I think Qualcomm isn't going to beat Intel/Marvell processors, they make mediocre chips and are aware of it. It's HTC that makes them popular. There are some priorities for phone/pda users and most of them prefer overall design, eyecandy GUI, neat software for GPS ... and processor power? Who cares, that sounds nerdy.
I'd like to see another video that compares animated 3D graphs rendered by XScale and Qualcomm in Spacetime.
Qualcomm sucks and HTC killed Pocket PCs, they never made any, just pda-phones! The technology they use is ancient, look at old good Axims and iPAQs that was the way to go, but now Pocket PCs - rest in peace :/
mahendrarc is right this video is just misleadiing, people might thought the intel is superior now without knowing the compression rate holds the key here.
He isn't right at all. It's not just about playing videos smoothly. Weak processors can handle weak compression smoothly, but the point is you'll get poor quality of video and a huge filesize. So better compression (like H.264) = more/longer videos with better quality and that definitely needs strong processor like XScale. Qualcomm is just too weak for that. With the current capacity of internal/external flash memories the compression type really matters.
Good concept but biased. I have O2 Atom Life which plays videos smoothly like home video. But still I say this demo is wrong. With suitable compression used for each DEVICE, I can play smooth video in all these models. As far as these models are concerned, all these models are capable of 30FPS smooth video, provided you use perfectly matching compression profile.
The video does not say that anywhere. People buy PDA/Smartphones for different needs and they come with different resolutions other than 320x240. If you mean this is the result of std videos from torrent sites I dont agree with this result. Its false. Then BTW Nokia N92 is best in playing 640x480x30FPS videos without special compression. Go checkout and u'll find it kicks ass of Intel WM. I still love my WM6 for my business use, but certely not for camera and video (both sucks).
N92 may be good in video capturing but not playing back DIVX or MOV in 30fps. i have that phone, i will record and post it shortly compare with my xda2 with intel chip.
I am not only talking about specifically N92. Any Nokia N-Series which is similarly or priced less than WM6 mobiles. They are good in video compared to any other PDA series. Camera clarity Rocks. What do you say about Camera of XDA-series. Its THIRD-CLASS and useless. And yes, I have seen DIVX videos playing smooth in N-Series, so no doubt about it. Anyways this debate is going to be too informative and I m happy for it.
pda phone is obvious not focus on camera. well only nokia normal phone users will complaint on such issue on camera quality as convert from CAMERA PHONE to PDA PHONE. i have real doubt of nokia to play divx in dvdrip quality. i just dun have the time to play with nokia n series anymore. but will do a compare & post next week since u say n92 is that great.
If PDA are not focused here for camera then discussing on Video playback is also useless here. Anyways thanks for posting your opinion. And yes... if you get a chance try some workaround on nokia n-series. they are fantastic and sure can play divx smoothly. I dont use it only because I am too used to Touchscreen. Else these latest Symbian phones are at top of the world and there is no doubt to anyone about it. I am looking forward in future versions of nokia with Touchscreen.
I have PDA without camera and video playback is really important for me. This thing would be much less useful if I couldn't watch a smooth videos/movies in good quality. PDAs are pocket computers, I don't make photos with my PC but use it to watch videos, run many useful apps, play games, connect to web - and PDA is also meant for it. You want to make photos and videos? Buy a cheap compact camera, most of them beat any PDA or phone.
the MWg Atom V had a higher clockspeed than all the other 3 anyway.. 520 MHz vs 400 Mhz. not completely fair if you ask me.
zilie 1 year ago
I think Qualcomm isn't going to beat Intel/Marvell processors, they make mediocre chips and are aware of it. It's HTC that makes them popular. There are some priorities for phone/pda users and most of them prefer overall design, eyecandy GUI, neat software for GPS ... and processor power? Who cares, that sounds nerdy.
I'd like to see another video that compares animated 3D graphs rendered by XScale and Qualcomm in Spacetime.
valdr666 2 years ago
Qualcomm sucks and HTC killed Pocket PCs, they never made any, just pda-phones! The technology they use is ancient, look at old good Axims and iPAQs that was the way to go, but now Pocket PCs - rest in peace :/
valdr666 2 years ago
agreed
qwer55555555 2 years ago
I still have my old ipaq 5450 it's still so cool with its fingerprint reader and joystick- like d -pad,
n4v1ns 2 years ago
Agreed. Intel makes One of the world's most powerful processors(Core i7). What makes qualcomm think they can beat intel?
PlanesAllTheWay 2 years ago
mahendrarc is right this video is just misleadiing, people might thought the intel is superior now without knowing the compression rate holds the key here.
dcsh79 3 years ago
He isn't right at all. It's not just about playing videos smoothly. Weak processors can handle weak compression smoothly, but the point is you'll get poor quality of video and a huge filesize. So better compression (like H.264) = more/longer videos with better quality and that definitely needs strong processor like XScale. Qualcomm is just too weak for that. With the current capacity of internal/external flash memories the compression type really matters.
valdr666 2 years ago
Good concept but biased. I have O2 Atom Life which plays videos smoothly like home video. But still I say this demo is wrong. With suitable compression used for each DEVICE, I can play smooth video in all these models. As far as these models are concerned, all these models are capable of 30FPS smooth video, provided you use perfectly matching compression profile.
mahendrarc 3 years ago
this video is correctly telling ppl that without another phrase of compression, ppl can play video as soon u got from bittorrents and all.
example like .MOV trailers u download from apple site can play smoothly with intel chip on tcpmp
Tabbeq 3 years ago
The video does not say that anywhere. People buy PDA/Smartphones for different needs and they come with different resolutions other than 320x240. If you mean this is the result of std videos from torrent sites I dont agree with this result. Its false. Then BTW Nokia N92 is best in playing 640x480x30FPS videos without special compression. Go checkout and u'll find it kicks ass of Intel WM. I still love my WM6 for my business use, but certely not for camera and video (both sucks).
mahendrarc 3 years ago
N92 may be good in video capturing but not playing back DIVX or MOV in 30fps. i have that phone, i will record and post it shortly compare with my xda2 with intel chip.
Tabbeq 3 years ago
I am not only talking about specifically N92. Any Nokia N-Series which is similarly or priced less than WM6 mobiles. They are good in video compared to any other PDA series. Camera clarity Rocks. What do you say about Camera of XDA-series. Its THIRD-CLASS and useless. And yes, I have seen DIVX videos playing smooth in N-Series, so no doubt about it. Anyways this debate is going to be too informative and I m happy for it.
mahendrarc 3 years ago
pda phone is obvious not focus on camera. well only nokia normal phone users will complaint on such issue on camera quality as convert from CAMERA PHONE to PDA PHONE. i have real doubt of nokia to play divx in dvdrip quality. i just dun have the time to play with nokia n series anymore. but will do a compare & post next week since u say n92 is that great.
Tabbeq 3 years ago
If PDA are not focused here for camera then discussing on Video playback is also useless here. Anyways thanks for posting your opinion. And yes... if you get a chance try some workaround on nokia n-series. they are fantastic and sure can play divx smoothly. I dont use it only because I am too used to Touchscreen. Else these latest Symbian phones are at top of the world and there is no doubt to anyone about it. I am looking forward in future versions of nokia with Touchscreen.
mahendrarc 3 years ago
I have PDA without camera and video playback is really important for me. This thing would be much less useful if I couldn't watch a smooth videos/movies in good quality. PDAs are pocket computers, I don't make photos with my PC but use it to watch videos, run many useful apps, play games, connect to web - and PDA is also meant for it. You want to make photos and videos? Buy a cheap compact camera, most of them beat any PDA or phone.
valdr666 2 years ago
Check out the Samsung i780 wit 624Mhz processor. Also it is now Marvell PXA processors. Intel sold this division 1.5 years to Marvell.
performa2008 3 years ago
great demo, good point. . .well made
sort it out HTC
live2themaxuk 3 years ago 5
I guess I should have got an Atom...they sure are cheaper aren't they? Suck @ HTC + Qualcomm
surgeyX 3 years ago