS BENEVOLENT KILLERS
@CSATexan ...cuz the US promised independence (Tydings-McDuffie Act of 1934) in 1944. So it was either help the Americans to win our independence (since it was already US Federal Law by then), or help the Japs and risk everything we had worked for since our war with the US in 1899-1902 where over 1 million of us died. What would you have done?
@po3jet If we did not liberated your homeland.....you would have been speaking Japanese or worse DEAD! War is Hell.... But Hell would have been far worse worse under the continuing Japanese Occupation....
@11B30Inf no mister, had the americans not gone to our country, we would not have been dragged to the war in the first place .. we don't owe you our liberty .. it was your duty to liberate us ..
@attybong ....Your stupidity astounds me! My Daughter in Law is Filipino and I talk to her Father and Mother! If they could heard the bullshit you are spouting they would beat you an inch of your miserable life asshole! You would have been a fucking collaborator for the Japaneses won't you punk? The Japanese would invaded your Country no matter if we are there or not! You Country is in the way of Indonesia and Australia! You are fuck sick little man with pure hate in his heart....
@11B30Inf you are the one who is STUPID ... look at your english, you cannot even get it right ... americano ka ba talaga o nalahian lang ng negrong bungal at panot ... there is nothing personal here big boy ... just an opinion from a FILIPINO whose country had been unnecessarily devastated by the war ... put this in your coconut you bully ... i am neither a pro jap but, culled from your comment, it seems that it is you who has hatred in your heart against the japs ...
@11B30Inf by the way ... it would be better if you show your face .. don't hide behind an ALIAS and put this in your coconut you bully ... i am neither a pro jap but, culled from your own comment, it seems that it is you who has hatred in your heart against the japs ... you are the one who is sick, really really sick .. you cannot even respect other people's opinion especially those whose race you have insulted ...
@attybong ....Your right! I don' respect your opinion! And in the first place you're the one calling them Japs bub! If you look in any remarks boy genius not once I use the the Japs! Now if you what to nick pick my remarks for using cuss words go right ahead. I still stand in my last remarks about you..... besides Opinion are like assholes......everyone got one!
@attybong What the hell is your problem bub? You better grow a thick skin in here when you post stupid ass remarks boy genius!!! If you can't take any criticism in here of YouTube then you should leave immediately bonehead! As for my so call alias ....that is NONE of your fucking business boy wonder! When little shitheads make threats on your family it is a smart idea to use avatar names instead of your real one bub!
@attybong Actually that's not true. In my opinion, the location of the Philippines is enough for the Japanese to invade it even if the the Americans didn't go to the Philippines. Japan needed places near their country to supply them with oil and natural resources for the war. The fact that the Philippines not only has natural resources, but it's also located close to Japan, makes it a very convenient place for them.
@attybong your opinion is a opinion of a grade 1 student!! you faggot asshole! i think you dont even know what world war 2 is!!!!! you fucking moron!!
The japanese emperial army in WWII are MONSTERS, no words can explain how bad this people were.Killing innocent civilians,especially the babies and children. They dont believe in God, hope this will not happen again. no more wars!
@MultiDemon55 They were selected for the A-bomb attacks because most of the other major Japanese cities from Tokyo on down had already been leveled by B-29s carrying conventional bombs and incendiaries, while Hiroshima and Nagasaki had suffered little damage.
yes..the Filipino soldiers have offered safe passage to US soldiers during WW2, they have fought side by side and died fighting for freedom,but where is America now?..they have abandoned the Philippines favoring Middle East countries with billions of aids..sad history of old friendship..
@TheAcer925 What is it you want from US! You wanted your independence from us and we give it to you as promise at the end of WWII. Now you are complaining we have abandon you??? Its up to the Philippine people if they want us to help them! And so far many Filipinos don't agree with your abandon BS.......
@mednikash my grandmother, a young Filipino-Chinese maiden at the time, lived in Chinatown during these terrifying days. She recalled her heart jumped with every gunfire and explosion. One day, Japanese soldiers entered the Binondo district and force-entered houses and killed everyone in sight with no remorse. She and her family hid in another house to be safe. According to her, she was almost shot by a Jap sniper. My great granddad pulled her out of the open just in time. She lived till 2006.
Thanks to the American heroes who liberate Manila. MARAMING SALAMAT SA INYONG LAHAT. It was a really sad moment to me as a Pilipino when i watched how the Japanese massacred civilians. Now i believe my mother with her own story what really happen in Manila.
Please be informed that the best of the videos on the Battle of Manila is by Peter Parsons of Baguio, Philippines. It is called Manila 1945: The forgotten Atrocities. It actually includes this color gem which was never finished now shown publicly. Parsons showed it a few years ago in Manila at the Ortigas Library. You can order the video as well as others from: petercparsons@gmail.com.
The philippines would be good nation but the asshole japs ruined it all. Look at the philippines nowadays full of jackass political corruption. If the philippines survive the Commonwealth of the philippines, I guarantee you that your country will be 1st world country.
@emmthreejonny i mean the way the propaganda potray the americans as if they never commited a war crime.an example is the my lai massacre.Well i suppose its to be expected since IT IS a propaganda video :D
@citus333 - Propaganda about what? The truth? Historical facts stories of survivors and witnesses? Everyone committed a war crime (as if war is not already a crime) one way or another but some did under orders.
My Lai massacre was an isolated case. The Imperial Japanese however were ordered by their superiors to do what they did. Besides, they believed they were a superior race in Asia. Just as Hitler wanted to believe the Germans were the superior race in the other side of the world.
@acchacon where did yOu get this anyway?.. it was my dad whO tOLd me tO try tO search this On the net after reading it frOm a newspaper.. yep, its in the LOcaL news paper in cebu.. where dya get this?..^__^
@issahgannee I'm not sure anymore hehe. Usually, mahilig lang ako maghanap sa torrent sites and google after exhausting YouTube. Mahilig lang kasi ako manood sa mga ganitong videos. There's some videos on Cebu I think pero di ko lang na download hehe...
@acchacon i mean this video 'war crimes in manila' was featured in cebu's local news paper.. we searched it to verify if its true.. and we found this..
noon sabi ng lola ko..mga babae dumarating na ang mga haponmagsitago kayo baka ma-rape kayo....ngayon sabi ng mga nanay mga babae nag silabas kayo at may mga hapon na dumarating mag apply kayo sa japan ..japayuki..dancer.
littelgirl699 1 day ago
Woah..! Buti nlang dumating ang sundalo bago lumala ang situation
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What??? Everyone talks about "remembering" Filipino history, yet those same fucktards totally FORGET about the AMERICAN Concentration Camps that mass murdered Filipino men, women and children during the Philippine American War. Looks like the Americans did a lot of Whitewashing during their COLONIAL occupation of the Philippines. People forget that Filipinos were already invaded, murdered and conquered long before the Japanese ever arrived. You are either a hypocrite, ignorant moron, or both.
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history? Japan =causing true pursuit, the South Korea = empty dream, the China = propaganda, and the United States = war how pillage!!
imedia0924 4 days ago
The scoundrel Iwabuchi disobeyed Yamashita's orders and destroyed Manila. MacAthur did not know his enemy. Remember, he was a compadre to President Quezon. Surrounding the enemy and leaving no escape route sealed Manila's fate. Killing innocent civilians was a war crime. Yet, later, we dropped the atomic bomb killing ultimately around 485,000 civilians, which included 25000 Koreans and three American POWs. Please read Yamashita's final words.
wayne487msc 1 week ago
Gee, i never saw this real video! It was something to see without actors! Americans did not want to play - so brave ! so willing to fight! Filipinos were so lucky to get rescued then. Good job camera man! Amazing, it is real history on tape!
ETsonggalaxy 2 weeks ago
shut the fick up luvpump,japs are evil rats end of,idiot!
COLEEN322 2 weeks ago
I wonder how many civilians were killed by American Artillery, or there penchant to shoot at everything with a yellow skin ..
luvpump1 2 weeks ago
and the "i shall return" thing is just for PR.. but the truth is he is escaping..and the japanese were almost done before macarthur returned.. read about it from an american historian
otchowaloeight8 2 weeks ago
this is American propaganda. it is one-sided. Does not show 1000,000 civilians dead, some by US guns, bombs or artillery. US and even Philippine media claims MacArthur didn't use airpower to bomb Manila but this was a lie
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR MacArthur may not have used his Army airpower on Manila but the US Navy certainly bombed it; they hit it relentlessly before MacArthur's forces even landed on Luzon. I don't doubt that Filipinos were killed by our forces; sadly, civilian casualties were unavoidable in this kind of combat.
galoon 1 month ago
@galoon not only small navy bombers but we are talking B-24 "Liberators" (the irony of that name, inline with US propaganda - brilliant) from the 307th bomber group. I read blogs from actual eyewitnesses of the B-24's over Manila and went over to the #07th bomber group website and lo and behold, it shows targets in Manila on Jan. 9, 1945. Battle of Manila started March 3 to April 3 1945. Why did McArthur have to lie they used airpower? Its even in Philippine websites of the battle.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR oops, it's the 307th Bomber Group.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR Interesting--the use of Army Air Corps bombers there is news to me. MacArthur wasn't exactly the most honest person who ever lived. Still, you don't believe we were deliberately trying to kill Filipinos, do you?
galoon 1 month ago
@galoon Of course not but I believe US foreign policy kills millions of innocent people needlessly, which is just as bad.
Because of US propaganda, Filipino's believe that the Americans "liberated" us from the Japs, which is the same line given to the Europeans. However, unlike the French, we were under American rule for more than 40 years.
The practice of propaganda was well established by the US in the 1920-30's with US military hiring Edward Bernays, the father of the PR campaign.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR Oh, I agree--I've got a WWII documentary on the Philippines that was made in the 1950s that even exceeds the BS factor on this one, if you can believe it! Basically, neither the US nor the Japanese had utopian designs for the Philippines. But the 1944-45 campaign wasn't like our postwar screw-ups that kill innocent people through incompetence and neglect, this was a case of civilians being caught in the middle of an all-out war, with no safe place to go, as you well know.
galoon 1 month ago
@galoon umm, what war has had no civilian casualties? anyway my point is that people should try to ascertain what is propaganda and what is the truth so that they can decide for themselves whether it is worth fighting and dying for. I do not want my country (Philippines) to be in the middle of another battle between superpowers for the third time but it looks like we are headed in that direction. When it does, I want us to be ready, to learn from history and survive the war
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
And Japan promised Asia for the Asians.
How did that work out?
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan I dunno about that. All I know is about the broken promises of the Americans. Like when Admiral Dewey promised General Aguinaldo the US would honor PH independence if the Filipinos helped defeat the Spaniards in 1898. or the broken promise our WW2 veterans would receive benefits having served under the US. They had to sue the US govt and eventually won but it was only after 60 years after many had already passed away.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
You do realize that the US could have just bypassed the PI entirely right? As a matter of fact the US could have brokered a deal with Japan,
Give up and we let you have the PI
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan Sigh, it seems I am talking with a schoolboy from Arkansas.
General Tomoyuki Yamashita had some 430,000 troops stationed in the PI, while Japanese naval leaders were prepared to commit the entire battle fleet to defend it. They believed if the Americans could be stopped here, then perhaps the entire tide of the war could be changed or, at least, Japan's position greatly strengthened.
You wanna bypass 430,000 crack troops and attack Formosa nearby, schoolboy?
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
You need to get a grip on reality here.
Just what were the Japanese going to do swim out and attack the US fleet??
By 1944 the Japan no longer had the means for an offensive naval war. It was pretty much destroyed during During the Battle of Midway.
If you bother to look at the US line of advance against Japan. You will see that the PI is on the other side of Iwo Jima.
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan More schooling huh? You gotta stop looking at the propaganda! You are no Admiral or General.
In June 1944 Japan had 9 carriers, 1700 planes in Singapore, 500 in Marianas against 6 US carriers with only 896 planes.
Research the Battle of the Philippine Sea before wasting my time, ok? That was the last and greatest carrier battle of all time. The PI is the center of the War in the Pacific.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
And in 1944 the USA was producing 1 aircraft carrier a month!!!
The only reason the US went back to the Philippians was cause of Macarthur.
The PI is south of Japan, The US is East of Japan.
The advanced towards Japan came from the East and not the west.
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan "Liberation of the PI" was just propaganda - it was a strategic need, not humanitarian. If the US tried to attack Japan directly in 1944, her carriers would be torpedo'd by Jap subs then her task force sunk with land-based bombers. The only way to attack the homeland was with strategic bombers but then you need a base within range of the bombers and you need to protect the base from attack. Don't forget you need a well-protected supply line and oil. This is what dictated strategy.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
What oil line???
The US bombing campaign against Japan came from the east not the South.
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan Oil/gas were only produced in US, Indonesia and Malaysia.
"East" u mean the Doolittle raid? that was nothing - a PR stunt.
The first strategic bombers attack on Japan was B-29's from China June 1944 but it was too far that they couldn't carry maximum bombload. In order to get closer for more effective bombing, US had to capture Marianas and Guam.
To invade Japan they needed Iwo and Okinawa. Leaving the Jap Army intact in the PI would make that impossible. Hence the island hopping
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
Are you trying to say that the US would not have been able to take Guam, Okinawa without first taking the PI???
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan Guam and Okinawa are tiny islets compared to the PI. Sure US can take them. Then what? Leave their flanks open to attack? This is not Vietnam where you attack then withdraw. Defeating Japan meant you have to attack then hold and protect your rear and flanks so you can advance to the Jap mainland. US in Asia because of natural resources and trade. For this it needs to control the sea lanes. Skipping over Jap-held territory was not an option.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
What flank??
It was hundreds of miles from those Islands to the PI. And if Japan had the Ability to stop the US they would have done it.
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan Uh, hello! If US attacked Japan directly from Guam or Marianas, Japan forces from the PI can attack their bases in the Marianas, cut off their supply lines so the US task force has to sail back to Midway or Pearl and start all over again. US had to sink the Jap carriers first. And the Japs chose the PI to make their stand, remember?
Come on, try to learn naval war strategy. Not everybody can be an Admiral or a General you know.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
The US didn't invade Japan after liberating the PI why on earth would they have to do that??
And once again US supplies were not coming from the PI, The US supplies were being spent on the PI.
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan "Liberation" is a propaganda term. US merely took back one of their outposts in the Pacific because it is strategic for their empire in Asia.
US invaded and occupied Japan after their surrender. McArthur put his HQ there even during the Korean War.
US supplies are mostly finished goods but where do you think US gets most of its raw materials, cheap labor and wealth? It comes from abroad. Heard of Manila hemp? its the raw material for all the ropes of the US Navy.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
I am sure that the Bombing of Japan would have continued without a major influx of Manila Hemp
Say I didn't check out your profile till now. You are from the PI???
If so I have a question
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan send me a personal message if it has nothing to do with this video. I will be glad to oblige
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@CSATexan Manila hemp was just an example of the raw materials that helped the US war effort. The PI was the US largest military base outside of the US mainland before 1941. It was the PI that gave the US its first colonial territory in Asia in 1898 when the European powers owned most of Asia and South Pacific. Without the PI, America would not have become what the US is today.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
I sent you a PM.
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan You seem to ignore that fact that the US Task Force will run out of bullets, bombs, fuel, planes and pilots if they do not get resupplied.after a major battle. It is not a video game where you have unlimited bullets. It is not a nuclear carrier where you don't need to refuel and re-arm. You need support like hospital ships, food, uniforms, tankers, transports, airbases, etc. You can't sustain a campaign with out that
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@CSATexan MacArthur felt that way. He felt, with good reason, that to leave a Japanese army and air force of 200,000+ troops on the Philippines in his rear as the US advanced to Okinawa and Iwo Jima was dangerous. Guam didn't come into the picture here, as it fell about 3 months before US troops landed in the Philippines.
galoon 1 month ago
@galoon
The Phillipe ans weren't in the rear they were hundreds of miles to the West
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan To the west of what? Okinawa and Iwo Jima? If you look at your map you'll see that the Philippines are to the south of these islands, and definitely in the American rear, strategically speaking. Japanese bombers and Kamikaze units based at Manila and other Philippine airfields had an attack range of hundreds of miles. The Japanese could also have conceivably reinforced Okinawa and Iwo with troops via submarine, aircraft, and/or transport from the PI.
galoon 1 month ago
@CSATexan
The PI is west of Guam, the US didn't need the PI to bomb Japan.
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan That's why they occupied Iwo Jima and Okinawa--as emergency bases for crippled B-29s returning from raids on Japan. And MacArthur felt it was a strategically sound idea to occupy the PI before doing that. Another big reason was that US possession of the PI had the effect of cutting Japan off from her oil and iron ore sources in the East Indies. US subs were already doing this to a point, but taking the PI further constricted Japanese supply routes, making the subs more effective.
galoon 1 month ago
@CSATexan Another consideration was the fact that B-29s based on Okinawa could carry a much greater bombload over Japan, because they didn't need to carry all that fuel that was required in raids originating from Guam and Tinian. Plus, the occupation of Okinawa/Iwo Jima allowed fighters to be based there so they could provide escort over Japan for the bombers. The Marianas were too far from Japan to allow this.
galoon 1 month ago
@galoon
Non of which had anything to do with the PI.
CSATexan 1 month ago
@CSATexan The B-29 raids had nothing to do with the PI, true. But in the strategic picture, the Philippines were crucial. If we'd bypassed the PI and occupied Okinawa/Iwo Jima as a stepping-off point for the invasion of Japan, we'd have had a tenuous sea supply line 1,600 miles long, from the Marianas to Okinawa. The Japanese could have attacked our troop transports and supply vessels by air and sea from the Philippines while they were en route.
galoon 1 month ago
@galoon
MacArthur himself saw the invasion of Japan as a bad idea. And that was without the foreknowledge of the Japanese defensive build up.
While it was true that Japan could have inflicted some damage on our troops from the PI it would have been small in comparison to the causalities that the US took during the liberation of the PI
CSATexan 1 month ago
@AccordGTR
Just look at a Map battle after battle was being fought so the US could advance towards Japan. The PI is in the wrong direction.
It is safe to assume that you are not a General, you can't even see that the PI was a means for Japan to move South towards Australia. By 1944 that was no longer the case.
Japan was reduced to defending their home islands.
CSATexan 1 month ago
thanks to that fucking Americans and Japs who make the Philippines destroy the beautiful city of Manila....F****!!!
gloryjade226 1 month ago
Y_Y
kidrainenfina 1 month ago
The destruction of Intramuros was mostly due to the American bombardment. But I don't think it could have been avoided since the Japs chose to make their last stand inside the city and civilians were trapped because bridges had already been blown by the Japs.
lakibull 1 month ago
@lakibull if you read English, European or American history, you will see castles and forts that were attacked were first starved by a long siege. But the US could not wait. They wanted to get back the PH because it was just an outpost to them and to hell with civilians casualties...what is more important is to save American lives so US Fleet can use the PH to eventually attack Japan. That is my point - Filipino civilians are not as important as US interests.
AccordGTR 1 month ago
Stupid propaganda of brutal colonialist USA enslaving Philippines
serbetli100 2 months ago
@serbetli100 fuck u communist scum!
anticommienpa 2 months ago
japan is bullshit
josh74488 2 months ago
the reason why usa went in manila. is because japan was getting strong and filipinas has alot of islands that can be use as one of the best navy base thats why spanish liked filipinas but they never ever stablished a navy base like they did in guam, puerto rico and hawaii
LUIBROWN17 2 months ago
siguro ang nag DISLIKE nyan HAPON
pamfu00000 3 months ago
wla na taung mgagawa na ipon na nila ung dragonball
hihiling nalang daw ung mga japs kay shenlong
sagwil7th 3 months ago
McArthur ordered na no heavy artillery fire para hindi masira ung mga buildings at walang madamay na civilian. pero dahil sa isa -isa ng napipitas yung mga tropang Kano dahil sa snipers at sneak attacks ng mga Japs, napilitan siyang i-cancel ung order nyang yon. kaya ayan nasira yung city.
t0ny0ngBayawak 3 months ago
did the NUNS raped by JAPS?
nostradormouse1208 4 months ago
@nostradormouse1208 Actually your brutal yankees dropped a A-bomb on a Catholic church in Nagasaki, roasted many nuns.
serbetli100 2 months ago
@serbetli100 Conventional bombs killed a lot more Japanese civilians than the two A-bombs did. Civilian casualties due to bombing in WWII were unavoidable. It's not like US commanders were targeting civilians specifically--the Germans were the only ones who did that, in the Blitz and the V1 and V2 attacks on Britain. I doubt if there was a realistic alternative to our bombing raids on Japan as a means of shortening the war.
galoon 1 month ago
@galoon I don't believe it. FDR and Truman were not even considering the japs as humans. They were considering the japs as some inferior primates. They just tested their new weapon A-bombs on those experimental animals of the japs to threaten USSR. That's the truth.
serbetli100 1 month ago
@serbetli100
That is a bunch of crap!!!
Japan refused to surrender (even after the first bomb) lets no forget that Japan was going to execute all POWs in the even of an allied invasion.
Perhaps had the USSR not joined the war at the last minute, the US would not have had to bomb the crap out of the Japan
CSATexan 1 month ago
Not the building please XD
monicats 4 months ago
I can't help tearing up a bit watching this. All the lives lost... the economy and industries disrupted, and many cultural heritage leveled to the ground. We've lost so much. I hope we can still save, nurture and build upon what the war had left intact.
John081590 4 months ago
Hindi rin cguro natin masisi ang mga Kano sa ginawa nila, kasi wla na silang choice, nagha-harakiri na ang mga hapon everywhere, may panahon pa ba sa diplomasya? History is more complicated than it looks.
Topher0784 4 months ago
Siguro ang nangyari, kung hindi madaan sa santong dasalan (diplomacy) dinaan na lang ng mga Kano sa santong paspasan -extermination of all Jap soldiers in sight. But the price had been the destruction of Manila, its century-old buildings with great historical value. Maybe that's why after the war when the Japs and Americans had left, the Filipino's felt that some part of their identity has lost (and even until now).
Topher0784 4 months ago
This video purportedly narrated by an American soldier shows that the americans are washing their hands. that they do not have something to do with the destruction of manila. Binibigyan diin talaga nila na ang mga hapon ang may kasalanan. Whether the Japs will invade the Philippines or not, had we not have been a US territory or not, we may never know. My big question is, had Mcarthur did not declare Manila as an open city, will it made a difference.
Topher0784 4 months ago
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all of you forget that actually the U.S. did same thing to the Philippines in the end of 19th century. Read Reynaldo Ileto's "Wars with the US and Japan." The US is just another colonizer of the Philippines. Actually, over 30% of Filipino cilivilian casualities in "liberation of Manila" were caused by American army.
akonglukalikebon 4 months ago
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akonglukalikebon 4 months ago
japs.! fascist monkeys!
Archraveful 4 months ago
Attybong can't speak now hahahaha!!!!
iamcartoonnetworkfan 5 months ago
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filipinos and japanese are friends now?
evilviracocha 6 months ago
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evilviracocha 6 months ago
japanese is evil
daireyou 6 months ago
You know what is sad about Manila? The Japanese Army had orders to pull out and leave the city to be Open to the Americans! But the stupid Imperial Navy/Marines claim they did not receive such orders to pull out!!! Even tho they saw the Imperial Army pulling out of Manila.... If it is anyone fault it is Imperial Japan and its stupid Navy/Imperial Marines for staying and fighting.....
11B30Inf 6 months ago
-_~
sydronyx 6 months ago
The film doesn't mention My Lai because it was shot over 20 years before.
MrAcarine 6 months ago
THE AMERICANS ANS THE JAPS ARE THE PROTAGONISTS DURING THE WAR AND THEY MADE MANILA AND THE REST OF THE PHILIPPINES THEIR PLAYGROUND..EVERYBODY IS A MONSTER DURING WARS...THERE ARE NO SUCH THING AS BENEVOLENT KILLERS
po3jet 7 months ago
@po3jet
If the Americans were protagonist, why did the Filipinos fight along side the USA??
CSATexan 6 months ago
@CSATexan ...cuz the US promised independence (Tydings-McDuffie Act of 1934) in 1944. So it was either help the Americans to win our independence (since it was already US Federal Law by then), or help the Japs and risk everything we had worked for since our war with the US in 1899-1902 where over 1 million of us died. What would you have done?
AccordGTR 1 month ago
@po3jet If we did not liberated your homeland.....you would have been speaking Japanese or worse DEAD! War is Hell.... But Hell would have been far worse worse under the continuing Japanese Occupation....
11B30Inf 6 months ago
@11B30Inf no mister, had the americans not gone to our country, we would not have been dragged to the war in the first place .. we don't owe you our liberty .. it was your duty to liberate us ..
attybong 6 months ago
@attybong ....Your stupidity astounds me! My Daughter in Law is Filipino and I talk to her Father and Mother! If they could heard the bullshit you are spouting they would beat you an inch of your miserable life asshole! You would have been a fucking collaborator for the Japaneses won't you punk? The Japanese would invaded your Country no matter if we are there or not! You Country is in the way of Indonesia and Australia! You are fuck sick little man with pure hate in his heart....
11B30Inf 6 months ago
@11B30Inf you are the one who is STUPID ... look at your english, you cannot even get it right ... americano ka ba talaga o nalahian lang ng negrong bungal at panot ... there is nothing personal here big boy ... just an opinion from a FILIPINO whose country had been unnecessarily devastated by the war ... put this in your coconut you bully ... i am neither a pro jap but, culled from your comment, it seems that it is you who has hatred in your heart against the japs ...
attybong 6 months ago
@11B30Inf by the way ... it would be better if you show your face .. don't hide behind an ALIAS and put this in your coconut you bully ... i am neither a pro jap but, culled from your own comment, it seems that it is you who has hatred in your heart against the japs ... you are the one who is sick, really really sick .. you cannot even respect other people's opinion especially those whose race you have insulted ...
attybong 6 months ago
@attybong ....Your right! I don' respect your opinion! And in the first place you're the one calling them Japs bub! If you look in any remarks boy genius not once I use the the Japs! Now if you what to nick pick my remarks for using cuss words go right ahead. I still stand in my last remarks about you..... besides Opinion are like assholes......everyone got one!
11B30Inf 6 months ago
@11B30Inf show your face ... you coward what is your name?
attybong 5 months ago
@attybong What the hell is your problem bub? You better grow a thick skin in here when you post stupid ass remarks boy genius!!! If you can't take any criticism in here of YouTube then you should leave immediately bonehead! As for my so call alias ....that is NONE of your fucking business boy wonder! When little shitheads make threats on your family it is a smart idea to use avatar names instead of your real one bub!
11B30Inf 5 months ago
@attybong Actually that's not true. In my opinion, the location of the Philippines is enough for the Japanese to invade it even if the the Americans didn't go to the Philippines. Japan needed places near their country to supply them with oil and natural resources for the war. The fact that the Philippines not only has natural resources, but it's also located close to Japan, makes it a very convenient place for them.
MsAquarose 5 months ago
@MsAquarose that could also be one good reason, but i stand on my opinion... thanks
attybong 5 months ago
@attybong your opinion is a opinion of a grade 1 student!! you faggot asshole! i think you dont even know what world war 2 is!!!!! you fucking moron!!
jejelyn08 4 months ago
The japanese emperial army in WWII are MONSTERS, no words can explain how bad this people were.Killing innocent civilians,especially the babies and children. They dont believe in God, hope this will not happen again. no more wars!
goyong26 7 months ago
I can believe if one Japanese guy touched something from the Philippines it should have been killed...
MultiDemon55 7 months ago
Why was Hiroshita and Kawasaki atomic bombed? The atomic bomb should have been placed where their Leader hails.
MultiDemon55 7 months ago
@MultiDemon55 They were selected for the A-bomb attacks because most of the other major Japanese cities from Tokyo on down had already been leveled by B-29s carrying conventional bombs and incendiaries, while Hiroshima and Nagasaki had suffered little damage.
galoon 1 month ago
Strangely, I can justify the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
knotpass 8 months ago
yes..the Filipino soldiers have offered safe passage to US soldiers during WW2, they have fought side by side and died fighting for freedom,but where is America now?..they have abandoned the Philippines favoring Middle East countries with billions of aids..sad history of old friendship..
TheAcer925 8 months ago
@TheAcer925 What is it you want from US! You wanted your independence from us and we give it to you as promise at the end of WWII. Now you are complaining we have abandon you??? Its up to the Philippine people if they want us to help them! And so far many Filipinos don't agree with your abandon BS.......
11B30Inf 6 months ago
we saw the results of war , I hope it won't happen again. Thank you for sharing.
kemisteryoso 8 months ago
Thank you for sharing. we saw the results of war. Hope it won't happen again.
kemisteryoso 8 months ago
Kill all those Japanese who destroy the Philippines!
Neokulay 8 months ago
Why was China town not distroyed??
mednikash 9 months ago
@mednikash Was it shown in the video? Didn't notice hahaha
acchacon 9 months ago
@mednikash
where else are you going to find tasty food in the philippines ?
donnyab 5 months ago
@mednikash my grandmother, a young Filipino-Chinese maiden at the time, lived in Chinatown during these terrifying days. She recalled her heart jumped with every gunfire and explosion. One day, Japanese soldiers entered the Binondo district and force-entered houses and killed everyone in sight with no remorse. She and her family hid in another house to be safe. According to her, she was almost shot by a Jap sniper. My great granddad pulled her out of the open just in time. She lived till 2006.
yourimaginarytube 3 months ago
For GOD SAKE ! Please kill all thosed Bastard JAPANESE who ruined Our Country!
rommy7010 9 months ago
Thanks to the American heroes who liberate Manila. MARAMING SALAMAT SA INYONG LAHAT. It was a really sad moment to me as a Pilipino when i watched how the Japanese massacred civilians. Now i believe my mother with her own story what really happen in Manila.
coolferds06 9 months ago
Thanks to the American heroes who liberate Manila. MARAMING SALAMAT SA INYONG LAHAT.
coolferds06 9 months ago
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Please be informed that the best of the videos on the Battle of Manila is by Peter Parsons of Baguio, Philippines. It is called Manila 1945: The forgotten Atrocities. It actually includes this color gem which was never finished now shown publicly. Parsons showed it a few years ago in Manila at the Ortigas Library. You can order the video as well as others from: petercparsons@gmail.com.
petercparsons 10 months ago
The philippines would be good nation but the asshole japs ruined it all. Look at the philippines nowadays full of jackass political corruption. If the philippines survive the Commonwealth of the philippines, I guarantee you that your country will be 1st world country.
M4A108 11 months ago
Great upload thanks for posting.
emmthreejonny 11 months ago
Kawawa ang mga bata....! :(
iamcartoonnetworkfan 11 months ago
wow salamat man for upload!!
citus333 1 year ago
-cough-vietnam-cough-
citus333 1 year ago
@citus333 - Are you comparing isolated atrocities in the Vietnam war to Manila, Nanking Massacres, the Death March etc...?
emmthreejonny 11 months ago 2
@emmthreejonny i mean the way the propaganda potray the americans as if they never commited a war crime.an example is the my lai massacre.Well i suppose its to be expected since IT IS a propaganda video :D
citus333 11 months ago
@citus333 - Propaganda about what? The truth? Historical facts stories of survivors and witnesses? Everyone committed a war crime (as if war is not already a crime) one way or another but some did under orders.
My Lai massacre was an isolated case. The Imperial Japanese however were ordered by their superiors to do what they did. Besides, they believed they were a superior race in Asia. Just as Hitler wanted to believe the Germans were the superior race in the other side of the world.
emmthreejonny 11 months ago
the japanese goernment shoul pay the filipino government for their doings in the philippines!
dumRuine 1 year ago
..thank yOu fOr upLOading this..
issahgannee 1 year ago
@issahgannee Welcome! issahgannee! I hope I can find more of this stuff and share it.:D
acchacon 1 year ago
@acchacon where did yOu get this anyway?.. it was my dad whO tOLd me tO try tO search this On the net after reading it frOm a newspaper.. yep, its in the LOcaL news paper in cebu.. where dya get this?..^__^
issahgannee 1 year ago
@issahgannee I'm not sure anymore hehe. Usually, mahilig lang ako maghanap sa torrent sites and google after exhausting YouTube. Mahilig lang kasi ako manood sa mga ganitong videos. There's some videos on Cebu I think pero di ko lang na download hehe...
Anong article sa Cebu? What is the article about?
acchacon 1 year ago
@acchacon i mean this video 'war crimes in manila' was featured in cebu's local news paper.. we searched it to verify if its true.. and we found this..
issahgannee 1 year ago
@issahgannee Ahhh. Nice! Enjoy. Kung mahilig ka sa ganito, worth searching din yung A Nation is Born (1947), medyo mahirap siya hanapin though.:)
acchacon 1 year ago
so it's clear... it's the americans who destroyed our city.
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nicordeous 1 year ago
@nicordeous Technically they did, according to history books. But the Japs made them to do so hehe
acchacon 1 year ago
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nicordeous 1 year ago
FUCKING JAPS! They SHOULD be ANNIHILATED
bobbybcool 1 year ago 2