It's a shame that "A Southern Company" really means part of a conglamorate of companies under Southern not southern and proud.. Shameful and degrading. Camp 586 got your back
I thing going to work for Georgia Power would be a conflict of my interests. You can't be individuals and work for Georgia Power. If you show any kind of loyalty toward the South by displaying anything that is generally related to the South, you are likely to be fired by Georgia Power even if you show your pride and heritage when you are not at work. I personally think it's a crock of poo and I will help you guys any way I can. Go get `em!!!
As an American soldier with Confederate heritage, I am appalled at the lack of respect for American history. No matter what army they belonged to, if they served with that army, they deserve to have that flag flown at their place of rest. I am a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, myself... and a proud American Iraq & Afghanistan Veteran.
Let's try this again - 1st one vanished! Thanks for posting this vid and keeping us informed. I've heard nothing about this & I even have friens living in various parts of GA. I will pay a visit to the Heard Citizen site and leave a friendly opinion! Thanks again & God bless.
one of many incidents where the goverment is trying to be politiically correct to not offend any one this should'nt offend anyone these people died for what they belived in and that's not wrong!!
Thanks for shedding light into this, Smith. So, question, why is Mr. Kuntswellow Monroe not being arrested and convicted of a misdemeanor, as the law of the great state of Georgia instructs? The law clearly states that anyone who desecrates a Confederate flag in the state of Georgia, in breach of the Sec 50-3-9, shall be convicted of a misdemeanor. Why is he, who actually has the audacity to proudly announce that he has broken the law, and will break again publicly, not in jail?!
Not only are the actual perpetrators guilty of a misdemeanor, those planning and ordering the crimes are guilty of conspiracy to commit criminal acts, which is a felony.
My parents were from GA and all my Confederate ancestors fought in Georgia regiments but Georgia ain't what it used to be. The attitudes I saw 2 years ago in Georgia, which was when I lived there,were very yankee-like. The churches were not preaching like they should have, most people were unconcerned w/anything Confederate and the things most people cared about were money, drug of choice and sexual immorality. Georgia Power is another faceless corporate rip-off, probably not even Southern!
@OneWayRawk I live in Texas, my confederate ancestors are buried in Georgia. I wish I was closer. I'm going back to check that my flags are still there.
OWR...first off, Great choice of music. The Southern/Confederate community needs to make Jonathan's music their video standard, like you and Michael with SNN have been. 2nd....thanks for all your vids with info and all the works you are doing for the continued "Cause". 3rd.....God Bless Texas. I am a 4th and 5th Gen. Texan on either side of my family. My Confed. ancestors were in Tennessee, Virginia, and my GGGg-dad who was Corp. of L Co, 2nd Kentucky Cavalry; Morgan's Raiders.
@Fenianboyo---Ahh, you know your stuff! You know Celtic Confederate and Michael!! Thank you for taking the stand with us and I agree with you---God Bless Texas and your Ancestors that fought for the South!!!
@OneWayRawk people dont know anything about texas history and how texas was overrun with the rich land owners that fled states like alabama, geogia, mississippi, etc... to come to texas and use their dollars to prop up the confederacy here because they knew TX would be the last place emancipation would reach (which it was). see Sam Houston's resignation when TX joined the confederacy.
texas fought for its own independence by itself, not for the confederacy to just come take it.
@vapido why did Texas join the Union? they did that befor joining the C.S.A., didn't they? I'm from Alabama, but in Austin at the moment and haven't caught all the way up on history yet. I know there was something of a Confederate retirement home in Austin for soldiers and their wives who's income fell @ or below the poverty line. Their graves are in the Texas State Cemetery in Austin, I was just there today actually. Graves of the ppl from the Confederate home, if I wasn't clear.
@sonotarockstar well there was opposition. just had a pres at the time that made it happen. the confederacy lies with the common folk as with any war. the ideas that form in the minds of a people can be greatly influenced by the government which is in turn guided by dollars. tx won ind in '36, statehood in '45, and csa in '61. not long spans to go from settlers n ranchers to those willing to die for slavery.
sam houston's resignation speech pretty much sums it up.
@sonotarockstar and i do not hate on confederate soldiers. i believe them to be righteous souls in their own right, im just sad that they had to die for it.
i have never been to those graves, but im going to austin this weekend, maybe ill get a chance to stop by.
@vapido You mention the government (in this case the Confederacy) lieing with the common folk as with any war. That, if I understood you correctly, is some we agree on. I think "propaganda" still exist today as it did back then. The documents of secession(sp?) as we have them recorded today mention slavery in almost each state if not each state, so it's hard for me to argue that slavery played no role whatsoever in the war, But there's enough evidence to show the propaganda went both ways.
@sonotarockstar i absolutely think propaganda to throw the working class into a war created by and benefiting the rich is something we find throughout history, on both sides of the coin. many things get whitewashed which is why it becomes hard to pinpoint exact reasons for things in human history. you might get a few points, but the broader spectrum is usually left open for inquiry and argument.
@sonotarockstar but yes, you cant rule out slavery as one of the causes. race played a large factor in the thought processes of the people in the south, as you would find stated in some states declarations of secession (other states simply had ordinances of secession) The general feeling that if slaves were freed, the poor whites would be on the same social scale as them, and that would be unacceptable. hence the jim crow era following the war.
@sonotarockstar and I think that most people dont understand how bad it was for blacks in the south post-war. i often here people talk about it like it was a 100 years ago, but it was barely 50. if you want to get info on both sides of the coin and make a fair comparison i would suggest looking up some of the "Slave Narratives" (a work put together by the wpa) it really puts slavery and post war for blacks into perspective.
@vapido One thing is though, the raceist were up North, too. See my other post about Lincoln. Furthormore, certain northern states maid laws makeing it difficalt for freed blacks to move in their states. When Vicksburg, Miss. was captured, he decided to make the city a "model of Reconstruction" and moved alot of freed blacks there himslef. I think with the same motivation in mind, i.e. the North didn't want them. Nor did the North want any extra competition in it's work force. Some heroes=/
@sonotarockstar i was more referencing the 20th century through the 60's. the race violence of the south then is what set the tone of most peoples attitudes towards the flag. there was a lot of violence brought on both white and black people during that time. some pretty horrible things happened. i dont argue that the north was bad about it also during the war, ive read accounts of slaves who made it north only to receive the same treatment there.
@vapido You're right about some of the 20th centry groups Klan or Nazi's or whoever. They've also used the U.S flag and Nazi flag (well, I guess that kinda makes since if they call themselves Neo-Nazi's). Lol, I'm not trying to defend any of the 20th century groups at all.
@sonotarockstar I'm from the south (Texas), and i believe in southern pride, but not racism and hate. maybe its different for me since i am from texas, a state that won its independence with the help of blacks and whites alike.
its too bad that so much hate is associated with the rebel flag, but its those who crusaded for it in the recent past that have tarnished its reputation and left a bad taste in peoples mouths.
@vapido If nothing else, we both have Southern pride and agree on raceism being a bad thing and ppl in more recent history giveing the flag a bad name. Lol, I'm in Austin right now. Don't get me started on Texas, I'm from Alabama by the way. My mom has been here in Austin since 2001, I just showed up. There year we beat you in the championship, one of her neighbors had said earlier in the season "Texas and Alabama don't even play each other, Alabama would never win anyways." Lol, we did. =)
@vapido oh, I brought up black ppl owning slave. Lincoln himself at one time mentioned the idea of sending freed slaves to Central or South America. He said the was a biological differance between whites and blacks we'd never get past. Furthormore, he never thought blacks should vote or have equal status as whites. Point is, there's a lot of crap (in my opinion) about Lincoln being a great guy, him and MLK Jr. would never have been freinds. Thus, also, the war wasn't so much about raceism.
@vapido An easy example for me to bring up are Lincoln's own words. One of his quotes posted on the walls of the Lincoln monument in D.C. states his reason for the war being maintaining the union and NOT slavery (he says both ends). There's a video somewhere here on YouTube where someone films that quote on the wall with his camera. There was the Marrill Tarriff as well. My thoughts are Union white washed (pun not intended) alot to give itself the moral high ground in post war season.
@vapido Lol, sorry, I'm clearly on a rant here, I guess. But all that aside, consider Robert E. Lee's stance as well. He had already been an officer in the fedeal (U.S.) army. And word has it he wasn't cracy about secceding. When war broke out, there was no way in heck he was going to march troops against his homeland of Virginia where he and his family, friends, and neighbors lived. He was loyal to his home and ppl first so he joined the south. I suspect many shared simular feelings.
I hope this ends. Us south has been know for being polite, having respect and having manners, but where is Georgia Power's respect and manners for those of others?
@CowgirlUpAQHA----Hey, thank you so much for taking the time to voice your opinion. We have sat back for waaaay to long and let people just run us over....run us over in the present and run our ancestors over in the past...now it's time to stand up against all of this mess and take a stand. Thank you for watching the video!!
I love how this story is not reported in local news! I have hunted in this county and if I hunt there this year will make sure those flags will be on said graves! I will also contact local government about it!
@cowboyhippie---Grassroots effort my friend. You wont see things like this on Good Morning America or Fox and Friends or even show on CNN or MSNBC and so forth. I appreciate you standing up for the cause my friend!
@darthroden---by an artist that goes by the name of "Celtic Confederate"---the first song is called "St. Andrew Flag" and the second song is called " Goodbye Polly"---you can find him on Youtube/Facebook.
So rediculous...taking History away like that...that is so so not right !!!!!
Buzzkut37 3 weeks ago
It's a shame that "A Southern Company" really means part of a conglamorate of companies under Southern not southern and proud.. Shameful and degrading. Camp 586 got your back
rebelproud81 1 month ago
Takeing
65elco1 1 month ago
I am not much of a belive to much with the confederates but that isnt cool talking flags
65elco1 1 month ago
My granny and papaw have Confederate flags on their graves and aint no way in hell andone will ever take'em down!!!!!
jessewolfeofficial 2 months ago
I live about an hour from Georgia Power but didn't here anything about this messed up situation. Its a shame people took them flags off those graves.
Alabama2220 2 months ago
I thing going to work for Georgia Power would be a conflict of my interests. You can't be individuals and work for Georgia Power. If you show any kind of loyalty toward the South by displaying anything that is generally related to the South, you are likely to be fired by Georgia Power even if you show your pride and heritage when you are not at work. I personally think it's a crock of poo and I will help you guys any way I can. Go get `em!!!
atch2824 3 months ago
Ppl see them 13 stars an think HATE but its not about it its about heritage some a lot of ppl know nothing about good videos bro
nattydranker61 3 months ago
As an American soldier with Confederate heritage, I am appalled at the lack of respect for American history. No matter what army they belonged to, if they served with that army, they deserve to have that flag flown at their place of rest. I am a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans, myself... and a proud American Iraq & Afghanistan Veteran.
CuzDaniel 3 months ago
nice video! thanks for keeping us up to date. this is why i joined the league of the south! if we dont fight, we loose everything.
coyote5455 3 months ago
October 19, 2011 Confederate Flags Returned to Graves by Georgia Power
jimmy30265 4 months ago
Let's try this again - 1st one vanished! Thanks for posting this vid and keeping us informed. I've heard nothing about this & I even have friens living in various parts of GA. I will pay a visit to the Heard Citizen site and leave a friendly opinion! Thanks again & God bless.
Fyrenspyce 4 months ago
Georgia Power? Sounds like a hate group to me.
LukeWapelhorst 4 months ago
one of many incidents where the goverment is trying to be politiically correct to not offend any one this should'nt offend anyone these people died for what they belived in and that's not wrong!!
fenderjagmeister 4 months ago
i agree with your video
melissabea 4 months ago
@melissabea---Thank You!!
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
Way to get this out in the open.
akbrown15 4 months ago
@akbrown15---Thanks Man, I do what I can. I should have done the one awhile back...the one that you messaged me about. I can be lazy at times.
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
Thanks for shedding light into this, Smith. So, question, why is Mr. Kuntswellow Monroe not being arrested and convicted of a misdemeanor, as the law of the great state of Georgia instructs? The law clearly states that anyone who desecrates a Confederate flag in the state of Georgia, in breach of the Sec 50-3-9, shall be convicted of a misdemeanor. Why is he, who actually has the audacity to proudly announce that he has broken the law, and will break again publicly, not in jail?!
MSfeller 4 months ago
Fun fact: I'm a direct descendant of the person that Heard County is named after, Stephen Heard.
ToothSIayer 4 months ago
Not only are the actual perpetrators guilty of a misdemeanor, those planning and ordering the crimes are guilty of conspiracy to commit criminal acts, which is a felony.
Go after them, boys.
fastpat1 4 months ago
@fastpat1----We are all going after 'em---REBEL YELL!! :0)---Deo Vindice!!
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
@OneWayRawk
how can I find out about my Confederate family??? What website????
jessewolfeofficial 2 months ago
My parents were from GA and all my Confederate ancestors fought in Georgia regiments but Georgia ain't what it used to be. The attitudes I saw 2 years ago in Georgia, which was when I lived there,were very yankee-like. The churches were not preaching like they should have, most people were unconcerned w/anything Confederate and the things most people cared about were money, drug of choice and sexual immorality. Georgia Power is another faceless corporate rip-off, probably not even Southern!
ConfederateGypsy 4 months ago
Georgia Power is just wrong, how would they like it if we toke something off there family's graves. I'm sure they would not like it.
SOUTHOFTENN 4 months ago
They wouldn't remove the flag from any of my dead relatives graves'.
nelsondw 4 months ago
@nelsondw---I agree man...it would only happen once with mine...there would be no second time.
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
@OneWayRawk I live in Texas, my confederate ancestors are buried in Georgia. I wish I was closer. I'm going back to check that my flags are still there.
Defcon458 1 month ago
OWR...first off, Great choice of music. The Southern/Confederate community needs to make Jonathan's music their video standard, like you and Michael with SNN have been. 2nd....thanks for all your vids with info and all the works you are doing for the continued "Cause". 3rd.....God Bless Texas. I am a 4th and 5th Gen. Texan on either side of my family. My Confed. ancestors were in Tennessee, Virginia, and my GGGg-dad who was Corp. of L Co, 2nd Kentucky Cavalry; Morgan's Raiders.
Fenianboyo 4 months ago
@Fenianboyo---Ahh, you know your stuff! You know Celtic Confederate and Michael!! Thank you for taking the stand with us and I agree with you---God Bless Texas and your Ancestors that fought for the South!!!
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
@OneWayRawk people dont know anything about texas history and how texas was overrun with the rich land owners that fled states like alabama, geogia, mississippi, etc... to come to texas and use their dollars to prop up the confederacy here because they knew TX would be the last place emancipation would reach (which it was). see Sam Houston's resignation when TX joined the confederacy.
texas fought for its own independence by itself, not for the confederacy to just come take it.
vapido 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@vapido why did Texas join the Union? they did that befor joining the C.S.A., didn't they? I'm from Alabama, but in Austin at the moment and haven't caught all the way up on history yet. I know there was something of a Confederate retirement home in Austin for soldiers and their wives who's income fell @ or below the poverty line. Their graves are in the Texas State Cemetery in Austin, I was just there today actually. Graves of the ppl from the Confederate home, if I wasn't clear.
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
@sonotarockstar well there was opposition. just had a pres at the time that made it happen. the confederacy lies with the common folk as with any war. the ideas that form in the minds of a people can be greatly influenced by the government which is in turn guided by dollars. tx won ind in '36, statehood in '45, and csa in '61. not long spans to go from settlers n ranchers to those willing to die for slavery.
sam houston's resignation speech pretty much sums it up.
vapido 3 weeks ago
@sonotarockstar and i do not hate on confederate soldiers. i believe them to be righteous souls in their own right, im just sad that they had to die for it.
i have never been to those graves, but im going to austin this weekend, maybe ill get a chance to stop by.
vapido 3 weeks ago
@vapido You mention the government (in this case the Confederacy) lieing with the common folk as with any war. That, if I understood you correctly, is some we agree on. I think "propaganda" still exist today as it did back then. The documents of secession(sp?) as we have them recorded today mention slavery in almost each state if not each state, so it's hard for me to argue that slavery played no role whatsoever in the war, But there's enough evidence to show the propaganda went both ways.
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
@sonotarockstar i absolutely think propaganda to throw the working class into a war created by and benefiting the rich is something we find throughout history, on both sides of the coin. many things get whitewashed which is why it becomes hard to pinpoint exact reasons for things in human history. you might get a few points, but the broader spectrum is usually left open for inquiry and argument.
vapido 3 weeks ago
@sonotarockstar but yes, you cant rule out slavery as one of the causes. race played a large factor in the thought processes of the people in the south, as you would find stated in some states declarations of secession (other states simply had ordinances of secession) The general feeling that if slaves were freed, the poor whites would be on the same social scale as them, and that would be unacceptable. hence the jim crow era following the war.
vapido 3 weeks ago
@sonotarockstar and I think that most people dont understand how bad it was for blacks in the south post-war. i often here people talk about it like it was a 100 years ago, but it was barely 50. if you want to get info on both sides of the coin and make a fair comparison i would suggest looking up some of the "Slave Narratives" (a work put together by the wpa) it really puts slavery and post war for blacks into perspective.
vapido 3 weeks ago
@vapido One thing is though, the raceist were up North, too. See my other post about Lincoln. Furthormore, certain northern states maid laws makeing it difficalt for freed blacks to move in their states. When Vicksburg, Miss. was captured, he decided to make the city a "model of Reconstruction" and moved alot of freed blacks there himslef. I think with the same motivation in mind, i.e. the North didn't want them. Nor did the North want any extra competition in it's work force. Some heroes=/
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
@sonotarockstar i was more referencing the 20th century through the 60's. the race violence of the south then is what set the tone of most peoples attitudes towards the flag. there was a lot of violence brought on both white and black people during that time. some pretty horrible things happened. i dont argue that the north was bad about it also during the war, ive read accounts of slaves who made it north only to receive the same treatment there.
vapido 3 weeks ago
@vapido You're right about some of the 20th centry groups Klan or Nazi's or whoever. They've also used the U.S flag and Nazi flag (well, I guess that kinda makes since if they call themselves Neo-Nazi's). Lol, I'm not trying to defend any of the 20th century groups at all.
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
@sonotarockstar I'm from the south (Texas), and i believe in southern pride, but not racism and hate. maybe its different for me since i am from texas, a state that won its independence with the help of blacks and whites alike.
its too bad that so much hate is associated with the rebel flag, but its those who crusaded for it in the recent past that have tarnished its reputation and left a bad taste in peoples mouths.
vapido 3 weeks ago
@vapido If nothing else, we both have Southern pride and agree on raceism being a bad thing and ppl in more recent history giveing the flag a bad name. Lol, I'm in Austin right now. Don't get me started on Texas, I'm from Alabama by the way. My mom has been here in Austin since 2001, I just showed up. There year we beat you in the championship, one of her neighbors had said earlier in the season "Texas and Alabama don't even play each other, Alabama would never win anyways." Lol, we did. =)
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
@vapido oh, I brought up black ppl owning slave. Lincoln himself at one time mentioned the idea of sending freed slaves to Central or South America. He said the was a biological differance between whites and blacks we'd never get past. Furthormore, he never thought blacks should vote or have equal status as whites. Point is, there's a lot of crap (in my opinion) about Lincoln being a great guy, him and MLK Jr. would never have been freinds. Thus, also, the war wasn't so much about raceism.
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
@sonotarockstar Not as much as they carry on about in the history books.
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
@vapido An easy example for me to bring up are Lincoln's own words. One of his quotes posted on the walls of the Lincoln monument in D.C. states his reason for the war being maintaining the union and NOT slavery (he says both ends). There's a video somewhere here on YouTube where someone films that quote on the wall with his camera. There was the Marrill Tarriff as well. My thoughts are Union white washed (pun not intended) alot to give itself the moral high ground in post war season.
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
@vapido Lol, sorry, I'm clearly on a rant here, I guess. But all that aside, consider Robert E. Lee's stance as well. He had already been an officer in the fedeal (U.S.) army. And word has it he wasn't cracy about secceding. When war broke out, there was no way in heck he was going to march troops against his homeland of Virginia where he and his family, friends, and neighbors lived. He was loyal to his home and ppl first so he joined the south. I suspect many shared simular feelings.
sonotarockstar 3 weeks ago
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jimmy30265 4 months ago
I voiced my opinion!
I hope this ends. Us south has been know for being polite, having respect and having manners, but where is Georgia Power's respect and manners for those of others?
CowgirlUpAQHA 4 months ago
@CowgirlUpAQHA----Hey, thank you so much for taking the time to voice your opinion. We have sat back for waaaay to long and let people just run us over....run us over in the present and run our ancestors over in the past...now it's time to stand up against all of this mess and take a stand. Thank you for watching the video!!
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
leave the flags alone.....ill never get rid of mine,southern bread country fed...will be till i die,
MegaSkeet420 4 months ago
@MegaSkeet420---I agree 100%
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
love this vid dude and couldnt agree more
FRArognetwork 4 months ago
@FRArognetwork---Thank you Sir!
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
I love how this story is not reported in local news! I have hunted in this county and if I hunt there this year will make sure those flags will be on said graves! I will also contact local government about it!
cowboyhippie 4 months ago
@cowboyhippie---Grassroots effort my friend. You wont see things like this on Good Morning America or Fox and Friends or even show on CNN or MSNBC and so forth. I appreciate you standing up for the cause my friend!
OneWayRawk 4 months ago
I love the song, what is it called?
darthroden 4 months ago
@darthroden---by an artist that goes by the name of "Celtic Confederate"---the first song is called "St. Andrew Flag" and the second song is called " Goodbye Polly"---you can find him on Youtube/Facebook.
OneWayRawk 4 months ago