Kayang Mabuhay ng taga MINDANAO kahit walang ano man na matatanggap mula sa national government ng Pilipinas. Ang mas magandang tanong ano ang mangyayari sa Pilipinas pag hindi na kontrolado ang MINDANO?
ang masasabi ko lng sa mga hndi nakakaintindi ng MOA-AD jan na bgla na lng satsat ng satsat ng wlang Halaga e basahin niyo muna ang MOA-AD o Memorandum of Agreement on Ancestral Domain.. Pra maintindihan niyo wag kau dadak ng dadak.. at higit sa lahat wag niyo ikumpara ang MNLF sa MILF dhil sobrang lau ng pagkakaiba!!
@tidus108 kahit anong memorandum pa ang isulong dyan sa mindanao kahit buong alpabeto pa ang gamitin para itawag sa kung anuman. kung meron mga tiwaling grupo sa mindanao walng mangyayari.lalo na yung mga nagkukubli sa relihiyon para sa personal na interes.kung sakaling maipasa ang MOA-AD sa tingin nyo ba matatahimik at di manggugulo ang mga MNLF,MILF....ito ang mahirap eh ginigisa ang gobyerno sa sariling mantika bakit kailangan magkaroon ng sharing agreement?
@tidus108 di ba sa ngayon san ba kumukuha ng pondo ang mindanao anong gobyerno ang nag popondo sa pangangailangan ng mindanao? diba pilipinas.alam nyo po kung anong meron tayo sa mindanao?"TERRITORIAL MENTALITY" ganito kami,di kami ganyan,ganun sa amin,di kami ganun,dito lang kami,hanggang dyan lng kayo,..kung magpapatuloy po ito kawawa ang susunod na henerasyon ng mindanao.
He mentioned "independent in a way that our lives will not be miserable." One could only think that by "miserable" he meant the current situation of the majority of Filipino Muslims in Mindanao as being poor. But if he just look around, it's not just the Filipino Muslims in Mindanao, but a good number of Filipinos are living in poverty in Luzon and the Visayas, and that number is increasing rapidly especially now that the whole world is in economic crisis.
He then went on to say that "You don't even respect our religion!" From this statement it was very clear to me that Mr. Mastura was brainwashed, just as other Filipino Muslims like him to believe that the Philippine government is maltreating them on a constant basis because they're Muslims. Last time I checked, the Philippines is a democratic country. If there's no such respect as he said, then why on Earth can they still practice Islam in Mindanao?
Did the Filipino Moros actually believe that by separating Mindanao from the Philippines it would end their misery? Then my friends, they need to wake up.
The real problem in Mindanao is oblivious to religion. The problme is neither Islam nor Christianity. It's CORRUPTION.
If we look back in time, the Philippine government had given autonomy to some regions of Mindanao since this is the demand of the MNLF. A kind of federal states, the regions under ARMM (Autonomous Regions for Muslim Mindanao) are governed by Filipino Muslims who established their own laws under the Philippines. But what happened to these regions after they became autonomous since the 1980s? Not much. In fact, killings and kidnap for ransoms become worst and the economy went straight down.
The culprit? Those Muslims that the Filipino Moros or MNLF have put into office are corrupt, and the so called MILF has done nothing to help elevate the situation of the Filipino Moros in Mindanao. Instead, they opted to continue a futile war until the whole of Mindanao is separated. They can't even take care of a few regions, what more of the whole Mindanao?
If there was a chance for the MILF to prove to the Philippines and the whole wide world that that they really care for the wellfare of the Filipinio Moros, then the ARMM was their chance. They can make and implement their own laws and can request for more resources from the government if they so choose. But no, they don't want the ARMM. The truth is, the MILF want a separate Islamic state.
They want a separate Islamic state because that's the very reason why they formed the MILF, a break-away group of the MNLF.
So, Mr. Mastura here was just downplaying the word "aspiration" because the underlying motive of this whole issue in Mindanao is very clear. If, Mr. Mastura is saying that the MILF or the MOA document isn't asking for an Islamic Mindanao state, then why are we on the table talking? A lot of these issues like ancestral lands have been addressed by the ARMM.
its seems that mastura is very protective to his stand about muslim in mindanao, in his words he want mindanao to be handle by muslim how about the christian there they must follwed the laws of islamic states , philippines has a good constitution lets implement it such as the bill of rigths what u can do there in mindanao is to stop corruption and help each other to maintain peace wag naman ung sabihin ng iba na sila ang hari diyan
Kayang Mabuhay ng taga MINDANAO kahit walang ano man na matatanggap mula sa national government ng Pilipinas. Ang mas magandang tanong ano ang mangyayari sa Pilipinas pag hindi na kontrolado ang MINDANO?
pwsoftwareplus 5 months ago
ang masasabi ko lng sa mga hndi nakakaintindi ng MOA-AD jan na bgla na lng satsat ng satsat ng wlang Halaga e basahin niyo muna ang MOA-AD o Memorandum of Agreement on Ancestral Domain.. Pra maintindihan niyo wag kau dadak ng dadak.. at higit sa lahat wag niyo ikumpara ang MNLF sa MILF dhil sobrang lau ng pagkakaiba!!
tidus108 2 years ago
@tidus108 kahit anong memorandum pa ang isulong dyan sa mindanao kahit buong alpabeto pa ang gamitin para itawag sa kung anuman. kung meron mga tiwaling grupo sa mindanao walng mangyayari.lalo na yung mga nagkukubli sa relihiyon para sa personal na interes.kung sakaling maipasa ang MOA-AD sa tingin nyo ba matatahimik at di manggugulo ang mga MNLF,MILF....ito ang mahirap eh ginigisa ang gobyerno sa sariling mantika bakit kailangan magkaroon ng sharing agreement?
kamao34 1 year ago
@tidus108 di ba sa ngayon san ba kumukuha ng pondo ang mindanao anong gobyerno ang nag popondo sa pangangailangan ng mindanao? diba pilipinas.alam nyo po kung anong meron tayo sa mindanao?"TERRITORIAL MENTALITY" ganito kami,di kami ganyan,ganun sa amin,di kami ganun,dito lang kami,hanggang dyan lng kayo,..kung magpapatuloy po ito kawawa ang susunod na henerasyon ng mindanao.
kamao34 1 year ago
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DONT HATE BUT UNDERSTAND- ROOTCAUSE:
1-not conquered by old spain so not pilipino
2- Aguinaldo put 2 tagalogs in mindanao n sulu seat
3-Quezon intercept petitions n lobby US to include them in Phil.MAP
4-dey give away ancestral lands w preference to settlers 24hectars allowed them, 4hectrs for natives.
5-Islam not allowed in curiculum
6-oligarch own vast tracts, logging,ranches,mining,plantations
7-natives tried diplomacy-shut down by oligarchs as unconstitutional
8-racist discrimination in jobs
b4spain 2 years ago
He mentioned "independent in a way that our lives will not be miserable." One could only think that by "miserable" he meant the current situation of the majority of Filipino Muslims in Mindanao as being poor. But if he just look around, it's not just the Filipino Muslims in Mindanao, but a good number of Filipinos are living in poverty in Luzon and the Visayas, and that number is increasing rapidly especially now that the whole world is in economic crisis.
labtec2050 3 years ago
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labtec2050 3 years ago
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He then went on to say that "You don't even respect our religion!" From this statement it was very clear to me that Mr. Mastura was brainwashed, just as other Filipino Muslims like him to believe that the Philippine government is maltreating them on a constant basis because they're Muslims. Last time I checked, the Philippines is a democratic country. If there's no such respect as he said, then why on Earth can they still practice Islam in Mindanao?
labtec2050 3 years ago
Did the Filipino Moros actually believe that by separating Mindanao from the Philippines it would end their misery? Then my friends, they need to wake up.
The real problem in Mindanao is oblivious to religion. The problme is neither Islam nor Christianity. It's CORRUPTION.
labtec2050 3 years ago
If we look back in time, the Philippine government had given autonomy to some regions of Mindanao since this is the demand of the MNLF. A kind of federal states, the regions under ARMM (Autonomous Regions for Muslim Mindanao) are governed by Filipino Muslims who established their own laws under the Philippines. But what happened to these regions after they became autonomous since the 1980s? Not much. In fact, killings and kidnap for ransoms become worst and the economy went straight down.
labtec2050 3 years ago
The culprit? Those Muslims that the Filipino Moros or MNLF have put into office are corrupt, and the so called MILF has done nothing to help elevate the situation of the Filipino Moros in Mindanao. Instead, they opted to continue a futile war until the whole of Mindanao is separated. They can't even take care of a few regions, what more of the whole Mindanao?
labtec2050 3 years ago
If there was a chance for the MILF to prove to the Philippines and the whole wide world that that they really care for the wellfare of the Filipinio Moros, then the ARMM was their chance. They can make and implement their own laws and can request for more resources from the government if they so choose. But no, they don't want the ARMM. The truth is, the MILF want a separate Islamic state.
labtec2050 3 years ago
They want a separate Islamic state because that's the very reason why they formed the MILF, a break-away group of the MNLF.
So, Mr. Mastura here was just downplaying the word "aspiration" because the underlying motive of this whole issue in Mindanao is very clear. If, Mr. Mastura is saying that the MILF or the MOA document isn't asking for an Islamic Mindanao state, then why are we on the table talking? A lot of these issues like ancestral lands have been addressed by the ARMM.
labtec2050 3 years ago
Aspiration and MOA-AD compromised reality is different
MOA-AD is not Separation even though Independence was originally aspired MOA-AD is not even whole Mindanao though the map of mindanao was in MILF logo
meaning reality of MOA-AD is different
Now, will you grab this Historic hance of Peace in our lifetime?
A best compromise that did not happen for past 110yrs?
have you read it or just the hearsay?
get MOA-AD link in my ytube acct
TheMuslimJesus 2 years ago
in MOA-AD, theres a sharing of revenue agreement of 75:25, the bigger share will stay for the mindanao economy
by that 'creative concept'- that will solve the misery of the bangsamoro...
the 25% can be used for Luzon & Bisayas plus the billion war budget can be used for the betterment of the rest of the country...
plus the Peace environment will greatly help all common people.
TheMuslimJesus 2 years ago
MOA-AD provide solution to the rootcause of conflict
75:25 sharing agreement means it is still part of the country
but the 75% should remain in mindanao for its economy & ppl
for a long time even at present the wealth of mindanao is not shared to them..
support MOA-AD a peaceful alternative to present cycle of violence
TheMuslimJesus 2 years ago
its seems that mastura is very protective to his stand about muslim in mindanao, in his words he want mindanao to be handle by muslim how about the christian there they must follwed the laws of islamic states , philippines has a good constitution lets implement it such as the bill of rigths what u can do there in mindanao is to stop corruption and help each other to maintain peace wag naman ung sabihin ng iba na sila ang hari diyan
dayaodaniel 3 years ago