Obama Makes Mistake with Signing Statements

[kaikadri]

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[DivadFungi]

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[TheInfo101]

Democrats=Republics or to better state it They are controlled by the same interests & that's why we continue to have a loss of rights, bailouts to Banksters, & illegal wars with whoever is in power!

[zellymusic]

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[Danny123470]

@zellymusic

I think it was just a coincidental mistake tbh, but you are kinda right. It's pretty strange...

[BorderInspector]

Uhh... I don't get it. Do you say "Wow 9 11" two times a day when you check the time?

[VirginianAmerican]

I have to say that I really dislike all of your videos but you are 100 right on this one. NO President should be able to alter what Congress puts on his desk Either a Bill needs to be signed or vetoed.

[xXxWilliExXx]

Fair enough, but why do you watch all of his videos if you really dislike them?

[mattswall]

Obama is a liar, as are all other politicians currently inhabiting DC offices. Politics as usual. Sorry to drop your sucker in the sand.

[SamStuart07]

The old boss as same as the new boss.

[Aiden057]

House Democrats issued a warning to President Obama on Tuesday: Cool it with the signing statements. In addition, If Obama intends to Preserve, Protect and Defend the Constitution of the United States he must do all in his power to see that the torture team is prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

[ccm800]

is anyone on the hill speaking out against this?

[VirginianAmerican]

There is a Bill that would require all law to line up with the Constitution.

We need to put a stop to signing statements and other abusive government like the FED and Stimulus spending packages that just aren't part of our Constitution

[ccm800]

Where can I learn more?

[VirginianAmerican]

I am trying to remember where I read that...You might check with Representitive Ron Paul's office He is a Republican or Alan Grayson a Democrat...both support the Constitution and should be able to give you more than my brain can offer :)

[PeeFinster]

Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel: "pick up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the promised land".

- Nearly 75 years ago , Roosevelt said: "Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel, this is the promised land".

- Now Obama is going to steal your shovel, kick your asses, raise the price of camels, and mortgage the promised land.

[Hirfel]

You know, Jesus wouldn't tax the rich either. Jesus would keep guantanamo open for torturing thy enemy; Jesus would be a republican. Obama isn't stealing any property, isn't "kicking your asses" (he stopped the torture) and has no control over the prices of goods. As for the promised land, we ain't hebrews, why do we care? If America is the promised land, why did we have to violently steal it from the natives? Why are there thousands of people living in poverty? Where's THEIR milk and honey?

[mccainMOARlikemcFail]

very well said

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[ohkeepa2009]

Search THE OBAMA DECEPTION on youtube. The globalist agenda is set but we have to stop the New World Order. As far as left or right is concerned, there is no right or left only right or wrong. 911 was an inside job. Wake up and realize the economic collapse was planned. This isn't conspiracy, its a matter of control in the hands of a few wealthy people. Know the truth, infowars . com

[sunshinyday11]

37 Czars so far! they have huge power and are completely unchecked . I think this is where we need to be looking for the nexxt scandalous abuse of the taxpayer. Obama controls them , but is not going to take the heaT for their unconstitutional acts, even though he dictated them .

[candiceevans1]

Look I am running around screaming and waving the flag because I see the lies this man is telling ,,,I am an expert in observation and Obama takes it to another level. He says things that he believes are absurd. He constantly looks down and says uuum. Thats a sign of a lie. He should be looking up if he were truthful but he is never truthful theres way more evidence but not enough room here, he exibits the behavior of a compulsive liar. we are all in danger of losing our freedom

[candiceevans1]

another thing he promised he would never do

[vdohwatcher]

a democratic president once said: the buck stops with the president!

[appnzllr]

Comparison to line item veto is a good one. Some governors have line item veto, and I think the president should, too. At least then the legislature would have the opportunity to override it. But with signing statements, there is no chance for override. That's why it makes me uncomfortable. Line item veto should be more constitutional than signing statements.

[franksnow79]

The office of the President has taken to using signing statements as if they were a line item veto. Aye Imperator, welcome to the empire.

[ajc06]

Signing statements are nothing new. Clinton had them too, and I'm sure many presidents going back had them (though I don't know exactly when they started).

The problem with Bush was that he ABUSED them. I don't like them in the first place, but there's a difference between adding a statement to a few bills here and there to say, "Yeah, I'm just going to ignore this little bit," and using them routinely to basically negate the existence of Congress outright.

[SkreetGil]

Ut oh...there goes that slippery slope! Danger down below!

[SumnerClaridge]

What Obama should have done is to send up a Complaint for Declaratory Judgment to the Supreme Court to strike down that part of the bill.

[Capng123]

Obama's still trying to walk the middle line but ultimately it's a lost cause. The republicans are redundant now. He should stop placating them and simply do what needs to be done, veto crap bills and move forward on his promises.

When you try and please everybody you ultimately wind up just pissing them off.

Time to cut away the dead wood and move forward.

[HangProgressives]

@Capng123 LMAO looks like you were DEAD wrong .....lololololololololol Obama is done the Liar in Chief is a fraud

[brainslurper]

@Capng123 Seriously, republicans be trippin no matter what obama does, he needs to use his time fixing the country rather then negotiating with lunatics.

[ZombiedustXXX]

"Obama Makes Mistake with Signing Statement". You are being generous, Cenk.

Uhhh, where is the mistake? There is no mistake. Obama knows exactly what he's doing. Obama takes another campaign promise, and pitches in the compost heap.

If you wanna see the promise, it's from the annoying Alex Jones (sorry), but I don't think Media Matters had the footage for Cenk to use. search:

Alex Jones Tv:Obama Lies on Signing Statements!

[jshooper]

ZombiedustXXX ....alex jones is an (anti) political opportunist....there is a difference between using a signing statement (when the neo-cons are trying to trap you) .....and abusing signing statements....like bush did.....bush did shit like start illegal wars, wiretap, torture etc....obama used his power to prevent neo-con warmongers from trying to box him into starting shit with iran....he wants to use diplomacy and international pressure with iran and north korea...they just want to bomb them

[tersse]

Obama should have vetoed the bill, its a bad signe and bad precident for future presidents.

[jshooper]

tersse

politically it is unrealistic to expect obama to veto a war spending bill ,the republicans and neo-cons would have had a field day...what i think happened was they tried so slip some bullshit in their and catch obama napping..and he caught them and called them out on it..there is no evil intent or lies as many like to throw out...the neo-cons tried to box obama in politically and he found a way to squeeze out of it..if it sets a bad precedent so be it...although i think it was already set

[jshooper]

this is stupid....we "the left" have created a damned if you do...damned if you don't relationship with obama...(so have the right wing nuts)..why on earth would we want obama to go along with these clowns...we saw how they wanted him to handle iran...why should we ignore that and simply focus on the negative (possible precedent)...if mccain and the neo-cons had their way we would be in WW3 right now... with iran and north korea...i think obama is right one this one....cut him some slack

[avmonkey]

Good analysis by Cenk on this one. If Barack had a problem with this or any other bill, he needs to address it with the relevant congress critters, or else veto it. Adding a BS signing statement to it, outlining his "interpretation" of it, and effectively limiting its scope is just wrong. No truly free democracy should have anything to do with signing statements.

Once again, Barack is letting me down.

[mjtajik]

Yes dude!

This is very dangerous. It is a beginning of a power corruption and dictatorship. Don't get me wrong! as I Cank said, Obama probably is not a dictator, but in future this kind of acting unbalanced with the bills is going to be very dangerous.

[jshooper]

soon we on the left are going to be saying obama is like bush simply because he is the president.....enough already !...."he wore a red tie...OMG he looks like bush ! "

[IndiMusicLover]

I'm glad Obama won and not the dumb fucks on the other side. You know, the old guy and the quitter.

[sisforshayla]

dang i wish cenk had a show on tv

[snapplelemon]

whatever happened to this show having a slot on msnbc?

[sisforshayla]

well, the pres of msnbc had said it was looking for a new show to put on after maddow. and tyt launched it's campaign. but then after a bit the pres changed his mind and said he wanted to save $ and keep a rerun there. but then they went and created an ed shultz show for earlier in the evening. (who i find pretty disappointing.) cenk would have done a better job. so hopefully he will get another shot at it.

[snapplelemon]

well i wonder if they had gotten the slot if they'd be able to still tell it like it is here. If they dont, they become sellouts, so maybe it's better they stay put

[sisforshayla]

i don't think cenk would do a show if he wasn't allowed to tell it like he sees it. but that could certainly be why he didn't even get an interview for a tv spot..

[dinobrya]

That is like a line item veto, which was judged to be unconstitutional.

[colebee99]

Go Cenk!

[prodigy00073]

Fair and balances reporting ftw. Well done Cenk

[friction00815]

another lie from Obamba another broken campaign promise. nothing but lies come out of this White House. Obamba is a sneaky liar and promise breaker. resign immediately u filthy promise breaking liar

[PrUnEJuIcEtHeThIrD]

What good campaign promise did Bush fulfill? The one to attack desert nations? Oh wait, that wasn't even a campaign promise. What a bunch of double standards you fucking cons hug.

[flyingtorpedo]

"Obama is a long-legged mack daddy" -Pastor James Manning

[badtown88]

haha James Manning. I love that guy. He's a great comedian.

[flyingtorpedo]

Him and Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson 3 peas in a pot. All comedians and funny as hell.

[macarion]

In a pot?

[macarion]

His name is David Manning.

[flyingtorpedo]

James David Manning Phd.

[matereymate]

by the way ,

obama

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[matereymate]

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but yesterday the show was not live

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[lyfecom]

i agree with you.

[jshooper]

people on the left (me included) need to stop comparing and implying that everything obama does that we don't like is "just like bush".....that is absurd hyperbole and although i know it is easy after living through the worst president in history, it is still wrong.....obama has done many things that i don't like....but until his actions directly result in thousands of deaths ,saying he is bush is just mindless reactionary nonsense....that being said...we should still keep him honest

[akfak0retlaw]

I kind of agree but I think the point is if Obama starts using his powers as the president in the same way as Bush then it moves us further a way from holding Bush accountable and more in the direction of Bush did nothing wrong and the way he used his power is ok for future presidents. It's hard because you kind of want Obama to used those powers because he might actually fix things, but you don't want that precedent set in case the country loses it's mind again and elects another Bush.

[sebsy15]

Best TYT video as of yet. Finally some intelligent discussion around Obama's actual behaviour contra than the rhetorical persona he puts upon himself

[jshooper]

sebsy15 ..so just because they say something "negative" about obama this makes it the best video ?.....and how did he "put upon himself" a rhetorical persona ?......some people are just smart and talk well....so i guess if TYT had some sort of bizarro world episode and said obama was a slack jawed, tyrant , war monger, oil baron, anti-christ you would think it was the greatest of all time....???

[hotnuke]

I have to agree this is a very, very troubling sign. I'm hopeful Obama will curtail his desire to do this ever again, or I would think his supporters need to jump all over him like that 71-year-old jumped on that robber, and KNOCK HIM THE FUCK OUT.

[GeneralBolas]

I'm of two minds on this issue. The part of the bill that Obama issued the signing statement on is unconstitutional. And the correct way to have a law declared unconstitutional is to break that law, get called on it, and take it to the Supreme Court who will then decide on the constitutionality of it. So, in that way, Obama's doing the right thing.

However, it have been more reasonable to just ignore it and dare Congress to come after him? No need to bring signing statements into this.

[plumbweis]

Palin and Sanord are on the same oxycotin train as Rush Limbaugh. Maybe it's something in the water at the pac meetings. Believe me every day I thank God this joke(Palin) and the old man didn't make it. We would be doing hard labor in China if they had. The only part of Palin I want to see is her ass fadeing into the Alaskan sunset!

[jonz23m]

Obama promised not to use signing statements  at all . One of countless lies.

[jshooper]

so obama complained about them trying to tell him what to do on foreign policy ?...that's it ?.....given the mentality of john mccain , lieberman and all the other neo-cons i don't really have a problem with this....the precedent might not be all rosey but it's not like he pulled a bush.....he has on other things but this is just nit picking....people on both sides have become obsessed with EVERYTHING obama does...but when bush was president people seemed not to notice half the shit he did

[ecwaufisxtreme]

This is why we SORELY need Sarah Palin President RIGHT NOW for she will not make any mistakes like that. She will veto every single liberal bill and ensure they do not get passed at all. She will on the other hand put all foreign leaders and governments in their place, especially China, North Korea and Iran. If they don't behave and try to undermine President Palin, she will UNLEASH the WRATH OF GOD HERSELF onto them and REVEAL their PUSSIES for the whole world to see and destroy their cred!

[AncelDeLambert]

Are you INSANE!?! You honestly think Palin is anything but a megalomaniac fascist? We've lost enough rights as it is, Palin will take more! And guess what, two of the countries you listed are all grown up now, and need to be treated that way. Why don't you start looking at people with dissenting opinions as adults, rather than as faceless children. Don't vote church, god boy, vote politics!

[ghostenders]

Remember when she said that she would ban some books. I wonder what her next step might have been. Hmm maybe publicly burn them too. She is a nazi, very incompetent nazi

[AncelDeLambert]

That was what made me first hate her guts. The "real america" crap just iced the cake. I'm practically building my own library, and she's banning books? Fuck her.

[GreenNewDeal]

@ecwauxtremestoopid: Yeah, this strategy worked real well for the US when Bush employed it, didn't it!

Either you're being ironic or you're a complete moron who hasn't paid attention to the damage Bush did. The entire world destested Bush's policies for good reasons and the US had to pay a price. Obama and future generations have to clean up Bush's mess now.

[Lavizzle]

hahahahaha awesome! SHE WILL TAKE THEIR KIDS TO HOCKEY PRACTICE!!!!!!!

[ecwaufisxtreme]

And she will successfully shoot down a helicopter in the Alaskan wilderness! Achmedinejad, Ayatollah, Kim Jong Il, Putin, Medeyev, Hu Jingtao, Wen Jiabao and every single freedom hating dictator around the world!

[ghostenders]

She def would put all the world leaders in their place with her soccer mom tricks lol

[trini864]

cenk relax. i agree with his statement. Congress makes laws. The president does foreign policy. thats what he had to remind them of. If you give them one inch they will take a mile. plus who taught constitution law? Oh wait Obama

[dauoo]

Cenk. Are you serious? Bush had more signing statements then all other presidents combined. It's a right of the Chief Exec. Office to use the signing statement power and Bush clearly abused it. Comparing the 2 is not at all equivalent. it's like say that everyone that's ever smoked pot is a pothead.

[4000MILESdown]

Obama has lied about everything and he doing everything that Bush has done--he's no better. Don't censor me.

[9cyph]

I think people need to calm down for a minute on this one, even Cenk. As said, everyone agrees with the bill except for that part,, so does Obama. Plus as stated by Haywoco2, its more of an acknowlegement that the US Constitution supercedes the language of the bill. Its not Obama going for more power outside of what was given to him by the constitution, but Obama preventing congress from taking power from him granted by the constitution. So if anything, he IS defending the Constitution.

[Issypt]

Again cenk this is what i am saying obama is a liar no better than bush just sounds smarter while lying to everyone

[PeterOrszagCallMe]

Obama may not be perfect but he's still better than Bush.

[Cazz814]

Yeah I know what you mean on both sides there are unfair expectations to him, he's not going to make money fall from the sky but at the same time he is not going to frigging bankrupt America. Both sides should just leave him alone and let him do his duty.

[Issypt]

right another brilliant arguement. No it is not going to fall from the sky so he should give away more money that america does not have to help the lobbyists he said were not going to be a part of his administration? right another obama lie. Bush and obama work for the same ppl open your eyes to the truth the presidency is a joke and so have most of the presidents in the last 100 years

[Cazz814]

Well no President is perfect ever. I think Obama has good intentions but I remember in the beginning when he was the President-Elect some naive supporters seriously thought he would fix the economy in no time. Apparently that's false but I don't believe he is going to ruin us, he's trying let's just all leave him alone and let him attempt to save the economy.

[Issypt]

i really dont want to waste my time trying to explain how this works.the economy is in big trouble and obamas direction is making it way worse adding more money and credit is like trying to put out a fire with gas a peter schiff would say.not going to work. you need to subscribe to the peter schiff channel and also alex jones both here on youtube.

[Cazz814]

Whatever we'll wait and see, he's got the rest of his term in which it will hopefully work. I don't really care what you think, I'm going to see how things turn out, anyway we have no control over what happens. So let's all wait and see that's what I say.

[Issypt]

well thats ok it does not much matter if you care what I think while you are waiting and seeing others will be preparing for whats to come instead of following the sheep off the cliff like yourself. I am also pretty sure that your country was founded on the principles that the power was in the ppl hense the const. but keep on giving up your rights....and good luck

[Cazz814]

Hey thanks your half-sarcastic comment was much appreciated...

[Issypt]

hahahahahahahahaha great arguement and herpes is better than aids but I do not want either. so fuckin stupid.

[Mplay1983]

bigger fish to fry then the way a bill was signed... to me it wasn't news even when Bush did it. wars, healtchare, economy, etc. let this busy man have a break

[slivercord]

lets hope the media works this situation..they wont couse they suck...

[mogem]

Once in The White House, all these clowns immedietly forget that it is our house, paid by the people, not theirs. They are just allowed in.

[DrQuijano]

Ninth.

I think Obama should've vetoed the bill. Sure, it's hell to go tell congress "it's fine but take this part out", but it's better than stargint on the road of hipoccrissy and abuse of power that the Republicans are in. Sure, his position in signing statement was (I think) overall right, but the actual use of a signing statement is wrong.

[haywoco2]

Cenk, I don't believe it's an interpretation of the bill so much as an acknowledgement that the U.S. Constitution automatically supercedes the wrongful language in the bill.

[crowdaddy13]

hes ignoring part of.......lets just hope he does the right thing......i trust him

[Snagawaga]

I thought Obama took an oath to defend the constitution. His supporters should take him up on it if they don't want him to go down the same road as the last president.

I feel disgusted when presidents shit on the constitution with their actions and at the same time act as if they are the champion of the people.

[Temuzin11]

I agree with Cenk, and Obama is treading into dangerous territory. Especially coming from someone who has taught and practice law at the heightest level. There is a reason why we have 3 distinct branches of government that check one another and the legislative branch has consistently, whether Rep or Dem gets a F for not doing it's job.

[sataricon111]

Third

[elfyboy]

When are we gonna learn? Republican or Democrat, taint no diff.

[SquallCloud]

I understand the worry but Vetoing and then waiting for a more amenable bill to be crafted might just be too long a process? Not that expediency should be the be all and end all... I don't know.