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  • Never again! 

  • how do you create those things next to the subscribe button? i have been dying to know for ages!

  • i live 10 minutes away from Auswitz camp in Poland, but i have never went or seen it.

  • @FTattack GO SEE IT THIS WEEKEND! Living 10 minutes from Oswiecim and not going to Auschwitz is like living in New York all your life and never going to the Statue of Liberty.

  • @janellek21 thats so wierd cus i live in new york for 14 years and ive never been to the statue of libery.. my grandparents live 10 minutes away from oswiecim i go to them every summer but never went to oswiecim, and i live 15 minutes from the statue of liberty and never went to it. how wierd is that connection u made

  • The Future may always Denied something like these magnitude ever happened. it is a Lost Information or Education gap. I give a lot of credit to people that take the camera and pictures into the camp to record it. the NAZI nearly deny it ever happen.

  • This, what you have seen is merely a large-scale, justified and righteous process of liquidating vermin, pest - nothing more...

  • @Payback1991 Are you for real?

  • @alanheath It does. Check Wikil.

  • @alanheath In 1939, USSR annexed eastern parts (known as Kresy to the Polish) of 2nd Polish Republic. During 1939-1941 1.45 million people inhabiting the region were deported, 63.1% Poles, 7.4% Jews. Previously it was believed ~1,000,000 Poles died at the hands of USSR. Recently Polish historians, based mostly on queries in USSR archives, estimate deaths ~ 350,000 people deported in 1939-1945. From the newly conquered Eastern Poland 1.5 million people were deported.

    From Wiki

  • @P1B1U1H1 The people who were deported first came from the business classes and refugees and were largely city dwellers. Refugees came from Nazi occupied areas. For example from Białystok, although Jews were a minority they made up two thirds of those deported to the interior of the USSR. Jews suffered disproportionately from deportations to the interior of the USSR although as it turned out this was later the main reason for the survival of Polish Jews during WW2.

  • @alanheath That would seem reasonable. The main point is that there were simply not that many deaths from deportation from Poland, only ~350,000. People died much younger then than they do now. Also, you have to consider what might have happened were they not deported.

  • @alanheath In 1939, USSR annexed eastern parts (known as Kresy to the Polish) of 2nd Polish Republic. During 1939-1941 1.45 million people inhabiting the region were deported, 63.1% Poles, 7.4% Jews. Previously it was believed ~1,000,000 Poles died at the hands of USSR. Recently Polish historians, based mostly on queries in USSR archives, estimate deaths ~ 350,000 people deported in 1939-1945. From the newly conquered Eastern Poland 1.5 million people were deported.

    From Wiki

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  • Majdanek was also captured intact. The reason for Auschwitz being known I think is more because of the amount of survivors and witnesses. Camps such as Chelmno nad Nerem, Sobibór, Treblinka and Bełżec had very few survivors and the witnesses were in Poland where no-one bothered to talk to them until recently.

  • @fungusamogus Yes I can show you the bones. I have published a film on the archaeology at Chełmno nad Nerem. It is on my channel. You can see for yourself.

  • My great great grandfather died at auschwitz

  • The previous prisoner who gives a commentary of his arrival mentions that they were shaved their heads and their genitals.Who was doing the genital shaving?Would you let someone near your junk with a cut throat razor of the type used in that period?

  • i just can not describe it. i recently went to a came outside of berlin and all i can say is....nothing. I cant describe it. when i walked in me and my classmates immediatly became cold and no one talked for 3 hours.We all just kinda stood there and looked. we cant imagin what happened and we dont want to. NEVER FORGET

  • Thats the result of the influence of German snitchers undermining other countries, spreading lies about Germanys past and present. Since 1999 I had been openly tortured in several countries by German officials to force me back to Germany. With the knowledge and often against the declared will of the local authorities. But the German NAZI state puts a lot of pressure on other states to gain contacts and influence abroad. Check out. My brother Markus Bott was assassinated because of our homepage.

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  • A nation didn't start hating a race of people over night; there was a propaganda machine that spread an indoctrination of hate. Now today I see similar forces at work in our media and it makes me afraid.

  • What a horrible thing the Nazis did.

    It is still hard to believe.

    That kind of evil is worse than Satan himself.

    The souls who were killed are at peace now.

    George Vreeland Hill

  • My name is Dane Beem. I am a 13 year old Jewish American. My grandfathers cousins died at this camp. There names are Eva Beem and Abraham Beem.  I am in tears, because I look at pictures of them, I look into there faces. They were 7 when they died, they were such cute kids. God be with you all.

    Never Again

    Never Forget

    ~Shalom

  • @Airsoftattack123  god bless you.

  • @logcabinmoose Thank you. Abraham was 7, and Eva was 9 i think. Moses and God be with you my friend. May the victims of this tragedy rest in piece. May they join God and Moses and David in the world to come. Amen

  • @Airsoftattack123 well TECHNICALLY moses has to wait outside the gates for all of eternity soo....

  • the real monsters were the Soviet jews such as Lazar Kaganovich, Genrikh Yagoda and Salomon Morel who exterminated untold millions during the 1930s and 1940s. There was no systematic extermination at the network of dissident camps built by the Germans.

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    "The only thing we know about Hitler is that he killed six million Jews who never existed in gas chambers which nobody ever saw." - jewish professor Roger Dommergue

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  • @DudeAbidesNoMore once again it is impossible for a communist to be a Jew if you have ever read a book by one yu would undestand, trust me I do know about varius crimes commited by communsit regimes I know people who were saw these crimes but for crying out loud if you have ever read the inteligence reports by the nazis or the nazis predictins yu wuld know what happened

  • @Airsoftattack123 Yes eva was cute and full of joy. I did a story on her. I felt so bad about her dieing. She got a break though she was never tortured like the others were.

  • @Airsoftattack123 Bless your heart sweetie. I'm 15, American. I don't have a religion quite yet, but I know your grandfather's cousins are in a better place, somewhere, given the childhood that was taken away from them. I know all of these wonderful men, women, and children did not die for no reason...They died for equality. <33 Always remember that.

  • @EmmyGurl523 Thank you very much! Like many Jews I don't really pay much attention to what happens after death. But I to believe they are in a wonderful place, somewhere with God.

  • @Airsoftattack123 Amen, and Amen, Brother ! We will never forget!

  • @Airsoftattack123 Bless you, my Grandfather survived these camps just . May God bless Eva Beem and Abraham Beem as they reside in heaven God be with you too.

    Never Again!!

    Never Forget!!

  • @100percentbabeLOL Your grandfather is a soldier! My grandparents on my moms side were from the Czech Republic and Serbia, but they got out of there before they started deporting Jews. They went to Nazareth Israel, and stayed there. I was born in Nazareth and then game to Chicago when I was real young.

    God bless you

    Our relatives wait for us in the world to come

  • @Airsoftattack123 Yes he was an sadly has passed on now, I wish you an your family all the best an peace, May God Bless you an your family in this an the World to Come.

  • @100percentbabeLOL May he rest is piece. He waits for us. Same to you, God protect you and your friends and family.

    Shalom!

    ~Amir or Dane, Amir is my Hebrew name.

  • @Airsoftattack123 You are a very smart child.

  • @P1B1U1H1 regards!

  • @Airsoftattack123 Shalom - I visited Auschwitz last year & it was very moving - God rest the souls of all those who perished there

  • @Airsoftattack123 Yevarekh Otkha Ha-Shem.  Shalom.

  • No ethnic or religious group that were victims of the holocaust is more important than any other. RIP

  • Someone knows about the Jew Moshe Peer? a "Holo"-Survivor - he survived gasing with Zyklon B 6x times, he said !

  • very touching, thank u 4 sharing. GOD BLESS THE VICTIMS AND THE SURVIVORS OF THE SHOAH.....................MAYY U LIVE IN ETERNAL HAPPINESS AND PEACE, WHILE THE ONES WHO HURT U LIVE IN ETERNAL HELL!!!! PEACE TO ISREAL. ALLIE, BOSTON, USA

  • There was a Jewish woman doing laundry in my LA apartment complex. I noticed that she had a long string of numbers tattooed on her wrist. I asked her about it and she said she had been interned at Auschwitz in her girlhood. Her family were murdered there.

  • @marvy1118 My grandparents' neighbor in Chicago was a holocaust survivor. When I was a little girl I asked her why she wrote on her arm. She told me monsters wrote on her arm and that it can't wash off. A lot of the children of post WW II immigrants to Chicago lived in my mother's neighborhood. None of them had grandparents.

  • the youngest survivor of Auschwitz was a girl named Bronia

  • Strength and honour. God bless those effected by the atrocities of the Holocaust and present genocidal conflicts. The lord will always be by their side.

  • We are asked to take as truth the account of the Soviets who arrived at Auschwitz first.

    The Soviets killed, imprisoned, and forced into slavery 10 times the numbers they say the Nazis did and we are asked to believe them, and even put people in jail when they find evidence of Soviet lies. This is also a crime.

    Nobody is saying Jews of Europe were not treated horrendously, most just don't accept the WHOLE account given us from people who had their own agenda, it denies the pain of non-Jews.

  • Never more nazism and stalinism ! Pol Pot. Pinochet and many other criminals !

  • These Holocaust deniers must know that all the thinking people of the world look at you guys as utterly stupid. It's really sad.

    I hope you have a nightmare where you're a prisoner in a Concentration camp and have to watch your wife & children wrenched from you to never see them again. When you wake up, you'll be thankful it was just a dream but at least you'll have the tiniest inkling of what it must have been like for all those poor souls.

  • @historicalvid

    These Holocaust deniers "

    They are not deniers but simply question outlandish stories of human soaps, lampshades gas chambers and the numbers you claim. And if they're so stupid, why are they beaten, killed and intimidated by certain groups to silence them. What happened to free speech?

  • @historicalvid

    What about the people who made this video?

    Why don't they tell us about IG Farben & Rockefeller?

    Why don't they tell us about Prescott Bush & Adolf Hitler?

    No, no, no they just tell us how many Jews died.

  • why did this have to happen? the jews have done nothing NOTHING it doesnt add up.

  • @TheDrjman1 fuck the jews, more russian POW's were killed then jews but you don't hear there voice do you. They all need to go to Israel and shut the fuck up, the Jewish people are too loud. there are more people in Mexico city then the whole jewish race/religion, yet we don't see them all over our news and in our politics. Hitler had it wrong, no one deserves to die, EVER, but at first he just wanted them to leave, which is a good idea, go back to your country and defend yourselves.

  • @TheDrjman1 And you have to wonder why the jews have been fucked with so much in history. Stuff happens for a reason, if i go to a bar and start yelling out and breaking beer bottles on the ground...IM GOING TO GET KICKED OUT. If you annoy enough people, you are going to be disliked. Earth does not need to change the way it thinks for 15 million people...the 15 million people need to change the way they conduct themselves, or everyone will want to kick you out.  Coexist or GTFO.

  • @fungusamogus Bet you blame the Jews for the death of the Dinosaurs, too! The Cancer is the hatred and bigotry of those like you!

  • @fungusamogus You sound like a broken record. Even if you were showed the bones, and everything else to prove the Holocaust. You would still deny it. How many nazis bubblegum cards do you have now. Also, when is the next Neo-nazis bake sell? You don't want to miss it!

  • @jrwel14 I reckon Holocaust deniers are so rigid they will deny the Holocaust if they were gassed at Auschwitz.

  • @Goodiesfanful They would also call Hitler a liar if he admited to the final solution.

  • @jrwel14 Or a loony - and they would be right for once.

  • @jrwel14 He did admit it - quite clearly!

  • @jrwel14 In fact, they do that about the diaries of Hoess.

  • @fungusamogus Will add that you are truly a canceramongus! Your hate and bigotry is truly a sickness for the world.

  • @fungusamogus Will answer this one. No, the picture of the german soldier hanging the man and woman is about murder. Of, people executing those who are what the Nazis felt were subhumans. OF, going into a town, and killing everyone who Hitler wanted dead. The Jews, Jehovah Witnesses, the disabled, feebled minded, and everyone else that the Nazis felt were not as good as them. But, by their own actions, the Nazis showed that they were the subhumans! You are truly a "Fungusamongus".

  • @fungusamogus Will add that the Einsatzgruppen killing squads did have jews as the victims. You were right about that!. Hope the Deniers don't see your comment. You will lose your Denier badge and no more collecting Nazi bubble gum cards!

  • @fungusamogus My last comment to you. For, it is ridiculous to have a disscusion with a brick wall. Is, that you will NEVER ACCEPT ANY PROOF THAT SHOWS YOUR WRONG! I know it, you know it. The whole world knows it. Also noticed that you made many comments so yours would be the only ones that on on the first page.You people are all alike. Any preceived notion that you have any intelligence. Goes right out the door when you first speak.

  • @fungusamogus Click on Heinrich Himmler Speech to the right. Know you will say anything to deny it. "It's Tom Cruise's voice" Just want people to see how those like you will deny anything.

  • @fungusamogus As I said, you want 6 million bones. You people have such a perfect system! A person could deny anything using your logic. Want to deny the Earth is round? Then, just state that all photos taken in space showing the curvature of the Earth is a fake.And the astronaunts in space seeing that curvature-optical illusion! The photos I mentioned were of the Einsaztgruppen killing squads. I know that all wars have a lot of deaths. But, you people try to deny those commited by the nazis!

  • @fungusamogus The only ones who are telling the lies are you and others of your ilk. Your username is as you state, a fungus. No matter what proof we did show, you would just deny it anyway. Show a picture of a German soldier aiming at the back of a woman holding a child, DENY! A picture of a German hanging a woman and a man, DENY! Photo of bodies in a pit, DENY! Notes in Himmler's handwriting about executing Jews, DENY! You and others have a closed mind, so it's like talking to a brick wall!

  • @jrwel14 Perhaps the enormity of it is too overwhelming for their tiny brains!

  • @jrwel14 The rule is: Tell a lie and stick to it. And indeed, its like talking to a brick wall. You can not discuss with any German or a snitcher "working" for the Germans without himself being German.

  • @jrwel14 Holocaust deniers can't even keep their lies straight. By turns they would have us believe that the Holocaust never happened; Auschwitz et al were just concentration camps; Auschwitz was a health resort for Jews (see the video response below); even that Hitler was not anti-semitic - and all in the face of other anti-semitists who applaud the Holocaust and say Hitler didn't kill enough Jews!

  • @Goodiesfanful Agree. Have had comments from some who said that the photos of the Einsaztgruppe killing people wearing the Star of David were not Jews, but, Communists!

  • @jrwel14 Yeah, the lengths Holocaust deniers can go to are so ridiculous they're laughable. If you want more laughs, there's Seadweller's video response to Encountering Auschwitz and my comments on it.

  • @jrwel14 Holocaust deniers will never give up trying to convince us that the Holocaust is a lie. Of course they will never succeed because they make it obvious they hate Jews for some reason or other. If I see a respectable, objective, and independent source that discredits the Holocaust, I will be very surprised!

  • @Goodiesfanful The only reason for holocaust denial is racism. Show me a denier liar who is not a racist!

  • @alanheath Show me one too! If I meet a Holocaust denier who hasn't got an axe to grind with Jews, I will be very surprised!

  • @fungusamogus A hundred of Jews died? Have never seen such closed minded people until I learned more about the Deniers and Revisionists! We know you and others make those statements because you hate jews PERIOD. I,m a Lutheran. so don't start calling me jewish. Also why do jew haters call Jews Capitalists AND communists. It's like calling someone a skinny fat person. You people are right about Germany not having any death camps. THE NAZIS PUT THEM ALL IN POLAND!

  • Germans must be proud :)) um pah pah!

    a whole nation blinded by murderers. with very few exceptions.

  • The record for the most killings in one day was not a Auschwitz but at Madanek. During operation Erntefest the Nazi's shot 18,000 people in one day. Madanek was captured by the Soviet Army before Auschwitz as it was further west. It was used for propoganda by the Soviets, and turned into a museum before the war was even over. The Nazi's didn't want this to happen at the larger Auschwitz, and the evidence of what they did to try to hide it is still there to this day.

  • @clintonearlwalker they should have shot them all

  • @clintonearlwalker In Majdanek, over 2 million persons were killed or murdered in the camouflaged windowed gas chamber.

  • @IustitiaPax "Although conceived as a forced labor camp and not as an extermination camp, over 79,000 people[1] died there (59,000 of them Polish Jews) during the 34 months of its operation."--from the Wikipedia page on Majdanek. The camp was located just outside Lublin (pronounced loob-leen) Poland.

  • @clintonearlwalker Thanks for correcting this. It's impt to find accurate sources. yours Paul

  • @paolosilv It's been my experience, especially on this subject, to find as many sources as possible. Different sources may have vastly different info. Many people are obsessed with the numbers of dead here or there. No one knows for certain in many cases. There are some cases though where very precise documents still exist, showing name, date, cause of death, birthplace, etc. It's very grim and I find it amazing in it's horrific nature. C.Walker

  • @clintonearlwalker Yes, you're right, I hope you will stop by my site. Paolo

  • auschwitz and the holocaust are a fact.

    yes, people are this evil and stupid.

  • @TurdTemple

    Yes, the Exodus story is made up, just like the rest of the bible for that matter.

    But unlike the Exodus story, there is massive amounts of evidence for the Holocaust.

    The fact that you are willfully ignorant of the evidence doesn't make it go away.

  • Exodus is made up ? No. It really happened! The concentration camps - they really happened. The Versaiiles Treaty - it really happened. Maybe if the Versaiiles Treaty had not been so harsh. If the Americans had come in to thne First War earlier. And, so forth. Hitler might not have done so much damage. Sixty-five years ago the war ended. Many Germans were killed and many of the allies were killed also. All the holocaust museums in the world cannot reverse history. But the Exxodus did happen.

  • the first monotheist was the prophet Zoroaster who espoused that the world is one continual battle between truth and lies in the war between good and evil. Humanity could still yet defeat jewish supremacism thru mass conversion to Zoroastrianism which would create widespread devotion to the truth. The WW2 "holocaust" stories clearly show how the jews maintain their Satanic rule thru abusive propaganda lies that are designed to subjugate the truth and keep the masses brainwashed.

  • @OccupierLiars : Jewish supremacism arises today through multiculturalism. A man called Edward Shils took Nazism from the 1930s Germany to the University of Chicago and returned with ´it´ inverted as multiculturalism to the London School of Economics where he taught as a political science. Carefully marketed as about ´tolerance´, it is nothing of the sort. The rather it is to confuse society at large with ´race´ while the master race - the Jews and the neo-liberals dominate Western society.

  • @OccupierLiars Do you also deny that 3,000,000 Catholic Poles were gassed?

  • @ TurdTemple: "The jews are in the business of tricking all non-jews."

    Were you dropped as a baby? Come on now... You honestly believe a WHOLE entire race is in a "business" of trickery? That's completely unrealistic.

  • @marker227 shitloads of people think that. Its scary when they think they have a group of people supporting them, the amount of people who try to justify their hatred of jews (whether it be for jews not believing Jesus was the mesiah or hatred of the jewish stereotypes) becomes appalling. I converted to judaism and three people messaged me saying I was a traitor and should be gang-raped. Ive never been threatened like that in my life till then. Its fucking insane.

  • The allies did not bomb the concentration camps. If they had there would have been no camps to liberate! They bombed the factories near Auschwitz, but not the camp itself. Any bombs that fell there were just part of their mission.

  • 2005 was when i first saw the camp

  • to all the deniers of this.think.

  • The Grand Mufti of Palestine was a very influential Muslim leader before and after WW2. At the time, almost equivilent to the Pope for Catholics. The Grand Mufti was one of Hitler's strongest allies and actively recruited Arabs and Muslims across the world for the S.S. The Mufti was referred to as the "Fuhrer of the Arab World" by Hitler himself." Muslims supported Hitler.

  • @puseye Information about the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem can be found by searching that term at the USHMM website. Some Muslims supported Hitler, while others did not and in fact acted to save Jews. Search for Robert Satloff's interview about Arabs who helped save Jews also through the USHMM website.

  • @ushmm Many videos of al Husseini on YouTube. As a Turkish soldier during WW1 he participated in the genocide of a million Armenian Christians. It is thought that using trains was his "contribution" the the German SS (he held rank of general in the Waffen SS). The Muslims were German allies in both world wars. Some of the worst atrocities were committed by the Ustasha in the Balkans where the Mufti raised the notorious "Handjar Divisions". The Ustasha was Muslims and Croatian Catholics Nazi's.

  • @puseye Mufty sounds like good guy.

    However its little known that the heebs in palestine ALSO liked hitler and in fact begged him for weapons so they cd murder British officers. Hitler mostly refused cuz he knew it wd be cowardly and wrong to arm the yids

  • @puseye therefore muslims shouldnt be trusted ...

  • @Electrode22 In the year since

    Sinse Obama's pledge for a "new beginning" with the Islamic world, Muslims in America have, 1) Plotted to set off a car bomb in Illinois, 2) Plotted to blow up a skyscraper in Dallas, 3) Attempted to detonate an airplane over Detroit, 4) Murdered an army recruiter in Arkansas, 5) Planted a

    car bomb in Times Square, and 6) Massacred thirteen people in Texas.

    What do you think?

  • @puseye see youve proven my point ... im british and weve had quite a few incidents involving muslims (al quaeda ...) but obviously not much as the US cos their mainly the center of the muslims intentions ...

  • @puseye this sounds like anti-muslim propoganda. nice source references uneducated idiot. You have no evidence to support your claim other than wild accusations and baseless claims. I'm not religious but your just breeding hatred in the world you ignorant fuck.

  • You're all missing the true relevancy of the beast. The numbers surrounding how the Jews, and other unfits were disposed of is irrelevant. The Relevancy is that they were killed in general. Starved, overworked, experimented on, you name it. The relevancy of the beast was extermination.

  • they changed the number once they realised people were asking too many questions about numbers. A list of everyone's name who died would be good to prove their figures.

  • scmthrasher

    1,1 million (about 900.000 jews) is too high number. One veteran reporter of Der Spiegel magazine calculated that real number is about 500.000 or less, because transport capasity. Then what comes gas chambers for people. I belive that there were gas chambers only for clothes desinfection. Huge masesses of people died because diseases, horrible conditions, lack of food and medicines. Hitler´s jew policy was senseless and a serious human right violation, a crime against humanity.

  • @Seadweller451E Yeah, how about telling that to the millions that died. It's all part of this big Jewish agenda, eh? The piles of dead bodies left behind, I bet that's all fake too? Ignorant asshole, go to Germany and say that shit, see how they treat you.

  • @babyhilts typhus or starvation most likely killed those people. The bodies were scattered all over the camp, meaning the Germans left the prisoners in the camp alone when they fled. Do you think the Germans would 'gas' them and then scatter the bodies over the entire camp?

  • I meant the bodies of those prisoners who died as a direct cause of being held at Auschwitz and other camps. My comment was just directed towards Seadweller who is denying the holocaust ever happened. Whether prisoners died from starvation or typhus at the time of imprisonment is still the fault of the Nazis, as they obviously weren't given enough food and the living conditions were deplorable.

  • Very true and I agree with you to an extent, but you also have to take into consideration that the allied bombing towards the end of the war was very extreme. Food would have been rationed and the water supply had been bombed so many of the inmates were drinking contamined water (typhus). The allies were aware of what the bombing had done, but used those 'piles of bodies' for propaganda. Yes many would have been starved deliberately and shot. I think it's the 6 mill figure that people question?

  • yeah, okay...

  • condensed, you have to read all sources, not these wich opinion you like.

  • Alls you gotta do is open your mind, I can see when we have reached a lost cause, RIP dude, you're gonna need all the help you can get....

  • God rest there souls, for they all rest. They all rest until the day the Lord comes again in the clouds to bring us home.

  • The question is, what's the matter with you? You better re-think your thoughts before the ways of this world sucks you in.

  • .......right...

  • crazy fool

  • You have a good point.

  • i agree

  • @dnreyn7 god bless!

  • "Buchenwald was not technically an extermination camp"? Who says so? I say the 57,000 the were exterminated, were exterminated, technically or not. Auschwitz had FIFTY TWO cremation ovens, they could stuff 8 bodies into one oven, and they still had to use open air pits to keep up with the gas chambers. I looked at photographs, blueprints, and eyewitness accounts, all online.

  • I enjoy ushmm videos, but I see the narration as distracting from the video. Killing center? Concentration Camp? I'm sure the millions that died in them didn't really give a rats ass.

  • The difference is that some camps were primarily work camps and others were dedicated to extermination only.

  • Which ones were "work" camps? What was their mortality rate? Under the Nazi system "work" was as lethal as gas.  All the Nazi camps, in one fashion or other were extermination camps. Some were larger, more efficient, and killed quicker than others.

  • "Work" camps: Stutthof killed more than 85,000, Potulice 1,296, Soldau 13,000, Gross-Rosen 40,000, but I can't find totals for Zaslaw or Plaszow (said to be "very high") Inmates were murdered, worked to death, or died of disease.

    There were also seven ghettos in which countless numbers died of disease or starvation as well.

  • Aw, now you're gonna make do some research, huh?

    Okay, Buchenwald was technically not an extermination camp, but the death toll was some 57,000.

    Extermination camps: Auschwitz killed somewhere between 1.1-3 million (90% Jews), Treblinka 85,000 killed (99.5% Jews), Chelmno 185,000+ (most were Poles), Majdanek 79,000+ (most Polish Jews), Sobibor 250,000+ (most Jews), and Belzec 434,500+ (all Jews).

  • HAHAHA.. I guess you believe in Santa to.. There is plenty of evidence that the gaschambers existed. Even former soldiers ect have testified..

    A true holocaust against the German people? What, the soldiers that were killed, or the bombs trown on Dredsen, Kiel ect?

  • the idea of killingcamps.....it makes me sick that someone came up with this.Never again.

  • You are right they did hold onto there arms and legs but im sure that they would have given up an arm or a leg if they could leave those camps and not be treated like that !

  • yeah, he keeps trying to accuse me of trying to distract from the holocaust which im obviously not. ive even said the jews hat it the worst, they were set up for complete extermination. but that still doesnt mean killing millions, isnt genocide. hes insecure about something. look how many have spoke out against him. while he is all on his own. i keep telling him just to go read about it, google it, wikipedia it, go to a library, whatever. hes in denial, insecure, im not sure whats up with him.

  • Agreed 100%. And suppose the Germans were successful in exterminating the European Jews. Would they have stopped there?

    Of course not. They would've moved onto the Poles, the Russians, the disabled and infirm, the elderly, the mentally ill, political dissidents, gays, those of African and Middle Eastern descent, and anyone else not considered Aryan or partially so.

    Our friend, however, has produced no facts tosupport his position.

  • In fact, the nazis had already embarked on a policy of sterilising mentally handicapped people before the war and many homosexuals were sent to concentration camps.

  • Correct; everyone not of approved or of German stock were targeted in one way or another. The Jews were the primary target, but Poles and Czechs suffered greatly, too.

  • I agree that Jewish genocide is unique, but only in terms of victims amount , but I don't agree with you that it is something unique as definition of killing act. World history possess many episodes of genocide, for example, Armenian genocide took over 1.5 million lives, they were killed only because of race - ARMENIAN.

  • Secondary: What is the sense that 2 millions were killed not because of race, but because of they live in targeted teritory by Nazis?? Why you think that purpose of killing is primary than killing act itself?? People have died in both episodes and have been remembered.

    In your attitude I suspect some marks of rasism.

  • I already asked him what became of the Poles who ended up within German-occupied territories and he wouldn't answer. I asked him if the Germans would have been happy living next door to the Slavs they thought inferior and he would answer that, either.

  • Firstly, I don't agree that Polish slavs weren't targeted by Nazis, because of they are Poles. They have been targeted in order to free land for new superior German race. And they were targeted as Poles, not just because they were passerbies.

  • I agree in part here; the Nazis thought of the Poles in particular and Slavs in general as sub-human and that fueled the drive to kill them off, too. The obvious benefit was their land and resources.

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  • To be precise-Poland lost 6 million citizens during WWII (including 3 million of jewish origin).

  • Exactly : among the 3 million Jewish Poles, 92% were exterminated, whereas 11% of the non-Jewish Poles were killed (3 million out of 27 million) during WWII.

    So, more the proportion of Jewish Poles exterminated during WWII is 8 times bigger than the proportion of non-Jewish Poles killed during WWII.

    No comparison possible in any way...

  • Moreover, the Jewish Poles were all killed because of their race (like all the European Jews), whereas the non-Jewish Poles who died during WWII were killed in battles (during the invasion of Poland, the bombing of Warsow, etc.), or by imprisonment, or by disease, or by starvation...

    So, it's totally ridiculous to compare the fate of the Poles to the fate of the Jews.

    Doing so borders to the denial of the genocide of the Jews.

  • About 1.9 million Polish civilians (non-Jews) were killed during German occupation, they died in prisons, death camps, forced labor and concentration camps etc. I think this is quite reasonable number of people victims who need to be remembered alongside with Jews and Romans, btw there were also minorities. Also German killed in camps about 2 millions prisoners of war from Soviet block.

  • But those non-Jewish Poles weren't killed because of their race, they died in the war like many other people, without being specifically targeted because of their race.

    The genocide of the Jews and the Gypsies is a unique crime in all human history.

  • many jews died of disease and starvation by being worked to death, the same as the europeans. 2 million dead poles and 14 million soviets does not include military deaths or POW's. (they also gassed 2-3 million soviets with gas) it does include bombs, which i know is different.

    but rounding up people because of who they arnt and shooting them vs. rounding people up and shooting them becaue of who they are and shooting them... both situations are war crimes and genocide.

  • Yes, Jews died of disease and starvation and so on, but because of their RACE, and because ALL of them were targeted.

    The non-Jewish Europeans who died of disease and starvation and so on weren't specifically targeted by the Nazis. They died like in all the wars many people die.

    It's not the same.

    But obviously, you don't want to acknowledge the uniqueness of the genocide of the Jews.