OK, so smoking is bad for you. I don't understand how much more they want the tobacco companies to do! The truth is that our government allows the sale of a product which they know leads to cancer and all sorts of health problems. So who is the real guilty one here?
1n 1997, the oldest recorded person to live died. Her name was Jeanne Louise Calment and she smoked 1 cigarette per day after dinner. Moderate smoking is o.k. and smoking is known to be beneficial in digestion. Abuse of any kind is bad.
I'm glad weed is illegal , the tar levels are crazy , I think smoking anything is a stupid decision . I hate it when people advocate mar mar like it's the cure for everything , it has terrible negative effects on certain people , cigarettes are also retarded for different reasons , mostly additives
Anti smoking groups love the word addiction. The want smokers to feel guilty as hell, hang this sign around there neck "adict". Why? Not to make them quit. They need a reason as to why 60 million adult Americans still chose to smoke, and thousands of adults and young adults begin smoking ever day. It's because there anti-tobacco ads FAILED. People understand the risk of tobacco smoke and make a discussion to still smoke. When they say addict, i don't buy it for a minuet.
@RuneFinity44 It's not just anti smoking groups who know nicotine is addictive. It's doctors. It's scientists. Nicotine is addictive, thus smoking tobacco is addictive. Don't be ignorant. Any 2 minute search online will tell you the truth. If not, talk to a health professional. It is an undeniable truth. You don't know, b/c you don't have to deal with helping nicotine addicts quit. You actually need to use pharmacologic interventions like Buproprion. Tobacco thrives off of ignorance.
We know it's addictive. We still smoke. We still start smoking. We still ENJOY smoking. It's a hobbie, a out-lit, a social activity. It's many things besies just a addiction....
@aznfootwork Confused. I don't anyone who smokes that doesn't think tobacco is unhealthy. Who here goes to (insert fast food) thinking they're getting healthy food? I started smoking at 15 i think (I'll try anything twice). I also shun at the misuse/loose use of addiction. The "addicting" effects are no different than depriving someone of their morning coffee. It's habit, it's routine. You alter that regiment and red lights start flashing in your body. Everyone has their vises.
To begin smoking, you're crazy to do so. WHy would you want to slowy kill yourself? Or become subserviant to a cancer stick. Why would you WANT to become an addict intentionally? I dont get it.
@natyanayaki I appologise. I may have misinterpreted your comment. I don't mean to be condescending, but it's often difficult to communicate to the general public how science works and how it is often misrepresented by politics and the media without simplifying it to staggeringly basic terms. Perhaps comments are not a good way to approach it. Perhaps a channel would be better.
@G0lfYankee I do understand, I to am familiar with scientific research, science is my field, and I know that the vast majority of researchers are honest, and can't be bought out. But there are some corrupt individuals, and IMO, it's hard to get out information about a lot of things to society (like studies on BGH in milk, and how it affects US boys, and especially girls). It's why when finding information, especially on what's found in our food/drink, we can't rely just on the MSM's claims IMO
I've said it once and I'll say it again, the only way to save democracy is to outlaw all private political contributions. Each party should get a fixed amount of public money to campaign on, and the networks should be forced to give them a certain amount of ad time each. That keeps everything fair. You can't contribute, I can't contribute, unions can't, the poor can't, the rich can't, corporations can't. A fixed portion of federal budget is given up to it, and that's it.
@natyanayaki There is over 30 years of research on aspartame, which has produced hundreds of papers, conducted in dozens of countries, in several languages. There is zero evidence it is harmful to anyone except PKU patients.
Now, that doesn't mean there aren't better artificial sweetners out there, but aspartame is still harmless. Understand that "opinion" is worthless in science. Yours, Cenk's, mine - unless it's backed by data, it doesn't mean shit. And the data says SAFE.
@G0lfYankee Condescending much? When did I state and opinion? When did I say that opinion matters in (real, unadulterated) scientific research? NEVER. I'm not an idiot. Thanks for the rude, condescending lecture.
aspartame is poison. i´m glad you speak about it. the artifical sugar suggests your pancreas to produce insulin and your blood sugar level drops deep...so you feel hungry, your stomach wants carbohydrates..
apart from that aspartame is proved to have malevolent effects to your eyes, ears, vestibular sense and your overall well-being. another major effect, making the dentist happy,is tooth decay. would make sense that those arent side-effects, but the effects rumsfeld wanted in the first place.
i think most smokers (myself being an ex-smoker) are aware of the risks, that being the case it seems that every one against smoking just assumes all smokers are ignorant to the risks , if people want to use tobacco they should, if not than they should not.
@epicblogofdoom I agree with you on the risk assessment point. But I think that the aim at releasing these facts is to stop new smokers from coming in or something, or whatever.
But in my opinion whats more important is that this sets the stage for big companies to be more transparent about their bullshit. And also it paves the way for legalization of narcotics, which I'm in favor of.
@OriginalFroggyStyle how does the run out, was there loads of trees turning into oil over the years and then there wasnt, shouldnt it work like a compost heap, it gets filled back up?
This story is rather funny. They talk about how education enlightened people to dislike cigs and is leading to that being a way to get out of these strong holds. Can you imagine for a second a school teaching about how bad oil is for our environment while driving kids to school on an oil bus? or teaching about how bottled water is destroying our environment while selling it from a vending machine?
@blakebutters1 Aspartame produces 4kilocalories per gram. Considering the quantity used to give a sweet taste, the caloric contribution is pretty much zero. And where have you ever read that it is shit from some type of bacteria? That sounds ridiculous.
How can a mufucka blame the tobacco company for killin them when theiy're the ones buying and smoking the cigarettes. STOP blaming others for your dumbass mistakes! Fuckin sad!
@datniggami7 lawsuit started years ago, not today, about lies said years ago which did effect peoples perceptions of tobacco.
Example, If I sold a pill as perfectly safe, but yet killed the person upon indigestion, could I not use your argument as a defense? "He's the one that took the muthafuckin pill" ... eh? I think not. Years in the past Tobacco companies new it was bad for peoples health yet said the exact opposite, which did make think it was safe to smoke, when, if the truth was said...
@Lastknownuser Just because the say the pills are safe doesn't mean that it is for everyone. Look...It's common fuckin sense to know that if you smoke anything, it's polluting the inside of ur body....Smoke is NOT suppose to be ingested....PERIOD! I smoke weed n use tabacco products to smoke the shit....but I would NEVER blame anyone else for my actions! If muthafuckas wanna smoke, then they have to deal with the consequences! Point blank!
@datniggami7 You're being too black and white. This was not "common sense" as you put it as there was no reason to believe these products were harmful just by looking at them, despite what you say; you're only certain of their harmful effects from years of exposes and publicized court cases. Should people blame it all on the companies? No, they can quit anytime, but you can't excuse the companies for outright selling poison to the populace either. The blame goes both ways.
@datniggami7 Yea, Now it is completely known that smoking is harmful, but there were times in the past, where companies were telling people smoking was fine and dandy, and paid millions of dollars in order to crush any study that said otherwise, therefore, The common sense of the time was that smoking was perfectly fine.
The court is just making the companies admit publicly through ad's as a way of a fine for the years before it was common sense that smoking was bad for you.
Why hasn't a law pass by voters that would prohibit elected US politicans from taking money from companies? How could voters let children who don't smoke suffer from dangerous companies like tobacco industries, but prohitbit legalizing pot for so long?
@AmericanNohbuddy I understand that federal legislation is something that is enacted by Congress, but I think that there is sufficient evidence to support that congress has abuse their powers against the true will of the people. Therefore, the people should be given the power to better affect the ruling over federal legislation. How long has it been since your input affected an opinion poll that’s connected to legislation?
@AmericanNohbuddy I probably haven't done as much as others who've fought honorable for their rights, but I wouldn't want my rights taken from me. However, your statement about the founders hating democracy confuses me. Are you refering to the founders violating the rights of black people by making slavery legal?
@AmericanNohbuddy Thomas Jefferson also said, “A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both, and deserve neither” back in his early years. Does this quote mean that we live in orderless society due to our liberty?
@AmericanNohbuddy That quote did'nt have the word safety in it. Do you realize that people give up their safety all time to protect the liberties of others? The people who put their safety on the line are cops like the ones in Wisconsin who are harrassing protesters for protesting against Scott Walker and U.S. military officers fighting overseas.
Order/safety same shit. Yes and they are stupid to give up their liberty. Like the patriot act is a great example. You sacrifice the 4th amendment to "protect" the people of the country, even though it gives the government the right to wire tap you and search you.
@AmericanNohbuddy I don't believe anyone should have the right to break into people's privacy, just like I don't believe people should be questioning other people about their sex life to find out who's homosexual. However, without having people willing to sacrifice their liberty you can't have a country of liberty. If you check your history books you would see that the US was built by people who sacrificed their liberty for it.
@sholmesful "However, without having people willing to sacrifice their liberty you can't have a country of liberty" you do realize how big of a contradiction that is, right? Look up what "liberty" means.
@AmericanNohbuddy The defintion of Liberty is political freedom, but the fact it that the freedom this country provides came at a cost. The US became a free country not by having political debates like we are having, Liberty in America was achieved by blood.
That point is moot. What does obtaining a country by winning a war have anything to do with giving up freedoms for "safety" when that very legislation can and will bite you in the ass?
@AmericanNohbuddy Hey, I'm not saying that this country we live in is perfect, but no one ever said legislation was about freedom. Legislation is about laws that govern the men and woman of this country. Now you could make the arguement that the laws in this country seem to always favor the very rich causing a hinderance on freedom which in some cases you would be correct. However, at least you have the freedom in this country to make your arguements.
@AmericanNohbuddy Even you have to admit that we've come a long way since the restrictions of the past. For example, it use to be a law that black people and white people could not marry.
That's completely different. I'm talking about getting rid of the 4th amendment like I said earlier. Or having congress not declare war, or even approve of military action.
@AmericanNohbuddy I did a search on the 4th Amendment twice, and my findings show that it was created to guard against unreasonable searches and seizures. How does the 4th Amendment relate to military action in your points? Also, did you have personal issues with unlawful searches?
You can't read comments. Notice that statement ends with a period, then another starts with "Or.." in reference to another point that is unconstitutional.
@AmericanNohbuddy You and I was discussing the price of freedom, but I got loss when you brought up the 4th Amendment. I thought maybe you might be the victim of an unresonable search and seizure.
@AmericanNohbuddy Correct! To quote a phase, "freedom is the right of all sentient beings," told out of an old TV show. However, we shouldn't play God by telling people they should or should not give up their freedoms for patriotic reasons.
@AmericanNohbuddy Agreed! However, the issue on whether or not it’s patriotic to sacrifice freedom depends on the circumstances of each case. And yes I was quoting Transformers, but please don’t judge me as immature.
@sholmesful It doesn't matter on what case. There is no reason to give up your right to free speech, to give up your 4th amendment rights, to give up your right to a trial by jury, etc.
Keep an open mind. Juan Williams of Fox News got fired from an old job because he said something that violated his contract. Now you might say that he has the freedom of speech to say anything he wants, but when you sign a contract that prohibits you from saying certain things you are bound to that contract. When people go work they give up their freedoms to get paid. If a contract is violated or rules are broken there is a consequence.
That is a contract with a private company which says you follow their guidelines. You agreed to it when you signed it, so you follow it and are held accountable. An NPR correspondent getting fired is hardly like a newspaper being banned from saying something, or saying a certain group can't voice their mind when it's a negative opinion of the government.
@AmericanNohbuddy I never said that at any point that an opinion can’t be voiced. Even in a country ruled by a dictator, a person could voice their opinion, but there are consequences both intended and unintended when an opinion is spoken.
Free speech means there are no consequences. Especially in public or whatever you print. You can't give me any justifiable reason to get rid of any rights. Because there are none.
@AmericanNohbuddy Since when did I talk about taking rights away? My point was that there are consequences to what you do or say. For example, you’re writing your opinions, and the consequence is that I'm challenging you. I'm challenging your opinion. My points reflect cause and effect.
@AmericanNohbuddy To make a sacrifice for ones country by putting on a soldier’s uniform is different from giving up rights. You should be careful, someone else my think you're denigrating US troops.
@sholmesful What? I never said anything about being a soldier. You willingly join the army. You said you should give up liberty for safety in your comments. That is something you shouldn't do at all. You can not justify that.
@AmericanNohbuddy I apologize for the typo. I said "my" when I really wanted to use "might" in my above statement. I know you did not mention soldier, but I felt your comments affects the soldiers, cops, firefighters or any American who put their lives on the line for their job. Remember, the Declaration of Independents which guaranteed Americans life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness was written after American lives were lost in the battle with the British for a fight over liberty.
Regarding aspertame, look a little further, Cenk. It also effects the nervous system AND test results that were negative were left out of the presentation to FDA. MANY people have become sick and DIED as a direct result of using it. Now they are doing the same thing with High Fructose Corn Syrup. FDA is considering allowing corporations that use HFCS because it's cheaper than table sugar, to just change the name to "Corn Sugar". HFCS is a major cause of obesity in children.
Cigarettes kill 1,200 a day and marijuana hasn't killed 1,200 in the entire history of the world yet it's illegal and tobacco is not. Kooky. I hope Boehner has a Hinckley Jr. waiting for him somewhere.
How can someone be a proponent of decriminalizing drugs, and at the same time an anti-tobacco advocate? There is a disconnect here that boggles the mind.
how the fuck that tobacooo is legal , and its the number one killer in america. and pot kills no one. the goverment is so fucking dumb! WAKE THE FUCK UP
2 people die every second anyway, that's 172800 people a day. Stop polluting the fucking air with your factories and toxicities first, and then go and look out for smokers, dammit.
nobody forces anybody to smoke, and nobody will stop anybody from quitting. if you smoke cigarettes and get cancer, you need to shut the fuck up and live with the consequences of your decision. if by now, 2011, you smoke cigarettes and don't know that it is a dangerous habit, you are too stupid to be walking the earth and this planet will be better off once you die
For those who wonder: independent studies show that aspartame is safe in any humanly reasonable dosage (i.e. less than, like, a swimming pool of diet soda in one sitting). So, you can drink diet soda quite safely. Worry more about other life affecting aspects of your diet, like caloric intake vs. output, smoking, and just getting the hell off your ass. That's where you'll get most bang for your buck in terms of life expectancy.
Get over it. We all no smoking is bad. So what. How much tax payer money was waited on this nonsense. Secondly. Were would the money come for if there wasn't a tax on tobacco. This is madness pure madness. What a waist of time.
Why does the government feel they have the right to force any company to pay for ads? Completely unconstitutional. This is why government needs to be shrunk and shown who is the boss.
Fucking hell, is this really necessary? If you don't know that tobacco isn't healthy for you by now then you are beyond dense. I smoke, I know it's not in the best interest of my health, but I enjoy doing it and I'm not addicted in any way. 14 statements aren't gonna change my mind, 14,000 statements won't change my mind. Tobacco is in the crosshairs while the real criminals like big corporations and the oil companies belong there. Just like Cenk said, political influence is everything.
@MountHappy Re: "I smoke, I know it's not in the best interest of my health, but I enjoy doing it and I'm not addicted in any way. 14 statements aren't gonna change my mind, 14,000 statements won't change my mind."
But you're not addicted?!
I knew a guy once who wasn't an alcoholic--the only reason he drank was to make the little white spots go away.
@philipsidney I'm a recreational smoker, as in: I smoke for enjoyment, not because I have to or have any cravings. I've smoked for a year, took a year off, then started up again for about 6 months, then didn't have one for roughly 3 months - I bounce around.
Tobacco is shit. It's strange to me that tobacco and alcohol that kill millions around the globe are legal and you can buy as much as you want, but as for a plant (Cannabis) which is not addictive and can't kill you...nah you can't have that says the wanker governments. We live in a very backward and corrupt world. You can get stoned if you eat a lot of the spice ginger, so should they make ginger illegal? Oh the hypocrisy alone will blow your mind.
Take the greed out of the game and logic in law and governance would evolve, until that time it is 'the land of the greed and home of the slave', greed is still needed but should never be a guiding factor in life, more of a self preserving thought to help justify wants and needs for personal progress.
2:16 "..maybe this will happen to the oil companies.." Interestingly the people and think tanks who run campaigns for the tobacco industry are usually active in the climate change denial campaign as well.
e.g: Fred Singer, Fred Seitz, Marshall Institute, Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, Competitive Enterprise Institute, Heartland Institute, Institute of Public Affairs (Australia), Cato Institute, National Center for Policy Analysis, Fraser Institute..
This planet is over populated anyway. If people still decide to smoke even after learning about the negative effects of cigarettes/tobacco, then let them voluntarily die early. More resources and spaces left for us non-smokers.
Yeah we can go after tobacco. We can't go after TSA, The Bush Administration, Constitutional infringement, Air quality control, Water pollution, Lobbyists, nor the damn Taliban.
But yeah we can stop you from sucking cancer sticks... oh wait.
@t6gear Oh really? You actually think that only Americans smoke?? Are you saying All Canadians don't smoke at all??? Also, If you think Americans are stupid why would you bring up 9/11 like you cared or something... Typical Hypocrite...
@Nulono So your point is that abortions should be banned? So these little kids can grow up unwanted and end up on the streets, selling drugs and raping women, therefore repeating the process?
@MegaRammstein7 If you make sure all the smoke stays in your own lungs then we have a deal. Otherwise you're polluting the atmosphere and putting everyone's health at risk so you can fuck off.
@HerbertHKohl You soooo are. I just hate those smokers that blow smoke in your face and smell so nasty. Good thing I'm not one. You wanna know why? Because I smoke. It calms me down and makes me more docile and personable. It makes me not want to hit someone in the face with something heavy or just be a down-right bastard to people. Look, you're not gonna get me, or anyone else to quit so you should just quit while you're ahead.
@HerbertHKohl You soooo are. I just hate those smokers that blow smoke in your face and smell so nasty. Good thing I'm not one. You wanna know why? Because I smoke. It calms me down and makes me more docile and personable. It makes me not want to hit someone in the face with something heavy or just be a down-right bastard to people. Look, you're not gonna get me, or anyone else to quit so you should just quit while you're ahead.
@MegaRammstein7 We still have a misunderstanding. I don't care about you or anything you do in your life. I just wanted to point out that the argument of your original comment was wrong and that you're an asshole.
@MegaRammstein7 You're just really self-centered, and you think your life can't be complete without sucking ash into your lungs. If you are one of those rare smokers that doesn't smoke around other people then I suppose that counts in your favor, but smoking is still bad for the environment and it seems like you have a self-hatred problem or something.
i think having people smoke is kind of a good thing...if it kills more people per day, we wont have all the overpopulation issues...
no, i keed. i hate smoking. not only that they need to release this ads, we also need to tax cigarettes heavily so we can actually make more money in the state in general.
What will happen if every tobacco and alcohol companies closed and stop paying taxes? Government will lose shit load of their income and stuff. Any way if the government want to save people from tobacco they just have to legalize pot which do not kill people!
@gongoozler18 Okay, so the political system in the US is very susceptible to corruption, I get that. But the fact remains that aspartame has a staggering amount of scientific literature supporting its safety, and "significant reports" is anicdotal evidence, which in science is worthless. Cenk tries to bullshit his way though science - it's transparent that he has no clue.
Don't get me wrong, these guys are my heroes. I love Cenk and Ana, which is why it's so frustrating when they mess up.
@G0lfYankee "But the fact remains that aspartame has a staggering amount of scientific literature supporting its safety, and "significant reports" is anicdotal evidence, which in science is worthless. "
Except, unfortunately major scientific results are often in favor of whoever can pay the said scientist loads of cash, fund vacations, or mansion...Not stating an opinion on aspartame, just in general (reg scientific research and the FDA etc).
Peer reviewed science is the closest thing to uncorruptable truth mankind will ever witness. It is, by definition, unbuyable. Science is a global collaboration. What you're suggesting, is a conspiracy theory involving hundreds of thousands of people all around the world, including myself. It's laughable.
Politicians can lie about the conclusions of scientists, sure, but don't you dare suggest researchers are in it for the money. That's just conjecture.
@G0lfYankee I'm glad you have faith in all scientific research, I don't because I know how easily it is for people, scientists or not, to become corrupt. As you said in another post, aspartame has 30 years of research, I don't deny that that shows great validity, but as I said I wasn't speaking of aspartame, in fact I'm not speaking of long-term research necessarily. I think it's def. possible to skew results in the short time. And I'm not talking about actual researchers, but the
@G0lfYankee corporations funding the research. I agree, the information in PEER REVIEWED journals are at a different level, but how many people know that? How many people know the difference between the information in a Peer Reviewed journal, and some random CNN article, which may or may not be written with an agenda at mind? Most people don't get their information from the scientists (or actual scientific journals)...and reg. the FDA, well the FDA does lie if it's in their favor. It's when
@G0lfYankee they think they might be caught, or when there's overwhelming evidence that they change their tune. And again, this isn't about the "safety of aspartame," I don't know enough about it, and I don't care to know. I have no use for artificial sweeteners or carbonated beverages. I try to stay away from "man made" ingredients, but that's just a personal preference. I'd rather eat an apple, than a store bough cake with artificial sweeteners, preservatives, and trans fats.
@G0lfYankee There is no safety regarding the consumption of aspartame, you dunce. And most of the ''scientific literature'' on aspartame is industry research and on independent research. There is independent research saying it is dangerous to health, but the FDA disregards these alarming studies to protect their commercial interest. Why is that EU and many other countries banned the sale of it?
Many countries label the products not to be used by pregnant women.
@gongoozler18 You are misinformed. I live in the EU. Aspartame is not banned here. It's found in hundreds of products. In fact, in 2002, the European Scientific Committee on Food reviewed over 500 papers on aspartame and maintained it's longstanding safety record. Most of the papers reviewed were intependent of the industry, from researchers all over the world.
@G0lfYankee You are misinformed. the EU did successfully ban aspartame years ago. On the European Common Market, now Aspartame is banned for all children's products. And I don't care what the ESCF says. I can form my own opinions, unlike you. And I'm not drinking that garbage because it gives my head aches and makes me light-headed. And I inform others about that nasty shit.
Most of the literature saying it is ''safe'' are industry-funded studies or ones affiliated with food manufacturers.
@gongoozler18 No, it isn't. I'm not sure how to more convincingly say "you're wrong". I can go to my kitchen right now and take a photo of a dozen children's foods that contain aspartame. I can pull a hundred intependently researched papers from the MEDLINE database and show you that every one of them agrees aspartame is perfectly safe.
But you're having none of that 'science' crap, right? Hell, they're probably all in on the aspartame conspiracy, along with the FDA, the FSC and the ESCF.
@gongoozler18 Haha. Oh, NOW I see where you're getting your information (yes, I can use Google). "Healingdaily", right? The site that attributes everything from gum disease to cancer on aspartame? And washing your ass out with coffee! Seriously.
If I wanted, I could find similar sites that claim AIDS is a conspiracy, germs aren't real and the sun revolves around the earth. Also, Hitler is alive.
Aspartame is not banned in EU countries, nor does it cause depression. gum disease (blah blah).
@G0lfYankee You can stop hastily researching all the information you should have known in the first place on the internet when you were fisrt telling me it is safe for everyone. It is not safe. the aspartame is obviously affecting your neurotransmitters leading to neurological symptoms & is affecting neuronal function.
Have fun getting cancer, lymphomas or leukaemia. You're already going to get osteoporosis, heart disease, cardiovascular disease, or osteoarthritis from eating dairy.
@gongoozler18 Okay that's enough. CV disease from eating dairy? Really? You're either trolling, or are completely illiterate in medicine. Either way, I think we're done here. I've tried to help you read papers properly, I've tried pointing out the dangers of using uncited source material, I was even going to point you in the direction of some interesting studies suggesting aspartame be phased out of use. But you clearly have no interest in real research, content with garbage like 'healingdaily'.
@G0lfYankee I don't have to give you a properly constructed bibliography you pasty-faced, anemic-looking, sickly nerd. I don't have the time or patience. This is youtube. And you can stop pretending you're some scientist. You just have a basic background in scene. where did you get this information? from some editorial or letter to the editor? You did, dummy. This isn't your own words. You swiftly surfed the web looking for a scientific review of the study I gave and modified it accordingly.
@G0lfYankee And you say dairy cannot cardiovascular disease, huh? Yes it can! If there is very strong, convincingly evidence that it can cause heart disease, why not cardiovascular too. You don't know the hell you're talking about. So, you can stop. The high saturated fat content can't contribute to significant amounts of bad cholesterol? the AJCN, Br J Nutr, etc. say it can greatly increase the risk of CVD.
You can't develop atherosclerosis even though 50+ years if research says it? Dairy=bad,
@gongoozler18 Like I said, we're done here. You've been drifting off into the realms of idiocy as our conversation has progressed. Linking 'dairy' to CVD is as moronic as linking 'drugs' to death. You have literally no idea what you're talking about. I have better things to be doing with my time.
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aztecman1000 1 week ago
OK, so smoking is bad for you. I don't understand how much more they want the tobacco companies to do! The truth is that our government allows the sale of a product which they know leads to cancer and all sorts of health problems. So who is the real guilty one here?
reymatt76 4 months ago
1n 1997, the oldest recorded person to live died. Her name was Jeanne Louise Calment and she smoked 1 cigarette per day after dinner. Moderate smoking is o.k. and smoking is known to be beneficial in digestion. Abuse of any kind is bad.
rusty1491 8 months ago
I'm glad weed is illegal , the tar levels are crazy , I think smoking anything is a stupid decision . I hate it when people advocate mar mar like it's the cure for everything , it has terrible negative effects on certain people , cigarettes are also retarded for different reasons , mostly additives
buknar456 9 months ago
Anti smoking groups love the word addiction. The want smokers to feel guilty as hell, hang this sign around there neck "adict". Why? Not to make them quit. They need a reason as to why 60 million adult Americans still chose to smoke, and thousands of adults and young adults begin smoking ever day. It's because there anti-tobacco ads FAILED. People understand the risk of tobacco smoke and make a discussion to still smoke. When they say addict, i don't buy it for a minuet.
RuneFinity44 11 months ago
@RuneFinity44 It's not just anti smoking groups who know nicotine is addictive. It's doctors. It's scientists. Nicotine is addictive, thus smoking tobacco is addictive. Don't be ignorant. Any 2 minute search online will tell you the truth. If not, talk to a health professional. It is an undeniable truth. You don't know, b/c you don't have to deal with helping nicotine addicts quit. You actually need to use pharmacologic interventions like Buproprion. Tobacco thrives off of ignorance.
aznfootwork 10 months ago
@aznfootwork
We know it's addictive. We still smoke. We still start smoking. We still ENJOY smoking. It's a hobbie, a out-lit, a social activity. It's many things besies just a addiction....
RuneFinity44 10 months ago
@aznfootwork Confused. I don't anyone who smokes that doesn't think tobacco is unhealthy. Who here goes to (insert fast food) thinking they're getting healthy food? I started smoking at 15 i think (I'll try anything twice). I also shun at the misuse/loose use of addiction. The "addicting" effects are no different than depriving someone of their morning coffee. It's habit, it's routine. You alter that regiment and red lights start flashing in your body. Everyone has their vises.
burneden 10 months ago
Drink Pepsi Instead Cenk....!
METALMAN4Wii 11 months ago
And yet still TOBACCO is LEGAL and MARIJUANA is not!! smfh, sad sad sad sad sad
Gunnz287 11 months ago
@Gunnz287 whys that sad. who cares
HiImafag23 4 months ago
To begin smoking, you're crazy to do so. WHy would you want to slowy kill yourself? Or become subserviant to a cancer stick. Why would you WANT to become an addict intentionally? I dont get it.
THere are tons of other ways to look cool.
Domzdream 11 months ago
@natyanayaki I appologise. I may have misinterpreted your comment. I don't mean to be condescending, but it's often difficult to communicate to the general public how science works and how it is often misrepresented by politics and the media without simplifying it to staggeringly basic terms. Perhaps comments are not a good way to approach it. Perhaps a channel would be better.
G0lfYankee 1 year ago
@G0lfYankee I do understand, I to am familiar with scientific research, science is my field, and I know that the vast majority of researchers are honest, and can't be bought out. But there are some corrupt individuals, and IMO, it's hard to get out information about a lot of things to society (like studies on BGH in milk, and how it affects US boys, and especially girls). It's why when finding information, especially on what's found in our food/drink, we can't rely just on the MSM's claims IMO
natyanayaki 1 year ago
We have all those facts posted on cigarette packs in Canada
ThanatosRW 1 year ago 3
I've said it once and I'll say it again, the only way to save democracy is to outlaw all private political contributions. Each party should get a fixed amount of public money to campaign on, and the networks should be forced to give them a certain amount of ad time each. That keeps everything fair. You can't contribute, I can't contribute, unions can't, the poor can't, the rich can't, corporations can't. A fixed portion of federal budget is given up to it, and that's it.
That's fair.
mw2000 1 year ago
@natyanayaki There is over 30 years of research on aspartame, which has produced hundreds of papers, conducted in dozens of countries, in several languages. There is zero evidence it is harmful to anyone except PKU patients.
Now, that doesn't mean there aren't better artificial sweetners out there, but aspartame is still harmless. Understand that "opinion" is worthless in science. Yours, Cenk's, mine - unless it's backed by data, it doesn't mean shit. And the data says SAFE.
G0lfYankee 1 year ago
@G0lfYankee Condescending much? When did I state and opinion? When did I say that opinion matters in (real, unadulterated) scientific research? NEVER. I'm not an idiot. Thanks for the rude, condescending lecture.
natyanayaki 1 year ago
aspartame is poison. i´m glad you speak about it. the artifical sugar suggests your pancreas to produce insulin and your blood sugar level drops deep...so you feel hungry, your stomach wants carbohydrates..
apart from that aspartame is proved to have malevolent effects to your eyes, ears, vestibular sense and your overall well-being. another major effect, making the dentist happy,is tooth decay. would make sense that those arent side-effects, but the effects rumsfeld wanted in the first place.
thefredd 1 year ago
Just as long as there's no more of these stupid hippy "Tabacco companies manufacture death!" idiotic ads.
CommandoDude 1 year ago
i think most smokers (myself being an ex-smoker) are aware of the risks, that being the case it seems that every one against smoking just assumes all smokers are ignorant to the risks , if people want to use tobacco they should, if not than they should not.
epicblogofdoom 1 year ago
@epicblogofdoom I agree with you on the risk assessment point. But I think that the aim at releasing these facts is to stop new smokers from coming in or something, or whatever.
But in my opinion whats more important is that this sets the stage for big companies to be more transparent about their bullshit. And also it paves the way for legalization of narcotics, which I'm in favor of.
blacklite911 1 year ago
@OriginalFroggyStyle even if it would be only 6000 years old, they would probably say; Well, after 6000 years, there should be MORE than enough oil!!
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maybe they should be educated in geology first..
cwongchung 1 year ago
That is why you should legalize....
fonkymaster 1 year ago 17
I read this title as "Big Taco"
Nulono 1 year ago
@Nulono HAHAHA for a second I saw taco too HAHAHA.
htimSsalohciN 1 year ago
@OriginalFroggyStyle how does the run out, was there loads of trees turning into oil over the years and then there wasnt, shouldnt it work like a compost heap, it gets filled back up?
jackvincent90 1 year ago
This story is rather funny. They talk about how education enlightened people to dislike cigs and is leading to that being a way to get out of these strong holds. Can you imagine for a second a school teaching about how bad oil is for our environment while driving kids to school on an oil bus? or teaching about how bottled water is destroying our environment while selling it from a vending machine?
bluefootedpig 1 year ago
aspartame is shit from a particular type of bacteria, it makes you hungrier and it makes you retain weight, which seems odd now that i mention it :D
blakebutters1 1 year ago
@blakebutters1 Aspartame produces 4kilocalories per gram. Considering the quantity used to give a sweet taste, the caloric contribution is pretty much zero. And where have you ever read that it is shit from some type of bacteria? That sounds ridiculous.
LtShock 1 year ago
@LtShock thats not accurate? one of my freinds told me, hes usually pretty accurate. whatever thanks for the re-informating.
blakebutters1 1 year ago
What is ironic is that tobacco was the first successful crop coming out of the North American colonies
motelcalifornia 1 year ago
@motelcalifornia you sure it wasn't hemp? i could be wrong, but i know hemp was huge back in the day.
bluefootedpig 1 year ago
@bluefootedpig Hemp is used to make ropes. Tobacco and, later, rice were the two crops that made the colonies worth anything.
motelcalifornia 1 year ago
Big Tobacco funded truth.com ... old news, lol.
DeSadeM 1 year ago
How can a mufucka blame the tobacco company for killin them when theiy're the ones buying and smoking the cigarettes. STOP blaming others for your dumbass mistakes! Fuckin sad!
datniggami7 1 year ago
@datniggami7 lawsuit started years ago, not today, about lies said years ago which did effect peoples perceptions of tobacco.
Example, If I sold a pill as perfectly safe, but yet killed the person upon indigestion, could I not use your argument as a defense? "He's the one that took the muthafuckin pill" ... eh? I think not. Years in the past Tobacco companies new it was bad for peoples health yet said the exact opposite, which did make think it was safe to smoke, when, if the truth was said...
Lastknownuser 1 year ago
@Lastknownuser Just because the say the pills are safe doesn't mean that it is for everyone. Look...It's common fuckin sense to know that if you smoke anything, it's polluting the inside of ur body....Smoke is NOT suppose to be ingested....PERIOD! I smoke weed n use tabacco products to smoke the shit....but I would NEVER blame anyone else for my actions! If muthafuckas wanna smoke, then they have to deal with the consequences! Point blank!
datniggami7 1 year ago
@datniggami7 You're being too black and white. This was not "common sense" as you put it as there was no reason to believe these products were harmful just by looking at them, despite what you say; you're only certain of their harmful effects from years of exposes and publicized court cases. Should people blame it all on the companies? No, they can quit anytime, but you can't excuse the companies for outright selling poison to the populace either. The blame goes both ways.
RecklessYouth333 1 year ago
@RecklessYouth333 Yea...we're poisoned by just living! Everything's bad for you these days.
datniggami7 1 year ago
@datniggami7 Yea, Now it is completely known that smoking is harmful, but there were times in the past, where companies were telling people smoking was fine and dandy, and paid millions of dollars in order to crush any study that said otherwise, therefore, The common sense of the time was that smoking was perfectly fine.
The court is just making the companies admit publicly through ad's as a way of a fine for the years before it was common sense that smoking was bad for you.
Lastknownuser 1 year ago
@Lastknownuser And that we can both agree on. Well said.
datniggami7 1 year ago
I wonder if they'll ever go after Big Sugar, considering sugar and HFCS is in most everything we eat.
LokianGOP 1 year ago
Why hasn't a law pass by voters that would prohibit elected US politicans from taking money from companies? How could voters let children who don't smoke suffer from dangerous companies like tobacco industries, but prohitbit legalizing pot for so long?
sholmesful 1 year ago
@sholmesful
Since when do citizens vote on federal legislation?
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
@AmericanNohbuddy I understand that federal legislation is something that is enacted by Congress, but I think that there is sufficient evidence to support that congress has abuse their powers against the true will of the people. Therefore, the people should be given the power to better affect the ruling over federal legislation. How long has it been since your input affected an opinion poll that’s connected to legislation?
sholmesful 1 year ago
@sholmesful
No people shouldn't. There is a reason why the founders hated direct democracy.
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
@AmericanNohbuddy What was the reason why the founders hated direct democracy? Why must the need of few, always out way the needs of the many?
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
Democracy is like two wolves and a lamb deciding on what to have for lunch.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy Who are the wolves, and who are the lambs?
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
It doesn't matter. That is the point of the saying. The majority would always destroy the minority. You want your rights voted away?
Look up the founders' quotes on democracy.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy I probably haven't done as much as others who've fought honorable for their rights, but I wouldn't want my rights taken from me. However, your statement about the founders hating democracy confuses me. Are you refering to the founders violating the rights of black people by making slavery legal?
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful No. I'm talking about their actual opinions on democracy.
Benjamin Franklin: "When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic."
Thomas Jefferson: "A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where 51% of the people may take away the rights of the other 49%."
Look this stuff up for yourself. They wanted a REPUBLIC.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy Thomas Jefferson also said, “A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both, and deserve neither” back in his early years. Does this quote mean that we live in orderless society due to our liberty?
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
No it doesn't. It means if you give up liberty for safety, you don't deserve either and will lose both.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy That quote did'nt have the word safety in it. Do you realize that people give up their safety all time to protect the liberties of others? The people who put their safety on the line are cops like the ones in Wisconsin who are harrassing protesters for protesting against Scott Walker and U.S. military officers fighting overseas.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
Order/safety same shit. Yes and they are stupid to give up their liberty. Like the patriot act is a great example. You sacrifice the 4th amendment to "protect" the people of the country, even though it gives the government the right to wire tap you and search you.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy I don't believe anyone should have the right to break into people's privacy, just like I don't believe people should be questioning other people about their sex life to find out who's homosexual. However, without having people willing to sacrifice their liberty you can't have a country of liberty. If you check your history books you would see that the US was built by people who sacrificed their liberty for it.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful "However, without having people willing to sacrifice their liberty you can't have a country of liberty" you do realize how big of a contradiction that is, right? Look up what "liberty" means.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy The defintion of Liberty is political freedom, but the fact it that the freedom this country provides came at a cost. The US became a free country not by having political debates like we are having, Liberty in America was achieved by blood.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
That point is moot. What does obtaining a country by winning a war have anything to do with giving up freedoms for "safety" when that very legislation can and will bite you in the ass?
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy Hey, I'm not saying that this country we live in is perfect, but no one ever said legislation was about freedom. Legislation is about laws that govern the men and woman of this country. Now you could make the arguement that the laws in this country seem to always favor the very rich causing a hinderance on freedom which in some cases you would be correct. However, at least you have the freedom in this country to make your arguements.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
And various laws restrict or take away certain freedoms.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy Even you have to admit that we've come a long way since the restrictions of the past. For example, it use to be a law that black people and white people could not marry.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
That's completely different. I'm talking about getting rid of the 4th amendment like I said earlier. Or having congress not declare war, or even approve of military action.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy I did a search on the 4th Amendment twice, and my findings show that it was created to guard against unreasonable searches and seizures. How does the 4th Amendment relate to military action in your points? Also, did you have personal issues with unlawful searches?
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
You can't read comments. Notice that statement ends with a period, then another starts with "Or.." in reference to another point that is unconstitutional.
I don't even know what you're arguing about.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy You and I was discussing the price of freedom, but I got loss when you brought up the 4th Amendment. I thought maybe you might be the victim of an unresonable search and seizure.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
Just because I wasn't a victim of unreasonable search and seizure doesn't mean it's OK for anyone else to.
You shouldn't give up any freedom period. Give them an inch and they take a mile.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy Correct! To quote a phase, "freedom is the right of all sentient beings," told out of an old TV show. However, we shouldn't play God by telling people they should or should not give up their freedoms for patriotic reasons.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful Quoting Transformers.....
"However, we shouldn't play God by telling people they should or should not give up their freedoms for patriotic reasons."
Yes we shouldn't tell them that giving up their freedoms is a BAD thing. And giving up a freedom isn't patriotic.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy Agreed! However, the issue on whether or not it’s patriotic to sacrifice freedom depends on the circumstances of each case. And yes I was quoting Transformers, but please don’t judge me as immature.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful It doesn't matter on what case. There is no reason to give up your right to free speech, to give up your 4th amendment rights, to give up your right to a trial by jury, etc.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
Keep an open mind. Juan Williams of Fox News got fired from an old job because he said something that violated his contract. Now you might say that he has the freedom of speech to say anything he wants, but when you sign a contract that prohibits you from saying certain things you are bound to that contract. When people go work they give up their freedoms to get paid. If a contract is violated or rules are broken there is a consequence.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
That is a contract with a private company which says you follow their guidelines. You agreed to it when you signed it, so you follow it and are held accountable. An NPR correspondent getting fired is hardly like a newspaper being banned from saying something, or saying a certain group can't voice their mind when it's a negative opinion of the government.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy I never said that at any point that an opinion can’t be voiced. Even in a country ruled by a dictator, a person could voice their opinion, but there are consequences both intended and unintended when an opinion is spoken.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
Free speech means there are no consequences. Especially in public or whatever you print. You can't give me any justifiable reason to get rid of any rights. Because there are none.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy Since when did I talk about taking rights away? My point was that there are consequences to what you do or say. For example, you’re writing your opinions, and the consequence is that I'm challenging you. I'm challenging your opinion. My points reflect cause and effect.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful
If you look at all of your comments, you've been talking about giving up rights for safety.
"However, without having people willing to sacrifice their liberty you can't have a country of liberty"
You said that.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy To make a sacrifice for ones country by putting on a soldier’s uniform is different from giving up rights. You should be careful, someone else my think you're denigrating US troops.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@sholmesful What? I never said anything about being a soldier. You willingly join the army. You said you should give up liberty for safety in your comments. That is something you shouldn't do at all. You can not justify that.
AmericanNohbuddy 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy I apologize for the typo. I said "my" when I really wanted to use "might" in my above statement. I know you did not mention soldier, but I felt your comments affects the soldiers, cops, firefighters or any American who put their lives on the line for their job. Remember, the Declaration of Independents which guaranteed Americans life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness was written after American lives were lost in the battle with the British for a fight over liberty.
sholmesful 11 months ago
@AmericanNohbuddy What was the reason why the founders hated direct democracy? Why must the need of few, always out weight the needs of the many?
sholmesful 11 months ago
Is Go To Meeting as easy as Ana?
;D
Randomambusher 1 year ago
all they are gonna do is put up the taxes on it making poor people poorer
rollerpodger 1 year ago
why dont they just legalize weed... amsterdam is fine so fuck it legalize the herb vote up if you agree
spilknoob 1 year ago
Regarding aspertame, look a little further, Cenk. It also effects the nervous system AND test results that were negative were left out of the presentation to FDA. MANY people have become sick and DIED as a direct result of using it. Now they are doing the same thing with High Fructose Corn Syrup. FDA is considering allowing corporations that use HFCS because it's cheaper than table sugar, to just change the name to "Corn Sugar". HFCS is a major cause of obesity in children.
weslenforever 1 year ago
Cigarettes kill 1,200 a day and marijuana hasn't killed 1,200 in the entire history of the world yet it's illegal and tobacco is not. Kooky. I hope Boehner has a Hinckley Jr. waiting for him somewhere.
TheUSMetalhead 1 year ago
How can someone be a proponent of decriminalizing drugs, and at the same time an anti-tobacco advocate? There is a disconnect here that boggles the mind.
UtubeMyAccountName 1 year ago
I have plenty of friends who smoke. They're so addicted it's not even funny. Some chain smoke like crazy!
evanWith7 1 year ago
how the fuck that tobacooo is legal , and its the number one killer in america. and pot kills no one. the goverment is so fucking dumb! WAKE THE FUCK UP
kevd3v 1 year ago
2 people die every second anyway, that's 172800 people a day. Stop polluting the fucking air with your factories and toxicities first, and then go and look out for smokers, dammit.
Just8eatit 1 year ago
So fucking glad I quit smoking so I could stop giving those assholes money.
DoggyHateFire 1 year ago
nobody forces anybody to smoke, and nobody will stop anybody from quitting. if you smoke cigarettes and get cancer, you need to shut the fuck up and live with the consequences of your decision. if by now, 2011, you smoke cigarettes and don't know that it is a dangerous habit, you are too stupid to be walking the earth and this planet will be better off once you die
jumar1281 1 year ago
For those who wonder: independent studies show that aspartame is safe in any humanly reasonable dosage (i.e. less than, like, a swimming pool of diet soda in one sitting). So, you can drink diet soda quite safely. Worry more about other life affecting aspects of your diet, like caloric intake vs. output, smoking, and just getting the hell off your ass. That's where you'll get most bang for your buck in terms of life expectancy.
smaakjeks 1 year ago
Wait, smoking is BAD for me???
smaakjeks 1 year ago
Get over it. We all no smoking is bad. So what. How much tax payer money was waited on this nonsense. Secondly. Were would the money come for if there wasn't a tax on tobacco. This is madness pure madness. What a waist of time.
Richardisdorky 1 year ago
I guess big tobacco didnt pay enough to the government.
papasparks2009 1 year ago
Why does the government feel they have the right to force any company to pay for ads? Completely unconstitutional. This is why government needs to be shrunk and shown who is the boss.
pennjersey83 1 year ago
@pennjersey83
Because they deliberately lied and mislead people about their product.
AmericanNohbuddy 1 year ago
Why can't you go to jail for doing some shit like that what Boner did.
Dayonetheone 1 year ago
1200 Americans die everyday from smoking--how many die from gunshots?
philipsidney 1 year ago
Fucking hell, is this really necessary? If you don't know that tobacco isn't healthy for you by now then you are beyond dense. I smoke, I know it's not in the best interest of my health, but I enjoy doing it and I'm not addicted in any way. 14 statements aren't gonna change my mind, 14,000 statements won't change my mind. Tobacco is in the crosshairs while the real criminals like big corporations and the oil companies belong there. Just like Cenk said, political influence is everything.
MountHappy 1 year ago
@MountHappy Re: "I smoke, I know it's not in the best interest of my health, but I enjoy doing it and I'm not addicted in any way. 14 statements aren't gonna change my mind, 14,000 statements won't change my mind."
But you're not addicted?!
I knew a guy once who wasn't an alcoholic--the only reason he drank was to make the little white spots go away.
philipsidney 1 year ago
@philipsidney I'm a recreational smoker, as in: I smoke for enjoyment, not because I have to or have any cravings. I've smoked for a year, took a year off, then started up again for about 6 months, then didn't have one for roughly 3 months - I bounce around.
MountHappy 1 year ago
Tobacco company got replaced by Oil Company and Wall mart...
EckoStream 1 year ago
tobacco causes cancer. There's your fucking warning morons
FireItUp13 1 year ago
at the end Cenk sound little like Alex Jones...I am just saying:D
orchoose 1 year ago
I think it's sad that any company had political power. Companies are not people, they should never have been allowed to control our politics.
qwertyuiopaaaaaaa7 1 year ago
Tobacco is completely harmless. Grandma has smoked for 68 years and she's fine.
sigurjong 1 year ago
@sigurjong Mind you, grandpa's dead...
philipsidney 1 year ago
Tobacco is shit. It's strange to me that tobacco and alcohol that kill millions around the globe are legal and you can buy as much as you want, but as for a plant (Cannabis) which is not addictive and can't kill you...nah you can't have that says the wanker governments. We live in a very backward and corrupt world. You can get stoned if you eat a lot of the spice ginger, so should they make ginger illegal? Oh the hypocrisy alone will blow your mind.
Forceofhabbit 1 year ago
@Forceofhabbit Where did you read that weed isn't addictive?
SocialDissimulation 1 year ago
Cenk is growing up
venyusz01 1 year ago
@venyusz01 So True.
Oen713 1 year ago
Rofl. Jeff Wigand proved this years ago. Amazing how they still are beating around the bush on this.
saiyru14 1 year ago
The TYT army is too large, it is too strong
dorkydevil 1 year ago
Take the greed out of the game and logic in law and governance would evolve, until that time it is 'the land of the greed and home of the slave', greed is still needed but should never be a guiding factor in life, more of a self preserving thought to help justify wants and needs for personal progress.
taetoe1 1 year ago
@GJNCA absolutely!!!!
lisamaria1972 1 year ago
Watch Thank You For Smoking to learn everything you need to know about how politics works.
Big tabaco lost it's grip, but not the politicians who acted as shills for that industry who were untouched to adopt new special interest.
TruthAndMoreTruth 1 year ago
2:16 "..maybe this will happen to the oil companies.." Interestingly the people and think tanks who run campaigns for the tobacco industry are usually active in the climate change denial campaign as well.
e.g: Fred Singer, Fred Seitz, Marshall Institute, Alexis de Tocqueville Institution, Competitive Enterprise Institute, Heartland Institute, Institute of Public Affairs (Australia), Cato Institute, National Center for Policy Analysis, Fraser Institute..
and many more I can't fit in.
cristop5 1 year ago
This planet is over populated anyway. If people still decide to smoke even after learning about the negative effects of cigarettes/tobacco, then let them voluntarily die early. More resources and spaces left for us non-smokers.
Piranha7x5 1 year ago
Wait, there are people who DONT know that smoking is bad for you?
philosophermike 1 year ago
@Squeenix91 he IS her boss
oeufgwoieu 1 year ago
@Squeenix91
She knows who wears the pants.
jman451 1 year ago
Yeah we can go after tobacco. We can't go after TSA, The Bush Administration, Constitutional infringement, Air quality control, Water pollution, Lobbyists, nor the damn Taliban.
But yeah we can stop you from sucking cancer sticks... oh wait.
PersonalJesus348 1 year ago 3
smoking kills 1,200 per day
9/11 killed 3,000
9/11 = 2.5 days of smoking.
stupid americans
t6gear 1 year ago 11
@t6gear Oh really? You actually think that only Americans smoke?? Are you saying All Canadians don't smoke at all??? Also, If you think Americans are stupid why would you bring up 9/11 like you cared or something... Typical Hypocrite...
ChameleonLost88 1 year ago
@t6gear And yet there are about 1,800 abortions each day. So that is < 2 days.
bluefootedpig 1 year ago
@t6gear Abortion kills 3700-4400 per day.
Nulono 1 year ago
@Nulono You're right, that's not nearly enough abortions. I'm glad we're on the same page.
jotunobsidianeyes 1 year ago
@Nulono So your point is that abortions should be banned? So these little kids can grow up unwanted and end up on the streets, selling drugs and raping women, therefore repeating the process?
chemochance 1 year ago
@t6gear But to Americans 9/11 was worse because it involved the evil MUSLIMS AHHHHHHHHHHHH MUSLIMS!!!!
htimSsalohciN 1 year ago
Dude, I'll smoke, i'll cough, i'll get cancer, i'll die. Deal? stay the fuck out of my business.
MegaRammstein7 1 year ago
@MegaRammstein7 If you make sure all the smoke stays in your own lungs then we have a deal. Otherwise you're polluting the atmosphere and putting everyone's health at risk so you can fuck off.
HerbertHKohl 1 year ago 2
@HerbertHKohl strong troll is strong
damlurker 1 year ago
@HerbertHKohl Oh dear, I'm sorry. I'll quit smoking right now just for you. :)
MegaRammstein7 11 months ago
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@MegaRammstein7 Joke all you want, but you know I'm right.
HerbertHKohl 11 months ago
@HerbertHKohl You soooo are. I just hate those smokers that blow smoke in your face and smell so nasty. Good thing I'm not one. You wanna know why? Because I smoke. It calms me down and makes me more docile and personable. It makes me not want to hit someone in the face with something heavy or just be a down-right bastard to people. Look, you're not gonna get me, or anyone else to quit so you should just quit while you're ahead.
MegaRammstein7 11 months ago
@HerbertHKohl You soooo are. I just hate those smokers that blow smoke in your face and smell so nasty. Good thing I'm not one. You wanna know why? Because I smoke. It calms me down and makes me more docile and personable. It makes me not want to hit someone in the face with something heavy or just be a down-right bastard to people. Look, you're not gonna get me, or anyone else to quit so you should just quit while you're ahead.
MegaRammstein7 11 months ago
@MegaRammstein7 We still have a misunderstanding. I don't care about you or anything you do in your life. I just wanted to point out that the argument of your original comment was wrong and that you're an asshole.
HerbertHKohl 11 months ago
@HerbertHKohl I fail to see how I'm the asshole when I've been fairly civil and not called anyone a single name.
MegaRammstein7 11 months ago
@MegaRammstein7 You're just really self-centered, and you think your life can't be complete without sucking ash into your lungs. If you are one of those rare smokers that doesn't smoke around other people then I suppose that counts in your favor, but smoking is still bad for the environment and it seems like you have a self-hatred problem or something.
HerbertHKohl 11 months ago
@HerbertHKohl Hahaha you're funny :)
MegaRammstein7 11 months ago
you know why I don't drink Diet coke? because it sucks, regular coke taste far better hell Pepsi taste better.
thewalrus45 1 year ago 2
i think having people smoke is kind of a good thing...if it kills more people per day, we wont have all the overpopulation issues...
no, i keed. i hate smoking. not only that they need to release this ads, we also need to tax cigarettes heavily so we can actually make more money in the state in general.
houchi69 1 year ago
What will happen if every tobacco and alcohol companies closed and stop paying taxes? Government will lose shit load of their income and stuff. Any way if the government want to save people from tobacco they just have to legalize pot which do not kill people!
hitvish 1 year ago 2
Canada forces cigarette companies to post massive pictures on the cigarette boxes saying "this will kill you".
Andy180084 1 year ago
@gongoozler18 Okay, so the political system in the US is very susceptible to corruption, I get that. But the fact remains that aspartame has a staggering amount of scientific literature supporting its safety, and "significant reports" is anicdotal evidence, which in science is worthless. Cenk tries to bullshit his way though science - it's transparent that he has no clue.
Don't get me wrong, these guys are my heroes. I love Cenk and Ana, which is why it's so frustrating when they mess up.
G0lfYankee 1 year ago 5
@G0lfYankee "But the fact remains that aspartame has a staggering amount of scientific literature supporting its safety, and "significant reports" is anicdotal evidence, which in science is worthless. "
Except, unfortunately major scientific results are often in favor of whoever can pay the said scientist loads of cash, fund vacations, or mansion...Not stating an opinion on aspartame, just in general (reg scientific research and the FDA etc).
natyanayaki 1 year ago
@natyanayaki BULL. SHIT.
Peer reviewed science is the closest thing to uncorruptable truth mankind will ever witness. It is, by definition, unbuyable. Science is a global collaboration. What you're suggesting, is a conspiracy theory involving hundreds of thousands of people all around the world, including myself. It's laughable.
Politicians can lie about the conclusions of scientists, sure, but don't you dare suggest researchers are in it for the money. That's just conjecture.
G0lfYankee 1 year ago 10
@G0lfYankee I'm glad you have faith in all scientific research, I don't because I know how easily it is for people, scientists or not, to become corrupt. As you said in another post, aspartame has 30 years of research, I don't deny that that shows great validity, but as I said I wasn't speaking of aspartame, in fact I'm not speaking of long-term research necessarily. I think it's def. possible to skew results in the short time. And I'm not talking about actual researchers, but the
natyanayaki 1 year ago
@G0lfYankee corporations funding the research. I agree, the information in PEER REVIEWED journals are at a different level, but how many people know that? How many people know the difference between the information in a Peer Reviewed journal, and some random CNN article, which may or may not be written with an agenda at mind? Most people don't get their information from the scientists (or actual scientific journals)...and reg. the FDA, well the FDA does lie if it's in their favor. It's when
natyanayaki 1 year ago
@G0lfYankee they think they might be caught, or when there's overwhelming evidence that they change their tune. And again, this isn't about the "safety of aspartame," I don't know enough about it, and I don't care to know. I have no use for artificial sweeteners or carbonated beverages. I try to stay away from "man made" ingredients, but that's just a personal preference. I'd rather eat an apple, than a store bough cake with artificial sweeteners, preservatives, and trans fats.
natyanayaki 1 year ago
@G0lfYankee There is no safety regarding the consumption of aspartame, you dunce. And most of the ''scientific literature'' on aspartame is industry research and on independent research. There is independent research saying it is dangerous to health, but the FDA disregards these alarming studies to protect their commercial interest. Why is that EU and many other countries banned the sale of it?
Many countries label the products not to be used by pregnant women.
gongoozler18 11 months ago
@gongoozler18 You are misinformed. I live in the EU. Aspartame is not banned here. It's found in hundreds of products. In fact, in 2002, the European Scientific Committee on Food reviewed over 500 papers on aspartame and maintained it's longstanding safety record. Most of the papers reviewed were intependent of the industry, from researchers all over the world.
You can't bullshit a scientist on science.
G0lfYankee 11 months ago
@G0lfYankee You are misinformed. the EU did successfully ban aspartame years ago. On the European Common Market, now Aspartame is banned for all children's products. And I don't care what the ESCF says. I can form my own opinions, unlike you. And I'm not drinking that garbage because it gives my head aches and makes me light-headed. And I inform others about that nasty shit.
Most of the literature saying it is ''safe'' are industry-funded studies or ones affiliated with food manufacturers.
gongoozler18 11 months ago
@gongoozler18 No, it isn't. I'm not sure how to more convincingly say "you're wrong". I can go to my kitchen right now and take a photo of a dozen children's foods that contain aspartame. I can pull a hundred intependently researched papers from the MEDLINE database and show you that every one of them agrees aspartame is perfectly safe.
But you're having none of that 'science' crap, right? Hell, they're probably all in on the aspartame conspiracy, along with the FDA, the FSC and the ESCF.
G0lfYankee 11 months ago
@gongoozler18 Haha. Oh, NOW I see where you're getting your information (yes, I can use Google). "Healingdaily", right? The site that attributes everything from gum disease to cancer on aspartame? And washing your ass out with coffee! Seriously.
If I wanted, I could find similar sites that claim AIDS is a conspiracy, germs aren't real and the sun revolves around the earth. Also, Hitler is alive.
Aspartame is not banned in EU countries, nor does it cause depression. gum disease (blah blah).
G0lfYankee 11 months ago
@G0lfYankee You can stop hastily researching all the information you should have known in the first place on the internet when you were fisrt telling me it is safe for everyone. It is not safe. the aspartame is obviously affecting your neurotransmitters leading to neurological symptoms & is affecting neuronal function.
Have fun getting cancer, lymphomas or leukaemia. You're already going to get osteoporosis, heart disease, cardiovascular disease, or osteoarthritis from eating dairy.
gongoozler18 11 months ago
@gongoozler18 Okay that's enough. CV disease from eating dairy? Really? You're either trolling, or are completely illiterate in medicine. Either way, I think we're done here. I've tried to help you read papers properly, I've tried pointing out the dangers of using uncited source material, I was even going to point you in the direction of some interesting studies suggesting aspartame be phased out of use. But you clearly have no interest in real research, content with garbage like 'healingdaily'.
G0lfYankee 11 months ago
@G0lfYankee I don't have to give you a properly constructed bibliography you pasty-faced, anemic-looking, sickly nerd. I don't have the time or patience. This is youtube. And you can stop pretending you're some scientist. You just have a basic background in scene. where did you get this information? from some editorial or letter to the editor? You did, dummy. This isn't your own words. You swiftly surfed the web looking for a scientific review of the study I gave and modified it accordingly.
gongoozler18 11 months ago
@gongoozler18 I read the paper, moron.
G0lfYankee 11 months ago
@G0lfYankee And you say dairy cannot cardiovascular disease, huh? Yes it can! If there is very strong, convincingly evidence that it can cause heart disease, why not cardiovascular too. You don't know the hell you're talking about. So, you can stop. The high saturated fat content can't contribute to significant amounts of bad cholesterol? the AJCN, Br J Nutr, etc. say it can greatly increase the risk of CVD.
You can't develop atherosclerosis even though 50+ years if research says it? Dairy=bad,
gongoozler18 11 months ago
@gongoozler18 Like I said, we're done here. You've been drifting off into the realms of idiocy as our conversation has progressed. Linking 'dairy' to CVD is as moronic as linking 'drugs' to death. You have literally no idea what you're talking about. I have better things to be doing with my time.
G0lfYankee 11 months ago