It is liberty that people want; not necessarily Ron Paul; I find it also funny that you "feel" something is wrong with Ron Paul and or his followers, don't you identify with objectivism ?"Feeling" and having no reason to feel that way seem very irrational; and obviously people want Ron Paul because of liberty, you seem like the type to simply dislike any one who would garner attention. Nobody supports Ron because he is Ron Paul they do it because of there love for liberty,
if we get rid of the federal reserve and go back to regional banks printing their own currency, it will destabilize the economy of the entire planet. especially in the american economy is this the absolute most horrible thing you could possibly do. if this man ever gets elected president and is duped by Congress into doing this, we will all be horribly horribly fucked and will most likely all starve to death on the streets as everyone goes apeshit trying to pillage and loot one another. facepalm
Neither of the two Presidential candidates that the two machines put up every four years is ever going to be a solution. If Obama hasn't proven that point yet, then people are blind. Paul has the solutions, eg. sound money, end the fed, non-interventionist foreign policy, shut down the world empire, restore limits on federal government, and take away the abusive power of personal taxation from the free-spending Congress. And the thing about Paul is, he honors his promises, consistently.
That is the only genuine viable proposition of solutions on the political stage. All the others just BS to death and are beholden to Wall Street and K Street and always do their bidding. Obama is such a magnificent example. The two parties suck. My hope is that Paul forms a third party, the Constitutional party. The egomaniacs power chiefs of the Republican party will never put him on the top of the ticket, anyway. 2012 is Paul's moment in history. He should take it.
He's the only one courageous enough to stand there out on his own with that platform. Now that you bring up the idea, I hope some day there are statues of him because that would mean enough may understand the courageousness and character of the man who bases his political career on principle and an understanding of the problems at hand. He makes a great role model. Making a statue of someone does not make him a god. You should care about the Constitution. It's your Constitution, dork.
Obama is a cult. You know--hope, change, etc. etc.--based on nothing but faith in a individual. Ron Paul is the leader of a Revolution. Jesus was not, is not, a politician. Jesus spoke to the truth. People who speak to the truth often gather a following. RON PAUL DOES NOT RAISE PEOPLE FROM THE DEAD. RON PAUL WANTS TO RAISE THE CONSTITUTION FROM THE DEAD. Get a f*cking clue!
Why should I care about the constitution? It's just a piece of paper with some ok ideas (and some not so ok ideas) about how to organize a government.
Ron Paul is a package. If you support Ron Paul you support solutions, and those solutions are being proposed ONLY by Ron Paul because Paul is the only Congressman not owned. Paul is the only one in Congress who seems to have an understanding of monetary policy. He's the only one calling for ending the Fed, ending Fractional Reserve Lending, ending fiat currency, and ending the personal income tax. Package that with non-interventionist foreign policy and you have a unique individual.
@XOmniverse I never saw this comment of yours about solutions, either. I think anyone who isn't a fan of Ron Paul is anti-solution. Now that is bullshit. We've got all kinds of solutions out there being put into effect. The Wall Street Bailout, TARP, Cash for Clunkers, QE 1, QE2, QE3,QE4, QE5....austerity, austerity, austerity, a war here, a war there. Oh, there's lots of people out there with solutions. There are many kinds of conservatives. Don't lazily, or ignorantly, lump them together.
@tryptala Every politician says he has the solutions. Ron Paul is just another politician with big ideas. Ron Paul thinks he has the answers to problems in 2011 with ideas from 1811, but the world is far more complicated than a simple solution. Ron Paul=Liberty? You question fractional reserve lending? You do realize that ending the ability of banks to invest your money to make it grow means no more loans for ANYONE, and eventually no more banks. Stagnant economy is a favorable goal?
@howlingwolf8 You absolutely misunderstand Ron Paul. Paul does not say he has all the solutions. He says YOU have all the solutions. Not the U.S. gov't, not the Fed, not the IMF, not the United Nations. Paul just wants the U.S. gov't to adhere to the Constitution. Stagnant economy? What the hell do you think we have now? We are in a recession that is likely to last for decades because the banks were allowed to lend out money into the stratosphere via policies of the Fed. DEBT IS THE MONSTER.
@tryptala Yes I agree debt is the monster. And yes, there needs to be changes. but Ron Paul wants more than what he says is Adhering to the constitution. He wants unfettered free market economy, something that history has shown doesnt work on its own. its what has led to the sheer magnitude of the power corporations have.
@howlingwolf8 That is the biggest misconception out there--that free market Capitalism has led to present corporate power. Absolutely wrong. We are not in a free market and never have been. We are in a managed economy with artificial interest rates, subsidies, and bailouts. The mega corporations have the power they have because of a corrupt legal system and unequal access to money and markets. They are the first at the Fed teats, thereby get the cheapest money and then turn around with it....
@howlingwolf8 ...gamble, coerce, buy the political system, and screw the rest of us, outsourcing jobs, hiring lawyers to eat away competition, and when they get in trouble, use their bought and payed for politicians to bail them out at the expense of you and me and our grandchildren. This is the real function of the Fed, to enslave the population for the benefit of the elitists and the owners. In a free market level playing field, mismanaged companies that gamble and lose fail and go bankrupt.
@howlingwolf8 Ron Paul is not an idiot. He believes in a level playing field for the individual, including anti-trust laws, etc., but most importantly, the PROSECUTION OF FRAUD--something the bought politicians and revolving door regulators fail wholeheartedly at. Regulations don't work because the government bureaucracies are inept and corrupt. Regulations are USED by the mega corporations to their advantage against their competition. Monsanto is a gleaming example, as is Glass-Steagall.
@XOmniverse I haven't been here since I left comments a year ago. Now I see that my response to your question about why you should care about the Constitution has been deleted. I think I called you a name, so fair enough. I'll repeat the rest of what I said, though: when you are brought before the tyrant in chains, you tell him that the Constitution is just a piece of paper.
what point are you trying to make ? every candidate has their fanatics. why are you focusing only on the character of a certain sect of his supporters ? and ron paul DOES dwarve all of congress with honesty and integrity. what is your argument to this point ?
why can't you people attack his stances on issues or ideas ? do you only focus on this ad hominem garbage because you will lose a political debate ?
the only reason why people label Ron Paul as cult is because they cant attack any issue directly because truth prevails and any issue you try to confront they will lose, but they cant destroy an idea!
Ron Paul is the "first" and with that comes exaggerated admiration which first may start on the idea and then on the person. It's the same thing that happened with Obama.
I normally don't pay much attention to responses but when Obama was in his "prime" how was the comments compared to Ron Paul?
Great video. I'd like to take issue with you on the idea of abortion though. Whether you are a religious person or not, I'd say there is only one discernable, empirical purpose to life, which is reproduction. I'd challenge anyone to dispute that. Now I'd have to conclude that the one 'purpose' in life must neccessarily attach to it some responsibilities. Responsibilities to raise, educate, and care for our children. Those are intuitive. The same must be true of carrying our offspring to term.
Not necessarily. There's no doubt that either nature or God programmed us with one purpose that we have discovered thus far - procreation. Most people consent to have sex because they enjoy it, but we enjoy it because nature gave us a purpose to procreate. Like it or not, such a purpose also attaches natural responsibilities. Otherwise parents would not be obliged to provide for their children. But yes when people choose to have sex they must understand the duties that can possibly arise from it
Of course Ron Paul isn't Jesus; Ron Paul actually exists. =P
Really, I think the personality cult thing is more of a byproduct of American politics in general rather than any specific candidate. It seems most Americans who vote Republicrat don't really understand what their candidate is about, they vote for them based on crap like how charismatic they are or whether they have a "D" or "R" behind their name. Perhaps people who were attracted to Paul's message couldn't shake that habit.
sorry - semantic pedantic point - whether the quoted sentence uses the word "liberty" or substitutes the name of the candidate with such policy is trivial.
And what? Are you saying Obama's support isn't personality based?
OK - good! Sorry. I thought you were one of those mainstream conservatives who hypocritically slander opponents with slurs more accurately used autobiographically on themselves!
I used to be a big big big supporter of RP. If it wasn't for him, I don't know how long it would have been before I discovered the true value of anarcho-capitalism. So I've got to at least thank him for that.
I think your so mislead and in your credit as well as your downfall is Libritairians (sorry spell)are actually the founding ideas of Republicans or know at one time: people for the republic.There are two kinds of people free thinkers and followers.The wierdo ones as you seem to portray them haven't been awake and think their hole life like you and I.Also they are the follow style so what does their mind set tell them?Prop him up in their mind as a symb of the freedom they desire.
I agree. It should be about the message of freedom and liberty, not one of the flag-bearers. People should support ideas first, and then support those that fight for those ideas - many have lost sight of this.
Jeez, of course he is not the Messiah (one Messiah is all we need), and this honorable politician never has posed as one.
I live in CA, and the religious fervor people have about Hillary can be as unbalanced as what you are concerned about with some Ron Paul advocates.
There are folks on any fringe who get extremist... don't get so weirded out about the few and focus on the individual character and message of the individual candidate.
Although the possibility of Ron Paul actually winning the presidency is next to nil at this point, I respect his vision of sticking with the race if only to spread the message of limited government, lower taxes, states rights, individual freedom, freedom of the internet, care of our veterans, etc. etc.
What reasonable person out there can argue with this message?
Ron Paul supporters have given death threats to a caucus worker who miscounted her precinct's votes because she was sick with the flu.
Ron Paul supporters have found and posted the address, phone number, and future travel plans of a teacher who posted poll results in his class and made a joke about Ron Paul's dismal ratings.
I like the man as much as the next guy and he's what the GOP needs. But some people take it too far- the become the neocon scum they hate but in a libertarian mask.
it's ironic that your concerned that ppl are actually engaged in politics these days rather than let some money grabbing idiots run the show. don't worry everything will be fine.
in case you forgot, the government should represent the ppl, he's the only real candidate, he didn't do anything the ppl got behind him cause they see what he's about, the ppl made him, and he's been saying the same stuff ever since he came into congress.
he's not jesus, he's a real genuine person. and he knows what's going on. that's what your missing.
and it's been a while since the government represented the ppl
Consider the other candidates. Hillary is someone every woman (if superficial) looks up to, Obama is the blacks choice. McCain is the Sarge every warmongerer wants, Mitt is someone you buy your car from and Huckster every christians wet dream. In my view your whole system of electing officals is flawed, much to do with how the media focuses their interviews about nonsense and superficiality instead of debating real issues.
...watched FNS Detroit on election day there...they brought a dude in solely for comparing the rep. candidates with dogs....WHAT THE?!
Anyway. If your system was not as flawed we'd see Edwards toping the Dems, he would make the most 'change' with the ISSUES he states. Shouldn't matter that he talks funky and is 'another white guy'. aaand on the rep side you got Ron Paul, who doesn't hide behind false rhetorics or false promises.
So...the reason why some people get fanatic about him is that he speaks this truth as still does not get the appreciation from the media that they think he deserves, therefor the internet has become their way of spreading his issues and they guard this with all they got. Personally, I think he's a common guy, a man of the people and have always been. This is very appealing to some since it is a newly discovered thing to look at politicans other than as scum or greedy, power hungry opportunists.
And...he and kucinich are very appealing to me as a foreigner since they speak about the flawed foreign relations that are so obvious for most of the world and would make you americans an enemy of the state if you mentioned a word about it pre the invasion of iraq or in the -04 election.
The1dle : A disasterous hurricane, not a fresh breeze.
He speaks the truth of what issues are inportant to the people, but his solutions are childish ignorant as well. Promote the issuse the others are too chicken to raise, but not his solutions, as they would create more problems and financial disaster for the whole world.
Haha! I'm happy to celebrate Dr. Paul. He's a great role model, a gentleman, and a wonderful patriot.
I like your video though. I share your concern. But I think his popularity is well-deserved. I think your video should be viewed by RP supporters as a warning.
You make some valid points but I still have to disagree with you. I don't believe that too many people are putting Ron Paul ahead of his ideas. I believe that most of his supporters are as fed up with the government as you are, however for most of us the chance to vote in radical changes is very exciting. I think you might be getting queasy because that change might happen without violence.
Hilarious. You sound fairly intelligent. wonder how you got that way. EDUCATION AND THE INTERNET MAYBE?? if you don't like government go live in CENTRAL AFRICA and THINK ABOUT HOW YOUR LIFE WOULD BE FROM BIRTH TO DEATH THERE.
A country is only as good as those who participate. The fact that you're an ANARCHIST creeps me the fuck out. PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT RON PAUL LIKE HIS IDEAS FOR CHANGE AND THAT'S ALL.
He's not jesus!? hmm i guess i should stop praying to him lol. people like you are trying to crucify him like jesus. Look abstaining from voting wont change anything either i get the die hard anarchism im on board but you know .. when will we have a candidate as close as him to anarchist ideals inside the system. that is why people are shouting about HIM so much. trust me none of us are supporting ron paul over liberty don't be stupid :)
People are excited! your suppose to spread the canidate's name as the election draws near!
Of all the canidates, Ron Paul's platform is the only one that is legitimately practical and true to our constitution and that's why his "crazy" followers as you call them are getting so excited
Dude... oh my goodness... just because I love Lord of the Rings and Star Wars and Ron Paul doesn't mean that I worship them... Please don't insult my intelligence by calling us a cult...
I like what you said and I kind of get that vibe too...but not all supporters of him are like that and I believe he is the only candidate that will take America into the right direction towards ultimate freedom and liberty.
At least Ron Paul acknowledge anarchists existence, and in a positive light, at several of his speeches. He's not Jesus, but who cares, Jesus sucked and died, lol.
Dude, I'm sorry, but that made no sense. What the hell are you trying to say? That the frequency of the words I use imply what I'm worried about or something? What the hell is wrong with using a candidate's name? Should we start saying "Liberty '08" and leave potential voters with no idea as to what that means? And by the way, I think Abe Lincoln has a statue (albeit small...) of himself that's been erected posthumously. Is that that weird; does that scare you; is he our messiah?
You are right. Ron Paul isn't Jesus. Jesus is simply another name for god's sun. Sun worshippers know this fact. It's the greatest story ever told. If you believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins... you need to research egyptology to see that the Egyptian God Isis lived the same life and died on the cross also.
With all due respect, your entire argument seems to be semantics. Maybe it creeps you out because you have lived your entire life without ever seeing a candidate that inspires respect and loyalty. After all, I'm 37 and this will be the first time in MY life that I want to vote FOR someone and not just take the choice that is "least horrible."
ron paul doesnt support his histeric fan base...and his supporters dont discredit his points. i like ron paul and i am disgusted by most of his "fans"
Yea, thats what we do. We express our opinions freely. You got a fucking problem with that, disable comments(as u cowardly did in the other Paul video). Paul = Liberty. No matter how you word it, its the same message. It's quite simple. Stop with these childish word games. You are creeping me out XOmniverse.
Actually.. with how Libertarianism is going right now.. that is if you are talking about the LP then yes.. he is not even close to being libertarian.. he is more right than them.. he is for more economic and personal freedom.
Could you stop rabble rousing and pick up a history book? People who have actually read and understand the Constitution know where Dr. Paul is coming from. There are things that are not under federal jurisdiction that the federal government is currently trying to control.
If I could I would have Ron Paul's babies..But I'm a guy and not gay..lol..
But really..I like Ron Paul cause he said he would end this bullshit war on drugs and your carry permit is the 2nd...So yeah..I hope Ron Paul does win...
U.S. taxpayer money is allready going toward the suppression of weed. Hows that going? Not bloody well, I'll tell u that much. Paul has said that he wants to rid America of the federal bureaucracies that funnel and misuse taxpayer money. When it comes to dangerous drugs like coke and heroine, its great that the feds want to keep it out of the U.S. But the only danger posed by weed is the illegalization of it and the gang violence that surrounds its underground circulation.
hahaha!!! b/c of one guy's comment? NO way. I think youre overanalyzing it. The person who wrote that is kinda wacko. And to think Ron Paul is Jesus the messiah... is to be psycho. Im aPaul supporter and I do find it a little offensive that you would think a Ron Paul fan is mauling you just b/c they comment, but I think ppl advocate him the way they do b/c he is lower tier and they just want his name out. Thats the impression I get from some of the Paul signs: "who is Ron Paul?" no cult.
RP is supported 1)Because of his message and 2) Because he's demonstrated for many years that he means it. Your assertion that people on the whole like the man for any other reasons is rather absurd. Further, an example of the State limiting the State, or money oligarchy that runs the US - look at Andrew Jackson.
I'm not a sheep. I've never voted before. Ron Paul is just following the constitution and if you're so morally opposed to that then why don't you go to a different country. Ron Paul is not the NWO buddy
lol. People who recite this type of rhetoric are the sheeps, my friend. People don't "follow" Paul, they SUPPORT him. Actually the news media has tried to de-legitamize Paul by saying that he somehow has his "internet" supporters organized to stuff the polls. No one had any idea who he was until before this. Afterwards, I noticed people simply repeating what was said on tv. I believe that Americans should read more. That's what Paul does and that's why he believes what he does.
*RP himself says its "about the message of liberty," and not himself. This country is tanking fast, I don't think people would elevate him to messianic levels in a different context, but I still think he'd draw plenty of support. Another large part of it is, that, so many of the other candidates are TERRIFYING. Rudy Guiliani? Hillary to extend that 36 year dynasty? I don't know if I'd be as dedicated if it weren't for the other power mad crazies running with and against him.
What an excellent point you made when you advise people to vote for Ron Paul for the sake of liberty and not liberty for the sake of Ron Paul. Even though they go together like Jack and Coke. Which ever one you pour into the glass first, is up to you.
Either way you put it, I think you just came up with the next Ron Paul Freeway Banner...
ahaha. I support the man's campaign, but I'm sympathetic to your critique. However, I'll support anything that reduces government power, even if it's a temporary, one term tax break. Ron Paul's looks like a great opportunity for liberty. I don't know any of the cultist sort of supporters you speak of, but, I'm sure they're as weird as you say (prob. the f^&king objectivists.)
On the contrary, I think one major group of Ron Paul's supporters is people who have become cynical and apathetic about today's politicians. Hardly cultist.
You're reading into the ad wayyy too much, man. The whole reason Ron Paul got so much attention in the first place was because of his values. Therefore, Ron Paul supporters assume among each other that they all believe in liberty. They don't have to start from scratch and mention it all the time.
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." --Henry Ford
Paper money is poverty. It is only the ghost of money. I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money, are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies. --Thomas Jefferson
Please research the history of the banking and federal reserve system along with the inception of personal income taxation. We are in need of a revolutionary movement.
2 planks of Marx's communist state:
- a heavy progressive or graduated income tax
- centralization of credit in the hands ofthe State
the main thing is the message is poweful enough to make some people become fanatics. At least they are obviously activists which will get his name out there.
You are fucking retarded..lol he isn't the messiah of libertarians but he is the one who currently has 10million dollars so obviously all support must be focused on him.
Vote for Hillary! Vote for 'No city left without a mushroom cloud.' Vote for gas and food shortages to toughen Americans! Vote for terrorists running amok through city wastelands! Vote for anarchy and tyranny and corner-store torture! Vote for the fifth fleet on the bottom of the ocean and Blackwater running Mexican troops through American Streets! Don't forget to vote for your own destruction in 08! Remember folks X by the HildaBeast!
Vote for Hillary! Vote for 'No city left without a mushroom cloud.' Vote for gas and food shortages to toughen Americans! Vote for terrorists running amok through city wastelands! Vote for anarchy and tyranny and corner-store torture! Vote for the fifth fleet on the bottom of the ocean and Blackwater running Mexican troops through American Streets! Don't forget to vote for your own destruction in 08! Remember folks X by the HildaBeast!
Here's what should happen: Anyone should be able to drive a car or carry or own a gun without a license. You only get in trouble if you endanger or harm someone with the car/firearm.
I think many of his supporters like the idea that all they have to do is support this one man and America and all their freedoms will be saved. No real sacrifice, no revolution, just send in a few dollars and text in your vote.
BTW, Ron Paul is the best candidate in decades. Not because of who is he, but because of the message he carries. Go Ron Paul 2008!
I think many of his supporters like the idea that all they have to do to save America is just get behind this one man and then everything will be ok. No sacrifice, no revolution, just send in a few dollars and text in your vote.
BTW Ron Paul is by far the best candidate in decades. I find myself quoting him a few times every day.
yea he miss worded but it was just a normal guy with no experience trying to help any way he can. Because we all feel something isn't right thats why we're are with him. I think alot of those videos are posted by younger people who just aren't informed as much as we are but they are getting interested in whats going on so over all its goodthing. I see way more annoying things in a day. Ron Paul is pretty straight up about restoring the republic.
Reliant on, or in support of, the existence of the state. Related to the state.
Limited liability allows people high up in a corporation to make reckless decisions without having to face the full consequences of (e.g. full liability for) their actions.
That's an ignorant statement, based on your perception of how a candidate should be supported. I have been around some of his most devoted supporters. They are intelligent, multidimensional people with an eye for leaving a legacy for their children and grandchildren. To characterize them as cultists is simply a tactic to label and avoid a discussion of ideas. Keep trying and maybe you can break out of your little shell...
I discuss ideas all the time. And I assure you, many Ron Paul fans (not to say all of them) have proven to me to NOT be intelligent, multidimensional people.
That may be true, but he gives libertarian ideals in the US an enormous platform. Of course it should be the ideas that are the center and lots of his supporters are probably extreme idiots, but isn't it just beautiful to finally see even idiots supporting the intelligent ideals of libertarianism?
I agree completely--I'm a left-leaning libertarian so I agree with SOME of what Ron Paul has to say, but it's scary to see this ever-growing group of people personally attack others for simply having different opinions or just because they feel someone isn't showing Ron Paul enough respect. I saw a poster at RonPaulForums honestly get mad at somebody for referring to Ron Paul as......RON! Apparently he must be addressed by first and last name at all times.
I'm also tired of all the empty rhetoric coming from the supporters. Yea I get it; Ron Paul is for freedom....I don't know too many people who are for being enslaved. All I want is an explanation of how Ron Paul will bring about more freedom and liberty without spewing the same talking points over and over. For example, how is he going to cut all these departments and agencies when it's in congress's power to do so. Do you honestly think congress is willing to cut the IRS, DOE, etc. etc.
For the poeple that give this comment a thumbs down, please address the issue I brought up. I hope you realize Ron Paul can't follow through on abolishing departments and agencies without congress voting for it. So what are we left with? More empty promises just like the other candidates?
I've never heard the man make an empty promise. He's said: "I would work to phase out the I.R.S." He never made any promise of magical change. I don't support Ron Paul because I think that if Ron Paul is elected I'm going to have half days of work and everybody gets ice cream on friday. I support Ron Paul because he tells the truth and is not a media suck-up.
Yes joshnipps, his whole platform is based on magical changes. He talks repeatedly about abolishing Departments and Agencies, but he can't do that;it's not in his power to do so. Congress is not going to change their mind about the way government should run, so I want to know how Ron Paul would get it done. And what point are you trying to make about ice cream?
It's the war. If there were no war there would probably be less fire for Ron Paul. He doesn't really have much charisma. He doesn't need it. The ideas sparkle on their own. He is the only person running who genuinely believes in American ideals. I suppose what you see as religious fervor is something comparable to the worship of the Founding Fathers. Their names are synonyms for liberty. Do we think of Jefferson as 'Jesus'?
I agree that there is a creepy fascination with him, but I think to many Ron Paul gives hope. It seemed like libertarian ideals had no chance and that socialism and fundamentalism seemed unbreakable...and he embodies many believes libertarians and anarchists (the reasonable kind at least) crave. I guess what I am trying to say is that Ron Paul is indeed not Jesus, but it is just a very, very good feeling to have him and the ideas he supports around.
I have been awakened to what America faces if Rep.Ron Paul, MD doesnt get elected.
More of what the last 60 years of warmongering has given us , the demise of America [NAU - WTO - Patriot Act /2] and the loss of freedoms are much of 'our' issue with the other candidates and why we hold Dr Paul with such high regard. The other candidates promise change - but continue their propagandist fear campaign against terrorism. More war - More money = No change.
Ron Paul supporters may work themselves into an emotionally charged frenzy but Ron Paul himself appears to remain humble and methodical. As long as that is the case I think their hero worship is harmless. Paul does not seem to be the type who would let it go to his head and be corrupted by popularity. I will continue to support him as long as he sticks to his principles.
Ron Paul is the conduit for Liberty. That's why me (and Ron Paul supporters) are praising him. It's not a cult at all. Can't you see that the media is biased?. Ron Paul stands for REAL ISSUES.
Even if many true libertarians and market anarchists were to vote for him it would be to quell the beast of Final-Say Government temporarily. It would only be a tool to allow subversion of the state's power through Voluntaristic Agorism.
I have noticed that it is now a cultish movement in many instances. It is really getting bad. I have heard some people advocating more executive power because "It will speed up the Rom Paul Revolution". That is beyond insane, and I am glad that you are speaking out about it. and is becoming the Hugo Chavez Constitutional disaster all over again, only this time with Capitalism. The use and acknowledgement of any centralized state is statism.
He is not a messiah, but we from as far as we can tell he is for real, and REALLY cares. That is a big thing for people. Find someone who actually gives a damn and is willing to explain things to them like they have a brain.
I think it's just that the message, even slightly distorted and wrapped up in one 72yr-old is catching on with the public at large. They all want to be part of the "revolution", and among them are jesus-freaks and the celebrity-obsessed; I think it's them that are creeping you out. They creep me out too, but I actually see it as a hugely positive sign! For once a meme is spreading that isn't totally destructive.
I know exactly what you're saying. There's some things I like what he says and others, no so much, but I just can't get behind him like so many others have. In fact, I've never gotten behind any political figure like that. I just can't completly trust anyone with a significant amount of power, like politicians have.
When you get into politics you must always be on the lookout for those who are more interested in feeling important then actually promoting an ideology. I can't be the only person that has been told by others not to bring RP propaganda to an anti-war rally because "there will be socialists there!" I would advise any RP supporters out there to distance yourself from these control freaks. The RP campaign is doing better then expected and some people seem to be experiencing head-rush.
Wow, calm down dude. I understand you are angry at what you hear, but you are getting nothing done by ranting and raving. If you have a valid argument, say it. Otherwise, go take your anger somewhere where people think anger and sarcasm are valid arguments.
I am really not that angry. I just think that stereotyping is pitiful. Just because some VERY visible people are supporting RP and are acting like they are in a cult, doesn't mean every supporter is like that.
Ron Paul supporters are INFAMOUS already and they haven't really existed more than a year. QUIT STEREOTYPING RON PAUL SUPPORTERS!
A REAL rational person would know that the percentage of very extreme and aggressive people that are supporting RP are the ones that will write the most comments, write the most extreme comments. There are millions of RP supporters that don't act anything like this. So wake up and talk about the TRUTH.
blx2000 - The truth is that a political system that uses deadly force or the threat of deadly force to maintain control over people is NOT good, no matter who is in charge. Would you care to address your opinion on that?
I think that a government that is worrying about controlling people is worrying about the wrong thing. The gov should be worrying about doing its job. Doing it effeciently and effectively as possible. And Gov's need to really listen to people, not just pretend to listen.
ron is a clueless twerp
OutspokenDissenter 8 months ago
It is liberty that people want; not necessarily Ron Paul; I find it also funny that you "feel" something is wrong with Ron Paul and or his followers, don't you identify with objectivism ?"Feeling" and having no reason to feel that way seem very irrational; and obviously people want Ron Paul because of liberty, you seem like the type to simply dislike any one who would garner attention. Nobody supports Ron because he is Ron Paul they do it because of there love for liberty,
darkpatriotx 11 months ago
if we get rid of the federal reserve and go back to regional banks printing their own currency, it will destabilize the economy of the entire planet. especially in the american economy is this the absolute most horrible thing you could possibly do. if this man ever gets elected president and is duped by Congress into doing this, we will all be horribly horribly fucked and will most likely all starve to death on the streets as everyone goes apeshit trying to pillage and loot one another. facepalm
katsumorymoto 1 year ago
I support the guy, and I've never heard of this cult crap.
fragfestchampion 1 year ago
yes he is.
end of
Ilikenuman 1 year ago
Neither of the two Presidential candidates that the two machines put up every four years is ever going to be a solution. If Obama hasn't proven that point yet, then people are blind. Paul has the solutions, eg. sound money, end the fed, non-interventionist foreign policy, shut down the world empire, restore limits on federal government, and take away the abusive power of personal taxation from the free-spending Congress. And the thing about Paul is, he honors his promises, consistently.
tryptala 1 year ago
That is the only genuine viable proposition of solutions on the political stage. All the others just BS to death and are beholden to Wall Street and K Street and always do their bidding. Obama is such a magnificent example. The two parties suck. My hope is that Paul forms a third party, the Constitutional party. The egomaniacs power chiefs of the Republican party will never put him on the top of the ticket, anyway. 2012 is Paul's moment in history. He should take it.
tryptala 1 year ago
He's the only one courageous enough to stand there out on his own with that platform. Now that you bring up the idea, I hope some day there are statues of him because that would mean enough may understand the courageousness and character of the man who bases his political career on principle and an understanding of the problems at hand. He makes a great role model. Making a statue of someone does not make him a god. You should care about the Constitution. It's your Constitution, dork.
tryptala 1 year ago
Obama is a cult. You know--hope, change, etc. etc.--based on nothing but faith in a individual. Ron Paul is the leader of a Revolution. Jesus was not, is not, a politician. Jesus spoke to the truth. People who speak to the truth often gather a following. RON PAUL DOES NOT RAISE PEOPLE FROM THE DEAD. RON PAUL WANTS TO RAISE THE CONSTITUTION FROM THE DEAD. Get a f*cking clue!
tryptala 1 year ago
Why should I care about the constitution? It's just a piece of paper with some ok ideas (and some not so ok ideas) about how to organize a government.
XOmniverse 1 year ago
Ron Paul is a package. If you support Ron Paul you support solutions, and those solutions are being proposed ONLY by Ron Paul because Paul is the only Congressman not owned. Paul is the only one in Congress who seems to have an understanding of monetary policy. He's the only one calling for ending the Fed, ending Fractional Reserve Lending, ending fiat currency, and ending the personal income tax. Package that with non-interventionist foreign policy and you have a unique individual.
tryptala 1 year ago
"If you support Ron Paul you support solutions" = Bullshit statement intended to make anyone who isn't a fan of Ron Paul "anti-solution" in your mind.
Come back to me when you haven't drank so deeply of the conservative kool-aid.
XOmniverse 1 year ago
@XOmniverse I never saw this comment of yours about solutions, either. I think anyone who isn't a fan of Ron Paul is anti-solution. Now that is bullshit. We've got all kinds of solutions out there being put into effect. The Wall Street Bailout, TARP, Cash for Clunkers, QE 1, QE2, QE3,QE4, QE5....austerity, austerity, austerity, a war here, a war there. Oh, there's lots of people out there with solutions. There are many kinds of conservatives. Don't lazily, or ignorantly, lump them together.
tryptala 5 months ago
@tryptala Every politician says he has the solutions. Ron Paul is just another politician with big ideas. Ron Paul thinks he has the answers to problems in 2011 with ideas from 1811, but the world is far more complicated than a simple solution. Ron Paul=Liberty? You question fractional reserve lending? You do realize that ending the ability of banks to invest your money to make it grow means no more loans for ANYONE, and eventually no more banks. Stagnant economy is a favorable goal?
howlingwolf8 5 months ago
@howlingwolf8 You absolutely misunderstand Ron Paul. Paul does not say he has all the solutions. He says YOU have all the solutions. Not the U.S. gov't, not the Fed, not the IMF, not the United Nations. Paul just wants the U.S. gov't to adhere to the Constitution. Stagnant economy? What the hell do you think we have now? We are in a recession that is likely to last for decades because the banks were allowed to lend out money into the stratosphere via policies of the Fed. DEBT IS THE MONSTER.
tryptala 5 months ago
@tryptala Yes I agree debt is the monster. And yes, there needs to be changes. but Ron Paul wants more than what he says is Adhering to the constitution. He wants unfettered free market economy, something that history has shown doesnt work on its own. its what has led to the sheer magnitude of the power corporations have.
howlingwolf8 5 months ago
@howlingwolf8 That is the biggest misconception out there--that free market Capitalism has led to present corporate power. Absolutely wrong. We are not in a free market and never have been. We are in a managed economy with artificial interest rates, subsidies, and bailouts. The mega corporations have the power they have because of a corrupt legal system and unequal access to money and markets. They are the first at the Fed teats, thereby get the cheapest money and then turn around with it....
tryptala 5 months ago
@howlingwolf8 ...gamble, coerce, buy the political system, and screw the rest of us, outsourcing jobs, hiring lawyers to eat away competition, and when they get in trouble, use their bought and payed for politicians to bail them out at the expense of you and me and our grandchildren. This is the real function of the Fed, to enslave the population for the benefit of the elitists and the owners. In a free market level playing field, mismanaged companies that gamble and lose fail and go bankrupt.
tryptala 5 months ago
@howlingwolf8 Ron Paul is not an idiot. He believes in a level playing field for the individual, including anti-trust laws, etc., but most importantly, the PROSECUTION OF FRAUD--something the bought politicians and revolving door regulators fail wholeheartedly at. Regulations don't work because the government bureaucracies are inept and corrupt. Regulations are USED by the mega corporations to their advantage against their competition. Monsanto is a gleaming example, as is Glass-Steagall.
tryptala 5 months ago
@XOmniverse I haven't been here since I left comments a year ago. Now I see that my response to your question about why you should care about the Constitution has been deleted. I think I called you a name, so fair enough. I'll repeat the rest of what I said, though: when you are brought before the tyrant in chains, you tell him that the Constitution is just a piece of paper.
tryptala 5 months ago
what point are you trying to make ? every candidate has their fanatics. why are you focusing only on the character of a certain sect of his supporters ? and ron paul DOES dwarve all of congress with honesty and integrity. what is your argument to this point ?
why can't you people attack his stances on issues or ideas ? do you only focus on this ad hominem garbage because you will lose a political debate ?
ManInTheBox0784 2 years ago
What is the definition of Cult?
A. Cult- a politician that actually understands the purpose of the Constitution the country was founded on.
B. Cult- a politician that actually does what he says he is going to do.
C. may popularly refer to a religous group with relatively few adherents whose beliefs or practices are regarded by others as strange or sinister.
D. all of the above
CHardi1099 2 years ago
the only reason why people label Ron Paul as cult is because they cant attack any issue directly because truth prevails and any issue you try to confront they will lose, but they cant destroy an idea!
yourboyken 2 years ago
Ron Paul is the "first" and with that comes exaggerated admiration which first may start on the idea and then on the person. It's the same thing that happened with Obama.
I normally don't pay much attention to responses but when Obama was in his "prime" how was the comments compared to Ron Paul?
jeremiahsays 2 years ago
I feel ya man...They attack me so much calling me names like neo-con and war monger...It's the cult of personality
nitagirl614 2 years ago
Great video. I'd like to take issue with you on the idea of abortion though. Whether you are a religious person or not, I'd say there is only one discernable, empirical purpose to life, which is reproduction. I'd challenge anyone to dispute that. Now I'd have to conclude that the one 'purpose' in life must neccessarily attach to it some responsibilities. Responsibilities to raise, educate, and care for our children. Those are intuitive. The same must be true of carrying our offspring to term.
dbmcmillan 2 years ago
By purpose do you mean duty? If so, I dispute it.
XOmniverse 2 years ago
Not necessarily. There's no doubt that either nature or God programmed us with one purpose that we have discovered thus far - procreation. Most people consent to have sex because they enjoy it, but we enjoy it because nature gave us a purpose to procreate. Like it or not, such a purpose also attaches natural responsibilities. Otherwise parents would not be obliged to provide for their children. But yes when people choose to have sex they must understand the duties that can possibly arise from it
dbmcmillan 2 years ago
A Messiah of Liberty lol
overmind25 3 years ago
Of course Ron Paul isn't Jesus; Ron Paul actually exists. =P
Really, I think the personality cult thing is more of a byproduct of American politics in general rather than any specific candidate. It seems most Americans who vote Republicrat don't really understand what their candidate is about, they vote for them based on crap like how charismatic they are or whether they have a "D" or "R" behind their name. Perhaps people who were attracted to Paul's message couldn't shake that habit.
Wolfwood824 3 years ago
you know what, you look a lot like a ron paul supporter. neckbeard - check. unironic moustache - check. shaved head - check. overweight - check.
on the subject i did see some paultard had written on another video that ron paul reminded them of jesus.
bobzilla211 3 years ago
sorry - semantic pedantic point - whether the quoted sentence uses the word "liberty" or substitutes the name of the candidate with such policy is trivial.
And what? Are you saying Obama's support isn't personality based?
Be consistent.
mallamoozoo 3 years ago
When did I ever say Obama's support isn't personality based? I completely think that it is.
I am being consistent.
XOmniverse 3 years ago
OK - good! Sorry. I thought you were one of those mainstream conservatives who hypocritically slander opponents with slurs more accurately used autobiographically on themselves!
mallamoozoo 3 years ago
I'm a libertarian and a very consistent one.
XOmniverse 3 years ago
I thought his name was Ron Paul?
JayAre561 3 years ago
I used to be a big big big supporter of RP. If it wasn't for him, I don't know how long it would have been before I discovered the true value of anarcho-capitalism. So I've got to at least thank him for that.
findingthepath 3 years ago 2
Ron Paul is The Truth, the Light, and The Way. RP makes the most delicious Kool-Aid drinks.
TruthandJustice101 3 years ago 2
I think your so mislead and in your credit as well as your downfall is Libritairians (sorry spell)are actually the founding ideas of Republicans or know at one time: people for the republic.There are two kinds of people free thinkers and followers.The wierdo ones as you seem to portray them haven't been awake and think their hole life like you and I.Also they are the follow style so what does their mind set tell them?Prop him up in their mind as a symb of the freedom they desire.
Edgrot 3 years ago
ur really reaching to find something negative. everyone knows that hes for liberty
kuckold 3 years ago
I suppose if you're not an immigrant.
XOmniverse 3 years ago
I agree. It should be about the message of freedom and liberty, not one of the flag-bearers. People should support ideas first, and then support those that fight for those ideas - many have lost sight of this.
KagarBeardtooth 3 years ago
Who's Jesus?
dnHooligan 3 years ago
I have no problem with the man EXCEPT the fact that he embraces this cult of personality. (I've been using the term for a long time, too)
fizzlertheevil 3 years ago
Jeez, of course he is not the Messiah (one Messiah is all we need), and this honorable politician never has posed as one.
I live in CA, and the religious fervor people have about Hillary can be as unbalanced as what you are concerned about with some Ron Paul advocates.
There are folks on any fringe who get extremist... don't get so weirded out about the few and focus on the individual character and message of the individual candidate.
Aiyiyiyi 3 years ago
Although the possibility of Ron Paul actually winning the presidency is next to nil at this point, I respect his vision of sticking with the race if only to spread the message of limited government, lower taxes, states rights, individual freedom, freedom of the internet, care of our veterans, etc. etc.
What reasonable person out there can argue with this message?
Aiyiyiyi 3 years ago
Typical Ron Paul supporter profile:
White male
20-30 years old
grew up fatherless
bullied in in high school
looking for a Father Figure
find Ron Paul's s scrawny physique and quirky way of enunciating to be a mirror of themselves
they're "gonna show the world this time!" because now they have a Messiah to lead them into the Social Redemption Holy Land!
Ron Paul is love! Ron Paul is peace! Ron Paul is Pure Consciousness. Now drink your Kool-Aid, my children.
TheMexicaMovement 3 years ago 4
hey dingrod mexica more blacks support ron paul than any other candidate ur a fool
kuckold 3 years ago
Ron Paul supporters have given death threats to a caucus worker who miscounted her precinct's votes because she was sick with the flu.
Ron Paul supporters have found and posted the address, phone number, and future travel plans of a teacher who posted poll results in his class and made a joke about Ron Paul's dismal ratings.
I like the man as much as the next guy and he's what the GOP needs. But some people take it too far- the become the neocon scum they hate but in a libertarian mask.
treblemaker91 4 years ago 2
the american constitution supports anarchy? what?
happyhead7 4 years ago 2
RP 08 > You
prne10 4 years ago 2
It's about Ron Pauls MESSAGE, NOT just him. People are just mad because the gov/ are taking away our freedoms. Wake up.
JackNeedles 4 years ago
Florida for Ron Paul!
bawitback 4 years ago 7
it's ironic that your concerned that ppl are actually engaged in politics these days rather than let some money grabbing idiots run the show. don't worry everything will be fine.
forerunner5013215 4 years ago
in case you forgot, the government should represent the ppl, he's the only real candidate, he didn't do anything the ppl got behind him cause they see what he's about, the ppl made him, and he's been saying the same stuff ever since he came into congress.
he's not jesus, he's a real genuine person. and he knows what's going on. that's what your missing.
and it's been a while since the government represented the ppl
forerunner5013215 4 years ago
Consider the other candidates. Hillary is someone every woman (if superficial) looks up to, Obama is the blacks choice. McCain is the Sarge every warmongerer wants, Mitt is someone you buy your car from and Huckster every christians wet dream. In my view your whole system of electing officals is flawed, much to do with how the media focuses their interviews about nonsense and superficiality instead of debating real issues.
The1dle 4 years ago
...watched FNS Detroit on election day there...they brought a dude in solely for comparing the rep. candidates with dogs....WHAT THE?!
Anyway. If your system was not as flawed we'd see Edwards toping the Dems, he would make the most 'change' with the ISSUES he states. Shouldn't matter that he talks funky and is 'another white guy'. aaand on the rep side you got Ron Paul, who doesn't hide behind false rhetorics or false promises.
The1dle 4 years ago
So...the reason why some people get fanatic about him is that he speaks this truth as still does not get the appreciation from the media that they think he deserves, therefor the internet has become their way of spreading his issues and they guard this with all they got. Personally, I think he's a common guy, a man of the people and have always been. This is very appealing to some since it is a newly discovered thing to look at politicans other than as scum or greedy, power hungry opportunists.
The1dle 4 years ago
And...he and kucinich are very appealing to me as a foreigner since they speak about the flawed foreign relations that are so obvious for most of the world and would make you americans an enemy of the state if you mentioned a word about it pre the invasion of iraq or in the -04 election.
So basicly, a fresh breeze from the west IMO.
The1dle 4 years ago
The1dle : A disasterous hurricane, not a fresh breeze.
He speaks the truth of what issues are inportant to the people, but his solutions are childish ignorant as well. Promote the issuse the others are too chicken to raise, but not his solutions, as they would create more problems and financial disaster for the whole world.
JRBeaman 3 years ago
Ron paul = the idea of freedom and liberty... your just looking at things to closely like a conspircy theory.
Rethgil 4 years ago 3
Haha! I'm happy to celebrate Dr. Paul. He's a great role model, a gentleman, and a wonderful patriot.
I like your video though. I share your concern. But I think his popularity is well-deserved. I think your video should be viewed by RP supporters as a warning.
RpKingman 4 years ago
You make some valid points but I still have to disagree with you. I don't believe that too many people are putting Ron Paul ahead of his ideas. I believe that most of his supporters are as fed up with the government as you are, however for most of us the chance to vote in radical changes is very exciting. I think you might be getting queasy because that change might happen without violence.
spikebee 4 years ago
just give in.. you know you want to..
then take care of your social issues.
JDillaYO 4 years ago
Hilarious. You sound fairly intelligent. wonder how you got that way. EDUCATION AND THE INTERNET MAYBE?? if you don't like government go live in CENTRAL AFRICA and THINK ABOUT HOW YOUR LIFE WOULD BE FROM BIRTH TO DEATH THERE.
A country is only as good as those who participate. The fact that you're an ANARCHIST creeps me the fuck out. PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT RON PAUL LIKE HIS IDEAS FOR CHANGE AND THAT'S ALL.
tyvon2000 4 years ago
He's not jesus!? hmm i guess i should stop praying to him lol. people like you are trying to crucify him like jesus. Look abstaining from voting wont change anything either i get the die hard anarchism im on board but you know .. when will we have a candidate as close as him to anarchist ideals inside the system. that is why people are shouting about HIM so much. trust me none of us are supporting ron paul over liberty don't be stupid :)
kindkayne 4 years ago
who cares if your creept out.
Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul, Ron Paul!
I'm supporting Ron Paul for the sake of this country, my children and my future grandchildren.
grmcright 4 years ago
You're like those sheeps in George Orwell's novel Animal Farm that shout out a repetitive phrase without thinking.
Shadowycrafter 4 years ago
People are excited! your suppose to spread the canidate's name as the election draws near!
Of all the canidates, Ron Paul's platform is the only one that is legitimately practical and true to our constitution and that's why his "crazy" followers as you call them are getting so excited
And man this was a stupid topic to bring up
denmark90 4 years ago
Dude... oh my goodness... just because I love Lord of the Rings and Star Wars and Ron Paul doesn't mean that I worship them... Please don't insult my intelligence by calling us a cult...
Petryfid 4 years ago 3
I like what you said and I kind of get that vibe too...but not all supporters of him are like that and I believe he is the only candidate that will take America into the right direction towards ultimate freedom and liberty.
TheyCallMePopo 4 years ago
At least Ron Paul acknowledge anarchists existence, and in a positive light, at several of his speeches. He's not Jesus, but who cares, Jesus sucked and died, lol.
darkreign16 4 years ago
Yeah, but he came back to life. How many Ron Pauls have done that, huh?
Shadowycrafter 4 years ago
you are such a fat loser who said ron paul was jesus besides you
your evidence is displays that you have no life and analyze the most insignificant things
kiddynamite23 4 years ago
Dude, I'm sorry, but that made no sense. What the hell are you trying to say? That the frequency of the words I use imply what I'm worried about or something? What the hell is wrong with using a candidate's name? Should we start saying "Liberty '08" and leave potential voters with no idea as to what that means? And by the way, I think Abe Lincoln has a statue (albeit small...) of himself that's been erected posthumously. Is that that weird; does that scare you; is he our messiah?
jam824a 4 years ago
On YouTube search for Zeitgeist and watch all the parts to see what happens when the people are uneducated about the facts
noelsingletary 4 years ago
You are right. Ron Paul isn't Jesus. Jesus is simply another name for god's sun. Sun worshippers know this fact. It's the greatest story ever told. If you believe that Jesus died on the cross for your sins... you need to research egyptology to see that the Egyptian God Isis lived the same life and died on the cross also.
noelsingletary 4 years ago
The name Jesus is Hebrew in origin, and means "salvation".
But I have no beef with the Ron Paul stuff...
breakfastisready 4 years ago
With all due respect, your entire argument seems to be semantics. Maybe it creeps you out because you have lived your entire life without ever seeing a candidate that inspires respect and loyalty. After all, I'm 37 and this will be the first time in MY life that I want to vote FOR someone and not just take the choice that is "least horrible."
hibraisil 4 years ago
ron paul doesnt support his histeric fan base...and his supporters dont discredit his points. i like ron paul and i am disgusted by most of his "fans"
jmeiskues 4 years ago 3
Yea, thats what we do. We express our opinions freely. You got a fucking problem with that, disable comments(as u cowardly did in the other Paul video). Paul = Liberty. No matter how you word it, its the same message. It's quite simple. Stop with these childish word games. You are creeping me out XOmniverse.
RP08Patriot 4 years ago
I redirected comments towards another video that I asked people to watch before commenting. I left commenting open on that video.
Paul does not EQUAL liberty. He's not even consistently libertarian.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
Actually.. with how Libertarianism is going right now.. that is if you are talking about the LP then yes.. he is not even close to being libertarian.. he is more right than them.. he is for more economic and personal freedom.
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AcePilot101 4 years ago
You can't prove that Ron Paul isn't Jesus, can you fatty??!
RonPaultard 4 years ago 4
Search for The Adventures of Mark Twain. THATS Creepy!
Frankencow 4 years ago
Cult of IDEAS more like it. The same ones that founded this very country, no less...
The Constitution of the United States!
PeoplesGeneral 4 years ago
Ron Paul wrote the Constitution so he knows what it means and he is the only one on earth who does
RonPaultard 4 years ago
Could you stop rabble rousing and pick up a history book? People who have actually read and understand the Constitution know where Dr. Paul is coming from. There are things that are not under federal jurisdiction that the federal government is currently trying to control.
Fuchsia 4 years ago 9
If I could I would have Ron Paul's babies..But I'm a guy and not gay..lol..
But really..I like Ron Paul cause he said he would end this bullshit war on drugs and your carry permit is the 2nd...So yeah..I hope Ron Paul does win...
SuicideKing187 4 years ago
Give him your fucking money! If you want drugs, pay for his election. Get a blimp and get high. Otherwise stfu
RonPaultard 4 years ago
U.S. taxpayer money is allready going toward the suppression of weed. Hows that going? Not bloody well, I'll tell u that much. Paul has said that he wants to rid America of the federal bureaucracies that funnel and misuse taxpayer money. When it comes to dangerous drugs like coke and heroine, its great that the feds want to keep it out of the U.S. But the only danger posed by weed is the illegalization of it and the gang violence that surrounds its underground circulation.
Fuchsia 4 years ago 3
Your stupid plain and simple and your ugly too, hide your face next time it might help you get your message out. And fix you front teeth
marathon1218 4 years ago
hahaha!!! b/c of one guy's comment? NO way. I think youre overanalyzing it. The person who wrote that is kinda wacko. And to think Ron Paul is Jesus the messiah... is to be psycho. Im aPaul supporter and I do find it a little offensive that you would think a Ron Paul fan is mauling you just b/c they comment, but I think ppl advocate him the way they do b/c he is lower tier and they just want his name out. Thats the impression I get from some of the Paul signs: "who is Ron Paul?" no cult.
Fuchsia 4 years ago
I thought the comment was indicative of behavior I've seen in several of Ron Paul's more rabid supporters.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
I called up my Ron Paul meetup group and we're going to attack you in public sometime in the near future?
Do you know what it feels like to get beaten with Ron Paul signs? You're going to find out soon enough.
Us cult members are an angry and violent bunch of people!!!!
Come join the Ron Paul teabag party. Teabag Ron Paul and his supporters!!!
Donate to Ron Paul blimpies sub sandwich!!!
ronpaul2016 4 years ago
This guy is a dumbass
KevCal510 4 years ago
I got sick of this video. It was super dumb and boring. This guy clearly doesn't now what he's talking about.
Ron Paul 2008.
RonPaulisHOT 4 years ago
Well with a completely empty argument like that, how could I disagree?
XOmniverse 4 years ago
RP is supported 1)Because of his message and 2) Because he's demonstrated for many years that he means it. Your assertion that people on the whole like the man for any other reasons is rather absurd. Further, an example of the State limiting the State, or money oligarchy that runs the US - look at Andrew Jackson.
Strav777 4 years ago
Ron Paul followers are sheep.
All they see is the image and not the substance of what he's doing.
Want me to name some other notable anarchists?
GWB Karl Rove Cheny Wolfowitz Strauss!
They are de-legitimizeing government, religion and privatizing of everything.
Yeah they fit the Neo-liberal Anarchist role.
Look up Leo stratus and the philosophy of deception!
RP is a follower of the priory of Zion/masons.
notloz2 4 years ago
I'm not a sheep. I've never voted before. Ron Paul is just following the constitution and if you're so morally opposed to that then why don't you go to a different country. Ron Paul is not the NWO buddy
noyoucantsee 4 years ago
lol. People who recite this type of rhetoric are the sheeps, my friend. People don't "follow" Paul, they SUPPORT him. Actually the news media has tried to de-legitamize Paul by saying that he somehow has his "internet" supporters organized to stuff the polls. No one had any idea who he was until before this. Afterwards, I noticed people simply repeating what was said on tv. I believe that Americans should read more. That's what Paul does and that's why he believes what he does.
Fuchsia 4 years ago
ron paul invented the alphabet
reading is FREEDOM
RonPaultard 4 years ago
you're acting like an idiot. any candidate's campaign or supporters can be exaggerated.
Fuchsia 4 years ago
Ron Paul is NOT Jesus. Nor is he Buddah, Zeus, Thor, or Xenu. Ron Paul is a real person. Not a made-up story.
sdthomas057 4 years ago 3
What asshole said there should be RP statues? They better not have meant with tax money!
papalgoose 4 years ago
*RP himself says its "about the message of liberty," and not himself. This country is tanking fast, I don't think people would elevate him to messianic levels in a different context, but I still think he'd draw plenty of support. Another large part of it is, that, so many of the other candidates are TERRIFYING. Rudy Guiliani? Hillary to extend that 36 year dynasty? I don't know if I'd be as dedicated if it weren't for the other power mad crazies running with and against him.
papalgoose 4 years ago 4
trust in this fact...if Ron Paul gets a statue it will be Privatly funded.
YadaYadaguy 4 years ago 2
He's not Jesus, but He is God.
idiotwind75 4 years ago
WASTE YOUR VOTE AND VOTE FOR RON PAUL!!!!!!
and by doing so help elect somebody else....
JOIN THE RON PAUL DE-EVOLUTION!!!!!!
breakfastisready 4 years ago
What an excellent point you made when you advise people to vote for Ron Paul for the sake of liberty and not liberty for the sake of Ron Paul. Even though they go together like Jack and Coke. Which ever one you pour into the glass first, is up to you.
Either way you put it, I think you just came up with the next Ron Paul Freeway Banner...
"Ron Paul...For the Sake of Liberty!"
or how about
"For the Sake of Liberty...Ron Paul!"
Thanks for the idea. Great concept!
Repent!...lol
sfbay420 4 years ago
Liberty for all except immigrants!
Oh wait, that's not right. But it does appear to be Ron Paul's view.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
ahaha. I support the man's campaign, but I'm sympathetic to your critique. However, I'll support anything that reduces government power, even if it's a temporary, one term tax break. Ron Paul's looks like a great opportunity for liberty. I don't know any of the cultist sort of supporters you speak of, but, I'm sure they're as weird as you say (prob. the f^&king objectivists.)
papalgoose 4 years ago 3
On the contrary, I think one major group of Ron Paul's supporters is people who have become cynical and apathetic about today's politicians. Hardly cultist.
You're reading into the ad wayyy too much, man. The whole reason Ron Paul got so much attention in the first place was because of his values. Therefore, Ron Paul supporters assume among each other that they all believe in liberty. They don't have to start from scratch and mention it all the time.
shadyparadox 4 years ago
"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." --Henry Ford
Paper money is poverty. It is only the ghost of money. I sincerely believe the banking institutions having the issuing power of money, are more dangerous to liberty than standing armies. --Thomas Jefferson
seane22 4 years ago
Please research the history of the banking and federal reserve system along with the inception of personal income taxation. We are in need of a revolutionary movement.
2 planks of Marx's communist state:
- a heavy progressive or graduated income tax
- centralization of credit in the hands ofthe State
seane22 4 years ago
I'm not sure how anything I said implied I didn't already know this.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
the main thing is the message is poweful enough to make some people become fanatics. At least they are obviously activists which will get his name out there.
Zealouz1 4 years ago
You are fucking retarded..lol he isn't the messiah of libertarians but he is the one who currently has 10million dollars so obviously all support must be focused on him.
Zealouz1 4 years ago
Vote for Hillary! Vote for 'No city left without a mushroom cloud.' Vote for gas and food shortages to toughen Americans! Vote for terrorists running amok through city wastelands! Vote for anarchy and tyranny and corner-store torture! Vote for the fifth fleet on the bottom of the ocean and Blackwater running Mexican troops through American Streets! Don't forget to vote for your own destruction in 08! Remember folks X by the HildaBeast!
Don't vote for Freedom and Prosperity Ron Paul!
XR500Final 4 years ago
Because clearly, voting is the only way things can ever change ever.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
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Vote for Hillary! Vote for 'No city left without a mushroom cloud.' Vote for gas and food shortages to toughen Americans! Vote for terrorists running amok through city wastelands! Vote for anarchy and tyranny and corner-store torture! Vote for the fifth fleet on the bottom of the ocean and Blackwater running Mexican troops through American Streets! Don't forget to vote for your own destruction in 08! Remember folks X by the HildaBeast!
Don't vote for Freedom and Prosperity Ron Paul!
XR500Final 4 years ago
"There are some rules and regulations for a reason"
The reason is so that govts can steal from you(fines fees etc..)
If you think they are for safety the explain why the govts of the western world are all allowing massive floods of illegal immigration.
Illegals typically don't get licenses. They have no incentive to.
chriskendall1 4 years ago
Here's what should happen: Anyone should be able to drive a car or carry or own a gun without a license. You only get in trouble if you endanger or harm someone with the car/firearm.
chriskendall1 4 years ago
"I doubt he has any videos where he explains why anarchism is fundamentally better than having some form of government, or governing body."
XOmniverse 4 years ago
You'd be wrong.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
Omni, I agree
If, Ron Paul = Jesus
And, Jesus = salvation w/o sacrifice
Then, A vote for Ron Paul = America saved!
I think many of his supporters like the idea that all they have to do is support this one man and America and all their freedoms will be saved. No real sacrifice, no revolution, just send in a few dollars and text in your vote.
BTW, Ron Paul is the best candidate in decades. Not because of who is he, but because of the message he carries. Go Ron Paul 2008!
Justicefourall 4 years ago
Omni, I agree
If Ron Paul = Jesus
And Jesus = salvation w/o sacrifice
Then a vote for Ron Paul = America saved!
I think many of his supporters like the idea that all they have to do to save America is just get behind this one man and then everything will be ok. No sacrifice, no revolution, just send in a few dollars and text in your vote.
BTW Ron Paul is by far the best candidate in decades. I find myself quoting him a few times every day.
Check out my vids. Ron Paul 2008!
Justicefourall 4 years ago
yea he miss worded but it was just a normal guy with no experience trying to help any way he can. Because we all feel something isn't right thats why we're are with him. I think alot of those videos are posted by younger people who just aren't informed as much as we are but they are getting interested in whats going on so over all its goodthing. I see way more annoying things in a day. Ron Paul is pretty straight up about restoring the republic.
youngdavesplace 4 years ago
Ummm... I'm not even religious so STFU!
RussMaGuss 4 years ago
Since when did criminals become concerned with licenses?
chriskendall1 4 years ago
Reliant on, or in support of, the existence of the state. Related to the state.
Limited liability allows people high up in a corporation to make reckless decisions without having to face the full consequences of (e.g. full liability for) their actions.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
I completely agree with the non-aggression principle. Now demonstrate to me how a state can exist without violating it.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
I don't know of any definition of corporation that doesn't specifically involve economic intervention, such as limited liability.
If you know of one, enlighten me. In any case, such an entity would bear little resemblance to a modern, statist corporation.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
Corporations are a statist entity and are completely antithetical to anarchism and the free market.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
Where exactly have I misrepresented Ron Paul? Did I claim he supports something he doesn't?
Meanwhile, you make the bold assumption that no Ron Paul fan I have encountered has made an idiot out of himself without me pressuring him.
And I hate to break this to you man, but the state is itself antithetical to freedom. Anarchism IS freedom.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
'Ron Paul to a messianic level'
That's an ignorant statement, based on your perception of how a candidate should be supported. I have been around some of his most devoted supporters. They are intelligent, multidimensional people with an eye for leaving a legacy for their children and grandchildren. To characterize them as cultists is simply a tactic to label and avoid a discussion of ideas. Keep trying and maybe you can break out of your little shell...
CdEfGh1a 4 years ago
I discuss ideas all the time. And I assure you, many Ron Paul fans (not to say all of them) have proven to me to NOT be intelligent, multidimensional people.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
That may be true, but he gives libertarian ideals in the US an enormous platform. Of course it should be the ideas that are the center and lots of his supporters are probably extreme idiots, but isn't it just beautiful to finally see even idiots supporting the intelligent ideals of libertarianism?
Bardock42 4 years ago
I agree completely--I'm a left-leaning libertarian so I agree with SOME of what Ron Paul has to say, but it's scary to see this ever-growing group of people personally attack others for simply having different opinions or just because they feel someone isn't showing Ron Paul enough respect. I saw a poster at RonPaulForums honestly get mad at somebody for referring to Ron Paul as......RON! Apparently he must be addressed by first and last name at all times.
crackerboone 4 years ago
I'm also tired of all the empty rhetoric coming from the supporters. Yea I get it; Ron Paul is for freedom....I don't know too many people who are for being enslaved. All I want is an explanation of how Ron Paul will bring about more freedom and liberty without spewing the same talking points over and over. For example, how is he going to cut all these departments and agencies when it's in congress's power to do so. Do you honestly think congress is willing to cut the IRS, DOE, etc. etc.
crackerboone 4 years ago
For the poeple that give this comment a thumbs down, please address the issue I brought up. I hope you realize Ron Paul can't follow through on abolishing departments and agencies without congress voting for it. So what are we left with? More empty promises just like the other candidates?
crackerboone 4 years ago
I've never heard the man make an empty promise. He's said: "I would work to phase out the I.R.S." He never made any promise of magical change. I don't support Ron Paul because I think that if Ron Paul is elected I'm going to have half days of work and everybody gets ice cream on friday. I support Ron Paul because he tells the truth and is not a media suck-up.
joshnipps 4 years ago
Yes joshnipps, his whole platform is based on magical changes. He talks repeatedly about abolishing Departments and Agencies, but he can't do that;it's not in his power to do so. Congress is not going to change their mind about the way government should run, so I want to know how Ron Paul would get it done. And what point are you trying to make about ice cream?
crackerboone 4 years ago
I wasn't trying to make a point about ice cream. I was being figurative.
joshnipps 4 years ago
It's the war. If there were no war there would probably be less fire for Ron Paul. He doesn't really have much charisma. He doesn't need it. The ideas sparkle on their own. He is the only person running who genuinely believes in American ideals. I suppose what you see as religious fervor is something comparable to the worship of the Founding Fathers. Their names are synonyms for liberty. Do we think of Jefferson as 'Jesus'?
expatriate2 4 years ago
Yah .... The Cult of Constitution .... Blow me Asshat...
CAinfowarrior 4 years ago
Wait a minute...Ron Paul isnt Jesus?
What the fuck, why am I voting for him?
I guess its another year of writing in 'Jesus'.
Disposable50 4 years ago
So then who are YOU supporting? What are their big plans to fix this country?
J33zyCr33zy 4 years ago
See my video entitled Culture Change.
XOmniverse 4 years ago
You don't get it. Ron Paul STANDS FOR Liberty, Economic Security, National Security, etc.
Messiah of liberty?
According to Merriam-Webster: Messiah (n) 2: a professed or accepted leader of some hope or cause.
Instead of dropping "messiah" or "messianic" term to make yourself look intelligent, you should have known what the definition was before using it.
So, yes, "...accepted leader of some hope or cause" I think that fits.
rabolt1 4 years ago
If he stands for liberty, why is he opposed to immigration? Or did you mean liberty for Americans only?
Have you considered that Ron Paul might not be consistent in his positions?
XOmniverse 4 years ago
I agree that there is a creepy fascination with him, but I think to many Ron Paul gives hope. It seemed like libertarian ideals had no chance and that socialism and fundamentalism seemed unbreakable...and he embodies many believes libertarians and anarchists (the reasonable kind at least) crave. I guess what I am trying to say is that Ron Paul is indeed not Jesus, but it is just a very, very good feeling to have him and the ideas he supports around.
Bardock42 4 years ago
I have been awakened to what America faces if Rep.Ron Paul, MD doesnt get elected.
More of what the last 60 years of warmongering has given us , the demise of America [NAU - WTO - Patriot Act /2] and the loss of freedoms are much of 'our' issue with the other candidates and why we hold Dr Paul with such high regard. The other candidates promise change - but continue their propagandist fear campaign against terrorism. More war - More money = No change.
Go Ron!
quaffer22 4 years ago
Ron Paul supporters may work themselves into an emotionally charged frenzy but Ron Paul himself appears to remain humble and methodical. As long as that is the case I think their hero worship is harmless. Paul does not seem to be the type who would let it go to his head and be corrupted by popularity. I will continue to support him as long as he sticks to his principles.
ErikthaBlack 4 years ago
Ron Paul = liberty
You are a freakin nut dude wake up.
giantmouse419 4 years ago 2
Ron Paul is the conduit for Liberty. That's why me (and Ron Paul supporters) are praising him. It's not a cult at all. Can't you see that the media is biased?. Ron Paul stands for REAL ISSUES.
hamiltoneddie 4 years ago
Even if many true libertarians and market anarchists were to vote for him it would be to quell the beast of Final-Say Government temporarily. It would only be a tool to allow subversion of the state's power through Voluntaristic Agorism.
TruthHidden 4 years ago
I have noticed that it is now a cultish movement in many instances. It is really getting bad. I have heard some people advocating more executive power because "It will speed up the Rom Paul Revolution". That is beyond insane, and I am glad that you are speaking out about it. and is becoming the Hugo Chavez Constitutional disaster all over again, only this time with Capitalism. The use and acknowledgement of any centralized state is statism.
TruthHidden 4 years ago
Ron Paul = Freedom = Liberty.
He's passionate about freedom and individuals.
It's contagious!
He is not a messiah, but we from as far as we can tell he is for real, and REALLY cares. That is a big thing for people. Find someone who actually gives a damn and is willing to explain things to them like they have a brain.
FrancescaLiberti 4 years ago 4
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the Ron Paul cult of personality
MisfitDoctor 4 years ago 2
I think it's just that the message, even slightly distorted and wrapped up in one 72yr-old is catching on with the public at large. They all want to be part of the "revolution", and among them are jesus-freaks and the celebrity-obsessed; I think it's them that are creeping you out. They creep me out too, but I actually see it as a hugely positive sign! For once a meme is spreading that isn't totally destructive.
momerath42 4 years ago
I know exactly what you're saying. There's some things I like what he says and others, no so much, but I just can't get behind him like so many others have. In fact, I've never gotten behind any political figure like that. I just can't completly trust anyone with a significant amount of power, like politicians have.
koolneonrod 4 years ago
When you get into politics you must always be on the lookout for those who are more interested in feeling important then actually promoting an ideology. I can't be the only person that has been told by others not to bring RP propaganda to an anti-war rally because "there will be socialists there!" I would advise any RP supporters out there to distance yourself from these control freaks. The RP campaign is doing better then expected and some people seem to be experiencing head-rush.
Harpakhrad11 4 years ago
Let's all get together and stereotype Ron Paul supporters and act like we are intelligent.
blx2000 4 years ago
Wow, calm down dude. I understand you are angry at what you hear, but you are getting nothing done by ranting and raving. If you have a valid argument, say it. Otherwise, go take your anger somewhere where people think anger and sarcasm are valid arguments.
MiniAmericanFlag 4 years ago
I am really not that angry. I just think that stereotyping is pitiful. Just because some VERY visible people are supporting RP and are acting like they are in a cult, doesn't mean every supporter is like that.
blx2000 4 years ago
Also, I have never argued with anarchists before, so I am not sure how to interpret some of your comments. But I am learning fast.
blx2000 4 years ago
Ron Paul supporters are INFAMOUS already and they haven't really existed more than a year. QUIT STEREOTYPING RON PAUL SUPPORTERS!
A REAL rational person would know that the percentage of very extreme and aggressive people that are supporting RP are the ones that will write the most comments, write the most extreme comments. There are millions of RP supporters that don't act anything like this. So wake up and talk about the TRUTH.
blx2000 4 years ago
blx2000 - The truth is that a political system that uses deadly force or the threat of deadly force to maintain control over people is NOT good, no matter who is in charge. Would you care to address your opinion on that?
1tinsoldier 4 years ago
I think that a government that is worrying about controlling people is worrying about the wrong thing. The gov should be worrying about doing its job. Doing it effeciently and effectively as possible. And Gov's need to really listen to people, not just pretend to listen.
blx2000 4 years ago