Intro to the MU2 #3 -- Eng Start, Short Fld Takeoff/Landing

[Flymarines091]

Cool Video. I'm really starting to like the MU-2. When you takeoff with flaps 20, do you retract flaps all at once or in sequence during climb out? Also, since this is a Marquise, what switches are on the overhead panel?

[mtnairpilot]

@Flymarines091 Normal procedure is to retract the gear and bring the flaps from 20 to 5 @ 120 kts, then retract flaps from 5 to 0 @ 140 kts. Whatever you do, don't retract flaps in a turn after takeoff in an MU2. Because the flaps provide so much lift compared to most other airplanes, if you're not careful the airplane will drop out from under you, and it doesn't take much effort to get an accelerated stall. That's why type specific training is so important.

[Flymarines091]

@mtnairpilot Thanks for the insight. Great airplane and great video

[mtnairpilot]

@Flymarines091 Overhead panel is primairly anti-ice/de-ice on the left, external lighting on the left, and panel lights in the center.

[Mega2toes]

Great video on the MU-2. Keep 'em coming. I've always loved this aircraft. Never flown one, but would love to own one. I wish they were still in production. Thanks again for sharing these.

[behindthen0thing]

i heard these aircraft are pretty dangerous. I love the sound of the short stacks on those 331's tho

[1Gaumer]

as a pilot i love these planes ... as a line guy at the FBO i hope i never have to see one.

[cwhitty05]

@1Gaumer Yeah when I was a line guy at HXD I hated seeing them too. They were a pain to refuel, and they are painfully loud! but as a pilot, I too, would love to fly one! Funny how that works

[MrAviator81]

Not a fan of the MU2's..as line guy anyway:P, but I love the way those engines sound!!!!

[errindon]

still awsome today

[chair5432]

The crashes, are most of which appeared to be pilot errors, seem to be related to the fact that the MU-2 needs more training than what the give it credit for.

[chair5432]

I ended up loving this airplane in a simulator, looking forward to flying the real thing when I get the rating/tickets, if its still around in a few years.

[taw1159g]

@gregmink and @bromschwig. Nice one Greg! Loved your article in Twin & Turbine btw. Thanks for being such a great suporter for the MU2. Great video, very nice looking -60 and nice short field demo. bromschwig, stick to your Seneca buddy, in fact, you might look into RC airplanes in wide open empty fields.

[mjd4277]

Nice vid!! Nowadays you can get a MU-2 for much less than a turboprop built by Cessna or Raytheon/Beech!!

[sweetridehd]

great aircraft, worked on them for 19 years in grb. love the sound of dash tens .

nothing like a nts check flight to experiance the rice rocket

[n89434]

Absolutely love the MU2. I lived in San Angelo, TX years ago and remember seeing rows of "green" MU2s on the ramp awaiting completion.

[MegaBuckBuck1]

Thanks for the videos. Amazing airplane and I luv to hear those Garretts.

[lagwagon1208]

did you have 40 degrees flaps for this landing?

[mtnairpilot]

@lagwagon1208 yes, thanks for watching. Also flaps 40 on the "Mountain Air Landing" video

[PlasticC4]

Awesome... looks like i need to work hard and get my instrument rating for me to fly a turbo prop aircraft one day.

[ManuallyAutomated]

Nice video. Thanks for sharing.

[roghamner]

Absolutely loved the 3 part series. Flown a few sticks back in the day and the Marquise was always one of my favorites, but never had the chance to see one up close except for a brief ramp encounter or fly one. Gorgeous looking airplane and nice short field work too. Again, great job on the videos. Please keep recording.

[ThreeNineLine]

WOW! What a beautiful place to take off from. That runway is just incredible looking all tucked in the way it is!

Nice video. :) 5 stars!

[wtcirrus]

Holy Cow. Hit the numbers and slow it down to a walk just past the fixed distance markers... Very, very good flying, Mr. Mountainair. And the MU-2 is one fine airplane.

[Section31Trinity]

Is this a short or long body? What are typical cruise speeds? Climb rate at max weight SL standard day? I have a E55 baron which I love, but would love a turbo prop one day. Awesome airplane. It screams!

[mtnairpilot]

It's a long body (Marquise). 290 ktas @ FL230, 2000 fpm typical inital climb rate. The short body (Solitare) will get you more like 315 & 2500.

[drumdude46]

when you pull levers back to position reverse blade angle thus acheiving the Equivalent of Jet Aircraft Thrust Reversing, would that be called "Beta" range, or am i confusing that term with just a very low-to-idle power setting?

[mtnairpilot]

In turboprop aircraft, there are two ranges behind flight idle. Beta, the first, allows the pilot direct control of the blade angle and is used to slow the aircraft and for taxi and reduces wear on the brakes. Reverse pitch is behind beta and allows additional power for the "equivalent of reverse thrust" you mentioned. Except for short runways like this one, reverse pitch is usually not required.

[bromschwig]

Nice DOWNWIND takeoff. Ever think that a high wing loaded aircraft like the MU-2 might need the extra runway in case of an abort. What an idiot. Tell you what, I got a nice Seneca I that you can fly !!!!

[mtnairpilot]

It was also a nice DOWNHILL takeoff. The gradient far outweighs the wind. No one takes off uphill from this airport. Also, if you had watched my Intro to the MU2 #1 video, you would know that the wing loading of an MU2 in the takeoff configuration is the same as a King Air's.

[gregmink]

@bromschwig nobody takesoff UPHILL at Mountain Air. 21,000 views of this video and you are the only commenting about this. Hmm....let me know when you want to takeoff UPHILL at Mountain Air. I want to get footage of it for the NTSB investigation. I can see it now "idiot takes off uphill in his Seneca 1"

[drumdude46]

Spectacular Takeoff! very nice.

[jNS278]

nice acceleration !

[linoleumcarving]

I have read much about this aircraft..that being it's a hot plane,hard to fly and a high crash rate. why?

[mtnairpilot]

The plane does fly more like a jet than a typical turboprop, and the lack of standardized training was an issue in the past. Search YouTube for "MU2 SFAR" and watch that video to learn more. There hasn't been a serious MU2 accident in several years.

[krazfm]

@linoleumcarving The MU-2 offers very high performance at a relatively low cost, some of its operators lack sufficient training and experience for such an advanced aircraft. The plane is only as good as the pilot at the controls. Since the SFAR mandate, accidents have decreased dramatically. The pilots became safer, the plane remained the same.

[youtrein]

Awesome !

[borsch21]

great graphics! what pc have you got?

[shadddey5]

You really think this is a computer sim? You truely are retarded.

[borsch21]

Of course its a sim- you can even see antialaising and clipping in the distance. Nice graphics tho

[shadddey5]

You're doing one of two thing, truely being retarded, or fucking with me to piss me off, wich in fact is just making you look more retarded.

[borsch21]

Shut up noob, I found myself- its FSX with different payware addons. Go back to your cave

[shadddey5]

You called me noob....blazing sign that you're an idiot.

[borsch21]

Blazing sign that you've not been taught the concept of humour in school - more like it ;)

[sky30394]

You did a great job describing and showing the aircraft to the viewers; I certainly hope that others use your videos as a model for informative aviation videos in the future. Thanks Again.

[manunitedforever2006]

hi m8 my dad has got 3000 hours on a solitaire...and we go flying loads in it...i was wondering that if you used a power cart?

[manunitedforever2006]

sorry i was wondering if you used a power cart?

[mtnairpilot]

Second time in 1 week I've been asked that. See answer above. Thanks for watching.

[DBZTheLegend]

WTF the runway is horrible , how do people land in there??

[mtnairpilot]

The runway is in perfect condition. It does have unique challenges. Watch my "Landing at Mountain Air" YouTube for more info.

[capceo]

Never thought of that. Do you try to make most starts with a GPU if one is available? I used to do a lot of flying in the Conquest II with my father and a GPU was rarely necessary.

[mtnairpilot]

No, I've only used one a couple of times, ususally when the FBO just hooks one up to be nice. Since you can't run the air conditioning off the GPU prior to engine start, one of the main benefits (at least in the south) of a GPU unfortunately isn't there on an MU2...It's about my only complaint about the airplane.

[capceo]

Hey Riley, just a question. Do you move the RCS switches to run after initiating the start sequence. Is there more than one way to approach this switch during startup? My marquise checklist says to move the switch to run before starting the engine. Im not sure if thats the switch you are moving, but after you press the starter, you can see you move what looks like the RCS switch forward to run, followed by an immediate indication of fuel flow.

[mtnairpilot]

The normal procedure is as you describe. The airplane had just been in a static air show, and I had raised/lowered the flaps, etc., depleting the batteries. That plus the airport elevation and lack of GPU made me want to be sure I was going to spin up before introducing the fuel. It was probably unnecessary, but seemed to make some sense at the time.

[Saberpride73]

Really cool video sir!!!!

[jvandervalk]

whoa that stopped fast, btw is this a trim sensitive airplane?

[mtnairpilot]

The short bodies are.  Long bodies not as much.

[jvandervalk]

is this a long body?

[mtnairpilot]

Yes. It is an MU2B-60 Marquise.

[Spec62]

Nice video. I truly enjoyed watching.

[JamKick]

Here's a tip, if u dont use the wipers, remove them and get up to 7 more knots in cruise

[Americanpilot1228]

Thanks for the video! I love that airplane. Been wanting a ride in one forever but can't find anyone close that has one. Thanks!

[knght1216]

Friggin great video and I mean great. Thanks...

[handlemannen]

Nice video thx. Gotta love the Mitsubishi.

[WillABQ]

Thanks for taking the time to make your videos. What a wonderful airplane!

[SkyWayMan90]

WOW! Talk about prime real-estate on the edge of that runway . . . or at least for pilots and aviation buffs :)

[ScabbyNubtail]

Great video...boy that's a tight runway! :-)

[premier1guy]

Hmmm, why did you takeoff WITH the wind? (saw the windsock) Does that strip configuration force all departures from one way?

Great video.

It is a great airport - there are other videos here on YouTube on this airstrip.

The most nervous part for me was the last turn on taxi ... right on the edge of the cliff. A foot slip or two, and ... down you go!

[mtnairpilot]

Yes, there is a significant gradient making 14 strongly preferred for departures and 32 for landing. You can see it in the middle third of the runway.

[supercash4you]

mtnairpilot, THANX for sharing, I'm in Columbia SC, have to pay a visit.......

[jex9]

Thats a beautiful airstrip, what state is it located?

[mtnairpilot]

Burnsville, NC, about 25 miles north of Asheville. The identifier is 2NC0.

[Andypilot333]

Call me a whimp if you like but you would NEVER get me landing at this runway ! Only 850m long and with a bank and trees on one side and the parking area and another bank on the other side!!!

[mtnairpilot]

It does have some challenges, but an on-speed, on-target short field approach in an MU2 results in a ground roll of 1000 ft/300m. Normally the airplane is stopped in the first half of the runway. If you properly commit yourself to a go-around early in the approach if required, the risk is manageable.

[Ironmaidenrock4eva]

is that runway an abandoned highway or has it been built on mountains

[mtnairpilot]

It's a private airport in western NC built into the side of Slickrock Mountain. The runway is 2785 feet long, elevation 4600.

[khaotikraje]

I really enjoyed your series detailing the MU-2. I've always been a fan of the plane ever since I started working as a ramp agent for UPS at KSLC. UPS's contract with Ameriflight brought us 11 aircraft a night from feeder facilities throughout the region, one of which being a lone MU-2 (N888SE). It has always been my favourite out of the fleet of Fairchild Metroliners, Beechcraft 1900D's and Beech C99's.

Thanks for posting.

-Casey

[pilotGA]

Nice landing... really nice short field landing.

[geraldo209]

oh and i have a question why you leave the power levers on take off position when parked? also noticed that on your previous vid. we dont do that here. thanks

[mtnairpilot]

Two reasons: 1) It let's the oil out of the prop hubs quicker after the props are on the stops and the engines are shut down and 2) It makes it easier to get in/out of the pilot seat. Good question, Thanks

[geraldo209]

Hello Friend nice vid. as a MU2 co-pilot i had to notice 2 thing. no check-list readings and get a co-pilot to syncronize those props for ya. passengers will have a much more confortable flight without those unsycronized props noises

[brettb100]

Great airplane.....prop sync would be nice though

[SkiMadRiverGlen]

How about you and Greg Mink get some friendly MU2 Video competition going ?

Gotta tell you....Hearing those engines light up and watching the tachs climb really got me going! Nice job.

[tom080955]

Where the devil are you flying out of?! and that wall on the starboard side...hmmm...lol