9/11 - The Jane Standley / BBC WTC7 Incident Explained

[ladbroke8]

@ctcole77

i heard it was only 87% they found of the plane but then again weve yet to see 1% and we cannot trust the source. 95% is a psychologically satisfying number whuch is why debunkers use it.

Nist have shown that tower 7 fell for over 2 seconds at freefall but they never reviewed their conclusions so the memo never reached you. Then again it didnt have to.

[lawsonsmart]

100% INSIDE JOB..for sure.

[ctcole77]

TOP FIVE 911 TWOOFER LIES

1) Nanothermite (aka paint chips from PPG)

2) No flight 93 (despite 95% of plane debris recovered)

3) No flight 77 (even though over 130 witnesses saw a plane)

4) Marvin Bush WTC security (never happened)

5) Free fall speed (absolutely no building collapsed at freefall speed)

[rnsone]

@911FullContext:so who do u work for Mossad or CIA?

[snakeskin2u2]

Steel-frame buildings may only "collapse" with the steel when the foundations have failed or moved and caused the whole building to topple over.

The building cannot lose it's frame at the same time.

The BBC live transmission clearly shows that 9/11 was pre-scripted = controlled.

[snakeskin2u2]

The conspiracy theory about cave-dwellers, terrorists and hijacked non-existent planes does not hold up to examination.

[snakeskin2u2]

In order for a steel frame building to be "expected to collapse" it firstly has to be totally gutted.

However, this would not affect the steel structure to any great degree and that oart of the building would be left remaining after the collapse.

It was not - but fell vertically.

Therefore the steel structure was subjected to controlled demolition

[snakeskin2u2]

The "get out " excuse given by the BBC blaming Reuters (who had wrongly timed the release) does not wash because,

1) The WTC7 "collapse" report was shown to be around 1 hour prior to the demolition, indicating that they forgot about daylight savings time, and therefore the script was written prior to the day.

2) A steel frame building cannot "be expected" to collapse.

3) The full reasons given for the "collapse" could not possibly have been known unless pre-scripted = controlled

[snakeskin2u2]

The live camera and script not only confirms that a "surprise disaster" was merely a timed demolition, but also confirms ALL "collapses" on 9/11 were timed demolitions too.

[andrewcalvarese]

Conspiracy theories make people feel safe and also makes them feel smarter then everyone else in the room.

[maplespak]

Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth just released a 2 hour full length film called "AE911TRUTH EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE; EXPERTS SPEAK OUT". 1500+ architects and engineers WHO TELL YOU WHO THEY ARE AND THEIR DEGREES prove, using science, the official 9/11 story is impossible (WTC7). Watch it.

[waynegm777]

Cover the story really means to "COVER UP the STory" - they got the press release early - or - they forgot we were on Daylight Savings Time - Tell this peice of crap BBC Nazi NWO Bastard to shut the hell up

[WideAsleep22]

Dirty Brit bastards. They're in on it too. BBC fuck baskets

[rocket1039]

Conspiracy theorists, what would be the motive for an inside job? Genuine question.

[WideAsleep22]

@rocket1039 "Project for the New American Century" controversial 90-page report entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses: Strategies, Forces, and Resources For a New Century. Section V of Rebuilding America's Defenses, entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force", includes the sentence: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" Ruin America as we know it

[wiggledytoes]

LOL the building collapsed from office fires, ive heard it all. Then youve got people saying the fire melted the steel where it was spliced in construction. So the fires (plural) from left to right of the building were all the same temperature & weakened all beams at the exact same time, which would have to occur for the building to land in its own footprint and explain the freefall speed. Grow up & stop hiding behind your patriotism. Plus the countless of engineers & architects who dont agree.

[Cashify]

Yes, statistically speaking, an error like this could easily happen 25 minutes prior to the actual event. A normal sane person would conclude, that IRVING KRISTOL's magazine being proven to be paid for INSIDE the u.s., by an intelligence agency is the one and only time that could have happened. Corporate media is clearly not the propaganda arm of intelligence...and that magic bullet from behind blew kennedy's skull back and to the left...Ur gov't isn't run by liars and murderers...tada! see?

[defmax29]

The only two things that strike me as being very odd about 9/11 is the report of WTC7 and the way the buildings all came down.

[TheTruthstalker]

bolllocks

[bernuga]

Go and see the real video, in this pathetic video somebody cutted the first and most important part!

[WellPlacedSkidMark]

Inside Job!

[heskeylator]

agreed, there was a lot of misinformation due to the chaos of the day. bbc radio 1 was still reporting of a car bomb outside the state department around 5.45pm uk time. regardless of what some think, the british public and the bbc aren't to blame for 9/11.

[heightboosting]

HAHAHAHAHHA.. Worst cover up ever... Dont waste ur time.... 9/11 was an inside job NO FUCKING DOUBT !!! Plenty of evidence..

[LeeboProductions]

I guess its just a coincidence then that WTC 7 was the first steel structured bulding to have collapsed in the WORLD, EVER!!!! due to fire?? (at free fall speed for aprox 2.5 seconds NIST has now confirmed this in part btw) So my point is how would people expect it to collapse if one never has due to fire?? and guess what strange that it did... due to fire... yeah right!!!

[Empire895]

The fact that so many people in the towers that survived spoke about explosions and detonations going off is enough reason to wonder why on earth there was not a proper investigation into the destruction of the towers. Sad to see so many people denying the fact that the people running our nation have an agenda that includes lies, murder, & trickery. The people of America need to wake up and take this nation back from the international bankers & elite who are laughing at us for being so stupid.

[EdgemanLL2]

Until one does 2 seconds of research, and finds out that explosions are NORMAL in big-ass building fires. Then the exposions heard make 100% perfect sense.

But you never did the 2 seconds of research. you let talk radio think for you. Good idea!

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 You're right, EXPLOSIONS are normal in building that are being IMPLODED. As for building that are not, to say that it is a normal occurance just makes you look dumber than you are already acting. Please do me a favor and find someone else to troll with, you my friend haven't the slightest clue what the hell you are talking about. I think you just like to read your stupidity to justify the fact that it is pure drivel.

[TheTruthstalker]

FACT no plane hit pentagon

[behsaba]

Now that really is a wack explanation. Just accept it, your own government murdered your own people for political gain. It's neither uncommon nor surprising.

[paulodicanio]

People should not get nasty to each other, everyone just wants to know what happened.

All I want to know is:

"WHERE ARE THE PLANES"?

[EdgemanLL2]

Everyone DOES know. 19 men hijacked 4 planes and crashed them.

If youre going to slander my country with zero proof, and side with the enemy that killed 3k people, dont expect common courtesy from everyone.

[paulodicanio]

My Brother lives in the Bronx. He was there on 9/11.

I have not slandered USA.

I have no proof.

I am sure that everyone wants to know what happened for the sake of the 3k and their families. Many people from the UK died and our soldiers are STILL dying because of the war on terror.

So this is not exclusively a USA problem.

For this reason, the UK also expects the Facts and you need to respect that.

[EdgemanLL2]

1) dont care about your brother

2) yes you are

3) if you have no proof, then you KNOW there is no validity to the kook claim

4) the familes DO know what happened

5) all the more reason to stop the bullshit games--because there really ARE international implcations

6) the UK already has the facts. THEY need to respect them

[paulodicanio]

He cares for you....

Point 3)

If I knew I would be in possesion of the facts.

Point 4)

Only those that know what truly happened KNOW. Many families DO NOT accept the official report.

Point 5)Your aggression does not make it Real

Point 6)

What do we know?

[EdgemanLL2]

3) Meaning you have no facts. Therefore, why maintain a bullshit Walter Mitty fantasy that you have some?

4) Yes, those that truly know 911 was a terrorist attack. Most fams DO accept it. there are a scant few hundred family MEMBERs out of 3k families

5) If you dont like US aggression, then criticize that. But not liking US aggression doesnt turn a terorist attack into an inside job.

6) You know it was an outside job.

[paulodicanio]

Please prove this for me.

I want to believe you very badly.

I have not said it was an inside job?

I have not maintained anything other then I DO NOT KNOW.

Please understand that.

People that talk when they do not know cause the problems.

There are nearly 1,000 engineer's that dispute the official line about how buildings clapse.

If you are 100% happy with explanation good for you. But you need to expect an intelectual argument. You can't paint over it with aggression. People are going to ask?

[EdgemanLL2]

Sorry skippy. YOU claim the inside job, thats for YOU to prove. No one else has any burden to disprove you.

911 was a terrorist attack. to express ANY doubt to that is to claim that the facts of 911 have been misrepretented.

If you claim that it wasnt what we were told, YOU have 100% burden to prove that. No one has to disprove your claim.

[paulodicanio]

My claim? Er...I dunno how to put it any clearer. I DO NOT KNOW ANY FACTS. I have NOT claimed inside job. You must be having so many of these chats that you have lost orientation. Like I said....Many people are casting doubt. Not me. I am pointing out to you that 1000 engineers are disputing the official line. That makes a know nothing like me sit up and try to become a know something. People are going to ask questions so deal with it. Your argument has to be better then that. Watch loose change

[EdgemanLL2]

"I DO NOT KNOW ANY FACTS."

Then youre a moron. If after 8 years you dont know ANYTHING about this, thats pathetic.

and yes, you HAVE claimed an inside job, by referring people to watch Loose Change, or the 1000 "engineers".

So, you can stuff the lie that youre not claiming an IJ. Because you are.

Yet, you do so without any facts (your admission) and you have no proof at all to support your claim.

LOLOLOL. Yikes woman!

[paulodicanio]

There's only one moron here.

You actually sound retarded.

[EdgemanLL2]

Good one! Very compelling. LOLOLOLOL.

Do you kooks ever wonder why no one takes you seriously? Really, Ever?

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 Anyone with half a brain that has actually taken the time to review and research the fact of that day comes to the conclusion that there were people within our own government who were involved in 9/11. If it were not for the ladies from NJ who fought for an investigation there would not have been one. And even when the White House was pressed to investigate, who did they try to put in charge of it? none other than Henry Kissinger. Do some research & stop being a soap box ignoramus

[EdgemanLL2]

@EmpLaden. How could anyone with half a brain conclude such, since there is ZERO evidence to support it. Stop being a fuxing moron who professes "I do reel ree-surch kuz I sawr et on da innernet! Dats bettur den an akshual ejewkayshin!" while jamming your finger up your nose.

REAL research isnt "I heard it on talk radio" moron. Anyone really HAS done the REAL research pisses themselves silly laughing at you low-70's IQ morons.

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 haha. If WTC7 and the flight over PA getting shot down have not made you the least interested in pulling your head out of your ass I can't help you my friend. You are one of those typical web trolls who likes to bully people so you can help yourself believe you are doing a service to the men and woman that were murdered on Sept 11th. I suggest you delve into the history of our nation and the people who have hijacked our nation for their greedy benefit. Can you deny this fact? haha

[EdgemanLL2]

@EmpLaden. Just because youre too stupid to understand what happened isnt proof it didnt happen. I suggest you delve into a class in logic. Regardless our past, we are still 100% capable of being attacked by terrorists. Douche.

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 There is proof, but self righteous people like you tend to have problems looking past the blinders you have installed on the side of your head. For the record, NO Steel buildings have EVER collapsed in the history of steel structures from fire.  EVER. That is of course until 9/11 when so many oddities occured. Like the total disappearance of our Air Force and the fact that so many protocols were ignored during the attack on our nation. So stop being a self righteous dickhead.

[Empire895]

@Empire895 Your government LIED TO YOU. Until you realize that fact anything I say will go right over your pea brained head. 

[EdgemanLL2]

@Achmed895. The fact that govt lies to you, does not somehow, magically make it impossible for it to be attacked by terrorists. Shitforbrains. The kook movement lies to you, to get you to empty your wallets for moneybombs, downloads, and overpriced DVDs and hoodies. Until you realize that fact, youre a moron.

[Empire895]

@Edgema (like an enema for the brain) I never said that terrorists were not involved in 9/11. Get your rebuttle straight and don't waste my time with your insults, rather let's here some facts debated, not retarded fact like all building that collapse have explosions because quite frankly, that argument makes it very clear how much of an idiot you really are. haha But I can honestly say that you are quite humerous because u actually believe your own bullsit. Good Job Brownie....

[EdgemanLL2]

@Empussy. Correct. Because you pussies never SAY anything. Because you dont actually have any facts. All you do is whine "Im too stupid to understand B7, so Im gonna make something up to explain it!"

Thats why no one takes you kooks seriously. all you do is point fingers at things youre too stupid to understand, then stupidly pretend its proof of something. All the while too cowardly to actually MAKE A STATEMENT, SUPPORTED WITH PROOF of what actually happened.

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 Are you talking to yourself? lmao!

[EdgemanLL2]

@Empussy <--cant respond. So he dodges, LMAO!!!!!

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 can't resond to what? re-read your posts idiot. All you do is trash mouth people with a verbal assault of nothingness. You claim that all building that collapse have explosions going off and people are suppose to take YOU seriously? REALLY? What trailer park do you live in so I can come laugh in your face? FACT - There was MOLTEN steel at the base of all 3 towers. Next thing you'll tell me is that steel turns molten when it collapses... right? idiot.

[EdgemanLL2]

@Empussy895 " can't resond to what?"

Moron, It was clear and unambiguous. The designer of the building refutes your bullshit. Thats what!

[EdgemanLL2]

@Achmed. No steel building has ever been slammed into by a speeding 767 before. So whats the point?

No steel building (in the case of B7) was built with that same design, cantalevered over a con-ed substation, on a substandard foundation, had a WTC tower dropped on it, then burned with ZERO FFer effort (not even sprinklers) and had 7 diesel fuel tanks unnaturally augmenting the fires and survivied before either.

So whats the point? =]

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 The point is the buildings were designed to be hit by planes, one of the buildings designers spoke about how the buildings could sustain MULTIPLE plane strikes. Besides the fact the WTC7 was not hit by a plane yet it fell just liekt he towers....free fall speed with no resistance by the floors below it that were not comprimised. Listen, unless you are going to post a valid argument back and not just some fallacy that you like to believe I'd look forward to debating the facts with u

[EdgemanLL2]

@Achmed895. Thus exposing you as the UNRESEARCHED moron than you are. The designer is, and was, 100% clear and unambiguous. The buildings were designed for ONE hit. SLOW speed, LOW fuel. And a plane smaller than a 767. And since speeds is a squared value to force, 3x the speed (seen on 911) is 9x the force. The forces experienced on 911 were an order of magnatiude greater than planned for. As Les robertson confirms it collapsed exactly as it should and "there'd be no stopping it."

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 YouTube search for Frank A. DeMartini and watch and learn dipshit.

[EdgemanLL2]

@MORON895, Frank demartini was NOT the designer. and was 49 when he died on 911. meaning, shitforbrains, he was about 15 when the buildings were first being designed.

So you should search youtube for "fuxing increadibly gullible moroninc imbicles who believe any internet rumor; who are too fuxing lazy and stupid to research things for themselves (but like to pretend they actually did research)"

Youll see your picture, watch THAT and learn.

Moron.

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 yawn. you're inability to actually debate the facts I am presenting you with coupled with your childish verbal putdowns are actually making you look more like a dick than I could portray you as... good job! thanks!

the only moron here is anyone who believes the official story.

lol

[EdgemanLL2]

@Empussy895. OK, so your best argument is "a 15 year old designed the towers?" LMAO.

Sorry retard, despite your lies, the designer of the towers (the real one, not th 15 year old you pretend did it) refutes you. Debunked!

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 LOL - you are hopeless.

[EdgemanLL2]

@Empussy895. LOLOL. No no, really. Tell us again how Frank designed the towers when he was 15. Then call others hopeless.

Dont you feel like a fuxing retard, after claiming you "did all the research" and it turns out youre actually an uninformed moron, and I know way more than you?

Thats gotta suck. it really does. =]

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 lmao - even funnier than your last comment. The funniest thing is you're such a loser, you don't even see how much of an idiot you are making YOURSELF look like. Keep going, this is funny.

[EdgemanLL2]

@Empussy895 Yep. Tell me a 15 year old designed the towers. Call others an idiot.

And they wonder why no one takes them seriously? LMAOOOOO!!!!!!

[Empire895]

@EdgemanLL2 you STILL don't get it. you're ASS-umptions make you look like a fool. Go back to work. BTW - never said he was the designer. You assumed. But when the construction manager of the WTC says that the towers were designed to sustain multiple hits I kinda tend to believe HIM rather than some TROLL on the internet. that would be YOU. But please keep the insults coming, it's the only thing you are good at....

[EdgemanLL2]

@Empussy895. LOLOL. So you claimed it was designed for mutiple hits, quote Demartini as your proof, But you werent using him as proof of the desginer? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

At least you FINALLY did some research to find out who he was.

BTW idiot, les robertson IS the designer, and TO THIS DAY says the collapses happened exactly as they should. and "thered be no stopping it"

Ill believe him over a moron on YT any day. =]

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 You stupid fuck I see the goons are still paying you and your sheeple mentality is still shining. I see you still like calling people Achmed and that you couldn't don't give a fuck about what happened just as long as the pay cheque still comes. Good luck EdgemanLoserLoser.

[EdgemanLL2]

@3133123 Blah blah blah blah. Edge is right. Call him names.

Edge wins.

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 It doesn't look like you have won much to me FUCK STAIN.

Your country is fucked. You are obviously one of the 10% of people who cant get a job. You have no freedom thanks to your hero George W. your education system is fucked and your houses are worth $5.00 Your country is built on GREED and your government is prepared to kill for the almighty dollar. When all that is left is worthless paper will you be able to eat it. So OK you win FUCK STAIN you can have it all.

[EdgemanLL2]

@3133123 Edge wins again! More crying!

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 hahaha if you think so.

Talking about yourself in the 3rd person is fucking stupid by the way.

[EdgemanLL2]

@3133123 Still more crying. hahahaha. Wins huge!

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 What no 3rd person talk this time.

[EdgemanLL2]

@Achmed. <--begs for my attention. Edge owns him. =]

[LeeboProductions]

@EdgemanLL2 and I quote you.... "Everyone DOES know. 19 men hijacked 4 planes and crashed them."....... WRONG!!!!!!!!!! I knew as I read on you would say something I could prove COMPLETELY WRONG!!!! There were NOT 19 Hijackers!!!! 5 of them have been proven to be alive and well!!! you have been telling everyone to do some research... I surgest you take your own advise my ignorant friend!!!

[3133123]

@LeeboProductions All this wanker edge will do now is call you more names and proclaim the he win's. He will start typing in the 3rd person and never answer a question again. cause you have found him out and he hates that.

[LeeboProductions]

@3133123 I think you may be right my friend... he is a wanker.

[EdgemanLL2]

@3133123 Awe. Had to try to Leeebo about me.

I love it when kooks have to console each others, over the ass beating I gave them. =]

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 What arse beating would you be talking about FUCK STAIN. Please explain!!!

[EdgemanLL2]

@Moron. The one youre whining about, to leebo?

Shit, youre a moron. LOLOL

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 Oh I see too much of a lazy cunt to add an appostrophe to YOU'RE

hahahahahahahaha.

Again what arse beating are you talking about?????

[EdgemanLL2]

@Achmed.

Your mom says hi, btw.=]

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 Oh now you pull the mum shit on me hahahahahaha

You must really be getting desperate.

Hahahahahahahaha

[EdgemanLL2]

@Monkeyboy

Actually, she just says "mmmfff mmmmfff mmmmfff.' Im just kinda guessing that its a "Hi."

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 really good for you FUCK STAIN it gives my Dad a break

[EdgemanLL2]

@Monkeyboy. The mailman is your real daddy.

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 How the fuck did you know that.

[EdgemanLL2]

@Monkeyboy. Cuz everyone knows your mom. Either the mailman, or the Reggae band down the street.

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 Oh FUCK STAIN tries to get personnal but it backfires. Why would there be a reggae band down the street???

[EdgemanLL2]

@Monkeyboy <--wow. I was just kidding about the Reggae band down the street. Looks like you think its true though.

youll have to ask your mom why she pulled a train on a raggae band. I cant speak for her,

[3133123]

@EdgemanLL2 You really are a FUCK STAIN oh wait a fuck stain has more intelligence than you. bah bah sheep boy. Ewe fucking retard.

[web77s]

Just sloppy reporting, here and there. You can watch the BBC clips as the second tower falls and they blurt out - BOMB! - then the TOP HALF! In fact, at one point, the BBC people are looking at the second tower collapsing and apparently not noticing what's happening in ANY WAY! Oblivious! Someone has to tell them what they just saw. Then comes Bomb! and Top half only! They couldn't conceive that the building would pancake down and be completely destroyed.

[mcnowski]

the problem is, that WTC 7 didnt fall the way a building should due to fire, or falling 'over A-symetrically due to gravity on its own. Picture the steel beams running upwards some 200 meters, they would have, or atleast most of the stayed in tact as the building fell 'over. The beams came straight down with NO resisitance, all of them???? This cant happen can it?

[911FullContext]

They weren't single beams, but multiple beams spliced together. Photos show that they failed at the splices.

[billyluxury]

not true, any welder will tell you that the point of contact or "splice" as you call it, is just as strong or in most cases STRONGER then the beam itself. I just learned this from a professional welder. maybe you could post link to pics you talk of, I would like to show them.

[911FullContext]

Here's a pic:

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[911FullContext]

A space somehow made it's way in before the "b" in "building". Make sure to remove that, or the link won't work.

[w0bbl3r]

then how did chief nigro know to give the order to PULL (pull, as in "pull the rescue operation") the FD out of WTC 7?

dont say he was TOLD to give the order, because he was the CHIEF on the ground, and he admitted it was HIM that gave the order. FDNY firefighters are on camera, half hour before collapse, saying "that building is coming down, you have to get back", and "see it leaning like that, there is no way to stop it, that building is coming down soon".

explain that, you truther moron

[venuecam]

If the building was leaning so much why did it bow dead centre then fall in its own footprint in EVERY video shown of it's collapse? Cos it was a controlled demolition. Every observer with any knowledge on the matter described it as so.

[w0bbl3r]

easy, it DIDNT

[ekotts]

Great work man. Keep doing what your doing, this is important work. Keep telling both sides, this is the only investigation that matters.

[911FullContext]

Thanks, but I'm trying to focus more on proper context than both sides. I believe that in the right context, there only is one side.