Guido Fawkes vs Derek Draper, The Daily Politics (26Mar09)

[Theoptimusprimebot]

Draper. You're a coke snorting smug cunt and all that is rotten about the millionaire socialist wankfest that is new Labour. And you are married to a cunt too.

[mrace84]

derek draper just seems like a slimy wanker

[Aldeberan9]

Derek Draper, what a twat. Is he a mobile disco DJ?

[Schniddo]

@sinexus6 Fair enough! I suppose I'd fall into the same category...

[Schniddo]

@sinexus6 'This is why I despise the left wing' No, it's why you despise Labour partisans. If you despise people with left politics that's probably down to your own intolerance.

[Schniddo]

Being a Labour stooge doesn't make you left-wing. A plague on both these donkey-boys' houses.

[blacflag]

Paul Staines is a waste of oxygen, Tory Donkey, Guy Fawkes would be turning in his grave.

[ToTirzah]

@blacflag you've been writing this all over the place, cheapening your point, Martin Luther would be turning in his grave.

[blacflag]

@ToTirzah just making sure folks know, raising awareness, and i think you'll find i posted the same comments all around the same day over a month ago, when he was sinking to some new smearing depths even for him - how exactly does repetition cheapen a point by the way?

[blacflag]

@ToTirzah and what do i have to do with martin luther?

[ToTirzah]

@blacflag oh, i think it cheapens it alright ;) so do you if you're honest... Martin Luther was another anti-establishment figure as i'm sure you know, if you like Guy Fawkes he is also worthy of your attention

[blacflag]

@ToTirzah interesting, anonymous, patronizing & condescending, thanks, and what makes you think you know me? who are you? and what makes you think i should take your opinion on board?......i know who martin luther is, he has nothing to do with me, and using him as a reference to insult me seems pretty pointless, why guy fawkes would be turning in his grave is obvious.

[blacflag]

@ToTirzah hold on, hold on, are you telling me you actually take paul staines as a relevant, reliable, political commentator?

[ToTirzah]

@blacflag lol ok--take it as an insult if you want, you're the one with a flag for a picture and no name on your page so i don't see as how i'm the anonymous one. yes, it was a bit condescending but what am i supposed to do with someone like you? in fact i don't have much time for Staines either, but i accept he has as much right to live as me or anyone else... and i really don't think Guy Fawkes would care very much one way or the other, he's seen it all before by now probably

[blacflag]

@ToTirzah think you'll find i've been on youtube from the start, and most folks do know me, i have a lot of other personally profiles with more detail that people know....so if u have no time for staines, why chose to have a go at my comment? what's ur real problem then? so what if i repeated it, why would that get under ur skin?

[ToTirzah]

@blacflag i don't have a 'problem'--it was just a comment, it wasn't an attempt at immortality or anything! like i say, i think there was no need to get so personal, and the fact that i noticed it on three videos this morning without even looking for it made me think i'd have a piece of that action... i would've thought no more of it if you hadn't kept replying, and i really didn't think you'd take it to heart so. i tell you what, let's forget the whole thing eh? happy "hallowe'en"--friends?

[blacflag]

@ToTirzah not that it's any of ur business, but the reason i posted these at that point was he made a personal attack on someone i actually know, things i knew were a pack of lies and were established.....he's a tory lapdog, dodging in & out of his tory closet.

[henrythesteinberg]

Bloggers appear to be morons

[fishstyx32]

I am sad to see such horrible comments about Derek. He saved my life once (literally) and it is sad to see so many people hate him.

[bambamgo98]

Draper got demolished .

[MegaSpliffster]

Derek Draper is an evil slimy cunt.

[bonfirejovi]

is youtube racist for allowing racist comments? stupid socialist are at it again. Labour only has two arguments, namely proletariat populism and racism.

Anything that has been provided for "free" was taken from the productive sector of the economy and given to public services. If we are going to engage in charity then lets at least be honest about it. If those rich people weren't there then who would pay for the public services? There is no such thing as a free lunch.

[R0undAboutMidnight]

Vote Labour! 

[insomniajo]

Everyone's slagging off Draper. What about Fawkes? Isn't he a cunt as well?

[happyuk06]

Guido did a superb demolition job on both of those New Labour slimeballs Draper and McBride. Right through the interview Drapers/McBrides emails were already caught and immortalized. Draper was already comprehensively stuffed and did not even know it! It did not stop him however from lying though his teeth even when Guido put it to him about the smear attempts.

[Moriarty123456]

Draper is slime.

[dadsdaisy]

I would never get tired of slapping Drapers flabby face.

[vehiclesystems]

Derek Draper is Married to GMTV's Kate Garraway. The 'thick' one who is so blatantly biased just like her ex co presenter Fiona Philips. Wonder why Brown always goes on the GMTV sofa and is always given an easy interview??? Look at how hard a time any Tory MP is given on the same sofa. Draper is nothing more than a hypocrite, disgrace and a total asshole.

[vehiclesystems]

On 11 April 2009, it was reported by the Daily Telegraph that Gordon Brown's special adviser, Damian McBride had sent a series of emails to Draper discussing plans to set up a blog which would post false rumours about the private lives of members of the Conservative Party and their spouses. These smears would have included sexual and personal fabrications against Nadine Dorries, Conservative leader David Cameron and his wife, Samantha, and Shadow Chancellor George Osborne and his wife Frances.

[cjmooney9]

Guido Fawkes is little more than a tory front group. Just like the tax payers alliance

He was exposed years ago, as working his web site from tory party servers. Something he blamed on "admin problems"

They put him off shore, to act as their leak/smear merchant. Knowing nobody can sue him there

Just the tories "red rag" forum I'm afraid. The red rag was set up to counter tory front groups like Guido Fawkes

[randomgasattack]

This is a Copy & Paste reply - try using your imagination next time and come with something original.

[randomgasattack]

The 'comment' from cjmooney9, that is.

[postmasterw00t]

@cjmooney9

really?

i always thought guido believed in the illuminati and wasn't for either party

[MisterHughes]

Draper represents everything that stank about the Blair years, after years of sneering at the tories they came into power and did exactly the same and worse and justified by saying "It's alright if we do it, it was just wrong when they were doing it". I also note that these days he looks like Joe Pasquale's pedo-twin.

[raunchbear]

I'm American and don't know a thing about British politics, the guy in the suit seems a little sleazy.

[jinkedful]

wow. derek draper; another turd in the sewer that is new labour.

[9wolfy9]

Derek Draper is a cocaine snorting lying New Labour turd stuck inside the stinking filthy sodomised arse hole of Peter Mandelson.

[goodtimes0000]

@9wolfy9 nice.

[whiskasalpha]

@9wolfy9

Wow what wit..

Guido Fawkes is an ill educated tory cunt.. .See i can be just as primal!

[Aireysghost1]

@whiskasalpha You think you can be as primal as 9wolfy9? I doubt it very much.

[insomniajo]

Andrew Neil showed lack of professionalism in this interview: telling that guy to shut up.

[999dogbraeth]

i agree

[MrBeefmuncher]

Draper talks like that gay bloke in the castle in Monty Python's Holy Grail!

[dappa3]

Draper is a fool and whiny cunt

[Turin999]

Staines gave Draper a bit of a kicking there. Good man.

[Lionboy2930]

What on earth did Kate Garaway see in this prick??

[claudegreengrass1]

Because her ambition knows no bounds. New Labour all but owns GMTV. Witness the toe curling, pass the sick bag, sychophantic interviews by both Garaway and Phillips of New Labour politicians. Lie back and think of career methinks.

[FAYstuart]

doesnt phillips write in the mirror as well?

[AnonymousBiz]

"I completely deny that Damian McBride has anything with what we publish on labourlist"

Hahahahahaha

[classicvox]

Draper is an out of touch narcissistic self absorbed elitist buffoon.

[MaxTallon]

I think you're being too kind. He is, in fact, a slippery, dirty, disgusting little weazel who badly needs a shave, a wash, and a haircut: 'though none of the above would cure his natural sliminess.

[classicvox]

lol .......... you are correct!

[chewbaccadefense99]

Derek Draper has a face you'd never tier of slapping.  It's all about power Derek and your hypocrisy that your somehow in it for the masses doesn't wash with anyone. Your in it for me me me.

[cbbrockwell]

sorry Derek, you lost this argument big time. Andrew Neil on top form as ever.

[matei2005]

what a slimy wanker is Derek Draper

[proudofmycountry1989]

Bye bye Derek.

I'll miss you... but I'm sure I'll get over it!

(LOL at the berkley t-shirt.... where Draper falsely claimed he got his degree from)

[gorkys6]

Draper is as convincing as the hair on Andrew Neill's bonce

[zzxzqwq]

Well good fun blogging.

[racingrubberbiker]

Whatever happened to Dolly? How can Broon cope?

[animal6774]

What a repulsive little man Derek Draper is. How on earth can a horrible, snidey, freakish misfit like him have any say in the running of the country?

[MoonAharshMistress]

"We publish every year who finances us.."

"Who?"

"Well we havent published it yet"

Lol

[helen2333]

It looks like we can look forward to the first blog based election.

God help us!

[mck1976]

yep - Draper's fantasies about his education. This sorry, marinated fuck wit is a professional fantascist. dripping in self congratulating left-wing ooze, the only traversty here is that he managed to bed Garraway

[SPANKEESPANGLER]

hilarious.....did anyone notice the significance of Mr Staines T Shirt....?

[MoonAharshMistress]

4.

Never lose sight, the sex industry(eg ,agencies)are scared of being deported or jailed ,& ,as such, are in predicament of being partisan always to whoever is in power..this case, NewLabour..(omitted)

.. THE RULE is : "we are knockabout enemies wen it comes to our work-but in our recreation-our beloved sex industry- we are to be loyal, and we are to make common cause..."

Torys broke that club rule..so its gloves off.

Fawkes was just the conduit. another pawn in the game.

[MoonAharshMistress]

3.

Now you're asking "what possible intended positive result cud Labour achieve by putting themselves so deliberately in harms way?"

Well, its the covert message to the Tory party: "dont f**K with us on sex sleaze (Smiths husband for example), cos the stuff we've got on you is better and harder..& cud finish you"

[MoonAharshMistress]

2.

..knowing ,as they did (from Guido Fawkes), that they were under interception from as far back as march this year, Macbride hit on the idea of sending Draper stuff they wanted out but couldnt air themselves...and, surprise surprise, Guido Fawkes- who assumed this wud damage the labour party rather than help it- took the bait...

.. NewLabor knew there would be a slight public/media backlash against them but nothing they cudnt handle as the result has justified the means

[MoonAharshMistress]

1. If I have got that premise right, then may I suggest this is what happened: McBride was sitting on some inflammatory stuff about the Tories, but knew he had the ageold problem of how to get it legally into the public domain: they knew they couldnt release it thru media as that wud be subject to the legal setting of libel/breach of privacy etc- the dirtyness of which would bring Labor public opprobrium, and/or lawsuits(if found untrue) .....

[MoonAharshMistress]

Have I got this right : Guido Fawkes broke the original story of a method used of Damian McBride sending smears to Derek Draper to paste up on a blog site, and this was known, regarding the 'Iain Dale- racist' thing, as far back as March 26 of this year?

[allybelge]

Draper is an utter dipshit

[aaron87a]

i'm willing to accept your point on dereck draper not saying anything interesting in the 20 second u cut as i saw the whole thing when it was broadcast myself but could you make it a 2 parter so everyone can see the "gospel truth" themself

[maxfm82]

Derek Draper is a total and complete cunt..... simple.

[tintinthegoat]

i suspect that fuckwit derek  draper is drowning his sorrows in a bottle and considering his next mental breakdown. if anyone gets a chance tell hime hes a cunt

[Sashphoenix]

It would be my pleasure!

[27johnny]

I doubt Draper could be any more arrogant if he tried? I loved it when he started to squirm and avoid answer answering about McBride.

[vezzyp]

Remember this simple equation when discussing Derek Draper.

Derek Draper = cunt

[Saelkar]

That's easy to remember and true.

[xyandzed]

lol spot on.

[rockerbillyj]

Love Guido's dig at Draper with the T- shirt

[fodsaks]

I'd love to know Derek Draper's address... Purely so that on election night I can knock on his door and then laugh in his face when he answers.

[Artognou]

Interesting, all I can say about Derek Draper is that he is quite clearly and patently unable to conduct a rational debate without getting frustrated and resorting to name calling or raising his voice over others, behavourially speaking that is indicative of fascistic behaviour, he needs to remember that he isn't a politician, he does not possess the skills to become a politician, he is a nobody.

[AdamShanklyUK]

That is good TV... but Derek Draper comes across as the loser on this one!

[timcanterbury]

Draper is a joke. He needs to shut his over opinionated trap and listen to someone else for a change. The problem is that the narcissistic little worm loves the sound of his own voice. The guy hasn't got a clue.

[Mike6SC]

Christ, they're both losers. Reminds me of siamese twins having a slap fight for some reason.

[ProzrachnyTeatr]

Draper is a neocon cunt.

[MaxTallon]

Derek Donkey raper

[midianholic]

Draper is a twat. His body language is terrific. Could he get further away from Paul.

Fair play to Brillo telling Dolly to shut up.

[searesponse]

Two fat men