@RustiSwordz this is the danger see. If you show this advert to a little kid, all they will see is the colourful music and characters, and funky music. They won't understand the stereotypes or overtones or anything.
Now....you can argue whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, but fact is WE know what racial overtones the advert has, WE know that yes it can be considered offensive, because we're adults.
BTW I love the music and the way the characters dance to the music.
@kdreamland fuck off man you know how to stop making things like this offensive? Stop finding them offensive. Kids might be fucking dense but they're not stupid enough to find a single stereotype in this. Who's the racist that came up with the stereotype that black kids get followed around by talking fucking crows?
@Bilsabob LOL yeah ok. I guess the stereotyping of chinese people in the old bugs bunny cartoons is ok to you as well. Big chipmunk teeth with cymbal hats and 'slanty' eyes. But no kid would ever see that and think Chinese person, would they? They'd just see it as a colourful cartoon character, rich with hidden depths. /sarcasm
stop defending things you know are wrong, just because you dont find them offensive.
@kdreamland dude i watched that shit when i was a kid and i don't run around asking chinese people if their dad was a chipmunk. I'm from one of the most stereotyped nations in the world. Ireland. I don't carry a pot of fucking gold, i made it through the potato famine ok and i wasn't in the IRA but if someone said that shite to me i'd just think they had a kind of malnourished intelligence, i wouldn't weep and try and drown them is a sea of guilt with the contents of my bleeding heart.
@Bilsabob Nice bilsabob. If only everyone was like you, there'd be no racism. Do you know what happened to this advert? It DIDN'T get banned. KIA-ORA pulled the advert themselves, they weren't told to take it down. They recognised that it is a little outdated in this environment.
BTW I used to know an irish kid in my school who got bullied, called a leprechaun and beat up and stuff. The fact is he was being bullied, and people were using stereotypes to isolate him. That's the danger dude.
@kdreamland does KIA-ORA even exist anymore? Fuck it man, its easy not to get bullied if your Irish just tell your bully that your da will blow his da up (See stereotypes). Its hard to draw a line between real racism and stereotyping i know. I have to agree there is one proper dodgy bit in this add when the tall basketball playing one just fucking up and arrives out of nowhere...slight overkill. peace buddy.
my gosh .. ive just read all the racist bollox .. this ad is almost 30 years old !! ... of course it would be considered racist now .. but back then when we were kids and no one had actually TOLD us about racism it was just a just a happy advert that everyone loved and we all went round singing * i'll be your dawg* for months ..lol . Ease up people .
blah blah blah below! Who gives a fuck! If anything, this is a bittov a mindfuck - now I finally get this reference in Spaced "It's too orangey for crows." God thisd be great to seee high/drunk!
i love this advert 'ill be your dog!' haha if you look on truffle shuffle theres a t.shirt with it on its so cool! xx how is it racist? i just dont get why people are making a massive fuss over it! xx
damn crows. always stealing my orange juice and playing that dadgum hippity-hop music. they oughta go back where they came from.... uh, the sky. or a tree.
Well, I mean, all the characters except the dog are black, and they're all pretty painful black stereotypes.
I see you're in the UK. Maybe these images don't have the same cultural resonance for you guys that they have in the US. These are all stock characters from old theatrical portrayals of black people in the US that stir up some really unpleasant memories here. Maybe over there they're just random characters without any obvious racial undertones. But here, these images have meaning.
To be honest the thing with racism is people like to get offended by it. Its a great card to be able to play. I have a feeling most people really don't care that much. They just think they do as they've been conditioned to think they should.
The reason our society has finally learned to be offended by racism is that we've spent a few centuries seeing what happens between races when we laugh it off and just let things happen "naturally". That "conditioning" you speak of represents hundreds of years of cultural experience. The one solution we found that seems to work -- arbitrarily stigmatizing certain behaviors and attitudes toward race -- has now become ingrained in our social structure. It's probably unwise to throw that away.
I don't know why you think I'm referring to one specific race. In the context of this video, yes. But our revulsion toward perceived prejudice springs from bad experiences with many different events -- the Civil Rights movement is just the most recent thing. Before that was the Holocaust, and before that, slavery, and various pogroms and genocides, the wars between the Protestants and Catholics before that, and so on. The Civil Rights movement didn't come out of thin air, it's been gradual.
As for black people being the only ones "kicking up a fuss", you haven't read the papers much, have you? Muslims seem to be kicking up a pretty good "fuss" lately. So do Jews whenever something anti-semitic comes along. So do Catholics and Protestants in Ireland whenever that flares up. And in my experience, the "jokey racism" stuff usually conceals serious prejudices that affect people's actions. The "jokes" are used as a "safe" way to maintain those prejudices in your culture.
Most religious violence has been carried out by people of the same race to one and another so that has absolutely nothing to do with racism. So is a bit pointless to bring up really.
If we could sort out religious tolerance now that really would be something. That would be genuinely worthwhile.
These are not completely separate. The persecution of the Jews in Germany certainly was much more about race than religion. The hatred of Muslims also seems to have some component of dislike of Arabs. Dislike of Catholics, in my country, was historically just one part of the broader hatred of Italian and Mexican immigrants. It might be different where you are.
What I was trying to get at was just that racial sensitivity is not pointless. It's a guard wall against more serious prejudice.
i will be his dog
mattistoawesome 1 month ago
were everyone high in the 80s?
engcamel 9 months ago
Ooooh this is racist. i'm sick to death of hearing that excuse for everything.
RustiSwordz 10 months ago
@RustiSwordz this is the danger see. If you show this advert to a little kid, all they will see is the colourful music and characters, and funky music. They won't understand the stereotypes or overtones or anything.
Now....you can argue whether thats a good thing or a bad thing, but fact is WE know what racial overtones the advert has, WE know that yes it can be considered offensive, because we're adults.
BTW I love the music and the way the characters dance to the music.
kdreamland 6 months ago
@kdreamland fuck off man you know how to stop making things like this offensive? Stop finding them offensive. Kids might be fucking dense but they're not stupid enough to find a single stereotype in this. Who's the racist that came up with the stereotype that black kids get followed around by talking fucking crows?
Bilsabob 5 months ago
@Bilsabob LOL yeah ok. I guess the stereotyping of chinese people in the old bugs bunny cartoons is ok to you as well. Big chipmunk teeth with cymbal hats and 'slanty' eyes. But no kid would ever see that and think Chinese person, would they? They'd just see it as a colourful cartoon character, rich with hidden depths. /sarcasm
stop defending things you know are wrong, just because you dont find them offensive.
kdreamland 5 months ago
@kdreamland dude i watched that shit when i was a kid and i don't run around asking chinese people if their dad was a chipmunk. I'm from one of the most stereotyped nations in the world. Ireland. I don't carry a pot of fucking gold, i made it through the potato famine ok and i wasn't in the IRA but if someone said that shite to me i'd just think they had a kind of malnourished intelligence, i wouldn't weep and try and drown them is a sea of guilt with the contents of my bleeding heart.
Bilsabob 5 months ago
@Bilsabob Nice bilsabob. If only everyone was like you, there'd be no racism. Do you know what happened to this advert? It DIDN'T get banned. KIA-ORA pulled the advert themselves, they weren't told to take it down. They recognised that it is a little outdated in this environment.
BTW I used to know an irish kid in my school who got bullied, called a leprechaun and beat up and stuff. The fact is he was being bullied, and people were using stereotypes to isolate him. That's the danger dude.
kdreamland 5 months ago
@kdreamland does KIA-ORA even exist anymore? Fuck it man, its easy not to get bullied if your Irish just tell your bully that your da will blow his da up (See stereotypes). Its hard to draw a line between real racism and stereotyping i know. I have to agree there is one proper dodgy bit in this add when the tall basketball playing one just fucking up and arrives out of nowhere...slight overkill. peace buddy.
Bilsabob 5 months ago
@Bilsabob hey it's always good to have a proper debate now and then. peace to you too my friend
kdreamland 5 months ago
@Bilsabob ha ..... that made me chuckle
ThisIsJohnnyYEAH 3 months ago
my gosh .. ive just read all the racist bollox .. this ad is almost 30 years old !! ... of course it would be considered racist now .. but back then when we were kids and no one had actually TOLD us about racism it was just a just a happy advert that everyone loved and we all went round singing * i'll be your dawg* for months ..lol . Ease up people .
chrissyeggs 1 year ago 4
I loved this ad when i was a kid .. its so cheerful and catchy !... we used to run in to watch it .
chrissyeggs 1 year ago
And it means something in Maori I believe. Hello I think...
slilith1 1 year ago
I just can't stop hearing Tim's voice.
BroWhatever 1 year ago 8
Always loved this advert, timeless classic, never gets old!
PauliePauliePaulie2 1 year ago
Oh Tim...
from Spaced...
What have you done to me?
And personally this is so ridiculous that it's hilarious >_> at first I was like "I don't know... how I feel about this"
But no I know it's love <_<
Lauryntonio 1 year ago 2
Lawlz 'keeora too orangy for crows a-doo-gee-doo-gee-doo-gee-do-do'
Missjasperhale123 1 year ago
They look like the Dumbo crows.
CartoonCookie93 1 year ago
blah blah blah below! Who gives a fuck! If anything, this is a bittov a mindfuck - now I finally get this reference in Spaced "It's too orangey for crows." God thisd be great to seee high/drunk!
blarsen301 1 year ago
these is awsome and old i love it
xelliex1231 1 year ago
this may be racist but that beat is SICK!
Barshki 2 years ago 3
i love this advert 'ill be your dog!' haha if you look on truffle shuffle theres a t.shirt with it on its so cool! xx how is it racist? i just dont get why people are making a massive fuss over it! xx
ChowMySista 2 years ago
I suppose it's also discrimination that he doesn't give his dog any then. Someone call the RSPCA.
Seriously, get a grip. Great advert!
GuvnorConroy 2 years ago 2
I remember this advert. Always loved it when I was a kid.
WTP2k 2 years ago 3
Oregano or oregano to you.
jerrylambert 2 years ago
....this is so confusing, but in no way racist. Although here in Australia almost nothing is racist, especially not that Jackson jive Hey Hey skit.
mouseman2231 2 years ago
I thought I was the only person who found that to be nightmarish.
Asarelah 2 years ago
its a avertisment it is not racist you dont like it dont watch it
bilbobagins1951 2 years ago 5
damn crows. always stealing my orange juice and playing that dadgum hippity-hop music. they oughta go back where they came from.... uh, the sky. or a tree.
seriously, this actually aired? where?
Xezlec 2 years ago
The united kingdom, how is it racist though?
Rmg12 2 years ago 4
Well, I mean, all the characters except the dog are black, and they're all pretty painful black stereotypes.
I see you're in the UK. Maybe these images don't have the same cultural resonance for you guys that they have in the US. These are all stock characters from old theatrical portrayals of black people in the US that stir up some really unpleasant memories here. Maybe over there they're just random characters without any obvious racial undertones. But here, these images have meaning.
Xezlec 2 years ago
they were based ion the dumbo crows. Also the kid is black too. Yeah i do see the stereotypes though - basketballer etc
Rmg12 2 years ago 3
it is from the 80s and 90s thougfh
Rmg12 2 years ago
To be honest the thing with racism is people like to get offended by it. Its a great card to be able to play. I have a feeling most people really don't care that much. They just think they do as they've been conditioned to think they should.
WTP2k 2 years ago
The reason our society has finally learned to be offended by racism is that we've spent a few centuries seeing what happens between races when we laugh it off and just let things happen "naturally". That "conditioning" you speak of represents hundreds of years of cultural experience. The one solution we found that seems to work -- arbitrarily stigmatizing certain behaviors and attitudes toward race -- has now become ingrained in our social structure. It's probably unwise to throw that away.
Xezlec 2 years ago
Actually not really. Your referring specifically to when a race, one single race, was victimised.
And its not been over hundreds of years. The whole this is racist, thats racist thing has been going on less than 50 years.
I mean theres plenty of jokey stereotype racism everywhere at lots of groups and most of the people involved don't care that much.
Only one group of people really kick up a fuss.
WTP2k 2 years ago 3
I don't know why you think I'm referring to one specific race. In the context of this video, yes. But our revulsion toward perceived prejudice springs from bad experiences with many different events -- the Civil Rights movement is just the most recent thing. Before that was the Holocaust, and before that, slavery, and various pogroms and genocides, the wars between the Protestants and Catholics before that, and so on. The Civil Rights movement didn't come out of thin air, it's been gradual.
Xezlec 2 years ago
As for black people being the only ones "kicking up a fuss", you haven't read the papers much, have you? Muslims seem to be kicking up a pretty good "fuss" lately. So do Jews whenever something anti-semitic comes along. So do Catholics and Protestants in Ireland whenever that flares up. And in my experience, the "jokey racism" stuff usually conceals serious prejudices that affect people's actions. The "jokes" are used as a "safe" way to maintain those prejudices in your culture.
Xezlec 2 years ago
Religion and racism are rather different.
Most religious violence has been carried out by people of the same race to one and another so that has absolutely nothing to do with racism. So is a bit pointless to bring up really.
If we could sort out religious tolerance now that really would be something. That would be genuinely worthwhile.
WTP2k 2 years ago 2
These are not completely separate. The persecution of the Jews in Germany certainly was much more about race than religion. The hatred of Muslims also seems to have some component of dislike of Arabs. Dislike of Catholics, in my country, was historically just one part of the broader hatred of Italian and Mexican immigrants. It might be different where you are.
What I was trying to get at was just that racial sensitivity is not pointless. It's a guard wall against more serious prejudice.
Xezlec 2 years ago 2
This will all change once we make contact with an alien race, which should be soon by my calculation.
jerrylambert 2 years ago
oh god what is this frightening piece of racism
whiteash002 2 years ago
Hey! Spaced!
slilith1 2 years ago 2
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testing223 2 years ago 24
@testing223 this isn't meant to be racist
rocksoliddude1 1 year ago
@testing223 u should see dumbo
SpiderFan23 10 months ago
Holy shit that groove is fuckin' fresh
Barshki 2 years ago 2
I agree.
Nanowarex 2 years ago
LOL, Spaced! It's too orangy for crows!
FreakinSweet86 2 years ago 2
We'll be singing this one in the pub next week
dog3413 2 years ago
That Spaced DVD i got for christmas now makes sense. i didnt understand the joke before.
dancedance64 3 years ago 5
yeah I thought they were talking about The Cure doing some kind of commercial for Tang or some shit. lmmfao
jerrylambert 2 years ago
officially made my day =]
gooooooooooooo
itsafarfarbetterthin 3 years ago
Loz54 is a gaylord :)
DrLokoss 3 years ago
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XirixLunara 3 years ago
how is it racist?
mattluntley 2 years ago
it just is. against crows.
StruhDaehYm 2 years ago
Yo you kinda dumb bro.
OpheliaImmortal 2 years ago
This has Ralph Bakshi written all over it.
Diskoboy1974 3 years ago
shite kool. thanks for postin!!! Ledgend
claxxix1 3 years ago
Spaced suddenly makes so much more sense!
romuluscrohns 3 years ago 48
haha yeah
"is it because i sang the music for the kia ora advert?"
"ohh i remember that its too orangey for crows!"
dokedude 3 years ago 2
@romuluscrohns Hahaha^^ For that... I love you..:P
666psychoneurosis666 1 year ago
@666psychoneurosis666
Thanks!
romuluscrohns 1 year ago
@romuluscrohns
just depends on how old you are.
babyishlemon 2 months ago
hahahah where did you find this! mental!!
inksoup 3 years ago