That is the discussion: List and Wagner, or Brahms and Beethoven? The talent isn t questionable by none of those, there philosophical background is the problem. I find Lisztian or Wagnerian way of thinking (and composing) underdeveloped, childish (in a bad way), and naive. Their music narates without a mystery, stays on the surface and misses to actualy express the things that are in the origin of "all things created". They talk long and loud about the deeper things,but don t really touch them.
@Labroidas Thats the common misconception about both Liszt's and Wagner's music. They were looking ahaed of their times Brahms Mendelssohn looked back. Beethoven was also looking ahead. It's because Brahms and the "Leipzig" school that 90% of most modern concert repertoire is "historic" music. I have nothing against that, but Liszt and Wagner were visionaries established the future of the music. Mendelssohn and Brahms didn't establish anything new.
@Labroidas Thats the common misconception about both Liszt's and Wagner's music. They were looking ahead of their times Brahms Mendelssohn looked back. Beethoven was also looking ahead. It's because Brahms and the "Leipzig" school that 90% of most modern concert repertoire is "historic" music. I have nothing against that, but Liszt and Wagner were visionaries established the future of the music. Mendelssohn and Brahms didn't establish anything new.
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Such beautiful awesome and inspiring music. Too bad it contradicts the teachings of the Bible. God, in the form of His Holy Spirit, draws us heavenward. No one else. If people, and not just Catholics, would begin to look to Jesus Christ and seek HIM - this world could be transformed overnight.
Well said: you are one hundred percent right!!!!! However, I am blown away by Mahler's 8th symphony, and I am disappointed that it is no theologically right. However, I am touched and moved by Goethe's inclusion of the Blessed Mother and her importance.
Of course it's "questionable". People will not universally accept Scripture as Truth because it contains themes that go against the common man's belief system. I, personally, can't fathom a God who would leave the glory of heaven and come to earth to suffer and die for those who were killing Him. But I believe the Bible to be the authoritative Word of God ... and it says He did. As far as expanding my mind, reading other writings IS good; but those were not inspired by God.
Tenor is Kenneth Riegel. I'm singing in the front row ot the Tanglewood Festival Chorus in this recorded performance, and it is still thrilling to see and hear this excerpt after all these years. The complete performance is now available on a DG DVD. Liszt's Faust Symphony was one of Lennie's specialties, learned early on when still a protege of Koussevitzky in Boston, who himself led the BSO in thrilling perfoirmances of this work. We all miss LB terribly....
After all of the Liszt I have heard, and played (or tried) I continue to have difficulty figuring out why he is not known as widely among common people as say Tchaikovsky, or Beethoven, etc. It is beyond me to find out why. He was as much as a genius, a creator and innovator.
He was a lot more creative and innovate than Tchaikovsky, I should think.
Britney Spears is more widely known than either of them, but that doesn't say much about their merit - Sturgeon's law applies to people's tastes, along with much else.
His melodies are quite complex and multifaceted, which I believe makes them less 'acessible' to the general public. They are still no less evocative than Tchaikovsky, or no less masterful than Beethoven.
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MrANTONIOS383 10 months ago
@MrANTONIOS383 maestoso, πραγματικα αιωνιο...
lampwithbulb2 2 months ago
Shitty bernstein f's up the second movement, violinist cant keep rythmic pulse. does no one respect liszt?
Gargantupimp 11 months ago
Wait, are the lyrics the original play?
forgottenbooks 11 months ago
That is the discussion: List and Wagner, or Brahms and Beethoven? The talent isn t questionable by none of those, there philosophical background is the problem. I find Lisztian or Wagnerian way of thinking (and composing) underdeveloped, childish (in a bad way), and naive. Their music narates without a mystery, stays on the surface and misses to actualy express the things that are in the origin of "all things created". They talk long and loud about the deeper things,but don t really touch them.
Labroidas 11 months ago
@Labroidas unlike? :///
OberonZg 11 months ago
@Labroidas Thats the common misconception about both Liszt's and Wagner's music. They were looking ahaed of their times Brahms Mendelssohn looked back. Beethoven was also looking ahead. It's because Brahms and the "Leipzig" school that 90% of most modern concert repertoire is "historic" music. I have nothing against that, but Liszt and Wagner were visionaries established the future of the music. Mendelssohn and Brahms didn't establish anything new.
vizipok01 9 months ago
@Labroidas Thats the common misconception about both Liszt's and Wagner's music. They were looking ahead of their times Brahms Mendelssohn looked back. Beethoven was also looking ahead. It's because Brahms and the "Leipzig" school that 90% of most modern concert repertoire is "historic" music. I have nothing against that, but Liszt and Wagner were visionaries established the future of the music. Mendelssohn and Brahms didn't establish anything new.
vizipok01 9 months ago
@Labroidas
You must be kidding.
boxers7x5 3 weeks ago
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the tenor is Kenneth Riegel...
tntn58 1 year ago
the tenor is Kenneth Riegel...
tntn58 1 year ago
Good tenor!
intervalkid 1 year ago
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Such beautiful awesome and inspiring music. Too bad it contradicts the teachings of the Bible. God, in the form of His Holy Spirit, draws us heavenward. No one else. If people, and not just Catholics, would begin to look to Jesus Christ and seek HIM - this world could be transformed overnight.
dave0mary 2 years ago
transformed? into what? wouldn't it be a boring place if everyone agreed on everything? what is life without struggle?
h0ah0ah0ah0ah0a 2 years ago
Well said: you are one hundred percent right!!!!! However, I am blown away by Mahler's 8th symphony, and I am disappointed that it is no theologically right. However, I am touched and moved by Goethe's inclusion of the Blessed Mother and her importance.
GusMahler8 2 years ago
The authority of the Bible is questionable. I suggest you read some Goethe. It might broaden your mind.
Brideshead09 2 years ago
Of course it's "questionable". People will not universally accept Scripture as Truth because it contains themes that go against the common man's belief system. I, personally, can't fathom a God who would leave the glory of heaven and come to earth to suffer and die for those who were killing Him. But I believe the Bible to be the authoritative Word of God ... and it says He did. As far as expanding my mind, reading other writings IS good; but those were not inspired by God.
dave0mary 2 years ago
Amen! I agree. Goethe is not divinely inspired.
owatson322utube 1 year ago
@dave0mary GOD IS LOVE.ALL ETERNITY IS NOTHING COMPARE THE LOVE OF GOD
MrANTONIOS383 10 months ago
Wow! I only dream about being able to play under Bernstein. How fortunate you are.
muzomanoz 2 years ago 2
Yes, it's a moment to cherish throughout life, surely. He was a great soul.
Haidimbya 2 years ago
Tenor is Kenneth Riegel. I'm singing in the front row ot the Tanglewood Festival Chorus in this recorded performance, and it is still thrilling to see and hear this excerpt after all these years. The complete performance is now available on a DG DVD. Liszt's Faust Symphony was one of Lennie's specialties, learned early on when still a protege of Koussevitzky in Boston, who himself led the BSO in thrilling perfoirmances of this work. We all miss LB terribly....
JWEHRLICH 2 years ago 3
what a tenor. bravo. who is that?
marfikgnidka 2 years ago
This is amazing!
jpd102679 2 years ago
I would like to hear John Vickers sing this.
OperaBaritoneJoe 3 years ago
Some amazing moustaches going on there.
cziffra1980 3 years ago 17
gonna sing this tonight in Lublin-Poland
Jasmim83 3 years ago 2
Wow - what a find. Greatest ever! I love Liszt, this is one of my favorite symphonies.
chrisridenhour 4 years ago 2
After all of the Liszt I have heard, and played (or tried) I continue to have difficulty figuring out why he is not known as widely among common people as say Tchaikovsky, or Beethoven, etc. It is beyond me to find out why. He was as much as a genius, a creator and innovator.
itlisztens 4 years ago 23
He was a lot more creative and innovate than Tchaikovsky, I should think.
Britney Spears is more widely known than either of them, but that doesn't say much about their merit - Sturgeon's law applies to people's tastes, along with much else.
nullnvnvnv 3 years ago 2
His melodies are quite complex and multifaceted, which I believe makes them less 'acessible' to the general public. They are still no less evocative than Tchaikovsky, or no less masterful than Beethoven.
XunleashthewolvesX 2 years ago
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Gargantupimp 1 year ago
Which part has the augmented scale?
Erudecorp 4 years ago
I performed this yesterday in Stockholm! It was nice.
pulverapa 4 years ago
Same....
XunleashthewolvesX 2 years ago
Most underrated symphony of them all, bravo Liszt!
jusducky 4 years ago
My favorite part of the whole symphony. Last part brings me to tears
awatkins69 4 years ago
This recording of the Faust Symphony won the Grand Prix de Disque in 1978.
m2205k 4 years ago
Yes, very nice, but a little bit too slow. "Andante mistico" is still Andante, not Lento.
liszt80 4 years ago
Pretty good!
stringendo 4 years ago
fantastic !
Spartakino 5 years ago