British 500cc Motocross GP Hawkstone Park 1984 Part 1

[yorrakhunt]

RM500 Ebay 16/10/11

[TheRossirepaerox]

i wish i born then. back when companys didnt try and make us buy heavy overpriced hunks of junks called 4 strokes, all because they want our money.

[XXNERVEXX]

@TheRossirepaerox lmao u can still race ur piece of crap 1920s 2 stroke against the 4 strokes if u want. my guess is u suck tho. fool

[TheRossirepaerox]

@XXNERVEXX am pritty sure a 1980 cr 250 could be a 2011 crf 250, its only because ama want our money they only allow 2 stroke to be half the cc as 4 strokes.

[turboslag]

Absolutely !! Some of the Jap factory bikes were as trick as hell and as light as helium !! Honda were always getting into hassle for being underweight.

How good would it be to have MX on TV like it was then ?! Like all the other sports that were covered then but have disappeared from TV now, Rallycross, Autocross even banger racing !

[tjordulf]

Cos, even though they're on steel framed, non USD forks, heavy as shit bikes, they are still haulin ass. 500cc Two strokes, I mean, come on! I Satan road a bike it would be one of those! Incidentally, interesting to note the bars had virtually no rise on them and look quite laid back, like my old Husky CR125 twin shock, air cooled.

Wouldn't it be great to watch this video and suddenly see Carla pull an epic whip over one of the big jumps, or even a back flip. No, thats just silly now!

[husky500cr]

@tjordulf The bike were not heavy as shit, the bike were very light at 224 lb dry weight they are much lighter than the new 4 strokes. Some of the bikes had to add weight to them during check in time. Honda was famous for this. The new 4 strokes have to use special light metals just to get their weight near what these bike weighed. Why do all the young bucks think these bikes weighed so much. Before FIM and AMA set weight rules the factories had 400 cc bikes that weighed 190 lb.

[jhareng]

@husky500cr Totally agree a 78 KX250 weighed in at 188Lb, 125 A4, A6, A7 KX125 186Lb.

We wont mention the full blown Jap works bikes, think they used magnesium castings on hubs and crank cases etc.

Water cooling added some weight.

[ben2339]

Remember watching this race as a kid, great track! Where have the crowds gone these days?

[tjordulf]

@ben2339 I also remember watching this race as a teenager, In fact had it on VHS for a few years. Always remembered the bit where the commentator points out that Daves son Kurt was in the lead.

Listen, don't wish to start one off those typical youtube slanging matches, but is it just me, or does anyone else wonder if you time travelled Bubba or Ricky or Travis or one of the top UK riders into this race on their current bikes, how would they do in comparison?

[pursang833]

Epic track, just like Farleigh Castle.

[maempl]

nice memories, the good (and best) old 2 strokes, greetings from salzburg/austria (the country of KTM)

[Mistertbones]

Malherbe, Jobe, Geboers and Thorpe, four of the all time greats.

[MrKips1]

I had just turned sixteen and rode 48 miles on my Suzuki AP50 moped to watch. Fantastic stuff. Bring back the open class I say!!!

[broady42]

Wicked video. Has anyone got a clip of george jobe jumping the double over andre malherbes head please.

[AABINVESTIGATIONS]

@broady42  Don't think it was caught on video!

[jhareng]

Brings back memories, for those that dont know the hill went straight up where they turn left, there was a shear sandstone face at least 7ft high. Bomb hole changed as well since last time raced there.

[50337andy]

@jhareng Four of us went to this race (I was just 14). We walked the track on the Friday and you're right, the only way to climb the hill was to use your hands as well. A tuly awesome track back then. Too sanitised these days.

[jhareng]

@50337andy Just where they turn left at top of that hill, it then suddenly went steep carried further on around 20 yards.

Easy course was to turn right half way up the hill seen at start of video.

Last time raced there was New Years Day 1977 & 78 on a works British Rival.

Used to work next door until last year that bomb hole and main jump are now really shallow as well.

[50337andy]

@jhareng British Rival, was that a 250?

[jhareng]

@50337andy 125's only around 8 to 10 made, i had two plus a works.

There was a 4 stroke thumper using a Honda engine.

[heerkrupp64]

You can see the difference between Kurts bike and Dave's, it's a shame, Kurt was doing great, Dave's Honda has got some go in her though.

[stratboy8]

I was there too. It was a great day. I remember Thorpie wheelying up the hill on his lap of honour! Mint. Thanks for putting this up.

[Bazzerdunc]

I remember my older brother went to this meeting, I was only 12 and couldn't go. I was forced to go to cricket with mum and dad even though I pleaded to stay home and watch it on TV. However, we had just got a new video recorder and dad taped it. That evening I rushed into watch it...Dad had taped Grandstand on the other side!!! Athletics...I really cried.

[P39Bon]

Brilliant memories. Have you got more from Race2, like the bits when Jobe was doing the double?