Homeschooling & Indoctrination in Germany

[1533ramsay]

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[1533ramsay]

PipeFriendCHS comment on hatred to minorities, we are part of a home school group in t)

[voldy18]

If I'm skeptical of home schooling then mainly because I'm just not convinced that parents can provide the same education that 13 years of school delivers with up to 19 subjects (German, Math, English, French, Spanish, Italian, Latin, History, Political science and economics, Religious Education, Biology, Chemistry, Physics, Geography, Social studies, Computer science, Music, Art, PE) and about 30 hours every week. The basics? Sure. Beyond that? Eh.

[PlaceBoInternational]

I know this family personally, they visited my home church here in Nashville a while ago. It's nice to hear you have the same feelings!

[padseenoodle]

Well said Joffre. You would think Germany would have learned these lessons already. It sad but Europe is dying out anyway as no one is having children except immigrant cultures that honor children and family life.

[jordneu06]

im a homeschooler and im a junior but everyone sais that just because i dont go to highschool im not a junior and i havent even been a freshman. i get my GED in june while they stay in school an extra year. You have to have parents that want to help you learn its not for parents who jus want to spend more time with your kids during the day school is of priority or else you get behind and that jus sucks

[PipeFriendCHS]

I find the idea of home schooling hard to agree to, but that probably has to do with me growing up in Europe. The idea of home schooling in Germany where schools are superb, seems silly. However, in the US (and especially in our state, South Carolina) many schools are horrid and I find my self actually considering that home schooling might be a good thing if your area has only abysmal schools. I always have a fear that religious homeschooling will instill hatred for minorities in kids.

[donnellylv]

It was so distracting to see you contantly puffing on your pipe that I couldn't even watch this.

[B4man75]

I would base the curriculum on the Trivium (including religious studies, or not, as you see fit), the foundation of the Liberal Arts. Give the child a strong mental tool box to prepare for higher education, when she will be able to confidently tackle any subject she choose to pursue. I think some type of summer camp would be an essential element. Music (Arts) or Sports (PE) based, or both if possible. Drama camps would be cool. Do they even still have SummerStocks? Grammar, Logic, Rhetoric.

[B4man75]

For the sake of argument, I will side on the parents' rights to educate their child. I just hope they're educated enough themselves and extremely dedicated.

The social factor would worry the most if I were to home school a child. There's no skirting around the issue. I think you'd have to expose the children to as many secular social activities as possible. Team sports, hobby groups, and group dance or musical interests would be a definite.They're going to need exposure a diverse group.

[B4man75]

"Give me a child until he is seven and I will give you the man".

Where are the child's rights? People need a license for the privilege to drive a vehicle or a license for the right to carry a firearm. Any fools can hop right into the baby making business, willy-nilly. He may not be the State's property, but does that make him your "property"? Are you free to indoctrinate his little egg shell mind with any old information, or religious dogma YOU like or believe? Not an easy question to approach.

[ThinkFaster66]

also homeschoolers have the advantage that when they need advice they tend to go to their parents instead of a classmate. their parents can give them advice that is based off of years of experience where as a classmate probably has none in that area whatsoever. this produces a person who, when he or she leaves home, will have learned from their parents experience and be able to use that wisdom in their own life. not be lost in life do to misinformation from classmates. same for maturity.

[ThinkFaster66]

I detest those horrible stereotypes about homeschoolers. i was homeschooled most of my childhood and i know from experience that even in cases when kids don't have social skills that the world would consider "normal", the social skills of those kids are still better grounded in reality and logic than most public schoolers tend to be. there are always exceptions but generally this is true.

[silverchairbookstore]

@ThinkFaster66 I also think there's a greater tendency for dorky parents to homeschool their kids. But dorky parents tend to beget dorky kids regardless of where the kids are educated.

[ThinkFaster66]

hahaha. maybe in some places but i know lots of homeschoolers and only about 1/4 to 1/3 are dorky. i know my folks are not dorky and my friends parents are not dorky. allot of them are very real very down to earth people. and great Christians too. then on the other hand, though i know allot of homeschoolers, they are only about half in the area. haha

[filthyfucr]

They have a sad history in Germany. Years of wars religious, militarism, & political. Fascism and communism were just the last of a long long struggle. It's not the USA so we should judge them by our standards.

[silverchairbookstore]

That stereotype is a bit misguided. Although I suppose if you take me and Tim Tebow as examples, we don't do much to move away from that stereotype! :-)

The frightening thing here is that the State is making the claim that they decide what is valuable to teach children.

[NorthGeorgiaPipe]

I could not agree with you more! The State completely denies the "homegrown" values that make up the American Spirit! I am sure that other coutries cultivate their own ideas and worldviews which are appropiate to there country.

I see all channels moving toward a Global WorldView, For better or Worse!