I am sick of IRS takin 30% of my money that I have to work my ass off making and then coming around and saying they beleive I made a mistake in 2002 and didnt pay enough and now I owe them penalties and interest then I have to hire tax attorney just to find out they were wrong I AM SICK OF IT!!!!!!!
FYI: -USA's Citizen-patriots salute this brave flying-hero mr.Joe'Stack, having taken decisive tactical-action against domestic enemy known as IRS-henchmen agents of criminal Fed.Reserve Bank'ster-mafia, and their ADL-propagandist, --instigated by the warmongering jewZionist on 23/Dec./1913 --a day which shall live in infamy! Their insidious infiltration permeates all of USA's Governmental-agencies; --whereby they are trampling upon our usConstitutional-rights and Fraud'closing our homes..!!!
Everyone knows that organized crime exists and everyone knows who's in it. That doesn't stop the hoods from stealing and killing. What DOES stop the heads are hits that come from within. But the dead only get replaced. So the question is... how do you get rid of organized crime? Everyone has to pounce down on everyone that's in organized crime, at the same time, which will NEVER happen. When the mob wants to reorganize... they kill people that are in their way... all at once.
I mean, I am not saying you're all wrong, but still you must understand that the government SHOULD have all those things to uphold (which wouldn't be painstaking for them to stand up and actually do). Sure, we are all responsible for ourselves, but they must also be responsible for us. We fight their wars, we police their cities. And in return, they give us the shaft. My opinion.
That's WHY people oppose the state. They know exactly how the state is. The main reason they oppose them is because they are opposing them for being liars, thieves, destructive... The fact that you brought up his family issues is stupid, unless you are a psychologist who has actually put a lot of study into his personality and social activity prior to his acts. Absurd.
This is always so funny to watch, people calling others wrong for things they do, all while making some false mental evaluations to prove a "point". Fact of the matter is, we are all guilty of so much. And nobody ever actually listens to any of these people. You guys all live in some fantasy land where everything is supposed to be "alright". You play your video games and watch movies and are blind. You all commit murder, famine, and destruction like anyone else. Get over yourselves.
@Boozebegood i think the man of the year highlights the person who made the biggest impact on the world in any given year. Not necceasarily the man who did the most charity work.
@fps0chris My point is just because hes is leader and effective doesn't mean he can't be evil IE... well also most any US leader since kk Fill in blank _____
Jospeh Stack RIP. He may have been misguided but at least he showed some true emotion and got stuck in. Maybe he should have focussed on one person instead of a building? These public servants get away with murder with their non-accountability.
You are an immoral ass making a connection to Mr. Stack's actions and your psychological and growing up conclusions, as the most valued people in the US such as corporate leaders and US presidents have murdered and continue to murder millions of innocent people in their attempts at stealing other countries resources and wealth, are wrong as the most valued US citizens have had just the oppostie up bringing. So, wrong that you dont even see that Stack's actions are morally justified.
HE NEEDED A BIGGER PLANE WITH A COUPLE FIRE CRACKERS YA KNOW FOR A LITTLE BANG. THE GOV, IS A FUCKING THIEF THE GOV, IS NOT YOUR FRIEND THE GOV HAS ENSALVED YOU FOR ETERNITY. THE GOV WILL MAKE YOU SEND YOUR CHILD TO HIS/HER DEATH FOR A LIE WAR LETTERS WILL DO NOTHING THEY DO NOT READ THAT THEY COUNT YOUR HOURLY PAY AND SPEND IT NOW 30 YEARS AHEAD OF YOUR DEATH. THE GOV IS INTERESTED IN TAKING YOUR PROPERTY AND YES WEARE 4x TAXED AS IT IS FREEDOMS ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME U ARE MAD
@Dubstepblast except uh...bill o reily lies. CONSTANTLY. Almost every other sentence is an outright lie. And of the remaining 50%, 49% are half-truths. Bill O reily is a parasite on the movement for smaller government. He just likes to get paid his millions from fox for inciting redneck hicks. Everything mk7mk77 said is true. Nothing o reily says is true. Think man, think for yourself! I almost think oreily was planted by the elite to keep intelligent people AWAY from that point of view.
@andyissemicool everything he said is true though. He makes the SAME EXACT points as stef in his videos, only an order of magnitude less eloquently. It hurts me, physically and emotionally, to see somebody like you bound in a cage. You can't escape the cages you don't see. It hurts me to see you dismiss his comment as a mad rant, when everything he said is spot on. You don't have free choice. You have owners. George Carlin was right. RIP.
Sorry stefbot, but your views on this subject are totally wrong, and wrong in so many different ways. Before watching this video I thought you were a genius from watching some of your other videos. Now I'm not sure what to think. I don't understand how you can not see how your reasoning is so flawed in this video. All I see is pathetic reasoning being used in trying to discredit Joe Stack and his actions, which leads me to wonder why, because by doing so you only discredited yourself.
@aimeechrister He did explain the reasons for his views, whereas you didn't in the least. Your comment sounds like one kid calling another kid a "foo-foo head." That makes you look really dumb, doesn't it?
Joe Stack was a Patriot, killing Innocents is a mistake, however he is right about our government, this video is a sad attempt to discredit a man for mental illness. The State you make reference to shouldn't exist we are States in a Union a contract. The central government is suppose to serve the Union not the other way around.
The constitution is man government and god is his reasoning(religion).NOTHING ELSE MATTER.The deception is hidden within the gods of government. Man must Protect him self from the government, since he pose no physical tool of protect at birth,but could this power be harness with intelligences?.Joe, eat the fruit from the serpent tree(IRA codes).Taxation is usury and usury is the fruit man eat from .government is the serpent tree and the serpent are the member of every branch of tree.
i dont think you have the right vision on this guy stack...he knew whats up with the government and the irs..you think he crashed a plane into a building because he relied on the government to protect him?? no...he did it because he knows the government is corrupt....man had been fuked up the ass by the irs just like many people do...i dont really agree with this guy..comparing the government to the mafia and basically saying theres nothing for us to do but write letters and make phone call lmao
the analogy is poor but better than most i hear, his argument is true though about fighting evil with evil (bad idea). Your undermining the point of the video because of insignificant discrepancies.
@jhaze918 I'm a Constitutionalist, but I do have some problems with the Founding Fathers, in that they were happy to legalize slavery and kill innocent indian civilians. They were not perfect by a long shot.
Excellent monologue on why violent overthrow will not stop a violent government. Is this why the government so desires all those who oppose it to be violent terrorists? Indeed we are pre-philosophy. Thank you Steph.
sean hannity"s real name is mr. monkey crap! RIGHT WING , LEFT WING, MEDIA So lets say the average income is $39,000.00 of all people in this country. So 250,000,000 times $19,000.000.00 is $4750000000000.00 every year. Not including the money the government gets from other countries WAKE UP
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our neighbors kids go to die and steal oil, we want to pay 1.00 per gallon of gas .
no healthcare for politicians, till healthcare and meds. are NON- profit
Anyone that thinks they are going to start some kind of new civil war is an idiot. The F.B.I. will be all over you before you can gather up five other strychnine-swilling snake handlers, and one of their cousins will have a big, drunk mouth anyway. Rooting out carnies that think they're going to establish some new kind of America will be as easy as pulling a plastic duck out of a prize pool. Tea parties are for little girls.
Force is the root of immorality since only logic can be moral. We need to agree world wide that we need to share the world, not fight to protect what we can never own.
I really like what this guy is saying, but there was one part where he came off wrong. Saying America was formed on violent tax protests sounds like a Brit throwing the truth under the bus and contradicting his point. The honest history of America is dark but if we want to start pointing fingers and airing dirty laundry than it needs to be said that the Britash Empire/England was what America is today and "America" has never gained freedom from them since it's birth. BANKS RULE THE WORLD!
You say banks and Stefbot says government is the problem. However both require people to run both institutions. It also requires people acting like sheeple to allow for such mischief or what you call evil. This is called politics.
Too many people will believe the lie at some level that a little comfort and false security are reasons to give up personal freedom and liberty. The mischief makers sell it all the time. The sheeple believe it most of the time. Sheeple to people is about 10 to 1.
Quote: Morality is not subjective...(it) is consistent & clear rational principles that are universal.
What's the basis or root of this so-called 'universal & rational principles'? Doesn't this sound 'subjective'? Who says so? Does this morality require collective agreement? Just another 'bubble'?
The reason for contract, law & the government of the uS is the inability of people to treat each other as they should. Then of course that which we need protection from is in charge of protection.
What is the root of morality? Where did it come from or who or what decided what morality should be?
Is morality something discovered that exists when people are born? Once again where did that come from and by whom or what? Is it by consensus of a few or a majority upon all? Isn't that a bit subjective?
Stefbot, that seems like a really big elephant in your room of thinking. Other than some form of "just because" response what are the answers to my questions?
Ahem, Stef wrote a book on morality that answers these questions. There is no "big elephant in the room" other than the one you have convinced yourself to see.
Hmm, I see. Are you the self-appointed spokesperson for Stefbot? You could at least quote from his book or are you a cheerleader too?
Stef hasn't answered and you have done what most government administrators do and that is to say in so many words, "just because" for the person that should answer.
I'm beginning to see that people can be just as much a sheeple for someone charismatic with an English accent. as they were for a young black president with with a nice reassuring smile.
How would you infer that my comments connotes a belief that government is now operated by and for the people?
Even well intentioned government of law to protect the people from people requires people to administer government and law. That's like putting up a chicken fence to protect the chickens from the wolves and foxes while having the wolves and foxes build the fence and with keys to the gate.
I don't know how you came to your conclusion about my words.
You are part of the people. Do you get to pass / enforce laws? Do you get to collect taxes? No? Then you are not part of the government, end of story, no matter how much you would like to believe otherwise. This pretense that "government is the people" is no less insane than the pretense that the slaves are the masters.
Does Stefbot need a better spokesperson? Where do you get "government is the people"? If you're referring to my words, perhaps you should reread them.
Stefbot makes a good point, in so many words,
that no matter the intention in the creation of a government a separate natural reality takes over. The flawed ideas of this government of the uSA were the best ever offered. However when you let you guard dog sleep in you bed and eat at your table the beast owns you.
Please, if you really want an answer about morality being objective read the book. it is "A BOOK" not just a few words that I can wirte here. I'm not a spokenperson, just a person trying to help you find what you want, if it's an answer what you really want. If you just want to write whatever you want and not look for things you may be missing then go on.
Hmm, I want Stefbot's thoughts on morality as queried. Instead I'm offered 'A Book' from a spiritual follower; that's real novel and new. Perhaps he doesn't exist either.
It's not 'an' answer I'm looking for. It is Stefbot's answer. Where and when did you think that I needed your help? I get all the help I need from good doers of left and right wing bird of prey.
I find trying to post comments is more difficult these days. Utube and its policies & protections. So I will have to break up my response into smaller pieces. No, my comment wasn't too long.
Just cleared out my YouTube and Googel cookies. I'll try again in a second.
I believe from what I have read about what other people including his family have said about him, I do not believe that it was him who wrote that letter, and because the suicide note was left on the internet, I find the assumption that it was him without proof is totally insane. Have you proof of these other letters he had supposedly written to "the government"? I want evidence and the letter in his hand before I pass judgment. He just didn't sound like someone justifying a need for revenge.
Unless there is documented proof of such letters, I will go by what people who have worked with him had to say, because a creative person, with means and a creative outlook and family he loved is less likely to have been someone to do such a deed. I wonder how the press decided it was him only one hour into the deed when it takes so much longer to do a proper investigation. I find my suspiciousness justified by the speed of the media facts and what they had come up with, including the body.
This guy is mostly right, but He's wrong when he says you can't right violence with violence. If that were true, we wouldn't have a Constitution born of armed resistance. What stefbot fails to realize is that self defense is a God-given right that was meant to be used. I don't derive my right to defend liberty from a man...It's part of my humanity. Other than this I agree with what he said.
From what I've heard, Joe Stack went to Milton Hershey School. But I don't know for how many years...perhaps someone has that info?
What I do know is that Milton Hershey is EXTREMELY well endowed! I have been there several times. Someone close to me has taught there for many years. QUITE a place, and DEFINITELY NOT the "typical" picture we get when we think of an orphanage...for example, the rotunda there is HUGE! The children's homes are amazing...it is like Harvard for disadvantaged kids...
Who was innocent? Surely you don't mean the people of the IRS who make a living harassing people, taking their homes, and swiping their bank accounts. No, no one at the IRS is innocent. Did they deserve to die? No... But they are not innocent.
if it wasnt for ur tax money a lot of people would not have medical or financial help.Think about it welfare w.i.c. would be no more so stop crying and pay ur taxes.
That would be great if the state got out of welfare. It is through welfare that they state is able to control the people. "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
i do certainly live the cynism, and i agree that stack's «snap» was most certainly trigger by his idealism. i also agree that there is a great deal of madness in his action, and we might consider his orphan childhood as a conducive terrain for what he ended up doing.
But goddamn, i cannot help but to feel a sort of admiration for this fellow, for the brutality and blind honesty of his mind.
IF we decide to fight this system, i dont see any other way than violence...
You admire him? Do you also admire Mohammed Atta and the other 9/11 terrorists, who like this murderous Joe Stack also flew airplanes into occupied buildings? Do you admire the brutality and blind honesty of their minds?
Flying airplanes into occupied buildings = TERRORISM.
its hard to say, «admiration» is the closest word i found to describe the feeling. i dont know mohammed atta or any other arabic individual is responsable for 9/11, i believe your government pulled that coup. Brilliantly, ny the way. But i despise religion, so someone that blows himself off out of a religious belief is someone despicable for me. mr. stefbot might not like that, but i do appreciate my capacity of categorizing, completely subjectively, my moral values.
theres not a single civilisation that had existed without what you call «terrorism». in terms of destructive power, the action of mr. stack is way below what government's do. Just so you know...
The government protects your property, fundamentally, by inventing the idea of private property, and managing a publicly funded police force, and making laws and institutions that regulate private property. Without these government support structures, you would have to hire your own police force, and have enough power to keep the neighbors from encroaching on your space.
I to am having problems with the irs but I will try to deal with it in court. I am disabled and because of a statute they are refusing to give me over $17,000. So even the disabled is taken advantaged of by the same government it funds. Tax codes are written for the rich as the poor suffer..
Perhaps Joe really did misunderstand the concept of the state, as Stef says. It is not the main point. The man was prepared to fight! Furthermore, to his credit, he did try to resolve the conflict in a peaceful manner before resorting to violence. As I understand, Ghandi followed similar strategy to resolve conflicts, except instead of power of violence he used the power of integrative type. The other similarity is that both Joe and Ghandi were prepared to die for the cause.
That's all very well, but quite frankly I'm at Joe's level right now. I'm sick and tired of bringing in hundreds of thousands of pounds into my area through my business, while driving an 8 year old car, owning one pair of shoes, owing money to EVERYONE (even though we make a good profit) and watching chavs being given it all and drinking in the streets while I work 12 hours a day for years and fucking years. GOOD ON YOU JOE, GOOD FUCKING ON YOU!
You're at Joe's level right now? So... you're ready to become a suicidal, homicidal maniac? How many people are you going to target and how will you kill them?
@BewareTheBeast - if you don't like it there, move to America. Taxes are lower, there's no socialism, and a lot of immigrants work 12 hours a day, so you won't feel so alone.
What he said whas for a large part basic knowledge. But hes simply not good enough with his explanations. He says absolutely nothing in this video. Anyone can point at a car and say its a car.... big deal. What are his solutions than? You mean get organized and such, don't fly planes in government buildings, get illuminated lolz. I whas just pissed off because of the low level of intelligence this man seems to have. Something like watching Dr. Phil
if we label this guy a terrorist you think we can lump all the tea partiers in w him?
I bet we can deprive all these guys of due process, right to speedy trial, jury of peers, right to face accuser, warrantless searches, arrest w/o charging.
We've just got to lump them all in together and label them a threat, and then we can let government just violate the hell out of them.
@panadevulpe INFOWARS ACTORS JUST DENIED ENTRANCE INTO IRS SITE INTERVIEW TODAY! NORTHERN IRELAND BOMBING ALSO HOUSE OF ROTHCHILD WINSOR CONNECTION NO DOUBT
There's a reason so many of you instinctively consider Joe Stack a hero, because you'd think nothing of murdering a fellow citizen in cold blood, just like he did.
Fuck your sick homicidal mentality. You truly are the living damned.
@serverdown1508 It's just the opposite. It's trying to tell you what wont work so you can focus on what would work. "Illumination" is about taking a memetic approach to fighting the government. Spread the idea, organize civil disobedience where you can, peaceful resistance and non-cooperation. You need that fighting spirit for that too man! It's just that the energy is put to the kind of use they can't point to and say "see, they're terrorists!" the way they can if you fight using violence.
@serverdown1508 and others.. take a page from Gandhi's book. How many gandhis can you inspire in your country? That one guy stopped the army. How much more can 10 do, a 100, a 1000?
You also have the internet. Use it. Write articles, make videos, discuss it. Do it to the point when there's nobody online left who doesn't know the nature of the beast and who doesn't wish it to go away. They can't massage that kind of "public opinion" and they can't wage war against the whole world.
What a load of shit. The person who made this video is an idiot.
The governments job is to protect its people, when the government attacks its own people be it for any reason, taxes, jail, whatever, then they are no longer doing THEIR job and therefor should be removed, killed, whatever, so a new government (person) can be put into place who will do the job government was intended to do. The IRS is unconstitutional, they aren't doing the governments job, they are the mafia, and deserve to die.
yeh im with you man. It is just way past words and picket signs. I give it up to this stacks guy for making a stand and showing them that you cant fuck with some of us. Unfortunately I have too much to lose.
Your right on one hand,But i will not be a slave and their is a point wear i will fight back right or not!If the Gov't keep's pushing people will push back and by what you are saying that is a wast of time so what do we do jest take it?
Question to Libertarians: Will having Blackwater enforcing eviction notices for banks be much more effective when sheriffs start balking at destroying their neighbors' lives?
"The great non sequitur committed by defenders of the State, is to leap from the necessity of society to the necessity of the State." - Murray Rothbard
Good points. I read Stack's manifesto, what came immediately to my mind was this guy was very naive, thinking there was any chance for justice. He explains how he awoke and realized the US was a lie and unjust, yet he still wasted effort behaving as if there _was_ the chance for justice.
If he could have just adapted to the reality, let go of childish fantasy, he could have worked within the system and managed quite well. Rule #1 is direct frontal assault is usually fatal.
Thank you for presenting this video - The logic and delivery is impeccable !
This topic has been rolling around my head for many years, without any out-let - and when attempted, would be seen as bitter or negative , or even, offensive !
You have validated , eloquently , that which I have held to be true about the government and power elite - it is SO good to know that YOU are out there , speaking to this !
Universal morality is based on whether it's consistent and logical for everyone. It's born of reality and sanity. Wife beating and slavery are products of mental illness. Like racism. It doesn't matter if it's "considered" moral it's simply incorrect and out of touch with reality.
but morality is in a constant evolution. things you consider moral might not be so in 500 years.
also when wife beating was considered justified someone could have argued that it was born reality and sanity since it would be insane for a woman to have equal authority with her husband.
@gworksnell - I agree! He is excellent! If you haven't seen his videos on Global Warming or Healthcare I would strongly recommend watching those videos as well. I certainly have learned a lot from him. Thanks, RJ
Nice dissertation on the morality of government, but you left out one major point. If protests and other such attempts to change the government are ultimately futile, then what are we supposed to do? While it may appear futile for stark to fly a plane into a building, isn't that how the government knows it's reached it's limit? If government expands to the limits of it's capability, then where do those limits come from? Strak was a limiter.
Joe Stack was a selfish sob. Half his contracts came from the government his last job aerospace is a government job. He owned two planes, he was greedy and when his bad house investment went bust (assuming it foreclosed) he decided to blame the irs, the only one that gave him a job.
my place got broken into and my car got stolen, the police didnt and dont care about your protection and the protection of your family and possessions, if theres no money to make for their mafia attorneys, theres no point messing with it.. The reality is, Joe was sick and tired to play the unfair game of monopoly. When the group of guys your playing against are all conspiring against you with a set of dice controlled by them.
The Fact is the Tax System is both idiotic and unfair. When the government sets up an administration with the power to ruin lives, the system is immoral. We need a system that raises revenues in such a way that EVERYONE pays. The current system is completely flawed.
I'm terrible with money. I bitch and blame my failures on other people. Rather than live and face responsibility like a man, I will fly MY AIRPLANE into a building of innocent people. Also, I will burn down the home of my wife and 12 year old daughter before killing myself - completely ruining their lives. I am a coward.
@hillerm The American Revolutionary war was fought because of "un-fair taxation" and innocent people were killed, does that make the Son's of Liberty cowards also - willing to die for tax fairness ?
Joe Stack should of seen this video before he tried to run afoul of the Mafia aka U.S.
Government.
"Its one big fuking club and you ain't in it" -- George Carlin
The circumstances of the American Revolution were totally different.
The Boston Tea Party happened because Americans weren't allowed to vote for the British leaders who imposed the taxes on them. They had literally no influence in Britain. It was called taxation without representation.
You may not like this, but because you have the power to vote, we have taxation WITH representation. You may disagree with the decisions made, but it has been a legit process.
That's cool if you support him by me....I just wish I didn't have to pay for your support of him or follow your or his ideology. Because you and your fellow conspirators though if I don't go along and give gov't my money to support your policies I'll go to jail, lose my stuff, etc.
Actually, I forgot to mention one other thing...democracy actually translated means "rule of the governed"...which is slightly different from your definition...but heh..you say potato...I say potaato...
I am sick of IRS takin 30% of my money that I have to work my ass off making and then coming around and saying they beleive I made a mistake in 2002 and didnt pay enough and now I owe them penalties and interest then I have to hire tax attorney just to find out they were wrong I AM SICK OF IT!!!!!!!
Lisaj4431 1 month ago
Who is this Brit talking about OUR country F....k OFF
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AryanKnight 3 months ago
I honestly cannot express how useful these videos are in helping me untie the knots of statist programming that were wired inside my head.
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I mean, I am not saying you're all wrong, but still you must understand that the government SHOULD have all those things to uphold (which wouldn't be painstaking for them to stand up and actually do). Sure, we are all responsible for ourselves, but they must also be responsible for us. We fight their wars, we police their cities. And in return, they give us the shaft. My opinion.
multibigpop 7 months ago
That's WHY people oppose the state. They know exactly how the state is. The main reason they oppose them is because they are opposing them for being liars, thieves, destructive... The fact that you brought up his family issues is stupid, unless you are a psychologist who has actually put a lot of study into his personality and social activity prior to his acts. Absurd.
multibigpop 7 months ago
This is always so funny to watch, people calling others wrong for things they do, all while making some false mental evaluations to prove a "point". Fact of the matter is, we are all guilty of so much. And nobody ever actually listens to any of these people. You guys all live in some fantasy land where everything is supposed to be "alright". You play your video games and watch movies and are blind. You all commit murder, famine, and destruction like anyone else. Get over yourselves.
multibigpop 7 months ago
I agree violence Never solved anything, and EVEN thought i agree fully that Hitler was Evil it should be noted he was times man of the year 2 times
Boozebegood 11 months ago
@Boozebegood i think the man of the year highlights the person who made the biggest impact on the world in any given year. Not necceasarily the man who did the most charity work.
fps0chris 11 months ago
@fps0chris My point is just because hes is leader and effective doesn't mean he can't be evil IE... well also most any US leader since kk Fill in blank _____
Boozebegood 11 months ago
lets just say in any govt of the world selfishness is all that exist. It all comes down to what you can and can't get away with.
wavyriver 1 year ago
Thank you for clarifying things Stefan. But you didn't give the solution with as much detail as we need.
AmmericanPsych0 1 year ago
Jospeh Stack RIP. He may have been misguided but at least he showed some true emotion and got stuck in. Maybe he should have focussed on one person instead of a building? These public servants get away with murder with their non-accountability.
antoconno 1 year ago
this guy is a bumbling idiot buzz light-year can suck a dick
Dubstepblast 1 year ago
You are an immoral ass making a connection to Mr. Stack's actions and your psychological and growing up conclusions, as the most valued people in the US such as corporate leaders and US presidents have murdered and continue to murder millions of innocent people in their attempts at stealing other countries resources and wealth, are wrong as the most valued US citizens have had just the oppostie up bringing. So, wrong that you dont even see that Stack's actions are morally justified.
Marly61 1 year ago
HE NEEDED A BIGGER PLANE WITH A COUPLE FIRE CRACKERS YA KNOW FOR A LITTLE BANG. THE GOV, IS A FUCKING THIEF THE GOV, IS NOT YOUR FRIEND THE GOV HAS ENSALVED YOU FOR ETERNITY. THE GOV WILL MAKE YOU SEND YOUR CHILD TO HIS/HER DEATH FOR A LIE WAR LETTERS WILL DO NOTHING THEY DO NOT READ THAT THEY COUNT YOUR HOURLY PAY AND SPEND IT NOW 30 YEARS AHEAD OF YOUR DEATH. THE GOV IS INTERESTED IN TAKING YOUR PROPERTY AND YES WEARE 4x TAXED AS IT IS FREEDOMS ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME U ARE MAD
mk7mk77 1 year ago
@mk7mk77 when i read ur post it reminded me of a full concentrate bill o riely not the watered down version much respect
Dubstepblast 1 year ago
@Dubstepblast except uh...bill o reily lies. CONSTANTLY. Almost every other sentence is an outright lie. And of the remaining 50%, 49% are half-truths. Bill O reily is a parasite on the movement for smaller government. He just likes to get paid his millions from fox for inciting redneck hicks. Everything mk7mk77 said is true. Nothing o reily says is true. Think man, think for yourself! I almost think oreily was planted by the elite to keep intelligent people AWAY from that point of view.
Chrome585 1 year ago
@mk7mk77: It hurts to exist after reading this.
andyissemicool 1 year ago
@andyissemicool everything he said is true though. He makes the SAME EXACT points as stef in his videos, only an order of magnitude less eloquently. It hurts me, physically and emotionally, to see somebody like you bound in a cage. You can't escape the cages you don't see. It hurts me to see you dismiss his comment as a mad rant, when everything he said is spot on. You don't have free choice. You have owners. George Carlin was right. RIP.
Chrome585 1 year ago
Joe Stack should not have killed innocent people, I guess he have no other way of expressing himself
wavyriver 1 year ago
@wavyriver who in the US is innocent? If they pay taxes they are not innocent.
Marly61 1 year ago
Sorry stefbot, but your views on this subject are totally wrong, and wrong in so many different ways. Before watching this video I thought you were a genius from watching some of your other videos. Now I'm not sure what to think. I don't understand how you can not see how your reasoning is so flawed in this video. All I see is pathetic reasoning being used in trying to discredit Joe Stack and his actions, which leads me to wonder why, because by doing so you only discredited yourself.
aimeechrister 1 year ago
@aimeechrister He did explain the reasons for his views, whereas you didn't in the least. Your comment sounds like one kid calling another kid a "foo-foo head." That makes you look really dumb, doesn't it?
1tuuber 1 year ago
Joe Stack was a Patriot, killing Innocents is a mistake, however he is right about our government, this video is a sad attempt to discredit a man for mental illness. The State you make reference to shouldn't exist we are States in a Union a contract. The central government is suppose to serve the Union not the other way around.
northforge 1 year ago 2
The constitution is man government and god is his reasoning(religion).NOTHING ELSE MATTER.The deception is hidden within the gods of government. Man must Protect him self from the government, since he pose no physical tool of protect at birth,but could this power be harness with intelligences?.Joe, eat the fruit from the serpent tree(IRA codes).Taxation is usury and usury is the fruit man eat from .government is the serpent tree and the serpent are the member of every branch of tree.
SteveXnycperformance 1 year ago
i dont think this guys view on the subject is that accurate...
jhaze918 1 year ago
i dont think you have the right vision on this guy stack...he knew whats up with the government and the irs..you think he crashed a plane into a building because he relied on the government to protect him?? no...he did it because he knows the government is corrupt....man had been fuked up the ass by the irs just like many people do...i dont really agree with this guy..comparing the government to the mafia and basically saying theres nothing for us to do but write letters and make phone call lmao
jhaze918 1 year ago
the analogy is poor but better than most i hear, his argument is true though about fighting evil with evil (bad idea). Your undermining the point of the video because of insignificant discrepancies.
Richiehurtsalot 1 year ago
@jhaze918 the founding fathers would be proud,defending the constitution at all costs.Hopefully the service will improve after this wake up call
chenieee 1 year ago
@chenieee im not sure the founding fathers would be happy of killing other citizens....he should have made his statement another way...
jhaze918 1 year ago
@jhaze918 The I R S needs a Chasity belt around there fascist compound to fend off Ryder trucks and stray aircraft
chenieee 1 year ago
@jhaze918 I'm a Constitutionalist, but I do have some problems with the Founding Fathers, in that they were happy to legalize slavery and kill innocent indian civilians. They were not perfect by a long shot.
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TheBlueConch 1 year ago
LOL
yogiudo 1 year ago
eternal thanks Stef
GrayVproductions 1 year ago
Excellent monologue on why violent overthrow will not stop a violent government. Is this why the government so desires all those who oppose it to be violent terrorists? Indeed we are pre-philosophy. Thank you Steph.
TheMrnonviolent 1 year ago
sean hannity"s real name is mr. monkey crap! RIGHT WING , LEFT WING, MEDIA So lets say the average income is $39,000.00 of all people in this country. So 250,000,000 times $19,000.000.00 is $4750000000000.00 every year. Not including the money the government gets from other countries WAKE UP
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our neighbors kids go to die and steal oil, we want to pay 1.00 per gallon of gas .
no healthcare for politicians, till healthcare and meds. are NON- profit
NO more property tax for homeowners
machinegunsgonewild 1 year ago
Right on son
Richiehurtsalot 1 year ago
Wonderful articulation my friend.
namaste
D7Wolow 1 year ago
I always thought that government was a necessary evil... now I think it's to evil to be necessary.
pinkbunnygirlmoo 1 year ago
was it ever proved without a doubt that it was in fact the real guy, or just a nameless crispy critter
BluesdesJours 1 year ago
Anyone that thinks they are going to start some kind of new civil war is an idiot. The F.B.I. will be all over you before you can gather up five other strychnine-swilling snake handlers, and one of their cousins will have a big, drunk mouth anyway. Rooting out carnies that think they're going to establish some new kind of America will be as easy as pulling a plastic duck out of a prize pool. Tea parties are for little girls.
kipptumor 1 year ago
God damnit Stef,you really did good one this one!!!
THAWK3 1 year ago
u can not win a fight without fighting
Sojaofdapepo 1 year ago
Force is the root of immorality since only logic can be moral. We need to agree world wide that we need to share the world, not fight to protect what we can never own.
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InstantCreditCards 1 year ago
I really like what this guy is saying, but there was one part where he came off wrong. Saying America was formed on violent tax protests sounds like a Brit throwing the truth under the bus and contradicting his point. The honest history of America is dark but if we want to start pointing fingers and airing dirty laundry than it needs to be said that the Britash Empire/England was what America is today and "America" has never gained freedom from them since it's birth. BANKS RULE THE WORLD!
TheKeypushers 1 year ago
Man i really agree with this guy on almost everything. People catagorizing everything, and about "evil" portraying itself as good, so true.
TheKeypushers 1 year ago
You say banks and Stefbot says government is the problem. However both require people to run both institutions. It also requires people acting like sheeple to allow for such mischief or what you call evil. This is called politics.
Too many people will believe the lie at some level that a little comfort and false security are reasons to give up personal freedom and liberty. The mischief makers sell it all the time. The sheeple believe it most of the time. Sheeple to people is about 10 to 1.
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
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No, I found from 91177info revealing Governor Mansion about Joe Stack connection.
watch?v=A-suNt02OCI
vikingscool 1 year ago
Quote: Morality is not subjective...(it) is consistent & clear rational principles that are universal.
What's the basis or root of this so-called 'universal & rational principles'? Doesn't this sound 'subjective'? Who says so? Does this morality require collective agreement? Just another 'bubble'?
The reason for contract, law & the government of the uS is the inability of people to treat each other as they should. Then of course that which we need protection from is in charge of protection.
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
Government is people. People are the problem. Morality without a root is purely subjective and a point made in the video.
If morality is either evolutionary and/or by consensus then it is just another political subjective bubble; perhaps bigger but still same.
Stephbot, what is root of morality for all people?
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
What is the root of morality? Where did it come from or who or what decided what morality should be?
Is morality something discovered that exists when people are born? Once again where did that come from and by whom or what? Is it by consensus of a few or a majority upon all? Isn't that a bit subjective?
Stefbot, that seems like a really big elephant in your room of thinking. Other than some form of "just because" response what are the answers to my questions?
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
Ahem, Stef wrote a book on morality that answers these questions. There is no "big elephant in the room" other than the one you have convinced yourself to see.
RuddODragonFear 1 year ago
Hmm, I see. Are you the self-appointed spokesperson for Stefbot? You could at least quote from his book or are you a cheerleader too?
Stef hasn't answered and you have done what most government administrators do and that is to say in so many words, "just because" for the person that should answer.
I'm beginning to see that people can be just as much a sheeple for someone charismatic with an English accent. as they were for a young black president with with a nice reassuring smile.
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
First off your right saying Government is created by the people for the people, but your wrong in believing today's "Government" is the people.
TheKeypushers 1 year ago
How would you infer that my comments connotes a belief that government is now operated by and for the people?
Even well intentioned government of law to protect the people from people requires people to administer government and law. That's like putting up a chicken fence to protect the chickens from the wolves and foxes while having the wolves and foxes build the fence and with keys to the gate.
I don't know how you came to your conclusion about my words.
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
You are part of the people. Do you get to pass / enforce laws? Do you get to collect taxes? No? Then you are not part of the government, end of story, no matter how much you would like to believe otherwise. This pretense that "government is the people" is no less insane than the pretense that the slaves are the masters.
RuddODragonFear 1 year ago
Does Stefbot need a better spokesperson? Where do you get "government is the people"? If you're referring to my words, perhaps you should reread them.
Stefbot makes a good point, in so many words,
that no matter the intention in the creation of a government a separate natural reality takes over. The flawed ideas of this government of the uSA were the best ever offered. However when you let you guard dog sleep in you bed and eat at your table the beast owns you.
People are the problem.
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
Please, if you really want an answer about morality being objective read the book. it is "A BOOK" not just a few words that I can wirte here. I'm not a spokenperson, just a person trying to help you find what you want, if it's an answer what you really want. If you just want to write whatever you want and not look for things you may be missing then go on.
chicalleje 1 year ago
Hmm, I want Stefbot's thoughts on morality as queried. Instead I'm offered 'A Book' from a spiritual follower; that's real novel and new. Perhaps he doesn't exist either.
It's not 'an' answer I'm looking for. It is Stefbot's answer. Where and when did you think that I needed your help? I get all the help I need from good doers of left and right wing bird of prey.
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
anger
Richiehurtsalot 1 year ago
@Richiehurtsalot I've forgiven myself for feeling sorry about your anger.
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
I find trying to post comments is more difficult these days. Utube and its policies & protections. So I will have to break up my response into smaller pieces. No, my comment wasn't too long.
Just cleared out my YouTube and Googel cookies. I'll try again in a second.
ifreemantoo 1 year ago
You think this was something that came from his parental upbringing?
It was his momies fault?
You are Trash just trying to CAPITALIZE on this event for your own gain.
May you slip in the shower friend, 'cause if you slipped into the toilet no one could tell.
Jerryonemillion 1 year ago
I believe from what I have read about what other people including his family have said about him, I do not believe that it was him who wrote that letter, and because the suicide note was left on the internet, I find the assumption that it was him without proof is totally insane. Have you proof of these other letters he had supposedly written to "the government"? I want evidence and the letter in his hand before I pass judgment. He just didn't sound like someone justifying a need for revenge.
AlterEgoTrip 1 year ago
Unless there is documented proof of such letters, I will go by what people who have worked with him had to say, because a creative person, with means and a creative outlook and family he loved is less likely to have been someone to do such a deed. I wonder how the press decided it was him only one hour into the deed when it takes so much longer to do a proper investigation. I find my suspiciousness justified by the speed of the media facts and what they had come up with, including the body.
AlterEgoTrip 1 year ago
This guy is mostly right, but He's wrong when he says you can't right violence with violence. If that were true, we wouldn't have a Constitution born of armed resistance. What stefbot fails to realize is that self defense is a God-given right that was meant to be used. I don't derive my right to defend liberty from a man...It's part of my humanity. Other than this I agree with what he said.
futurevent 1 year ago
From what I've heard, Joe Stack went to Milton Hershey School. But I don't know for how many years...perhaps someone has that info?
What I do know is that Milton Hershey is EXTREMELY well endowed! I have been there several times. Someone close to me has taught there for many years. QUITE a place, and DEFINITELY NOT the "typical" picture we get when we think of an orphanage...for example, the rotunda there is HUGE! The children's homes are amazing...it is like Harvard for disadvantaged kids...
thefreedomartist 1 year ago
Joe killed and hurt innocents and that is the bottom line. He was wrong in doing that regardless of his grievances.
bertly71 1 year ago
ver true bertly good comment
cazyblood3 1 year ago
Thanks friend.
bertly71 1 year ago
Who was innocent? Surely you don't mean the people of the IRS who make a living harassing people, taking their homes, and swiping their bank accounts. No, no one at the IRS is innocent. Did they deserve to die? No... But they are not innocent.
Captain077 1 year ago
if it wasnt for ur tax money a lot of people would not have medical or financial help.Think about it welfare w.i.c. would be no more so stop crying and pay ur taxes.
rogermor1 1 year ago
That would be great if the state got out of welfare. It is through welfare that they state is able to control the people. "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." Samuel Adams
Captain077 1 year ago
Joe Stack was at the Georgetown Municipal Airport "hours" before the attack according to AP.
If this is true how did he set his house on fire a little over an hour before the attack?
Headline: Texas Plane Crash Exposes Gap in U.S. Security
( paragraph 4)
Coloradoinformant 1 year ago
Brilliant, thank you!
T4L0NNL 1 year ago
i do certainly live the cynism, and i agree that stack's «snap» was most certainly trigger by his idealism. i also agree that there is a great deal of madness in his action, and we might consider his orphan childhood as a conducive terrain for what he ended up doing.
But goddamn, i cannot help but to feel a sort of admiration for this fellow, for the brutality and blind honesty of his mind.
IF we decide to fight this system, i dont see any other way than violence...
lubios1981 1 year ago
@lubios1981
You admire him? Do you also admire Mohammed Atta and the other 9/11 terrorists, who like this murderous Joe Stack also flew airplanes into occupied buildings? Do you admire the brutality and blind honesty of their minds?
Flying airplanes into occupied buildings = TERRORISM.
chrisatyou 1 year ago
its hard to say, «admiration» is the closest word i found to describe the feeling. i dont know mohammed atta or any other arabic individual is responsable for 9/11, i believe your government pulled that coup. Brilliantly, ny the way. But i despise religion, so someone that blows himself off out of a religious belief is someone despicable for me. mr. stefbot might not like that, but i do appreciate my capacity of categorizing, completely subjectively, my moral values.
lubios1981 1 year ago
@chrisatyou
theres not a single civilisation that had existed without what you call «terrorism». in terms of destructive power, the action of mr. stack is way below what government's do. Just so you know...
lubios1981 1 year ago
Joe Stack had enough of the criminal US NWO Govt
nasafakedit 1 year ago
The government protects your property, fundamentally, by inventing the idea of private property, and managing a publicly funded police force, and making laws and institutions that regulate private property. Without these government support structures, you would have to hire your own police force, and have enough power to keep the neighbors from encroaching on your space.
wildgift2 1 year ago
but if the governmnt lives next door then they would be your neighbors AND encroaching on your stuff, how do you solve that?
gosmokesome 1 year ago
Stefan, you are the corrupt element of the American system that Joseph Stack mentioned in his manifesto.
Antigodboy 1 year ago
@Antigodboy Of course! Stef's in charge of The American System. From his secret hideout in Canada.
OldWhig1688 1 year ago
he is smart , but wrong, FIGHT BACK is the only way to be noticed, IT HAS GONE TOO FAR.
machinegunsgonewild 1 year ago
I choose not to ignore what is going on all around me, I choose not to pretend that business as usual wont continue; I have just had enough. A.J.S.
9vapor9 1 year ago
I to am having problems with the irs but I will try to deal with it in court. I am disabled and because of a statute they are refusing to give me over $17,000. So even the disabled is taken advantaged of by the same government it funds. Tax codes are written for the rich as the poor suffer..
betrthanmost 1 year ago
Perhaps Joe really did misunderstand the concept of the state, as Stef says. It is not the main point. The man was prepared to fight! Furthermore, to his credit, he did try to resolve the conflict in a peaceful manner before resorting to violence. As I understand, Ghandi followed similar strategy to resolve conflicts, except instead of power of violence he used the power of integrative type. The other similarity is that both Joe and Ghandi were prepared to die for the cause.
CosmicBoss2 1 year ago
That's all very well, but quite frankly I'm at Joe's level right now. I'm sick and tired of bringing in hundreds of thousands of pounds into my area through my business, while driving an 8 year old car, owning one pair of shoes, owing money to EVERYONE (even though we make a good profit) and watching chavs being given it all and drinking in the streets while I work 12 hours a day for years and fucking years. GOOD ON YOU JOE, GOOD FUCKING ON YOU!
BewareTheBeast 1 year ago
You're at Joe's level right now? So... you're ready to become a suicidal, homicidal maniac? How many people are you going to target and how will you kill them?
chrisatyou 1 year ago
@chrisatyou DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY CO-OWNED HANGAR-INFOWARS AND OFGOATSANDMEN
jayskind 1 year ago
I'm going to beat them to death with the 'Politicaly Correct' User Guide.
BewareTheBeast 1 year ago
@BewareTheBeast - if you don't like it there, move to America. Taxes are lower, there's no socialism, and a lot of immigrants work 12 hours a day, so you won't feel so alone.
wildgift2 1 year ago
@wildgift2: No Socialism? Was this post sarcastic?
DreadLaw2 1 year ago
I'm off to NZ.
BewareTheBeast 1 year ago
@libervisco
What he said whas for a large part basic knowledge. But hes simply not good enough with his explanations. He says absolutely nothing in this video. Anyone can point at a car and say its a car.... big deal. What are his solutions than? You mean get organized and such, don't fly planes in government buildings, get illuminated lolz. I whas just pissed off because of the low level of intelligence this man seems to have. Something like watching Dr. Phil
serverdown1508 1 year ago
Here's the deal : Illumination takes a long time , meanwhile , a guy who's being bullied by the "mafia" will strike back every now and then .
He had a choice , he could eat up his dignity and live like the rest of us with the tail between his legs , OR NOT !
There's a reason so many of us INSTINCTIVLY consider Joe Stack a hero .
panadevulpe 1 year ago
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ok,....... so
if we label this guy a terrorist you think we can lump all the tea partiers in w him?
I bet we can deprive all these guys of due process, right to speedy trial, jury of peers, right to face accuser, warrantless searches, arrest w/o charging.
We've just got to lump them all in together and label them a threat, and then we can let government just violate the hell out of them.
That is the point of all this....... right?
to be like the nazis???
MilitaryTacticalGear 1 year ago
@panadevulpe INFOWARS ACTORS JUST DENIED ENTRANCE INTO IRS SITE INTERVIEW TODAY! NORTHERN IRELAND BOMBING ALSO HOUSE OF ROTHCHILD WINSOR CONNECTION NO DOUBT
jayskind 1 year ago
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chrisatyou 1 year ago
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There's a reason so many of you instinctively consider Joe Stack a hero, because you'd think nothing of murdering a fellow citizen in cold blood, just like he did.
Fuck your sick homicidal mentality. You truly are the living damned.
chrisatyou 1 year ago
BRILLIANT!!!
Scrap5000 1 year ago
No, I don't think YOU (stefbot) understand.
"The Mafia" fucked Joe Stack.
So Joe Stacked fucked "The Mafia."
End of story.
invisibleforce777 1 year ago
@invisibleforce777 The Mafia/Government don't seem very fucked to me.
libervisco 1 year ago 2
WHOS RICHARD STACK??????
JoseLatty 1 year ago
@JoseLatty exactly this guy blows joe stack however now theres a fucking hero
bushuraloser 1 year ago
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JoseLatty 1 year ago
joe stack is on the same level as timothy mcveigh
SloganLogan 1 year ago
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YES HE IS...HERO STATUS..."Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." John F. Kennedy
JoseLatty 1 year ago
@SloganLogan yes both heros May god bless and keep them both
bushuraloser 1 year ago
too bad there's no god
SloganLogan 1 year ago
@JoseLatty
I agree
LiquidSmooth 1 year ago
Joe Stack is a fucking hero.. I will remember him for the rest of my life..
Take my pound of flesh you mother fuckers and sleep well!!! Joe Stack rest in peace brother, you did spark the beginning.
YourLastPatriot 1 year ago 5
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God I hate this guy...
Let me make a summary of his bullshit little story.
""The goverment is mafia, has always been mafia and always will be mafia.""
""There is nothing you can do about it and dont resist because the government is not a moral institution.""
His solution: The people need to be illuminated... the light defeats the darkness.
Its complete meaningless bullshit aimed to demoralize people more and worse than that, trying to break their fighting spirit.
shame on you!
serverdown1508 1 year ago
@serverdown1508 It's just the opposite. It's trying to tell you what wont work so you can focus on what would work. "Illumination" is about taking a memetic approach to fighting the government. Spread the idea, organize civil disobedience where you can, peaceful resistance and non-cooperation. You need that fighting spirit for that too man! It's just that the energy is put to the kind of use they can't point to and say "see, they're terrorists!" the way they can if you fight using violence.
libervisco 1 year ago
@serverdown1508 and others.. take a page from Gandhi's book. How many gandhis can you inspire in your country? That one guy stopped the army. How much more can 10 do, a 100, a 1000?
You also have the internet. Use it. Write articles, make videos, discuss it. Do it to the point when there's nobody online left who doesn't know the nature of the beast and who doesn't wish it to go away. They can't massage that kind of "public opinion" and they can't wage war against the whole world.
libervisco 1 year ago
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The tree of liberty must be refreshed, from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants. -Thomas Jefferson, 1787
nygrappler1 1 year ago 2
What a load of shit. The person who made this video is an idiot.
The governments job is to protect its people, when the government attacks its own people be it for any reason, taxes, jail, whatever, then they are no longer doing THEIR job and therefor should be removed, killed, whatever, so a new government (person) can be put into place who will do the job government was intended to do. The IRS is unconstitutional, they aren't doing the governments job, they are the mafia, and deserve to die.
aimeechrister 1 year ago
yeh im with you man. It is just way past words and picket signs. I give it up to this stacks guy for making a stand and showing them that you cant fuck with some of us. Unfortunately I have too much to lose.
qualityrkc 1 year ago
The American people have totally failed the world by becoming severely subservient, complacent in helping to create this monster.
CreatorChannel 1 year ago 3
Your right on one hand,But i will not be a slave and their is a point wear i will fight back right or not!If the Gov't keep's pushing people will push back and by what you are saying that is a wast of time so what do we do jest take it?
killergames187 1 year ago
Question to Libertarians: Will having Blackwater enforcing eviction notices for banks be much more effective when sheriffs start balking at destroying their neighbors' lives?
Let the Market decide, right?
jrubin22 1 year ago
@jrubin22
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because so many malls hire blackwater for security. So many celebrities hire blackwater for bodyguards.
Wait a second... blackwaters biggest main customer is multi-million dollar government contracts?
wow... good argument you got there.
TheCapitalistdog 1 year ago
@jrubin22
"The great non sequitur committed by defenders of the State, is to leap from the necessity of society to the necessity of the State." - Murray Rothbard
TheCapitalistdog 1 year ago
you are an idiot
qualityrkc 1 year ago
Good points. I read Stack's manifesto, what came immediately to my mind was this guy was very naive, thinking there was any chance for justice. He explains how he awoke and realized the US was a lie and unjust, yet he still wasted effort behaving as if there _was_ the chance for justice.
If he could have just adapted to the reality, let go of childish fantasy, he could have worked within the system and managed quite well. Rule #1 is direct frontal assault is usually fatal.
dashxdr 1 year ago 3
Thank you for presenting this video - The logic and delivery is impeccable !
This topic has been rolling around my head for many years, without any out-let - and when attempted, would be seen as bitter or negative , or even, offensive !
You have validated , eloquently , that which I have held to be true about the government and power elite - it is SO good to know that YOU are out there , speaking to this !
rolynstone48 1 year ago
@rolynstone48
thx for sharing this. i felt the same way when i found these videos! =D
greyced 1 year ago
Samlevla: Because many considered those acts and institutions moral doesn't mean they were.
mindpollute 1 year ago
how is morality universal? doesn't the fact that wife beating and slavery were considered moral show morality is not universal.
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samlevla 1 year ago
Universal morality is based on whether it's consistent and logical for everyone. It's born of reality and sanity. Wife beating and slavery are products of mental illness. Like racism. It doesn't matter if it's "considered" moral it's simply incorrect and out of touch with reality.
DCLugi 1 year ago
but morality is in a constant evolution. things you consider moral might not be so in 500 years.
also when wife beating was considered justified someone could have argued that it was born reality and sanity since it would be insane for a woman to have equal authority with her husband.
samlevla 1 year ago
What is moral is that one individual may never harm another person or their property, lest it be in self-defense.
TheSmokingArgus 1 year ago
you lost me w/bin laden... flying..what? missiles into the ...accounting dept pentagon... what...
CreatorChannel 1 year ago
This guy is too good.
gworksnell 1 year ago
@gworksnell - I agree! He is excellent! If you haven't seen his videos on Global Warming or Healthcare I would strongly recommend watching those videos as well. I certainly have learned a lot from him. Thanks, RJ
TripperLV 1 year ago
Awesome video. 5 stars and sub'd.
gworksnell 1 year ago
Obama is the Anti-Christ
sam12516 1 year ago 4
RIP Vernon Hunter
melora72 1 year ago
Ha ha...WWMD? What Would the Mafia Do? Great point. Keep up the good work!
eric731 1 year ago
The government is not our friend. There is nothing as selfish as bureaucracy.
I recommend watching watch?v=P772Eb63qIY (True News 13: Statism is Dead - Part 3 - The Matrix Human Livestock)
DanMorin007 1 year ago
I dont understand how you can compare the government with the mafia
fergus247 1 year ago
LOL. Fergus, c'mon guy.
gworksnell 1 year ago
Nice dissertation on the morality of government, but you left out one major point. If protests and other such attempts to change the government are ultimately futile, then what are we supposed to do? While it may appear futile for stark to fly a plane into a building, isn't that how the government knows it's reached it's limit? If government expands to the limits of it's capability, then where do those limits come from? Strak was a limiter.
aletoledo1 1 year ago
Joe Stack was a selfish sob. Half his contracts came from the government his last job aerospace is a government job. He owned two planes, he was greedy and when his bad house investment went bust (assuming it foreclosed) he decided to blame the irs, the only one that gave him a job.
pirucreek 1 year ago 3
my place got broken into and my car got stolen, the police didnt and dont care about your protection and the protection of your family and possessions, if theres no money to make for their mafia attorneys, theres no point messing with it.. The reality is, Joe was sick and tired to play the unfair game of monopoly. When the group of guys your playing against are all conspiring against you with a set of dice controlled by them.
vidarjens 1 year ago
The Fact is the Tax System is both idiotic and unfair. When the government sets up an administration with the power to ruin lives, the system is immoral. We need a system that raises revenues in such a way that EVERYONE pays. The current system is completely flawed.
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kmg501 1 year ago
Here's the real statement made by Joseph Stack:
I'm terrible with money. I bitch and blame my failures on other people. Rather than live and face responsibility like a man, I will fly MY AIRPLANE into a building of innocent people. Also, I will burn down the home of my wife and 12 year old daughter before killing myself - completely ruining their lives. I am a coward.
hillerm 1 year ago
@hillerm The American Revolutionary war was fought because of "un-fair taxation" and innocent people were killed, does that make the Son's of Liberty cowards also - willing to die for tax fairness ?
Joe Stack should of seen this video before he tried to run afoul of the Mafia aka U.S.
Government.
"Its one big fuking club and you ain't in it" -- George Carlin
OleGimletEye 1 year ago
The circumstances of the American Revolution were totally different.
The Boston Tea Party happened because Americans weren't allowed to vote for the British leaders who imposed the taxes on them. They had literally no influence in Britain. It was called taxation without representation.
You may not like this, but because you have the power to vote, we have taxation WITH representation. You may disagree with the decisions made, but it has been a legit process.
Remember to vote every election.
hillerm 1 year ago
It's just so difficult to know which sociopath represents me.
DCLugi 1 year ago 5
Of course, you can always decide to run yourself.
hillerm 1 year ago
True but if I get in how do I justify the "give me your money because I know better" thing. Unless I can just go around doing that anyway.
DCLugi 1 year ago
Well the beauty of democracy is that if you don't like it, you can change it.
hillerm 1 year ago
Yes by choosing not to play the game and living my life without using force to gain power.
DCLugi 1 year ago
What democracy are you referring to? Do you mean our constitutional republic?
Nickelodeon2002 1 year ago
@Nickelodeon
There are two forms of democracy: direct democracy and representative democracy.
A republic is a form of representative democracy, so yes, the United States is a democracy.
Democracy simply means "rule of the people".
hillerm 1 year ago
Ah yes....cause the votes for politicians means they represent you. My bad-thanks for the correction.
Nickelodeon2002 1 year ago
Seriously though. I knew Obama was going to be doing all of this, and its the reason I voted for him. I support all this stuff.
hillerm 1 year ago
That's cool if you support him by me....I just wish I didn't have to pay for your support of him or follow your or his ideology. Because you and your fellow conspirators though if I don't go along and give gov't my money to support your policies I'll go to jail, lose my stuff, etc.
Isn't Democracy grand?
Nickelodeon2002 1 year ago
How much better do you think it would have been with McCain/Palin?
melora72 1 year ago
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Nickelodeon2002 1 year ago
Actually, I forgot to mention one other thing...democracy actually translated means "rule of the governed"...which is slightly different from your definition...but heh..you say potato...I say potaato...
:)
Nickelodeon2002 1 year ago
We're both basically right. Technically, the exact translation is:
dêmos - "people"
krátos - "power"
People come up with various ways of trying to describe what those words mean.
hillerm 1 year ago
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@DCLugi
"It's just so difficult to know which sociopath represents me."
Okay, I LOL'd good at that. Thanks, I needed the laugh. =)
kmg501 1 year ago
Do you honestly believe that you are being represented any differently today than the Boston Tea Party ?
VOTING:
"...why should I trade one tyrant 3,000 miles away for 3,000 tyrants one mile away?" -- Mel Gibson, The Patriot
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OleGimletEye 1 year ago
Actually, yes.
I agree with progressive taxation, the stimulus, the bailout, healthcare reform, and escalation in Afghanistan. I voted for all of this.
hillerm 1 year ago
Corporate control of government is what should be feared not government.
badmuffy 1 year ago