Chinese soldier shooting Tibetan Pilgrims

[nzgav]

My freely life in Tibet (8.53)

has Tibetans talking about

this shooting at NangPa La. Beatings. Crazy prisons sentences for trivial things. Land confiscation. Forced resettlement. Torture. Forced sterilisation (without anaesthetic).

[bluefish504]

Shamelessly pushing naked propaganda to inspire hatred.

[ChinaKillsNuns]

Do you work for china's Central Propaganda Department?

[ChinaKillsNuns]

My freely life in Tibet (8.53)

has been removed. Please watch

Dispatches Undercover in Tibet (48 mins, on google video)

[nzgav]

This video shows Tibetans trying to escape Tibet. Many of them are children wanting a proper education, which they cannot get in Tibet.

Kelsang Namtso, a nun was shot in the back and killed by Chinese soldiers and 2 bullets hit another Tibetan.

This incident at Nangpa La Pass (a traditional trade route between Tibet and Nepal) is just part of the genocide which is happening in Tibet.

[nzgav]

"[Tibet] is entirely closed & witnesses unimaginable things. In March 2008, 20,000 people disappeared with no trace during the upraising in Tibet. Individuals attempting to escape over the border are being shot like in a shooting-range.

We saw filmed material & photos taken out by refugees of Tibet. If a shown to a wider audience, all worldwide human rights institutions would unanimously respond to this crime against humanity."

--Vytautas Landsbergis

Lithuanian film-maker, 9/3/2008

[nzgav]

It is believed the following people missing since the shooting, are either held by Chinese authorities, were killed or have been executed Tenwang, age 7 Lhakpa Tsering, age 8 Dhondup Lhamo, age 9 Dechen Dolma 10 Wangchen 11 Tsedon 12 Sonam Wangdue 12 Ming Shomo 13 Lodoe Nyima 15, Jamyang Tsetan 16 Karma Tsetan 16, Lodoe Namkha 16 Karma 19, Samten 19 Sonam Palzom 20, Dhondup Palden 21 Kusang 22, Lobsang Paljor 35

[nzgav]

If you doubt the credibility of this video

on wikipedia look at

"Nangpa La shootings"

and follow the links. Or search on

"save tibet 1040"

(good pics there)

or on youtube watch

interview w cameraman of 'Chinese Shooting Tibetan'

[ChinaKillsNuns]

"save tibet 1040"

does not work now

[bluefish504]

Please watch this video again. Check out 0:05 and 0:43, the fallen man in 0:05 was walking again in 0:43.

Now google or seach utube for "prostrating pilgrimage", you should understand why.

Those false witnesses and that narrator are disgusting, using carefully edited video to pull together a lie and spreading it on youtube to inspire hatred for China.

Why those Romanians do this? Why they want to use lies to inspire and spread hatred toward China? This is so despicable.

[bluefish504]

No China bashers dare to discuss what's in this video, which they call evidence. This so-called evidence is not even self-consistant. Why would HorsePower explain to us the inconsistancy in the video itself? The undenial fact is that this video is a hoaxed up lie. Chinese gov. has the highest satisfaction rating the world several years in the run according to Pew Research. That's why lies like this has to be promoted by China basher to spread the hatred.

[nzgav]

Supporters of the Chinese Communist Party hope this footage is fake.

Unfortunately their party has already admitted it happened here

english.people . com . cn/200610/13/ eng20061013_311337.html

[bluefish504]

This is another lie. Producing a movie and claiming it matches a Chinese government statement. The statement of raiding cross border criminal activities had nothing to do with this propaganda production.

[ChinaKillsNuns]

This is the coverage from aljazeera . net

english.aljazeera. net/archive/2006/10 /20084915230639330.html

(take out all the spaces)

[HorsePower9000]

Hate? Aren't you the hate filled bigot bluefish? You are the one defending murderers. Brainwashed by the ccp. And we all know what a pack of liars the ccp are- who disseminate hatred material against Tibetans and Falun Gong. The ccp are the worst of all. And you defending them is despicable.

[HorsePower9000]

Its not "China bashing"its exposing human rights abuse. The ccp is one of the world's worst regimes for human rights abuse. The man who was shot obviously wasn't killed, but injured, and runs off, and the commentator even says so. Even so, you see another person get shot. The fact is the PLA sildiers were shooting them. Human rights abuse is happening, and the best way to stop it is to expose it. How dare you try to defend murderers!

[HorsePower9000]

The body is still there. You are obviously a communist party nutjob bluefish. Get a life.

Noone is going to create such an elaborate hoax for nothing... except the CCP! Remember the olympics opening ceremony?

[bluefish504]

All the evidence is in the video. Why can't you explain what I have observed, "dead man" walking? You can't explain it away. This is a carefully edited hoax, no doubt about it. All you can do is calling me names, you can't explain the contradiction in the video. Shameful liar!! Brainwashed nutjob!!

[bluefish504]

All you can do is calling me names. Why don't you explain the walking "dead man"? This is a carefully edited hoax, no doubt about it. Bury you head in the sand, that's what a brainwashed biggot China-basher does. Shameless liar!!

[bluefish504]

Please watch this video again. Check out 0:05 and 0:43, the fallen man in 0:05 was walking again in 0:43.

Now google or seach utube for "prostrating pilgrimage", you should understand why.

Those false witnesses and that narrator are disgusting, using carefully edited video to pull together a lie and spreading it on youtube to inspire hatred for China.

Why those Romanians do this? Why they want to use lies to inspire and spread hatred toward China? This is so despicable

[HorsePower9000]

To answer bluefishes questions...

The soldiers left the dead body on the mountain side.

When the soldiers approach the camp, they are wearing PLA uniforms.

The soldiers are wearing PLA uniforms- obviously meaning they are in China or at China's borders.

Light travels faster than sound. Did you study physics at school?

You may not want answers to your silly attempt to poke holes in the video, but there they are.

Thats enough for anybody.

[bluefish504]

No dead body.

Anyone can wear PLA uniforms, it could be movie set.

No telling of location.

You nothing about physics.

Bullet travels faster than sound so you the fall first then the gunshot.

[bluefish504]

The video is so heavily edited, through music and emotional narration as well as inserting clips with PLA present to influence the viewers. Obviously a propaganda video, not home made video as claimed. shameless liars, similiar to Nazi propaganda using lies to fan hatred.

[HorsePower9000]

Stop being so ridiculous bluefish. You can't argue with what you see in this vid. People aren't going to go out of their way to create such an elaborate hoax for no reason. Get a clue! Bluefish, you're obviously one of these nutty CCP agents who trawls through sites like YouTube posting pro-CCP comments and bashing those who dare to stand up for human rights.

[bluefish504]

The evidence is in the video, why can't you explain the contradictions? You are the brainwashed sheep, never question anything fed to you. You can't face the facts, you have no critical thinking.

All you can say is "People aren't going to go out of their way to creat such an elaborate hoax for no reason."

I will give you the reason, that's hatred! which you have a lot of. How much hatred there must be for them to spread such a lie!!

The hate filled bigots like you!!

[bluefish504]

Where is the dead body with bullet holes?

Where is the positive identification of Chinese military?

How to prove this vid is shot on Chinese soil?

How to explain the shot and fall occur at the same time?

No need for answers, because the narrator said China did it. That's enough for China bashers.

[YAPONLUQ]

自：中国人所盲信的新华社报道

新华社拉萨10月12日电　西藏自治区有关负责人向记者透露，9月30日凌晨，中国边防巡逻­小组官兵在中国和尼泊尔边界中方一侧巡逻时 ，发现近70人欲非法  偷渡到境外，依法对其劝阻，希望他们尽快返回原籍。

但他们不仅不听劝阻，反而群袭边防官兵。在此情况下，边防官兵被­迫自卫，伤及2名偷渡人员，其中1人因事发 地海拔6200米，高 寒缺氧，自然环境极其恶劣，经抢救无效死亡 。另一伤者已得到妥善救治。

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依法对其劝阻??

群袭边防官兵??

边防官兵被迫自卫?????

[huffmancode]

Chinese border guards shoot anyone leaving the country illegally. The question is...why are these Tibetan commiting illegal border jumping when China allows free border corssing between

China and Nepal ? Tibetan and Nepal citizens

can travel to each others land with daily passes or up to 30 days with rubber stamp.

The only logical explanation is they are traffiking drugs over to the other side illegally. Why risk your own life border jumping when you can cross over for free ?