Aaron,,this is easily one of my favorite videos on youtube.It is unfortunate to read some of the misunderstandings and mindlocks people display here in the comments section
Love the concept of this video. But the "Evolution vs Creationism" is one of those things that doesn't belong in this video. We are an evolved species that was created. And yes there is such thing as genuine authentic truth. In this particular time configuration, in this dimension, there are valid truths, which apply to this particular reality. Yes, in other realities, the truth changes, but that's irrelavent. We are currently a "creation" by reptilian cultures, who dominate this reality.
But if you have a twisted ankle, it would be unwise to pass one up. Be forever openminded, in every way. Religious people should be open to the errors of their ways, people with no religion should be as well. If anything--we should be tolerant.
And that is my random rant lol.
I will say--I'm a religious person, at this point in my very young life my belief system gives me purpose--something to strive towards, something to hope for.
something that brings you fulfilment, and happiness--and hopefully that is something that brings fulfilment and happiness to others, not pain and strife. Religion is not evil or good any more than nuclear energy is evil or good, it takes one idiot to make a mistake, and suddenly everyone is afraid of it.
So--Genesis 1 and 2 should be read poetically, And it can even be read as a myth, that's perfectly logical in context. But you must understand the authorial intentions. It was to give man an identity, and a purpose.Science doesn't always give us purpose--it is the means by which we discover purpose, whatever that looks like to an individual. Perhaps that purpose is to discover, attain knowledge. Perhaps wisdom, perhaps love. Who knows, create your own purpose,
creation of man whom he said was made "in our image". (perhaps in reference to the Trinity, or God and his Angels... Up for debate--not the point) Translated properly this does not mean "looking like him" but it means "as his regents". Man was the most special creation--and was given authority and responsibility. Not just a slave race.
Mesopotamian story of creation. Where a younger deity rips the older in half, using the carcass to create/separate the "heavens and the earth" and using the blood to create humans as a slave race. We think in facts and science--we want to know why. The authors of genesis 1 and 2 wanted to explain *who*. They wrote of a deity who created the earth specifically and with care-using his words to speak things into existence (so out of himself, not with violence) calling it good--ending with the crea
Whoa dude. To an extent I agree with you completely and passionately.
But surely you believe everything that you just said, you believe it to be fact--if not truth. Otherwise you would not have said it.
This is something you are passionate about-very obviously.
You made a direct hit to christianity which I did not appreciate. Creationism-evolution. Genesis chapter one and two are *poetry* and should not be read literally. That's silly. The author(s) of this book wrote it to counter the Mesopo
We still have to fight the ones in power. I like the video. I like the idea of a natural resource based economy that recycles and respects our mother earth. But WE STILL HAVE ONE LAST FIGHT. Call it a War for Peace, the fight for power, the fight for change. We will have to "fight" to get these people in power to listen to us...
@ccsb101 "Don't fight forces -- use them" // "You can never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” - Buckminster Fuller
Ideas are better than "belief"....I read this concept in a book called "Shaving the inside of your head" about 20 years ago....I'm glad it is an "idea" that is finally getting cycled around ... ;) Thx for the upload.
I enjoyed the video, but even more the civilized discussion between the author and "TheHeurist". If only we could be this civilized and a species, we would be allot better of. Thumbs up for both.
@TheHeurist no worries, lol, i read them in the right order (the order they showed up in my email box).
thanks for taking the time to put together the well thought out critiques. I always appreciate constructive criticism. I am compiling your notes right now into a word doc so I can create a proper response.
-The film states that understanding is enough to guide us morally (with respect to behavior). The author's evidence to support this claim contains elements that are not bounded to understanding per se, rather involve precursors such as self-awareness, empathy, feeling, and identification.
-The film is telling us not to believe what we understand differently than others! I had to listen to it a few times to trust my take on it! (see for yourself at 5:06). Perhaps he means that we should not believe what we understand?
-The film states that valid questioning can never come from belief, but only from reasoned evidence resulting in an updated understanding. Logicians and mathematicians have been reasoning from belief for a very long time.
-The film CORRECTLY tells us that we cling to previously held notions without realizing it.
-The film falsely states that observable changes in species is due to artificial selection. The correct term is "natural selection".
-The film implies that creationism is unsupported truth whilst evolution is more likely. The truth is that both could be supported by a sound logical system.
-Truth in the film is characterized to be sort of like infinity, in that it can be approached yet never attained. Mathematicians have been dealing with multiple truths and infinities for a long time.
-The spectrum of truth in the film moves from black to white with varying shades of grey (in order to prevent dichotomies), yet misses the fact that truth moves in many dimensions - in shades of color.
-The film states that not a single thing or person is completely bad or completely good and misses the true intention of such phrasing: namely, that there are things that evolve us and there are things that devolve us.
-The film limits itself to a primitive logic of true and false. Modern logic is generations beyond this.
-The spectrum of truth in the film moves from black to white with varying shades of grey (in order to prevent dichotomies), yet misses the fact that truth moves in many dimensions - in shades of color.
-The film CORRECTLY speaks about aligning ourselves with new realities. I agree with this because the reality I know is directly influenced by what I am at any given moment 'tuned into'.
-The film criticizes emotion as being inadequate because it proposes that emotion is slower and more stubborn in comparison.
-The films wants to claim that understandings are somehow better than beliefs by attributing "understanding" with qualities superior to those of belief. This is to forget that even understanding can be staunchly dogmatized. The difference is meaningless.
-The film subjugates emotional attachment and tries to separate it from understanding thereby reducing our potential once again.
-Then there is the idea that everything should rather be understood as much as possible - on the surface a noble sounding approach - however in its depth is saying that primarily that which is understandable is that which most likely is. The U (Universe) has more to offer us than understanding alone can deal with. Another problem with understanding is that we are using a small part of our potential.
-There is also an implicit and explicit claim that having a belief is something to be avoided. This is nihilism being packaged as healthy skepticism. There are times when belief is not only useful, but even necessary.
I will make this as brief as possible and start with the main premise:
-+-"Believe Nothing, but understand as much as you can" whilst being very seductive, is not incorrect and not even advisable. If the main premise had been (as is also mentioned in the film); "we cannot know everything for sure ever", that would have been acceptable for me.
-The film contains a subtle blurring of the definition of belief recasting it to be synonymous with dogmatic belief.
we are anonymous, we are aware of the corruption in the world's governments and their apathy for the human lives because of money.
we are aware of the governments' attempt to cover on the news of the rebellions to keep us as slaves for the current system.
we are anonymous, we declare war on the corrupted system, join the plan to get your freedom and rights back. you are a human being, your life has value. we are anonymous, we are legion, expect us!
Religion is not the same thing as having a Relationship with Jesus Christ. And God did create the universe, not evolution. But believe what you want. I do like most of this video.
@stevenmarkgalway, Well the two terms "a god" in lower case G refers to any single idol such as "god of the Sun," or the "Water god" etc. And the upper case God refers to the all knowing single God. But, it does absolutely take faith to believe in God. Or any god for that matter. But I encourage you to take an educated look at Creation vs Evolution. There is not real answer to prove evolution. But there's a lot of evidence to suggest in a universal intelligent design. Still a step of faith thoh.
PS I'm not referring to a belief system - eg a religion. I am referring to 'beliefs', as that is the subject which you may have limited..perspective wise...from this video. A religion is a large collection of beliefs. I don't follow a concrete belief sytem, and feel free..to chose..what I believe...in any moment..of the continuous now. Big Love.
Hi :)Beliefs are what physical reality is all about. A belief is simply a thought that you keep thinking..and a truth is a belief that you've held for a certain period of time.All are evolving and interchangeable. It's imposiible to not have beliefs..if you have a physical mind, but it's very important to choose beliefs that serve one's experience positively..and redefine the beliefs that don't.To believe in nothing..is a belief in itself. Validation of all perspectives provides better service.
@sachmofranklin What is a belief, really? It is impossible to be 100% sure about anything. The scientific method allows us to gain a closer approximation to how things really are, not obtain truths. To believe one knows the "truth" is a form of delusion stemming from ego. You can try and understand and learn to the best of your ability, but to hold a static belief is intrinsically invalid, and detrimental to true dynamic understanding. I am just reiterating the video... but think about it.
Every perspective is valid my friend. Perhaps if you re-read what I wrote, you'll notice that I'm not referring to any stasis, objective truths, or any absolute knowing. One can't truly prove anything to another, however, 'I believe' all truths are true..from every perspective..and the only constant/certainty is change - and it doesn't matter if anyone else believes *this belief* of mine/another. You can be 100 % sure on one thing though - You exist. To experience, you must be.
@sachmofranklin Forgive me, but I do not quite understand the point you are making here. Faith is an example of an extreme form of belief based on lack of understanding. You may believe in a flying spaghetti monster, but this is based on zero approximation or understanding of reality. I think it is important to assume the invalidity of every belief, as "truth" is an intangible abstraction. It is intellectually more honest to yourself to further your understanding based on available evidence.
@InvertedFox From what you wrote, I just realised that you may not ironically be aware that: ''It is impossible to be 100% sure about anything'' is a Belief. ''The scientific method allows us to gain a closer approximation'' is a Belief. ''To believe one knows the "truth" is a form of delusion stemming from ego'' is a Belief etc..UNLESS,of course, you don't 'believe' in anything your expressing..and you never have. Do you believe you love your mother? Can you scientifically 'approximise' it?
@sachmofranklin My statement that "It is impossible to be 100% sure about anything" is based on my understanding of the nature of consciousness in relationship to the environment, and of the uncertainty principal within physics. If evidence emerges that illustrates otherwise, then my understanding would develop accordingly. I am expressing my approximation of the way things are, that is all.
@sachmofranklin My love for my mother is not an external attribute of the environment, therefore scientific approximation is not applicable. What I am expressing is my understanding of consciousness in relationship to the environment. Consciousness in isolation is different. I do not "believe" I love my mother, I experience it directly. My consciousness is external to you, and therefore you could only hope to approximate the nature of my love for my mother, you cannot possibly know it.
@InvertedFox I see, well, do you *believe* that.. ''love for my mother is not an external attribute of the environment'' is a belief??. Do you believe..that you ''experience it directly''?? Do you believe that ''..a scientific approximation is not applicable'' ?? If you, do, can you scientifically prove that? Do you believe that only your infinitely evolving beliefs are valid, and that any others are not?? Are these not all your Beliefs?? Happy pondering brother. Now, I (believe I) must go..
@sachmofranklin Not at all, I am just expressing my perception and understanding of the environment, and inevitably it differs greatly from other peoples perceptions and understandings. That is the point, really. "Truth" is a conceptual abstraction. Our environment is fundamentally mathematical, and we can only ever approximate mathematically based on available evidence at any given moment in time. It is clear that we have different perspectives on this, so lets leave it at that. All the best!
@InvertedFox PS I'm not referring to a belief system - eg a religion. I am referring to 'beliefs', as that is the subject which you may have limited..perspective wise...from this video. A religion is a large collection of beliefs. I don't follow a concrete belief sytem, and feel free..to chose..what I believe...in any moment..of the continuous now. Big Love.
If I were an atheist, this would probably make sense; but I'd have to be totally nihilistic to go for it. There is no man who is smarter than the earth that was here before any of us. I don't "believe" this video. It doesn't make a lick of sense.
Wow such a validation to how I have worded things; BECAUSE I JUST KNOW.:-)) Fantastical Share with humanity.Peace and Love.:-)) <3 TO ALL Parts of our Whole; may we get in SYNC with our thoughts and MAKE things happen. Terrifice information in this vid.
There's a lot about this that sounds like things I was saying in one of my videos about spiritual narrative. Maybe a semantic quibble here but you can say, "I believe..." and be open to evolution in belief as readily as you can say "I understand that..." or "I think..." I agree with the core point but don't think it's necessary to toss the word "belief" out just because belief gets abused. The issue isn't belief as such, the issue is singular, absolute "truth" and certitude of monopoly in truth.
@Realjhad You're not supposed to 'believe' anything really... you have the freedom to believe (or more correctly) to 'evaluate as absolute' anything you want to...
The problem of course there is that if you go down that road, in believing things...any things...then you will form an emotional attachment to those beliefs...and there is no turning back without serious emotional harm.
there is a bit deeper aspect of understanding as well ... often times people can give you advice based on something ... but u can take that advice and new knowledge and apply it in different ways to grow your own ability to understand and perceive
We ask you remove all support to the TVP and TZM and add clips t o show how you outgrown such follies. We also ask if you been asked to give donations and did to report them to the FBI and IRS at worldpress com
Join the movement to clo0se them down and stop the violence before it starts! help us save the poor members we know will be 1st drafted in the war and 1st to die as History tries to repeat itself.
have pity on the Victims of TVP and TZM and reach out to quit before it is too late!
@Peterwhitlock Jesus Christ... let go man. Let go of the faith and the ego, understand! I am sure you are a kind/thoughtful person, but you are deluding yourself like so many, and it is tragic.
\I understand all religionsd and faith better thyan most priest of the planet YOU DUNCE
so I teach beyond religion to the real key and real seal of the Universe and so the real teachings of the scriptures and the real things they build...you did no research and so act on emotion over logic and choise to be ignorant over learning then point to me how ignorant you are on the subject you never took up to let go to prove you are worthless bum in this subject you never should of spoke
@Peterwhitlock I have no idea what you are trying to say. Try using more punctuation to break up the rhythm of your text. I get that you are trying to insult me but its a little incoherent.
this logic is very flawed since we say now that each atom of your body comes not from just stars be a whole other universe that was gobbled up and then spit back out just like quasars do. You are possibly the reenactment of a past universe long dead and echoed into this big bang.Fossil record shows only life... what is life?
i care not ether way... Jesus gave us the true perfect circular village as his eternal proof of far superior wisdom from far in our past (12,000years MINIMUM)
@saydaysago2008 My guess (and its a guess) is that it doesn't mean much... well not if you go by the semantic understanding of the word 'mean' in that context.
I love the idea of a united cause for a higher consciousness.but unfortunately, not everybody is raised the right way, and some turn out without a chance to understand the idea of their own conceptual consciousness advancing. Good Video!!
Quest for better understanding without the guilt, lol. I can respect and dig that. By viewing this video convert me to atheism? No! Nor was it trying to build a case for it either. Just don't be afraid to seek answers and ask questions. What you know mixed with what you've just learned only makes you a better person. Plus this video was very well made, after viewing I felt very informed and enlighten, bravo.~Phurdrick
@breathoffreshair360 I doubt one could be 'converted' to atheism.... I think 'deconverted from [insert god here]' would be a more apt description...
But yeah... beliefs are pretty move immovable objects without one doing serious damage ... understanding however is a lot more ...erm... fluid and safe.
I can't tell you how much a relief it was seeing this video you've made btw.
I have been trying to tell people this for quite some time now.
Drop your belief systems, they are what makes humans our own worst enemy.
Although I do think that within the confines of our 3rd dimension in which we live there are certain truths that will forever remain the same. The scientific method can tell us these truths... for example, mercury is poisonous.
@StopTheRobbery2 Truths... hmmm.. and "mercury is poisonous".. well yes if you ingest it... but if you use it to tell the temperature than perhaps a little less poisonous...So I suppose oxygen is poisonous too...despite your fondness for the stuff it will kill you...
Perfect! I was thinking this way for a long time ago and I didn't find a way to explain it, and this does it in a perfect way! Congratulations, you surely deserve them!
Fucking unreal mang! You literally explained my whole feelings on life as of recently. I'll be using this video to explain to people how one should consider living their lives in the world today where knowledge changes so fast you barely have time to learn it.
I don't know where you get all this material from. (lol at american psycho)
'draw the map, as you discover the landscape. Only a fool believes that he knows what's past the next mountain before he's crossed it' *facebook status*
I like how you subliminally brainwash me into being a sheep at the very end, by alternating between the image and the website. That was cool. I had a lot of ideas right before that. I'm thirsty. I'm gonna go drink a coke.
@MrBananaverde i think he's talking about when i flash my website link up at the end? is it subliminal because it skips out like that? i was just having fun. with the editing. it stays on for a full second at the end of the clip, hardly 'subliminal brainwashing'.
@saydaysago2008 Egg Zackley. You have exceptional talent. It was captivating, and content/quality-wise it is on the same level with National Geographic, Discovery & TLC. Keep it up.
Super gay video. How could you NOT support any of this? Hies not convincing me, I'm already there. Who is he trying to catch with this video? All the treehuggers does already believe, sorry idea this shit. Do the same voiceover with something offensive, to catch the attention of somebody new to the idea.
The old paradigm is working less and less and will disappear. Critical thinking opens us to ourselves. There is nothing to fear or believe; we are the universe and it is love at it's core. Push out from the river bank and join the current. We are all there ever was, or ever will be.
great video saydaysago! quite 'in line' with certain multi-ordinal understandings I am realizing by reading Science and Sanity (Alfred Korzybski). LOL have you read it? If not, enjoy!
@IntuitiveLeap We are most certainly limited by understanding by a pretty poor model filtered by our senses and nervous system. Korzybski I found a little erm... boring.... nothing against the man but his writing style is a tad yawn inducing.... one to go to bed and nod off to sleep with I think...
@death5ter Yep only a decade or so to the singularity... and just like moores law came to pass then so will the singularity... its a mathematical certainty at this point.
Unfortunately most people are totally unaware of its impact... and the ones least aware are also the ones it will most impact.
@pastelky Thanks for that tip... Now how the hell did I miss that movie? startling... absolutely starling I'd never even heard of it! And its not like it wasn't a decent budget movie...
Facepalms and load up his favorite bitorrent proggy... to erm... 'sample for educational purposes only'
Aaron,,this is easily one of my favorite videos on youtube.It is unfortunate to read some of the misunderstandings and mindlocks people display here in the comments section
deanjdk 1 week ago
very nice!
fkrkrkgnf 3 weeks ago
This video should be mandatory in school, once a year, every year...
MrMillsmo 4 weeks ago
Love the concept of this video. But the "Evolution vs Creationism" is one of those things that doesn't belong in this video. We are an evolved species that was created. And yes there is such thing as genuine authentic truth. In this particular time configuration, in this dimension, there are valid truths, which apply to this particular reality. Yes, in other realities, the truth changes, but that's irrelavent. We are currently a "creation" by reptilian cultures, who dominate this reality.
supermuble 1 month ago
This video makes me want to kill!
420PATROCK 1 month ago in playlist Inspiring
@420PATROCK don't do it! inspiring murderers was never my intention!
saydaysago2008 1 month ago
@saydaysago2008 Just kidding! lol Jesus saves satans slaves
420PATROCK 1 month ago
But if you have a twisted ankle, it would be unwise to pass one up. Be forever openminded, in every way. Religious people should be open to the errors of their ways, people with no religion should be as well. If anything--we should be tolerant.
And that is my random rant lol.
I will say--I'm a religious person, at this point in my very young life my belief system gives me purpose--something to strive towards, something to hope for.
I don't think that's a bad thing :)
I liked this video :)
dnatsrednUouYoD 2 months ago
something that brings you fulfilment, and happiness--and hopefully that is something that brings fulfilment and happiness to others, not pain and strife. Religion is not evil or good any more than nuclear energy is evil or good, it takes one idiot to make a mistake, and suddenly everyone is afraid of it.
They say religion is a crutch...
dnatsrednUouYoD 2 months ago
So--Genesis 1 and 2 should be read poetically, And it can even be read as a myth, that's perfectly logical in context. But you must understand the authorial intentions. It was to give man an identity, and a purpose.Science doesn't always give us purpose--it is the means by which we discover purpose, whatever that looks like to an individual. Perhaps that purpose is to discover, attain knowledge. Perhaps wisdom, perhaps love. Who knows, create your own purpose,
dnatsrednUouYoD 2 months ago
creation of man whom he said was made "in our image". (perhaps in reference to the Trinity, or God and his Angels... Up for debate--not the point) Translated properly this does not mean "looking like him" but it means "as his regents". Man was the most special creation--and was given authority and responsibility. Not just a slave race.
dnatsrednUouYoD 2 months ago
Mesopotamian story of creation. Where a younger deity rips the older in half, using the carcass to create/separate the "heavens and the earth" and using the blood to create humans as a slave race. We think in facts and science--we want to know why. The authors of genesis 1 and 2 wanted to explain *who*. They wrote of a deity who created the earth specifically and with care-using his words to speak things into existence (so out of himself, not with violence) calling it good--ending with the crea
dnatsrednUouYoD 2 months ago
Whoa dude. To an extent I agree with you completely and passionately.
But surely you believe everything that you just said, you believe it to be fact--if not truth. Otherwise you would not have said it.
This is something you are passionate about-very obviously.
You made a direct hit to christianity which I did not appreciate. Creationism-evolution. Genesis chapter one and two are *poetry* and should not be read literally. That's silly. The author(s) of this book wrote it to counter the Mesopo
dnatsrednUouYoD 2 months ago
i support zeitgeist. not the venus project so much anymore based on my understanding.
yourmajezty 3 months ago
Good stuff. I agree with every word and have come to the same conclusions (TZM and TVP). I *heart* science! :)
webtweakers 3 months ago
We still have to fight the ones in power. I like the video. I like the idea of a natural resource based economy that recycles and respects our mother earth. But WE STILL HAVE ONE LAST FIGHT. Call it a War for Peace, the fight for power, the fight for change. We will have to "fight" to get these people in power to listen to us...
ccsb101 3 months ago
@ccsb101 "Don't fight forces -- use them" // "You can never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.” - Buckminster Fuller
saydaysago2008 3 months ago 5
@ccsb101 A war for peace doesn't bring a change in terms of how society functions, it simply brings a change in whom it obeys.
Domsa19 2 months ago
someone could write everything they say in the video, please!?
i would like to translate it, but i ain't got 'good ears' !
C'mon everybody, c'mon someone!!!
help other languages people, thinking!
ZumbiDesperto 4 months ago
Profound truth my friend. Ive been following your videos for awhile and i think you got a good head on your shoulders. Keep it up
pigpen9191 4 months ago
@saydaysago2008
I really enjoyed the video. Could you tell me what was the movie playing during the intro?
TheGhostGorilla 5 months ago
@TheGhostGorilla it's from the movie 'dogma'. kind of a silly flick, but some true moments of genius. :)
saydaysago2008 5 months ago 2
Ideas are better than "belief"....I read this concept in a book called "Shaving the inside of your head" about 20 years ago....I'm glad it is an "idea" that is finally getting cycled around ... ;) Thx for the upload.
Gingerblaze 5 months ago
I enjoyed the video, but even more the civilized discussion between the author and "TheHeurist". If only we could be this civilized and a species, we would be allot better of. Thumbs up for both.
JadeCat74 6 months ago
Thank you sincerely. This is my ..Understanding.. as well. All the best.
Maybe2348 6 months ago
2:53 There is no competition creationists (;
jgroves56 6 months ago
you absolutely changed my mind, thank you for this video
ddk992 6 months ago
It inspired me to write an article! XD
ElThrash1 6 months ago
FANTASTIC VIDEO -VERY ACCURATE and true - or somewhere close to it
MasterVAB 6 months ago
I just would like to say this is the most intelligent and logical video I've ever seen.
Periphery830 7 months ago
Great video!
somaticcinema 7 months ago
Please don't take me personally. I mean no affront to you.
TheHeurist 7 months ago
I should have wrote my comments the other way around! You need to read them from the bottom up.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
@TheHeurist no worries, lol, i read them in the right order (the order they showed up in my email box).
thanks for taking the time to put together the well thought out critiques. I always appreciate constructive criticism. I am compiling your notes right now into a word doc so I can create a proper response.
stay tuned.
saydaysago2008 7 months ago
@TheHeurist watch?v=dVsMQzi9eWc
my response to your comments. :D
saydaysago2008 7 months ago
-The film states that understanding is enough to guide us morally (with respect to behavior). The author's evidence to support this claim contains elements that are not bounded to understanding per se, rather involve precursors such as self-awareness, empathy, feeling, and identification.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The film is telling us not to believe what we understand differently than others! I had to listen to it a few times to trust my take on it! (see for yourself at 5:06). Perhaps he means that we should not believe what we understand?
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The film states that valid questioning can never come from belief, but only from reasoned evidence resulting in an updated understanding. Logicians and mathematicians have been reasoning from belief for a very long time.
-The film CORRECTLY tells us that we cling to previously held notions without realizing it.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The film CORRECTLY maintains that we can't be afraid to question our assumptions.
-The film fails to mention intuition and its necessary appearance when speaking about assumptions.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The film CORRECTLY maintains that certainty is an unattainable abstraction.
-The film misses the fact that we can, however, talk as if certainty were attainable without fallacy. (This is sometimes VERY useful.)
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The film falsely states that observable changes in species is due to artificial selection. The correct term is "natural selection".
-The film implies that creationism is unsupported truth whilst evolution is more likely. The truth is that both could be supported by a sound logical system.
-Truth in the film is characterized to be sort of like infinity, in that it can be approached yet never attained. Mathematicians have been dealing with multiple truths and infinities for a long time.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The spectrum of truth in the film moves from black to white with varying shades of grey (in order to prevent dichotomies), yet misses the fact that truth moves in many dimensions - in shades of color.
-The film states that not a single thing or person is completely bad or completely good and misses the true intention of such phrasing: namely, that there are things that evolve us and there are things that devolve us.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The film limits itself to a primitive logic of true and false. Modern logic is generations beyond this.
-The spectrum of truth in the film moves from black to white with varying shades of grey (in order to prevent dichotomies), yet misses the fact that truth moves in many dimensions - in shades of color.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The film falsely states that understanding somthing can help to save us from a false dichotomy better than belief can.
-The film subtly poses the same contradiction it is trying to prevent by excluding the middle between belief and understanding.
-The film criticises absolutist thinking, yet there are instances in the U where absolutes present themselves.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The film CORRECTLY speaks about aligning ourselves with new realities. I agree with this because the reality I know is directly influenced by what I am at any given moment 'tuned into'.
-The film criticizes emotion as being inadequate because it proposes that emotion is slower and more stubborn in comparison.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-The films wants to claim that understandings are somehow better than beliefs by attributing "understanding" with qualities superior to those of belief. This is to forget that even understanding can be staunchly dogmatized. The difference is meaningless.
-The film subjugates emotional attachment and tries to separate it from understanding thereby reducing our potential once again.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-Then there is the idea that everything should rather be understood as much as possible - on the surface a noble sounding approach - however in its depth is saying that primarily that which is understandable is that which most likely is. The U (Universe) has more to offer us than understanding alone can deal with. Another problem with understanding is that we are using a small part of our potential.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
-There is also an implicit and explicit claim that having a belief is something to be avoided. This is nihilism being packaged as healthy skepticism. There are times when belief is not only useful, but even necessary.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
I will make this as brief as possible and start with the main premise:
-+-"Believe Nothing, but understand as much as you can" whilst being very seductive, is not incorrect and not even advisable. If the main premise had been (as is also mentioned in the film); "we cannot know everything for sure ever", that would have been acceptable for me.
-The film contains a subtle blurring of the definition of belief recasting it to be synonymous with dogmatic belief.
TheHeurist 7 months ago in playlist Inspiring
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stjamal11 7 months ago
Religion is not the same thing as having a Relationship with Jesus Christ. And God did create the universe, not evolution. But believe what you want. I do like most of this video.
DJTmaq 8 months ago in playlist Inspiring
@DJTmaq How do you know that god created the universe and what is a god? I just want to understand were you are coming from.
stevenmarkgalway 8 months ago
@stevenmarkgalway, Well the two terms "a god" in lower case G refers to any single idol such as "god of the Sun," or the "Water god" etc. And the upper case God refers to the all knowing single God. But, it does absolutely take faith to believe in God. Or any god for that matter. But I encourage you to take an educated look at Creation vs Evolution. There is not real answer to prove evolution. But there's a lot of evidence to suggest in a universal intelligent design. Still a step of faith thoh.
DJTmaq 8 months ago
GREAT VIDEO!!!!!
DJTmaq 8 months ago in playlist Inspiring
5 people would rather that someone else was in charge of their mind!
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
PS I'm not referring to a belief system - eg a religion. I am referring to 'beliefs', as that is the subject which you may have limited..perspective wise...from this video. A religion is a large collection of beliefs. I don't follow a concrete belief sytem, and feel free..to chose..what I believe...in any moment..of the continuous now. Big Love.
sachmofranklin 8 months ago
4 people dont understand LOL.....
bigmofodeal 9 months ago
Hi :)Beliefs are what physical reality is all about. A belief is simply a thought that you keep thinking..and a truth is a belief that you've held for a certain period of time.All are evolving and interchangeable. It's imposiible to not have beliefs..if you have a physical mind, but it's very important to choose beliefs that serve one's experience positively..and redefine the beliefs that don't.To believe in nothing..is a belief in itself. Validation of all perspectives provides better service.
sachmofranklin 9 months ago
@sachmofranklin What is a belief, really? It is impossible to be 100% sure about anything. The scientific method allows us to gain a closer approximation to how things really are, not obtain truths. To believe one knows the "truth" is a form of delusion stemming from ego. You can try and understand and learn to the best of your ability, but to hold a static belief is intrinsically invalid, and detrimental to true dynamic understanding. I am just reiterating the video... but think about it.
InvertedFox 8 months ago
@InvertedFox
Every perspective is valid my friend. Perhaps if you re-read what I wrote, you'll notice that I'm not referring to any stasis, objective truths, or any absolute knowing. One can't truly prove anything to another, however, 'I believe' all truths are true..from every perspective..and the only constant/certainty is change - and it doesn't matter if anyone else believes *this belief* of mine/another. You can be 100 % sure on one thing though - You exist. To experience, you must be.
sachmofranklin 8 months ago
@sachmofranklin Forgive me, but I do not quite understand the point you are making here. Faith is an example of an extreme form of belief based on lack of understanding. You may believe in a flying spaghetti monster, but this is based on zero approximation or understanding of reality. I think it is important to assume the invalidity of every belief, as "truth" is an intangible abstraction. It is intellectually more honest to yourself to further your understanding based on available evidence.
InvertedFox 8 months ago
@InvertedFox From what you wrote, I just realised that you may not ironically be aware that: ''It is impossible to be 100% sure about anything'' is a Belief. ''The scientific method allows us to gain a closer approximation'' is a Belief. ''To believe one knows the "truth" is a form of delusion stemming from ego'' is a Belief etc..UNLESS,of course, you don't 'believe' in anything your expressing..and you never have. Do you believe you love your mother? Can you scientifically 'approximise' it?
sachmofranklin 8 months ago
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@sachmofranklin My statement that "It is impossible to be 100% sure about anything" is based on my understanding of the nature of consciousness in relationship to the environment, and of the uncertainty principal within physics. If evidence emerges that illustrates otherwise, then my understanding would develop accordingly. I am expressing my approximation of the way things are, that is all.
InvertedFox 8 months ago
@sachmofranklin My love for my mother is not an external attribute of the environment, therefore scientific approximation is not applicable. What I am expressing is my understanding of consciousness in relationship to the environment. Consciousness in isolation is different. I do not "believe" I love my mother, I experience it directly. My consciousness is external to you, and therefore you could only hope to approximate the nature of my love for my mother, you cannot possibly know it.
InvertedFox 8 months ago
@InvertedFox I see, well, do you *believe* that.. ''love for my mother is not an external attribute of the environment'' is a belief??. Do you believe..that you ''experience it directly''?? Do you believe that ''..a scientific approximation is not applicable'' ?? If you, do, can you scientifically prove that? Do you believe that only your infinitely evolving beliefs are valid, and that any others are not?? Are these not all your Beliefs?? Happy pondering brother. Now, I (believe I) must go..
sachmofranklin 8 months ago
@sachmofranklin Not at all, I am just expressing my perception and understanding of the environment, and inevitably it differs greatly from other peoples perceptions and understandings. That is the point, really. "Truth" is a conceptual abstraction. Our environment is fundamentally mathematical, and we can only ever approximate mathematically based on available evidence at any given moment in time. It is clear that we have different perspectives on this, so lets leave it at that. All the best!
InvertedFox 8 months ago
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sachmofranklin 8 months ago
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@InvertedFox PS I'm not referring to a belief system - eg a religion. I am referring to 'beliefs', as that is the subject which you may have limited..perspective wise...from this video. A religion is a large collection of beliefs. I don't follow a concrete belief sytem, and feel free..to chose..what I believe...in any moment..of the continuous now. Big Love.
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sachmofranklin 9 months ago
If I were an atheist, this would probably make sense; but I'd have to be totally nihilistic to go for it. There is no man who is smarter than the earth that was here before any of us. I don't "believe" this video. It doesn't make a lick of sense.
sspsllc 9 months ago
@sspsllc "If I were an atheist, this would probably make sense" - Haha, is this meant to be ironic? :O
InvertedFox 8 months ago
3 people dont believe this :D
yoelfaura 9 months ago
Wow such a validation to how I have worded things; BECAUSE I JUST KNOW.:-)) Fantastical Share with humanity.Peace and Love.:-)) <3 TO ALL Parts of our Whole; may we get in SYNC with our thoughts and MAKE things happen. Terrifice information in this vid.
nancyl2 9 months ago
There's a lot about this that sounds like things I was saying in one of my videos about spiritual narrative. Maybe a semantic quibble here but you can say, "I believe..." and be open to evolution in belief as readily as you can say "I understand that..." or "I think..." I agree with the core point but don't think it's necessary to toss the word "belief" out just because belief gets abused. The issue isn't belief as such, the issue is singular, absolute "truth" and certitude of monopoly in truth.
chronalhouse 9 months ago
Really nice job!
rpm297 9 months ago
09:00 Carl Sagan, ?, Michio Kaku, Albert Einstein
ShittyAccount 9 months ago
@ShittyAccount
i used audio from george carlin and carl sagan.
saydaysago2008 9 months ago
@saydaysago2008 I am asking who is the person next to Carl Sagan in that image
ShittyAccount 9 months ago
@ShittyAccount ohh sorry. i forgot about that image. it's nikola tesla. :D
saydaysago2008 9 months ago 4
@saydaysago2008 thanks
ShittyAccount 9 months ago
why are we supposed to believe our government what they say about bin ladden?
Realjhad 9 months ago
@Realjhad don't
saydaysago2008 9 months ago 11
@saydaysago2008 Dont is right!
yourmajezty 8 months ago
@Realjhad You're not supposed to 'believe' anything really... you have the freedom to believe (or more correctly) to 'evaluate as absolute' anything you want to...
The problem of course there is that if you go down that road, in believing things...any things...then you will form an emotional attachment to those beliefs...and there is no turning back without serious emotional harm.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
Fantastic video. Thank you for putting this together.
wogboy711 10 months ago
there is a bit deeper aspect of understanding as well ... often times people can give you advice based on something ... but u can take that advice and new knowledge and apply it in different ways to grow your own ability to understand and perceive
rotcev1327 10 months ago
im guessing u were born ... say around late september?
rotcev1327 10 months ago
My dad always said never 'believe' anything you are told, not even by your teachers.
peterjol 10 months ago
We ask you remove all support to the TVP and TZM and add clips t o show how you outgrown such follies. We also ask if you been asked to give donations and did to report them to the FBI and IRS at worldpress com
Join the movement to clo0se them down and stop the violence before it starts! help us save the poor members we know will be 1st drafted in the war and 1st to die as History tries to repeat itself.
have pity on the Victims of TVP and TZM and reach out to quit before it is too late!
Peterwhitlock 10 months ago
@Peterwhitlock Jesus Christ... let go man. Let go of the faith and the ego, understand! I am sure you are a kind/thoughtful person, but you are deluding yourself like so many, and it is tragic.
InvertedFox 8 months ago
@InvertedFox
\I understand all religionsd and faith better thyan most priest of the planet YOU DUNCE
so I teach beyond religion to the real key and real seal of the Universe and so the real teachings of the scriptures and the real things they build...you did no research and so act on emotion over logic and choise to be ignorant over learning then point to me how ignorant you are on the subject you never took up to let go to prove you are worthless bum in this subject you never should of spoke
Peterwhitlock 3 months ago
@Peterwhitlock I have no idea what you are trying to say. Try using more punctuation to break up the rhythm of your text. I get that you are trying to insult me but its a little incoherent.
InvertedFox 3 months ago
this logic is very flawed since we say now that each atom of your body comes not from just stars be a whole other universe that was gobbled up and then spit back out just like quasars do. You are possibly the reenactment of a past universe long dead and echoed into this big bang.Fossil record shows only life... what is life?
i care not ether way... Jesus gave us the true perfect circular village as his eternal proof of far superior wisdom from far in our past (12,000years MINIMUM)
Peterwhitlock 10 months ago
Brilliant video. May I ask what video software you used?
Fartonymous 10 months ago
@Fartonymous mostly adobe premiere, some after effects. :)
saydaysago2008 10 months ago
hey where come from in a sperm of a monkey and evolve
into human dont brain wash peoples brain
bullcup 10 months ago
@bullcup would you please explain this further? i'm very curious as to what this means.
saydaysago2008 10 months ago
@saydaysago2008 My guess (and its a guess) is that it doesn't mean much... well not if you go by the semantic understanding of the word 'mean' in that context.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
Very well done
mwasmuth 11 months ago
thank you for this explanation friend! :)
RivaJazz 11 months ago
Thank you - a glimpse of the light beyond the veils we've drawn around ourselves.
jrcgarry 11 months ago
i "believe" the one person who disliked this is a douche bag -_-
thabadguyice 11 months ago
Brilliant,1 of the best vids iv seen ,love it
thepopesmokesdope81 11 months ago
Excelent! ----------NAMASTE-------
Profemiliomorles 11 months ago
I love the idea of a united cause for a higher consciousness.but unfortunately, not everybody is raised the right way, and some turn out without a chance to understand the idea of their own conceptual consciousness advancing. Good Video!!
Listentometalmusic 1 year ago
I love Pretty Lights!
thered702 1 year ago
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a good friend of mine used to say: ..when you stop learning, you start to die..
3dziggy 1 year ago
a good friend of mine used to say: "when you stop learning, you start to die.."
3dziggy 1 year ago
awesome vid... and awesome choice for the tune in the background... pretty lights ftw...
AquiVengaElSol 1 year ago
Fantastic.
Neanderthalcouzin 1 year ago
I love all your videos. <3
maarikaaa 1 year ago
great video! thank you...
mainjurii 1 year ago
Belief is a dangerous practice, understanding everything, as the manifestation of a process is what counts.
The self and the universe is a PROCESS, an arising .The cosmos is a VERB NOT a NOUN.
Now is all there is and it passes in an instant.
Namaste
smudge6699 1 year ago
Quest for better understanding without the guilt, lol. I can respect and dig that. By viewing this video convert me to atheism? No! Nor was it trying to build a case for it either. Just don't be afraid to seek answers and ask questions. What you know mixed with what you've just learned only makes you a better person. Plus this video was very well made, after viewing I felt very informed and enlighten, bravo.~Phurdrick
breathoffreshair360 1 year ago
@breathoffreshair360 I doubt one could be 'converted' to atheism.... I think 'deconverted from [insert god here]' would be a more apt description...
But yeah... beliefs are pretty move immovable objects without one doing serious damage ... understanding however is a lot more ...erm... fluid and safe.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
♥ .
MrMLD72MLD 1 year ago
@MrMLD72MLD Interesting!
breathoffreshair360 1 year ago
What movie was the beginning Chris Rock clip from??
StopTheRobbery2 1 year ago
@StopTheRobbery2
'dogma'.
great flick. :)
saydaysago2008 1 year ago 2
@saydaysago2008
Thanks man.. that is a great flick.
I can't tell you how much a relief it was seeing this video you've made btw.
I have been trying to tell people this for quite some time now.
Drop your belief systems, they are what makes humans our own worst enemy.
Although I do think that within the confines of our 3rd dimension in which we live there are certain truths that will forever remain the same. The scientific method can tell us these truths... for example, mercury is poisonous.
StopTheRobbery2 1 year ago
@StopTheRobbery2 Truths... hmmm.. and "mercury is poisonous".. well yes if you ingest it... but if you use it to tell the temperature than perhaps a little less poisonous...So I suppose oxygen is poisonous too...despite your fondness for the stuff it will kill you...
Its all a matter of perspective.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
you're a genius. thanks.
VenusAsABoyFilms 1 year ago
nice. like the background music... i was listening to it in my car earlier today!
jtmoneyky 1 year ago
Perfect! I was thinking this way for a long time ago and I didn't find a way to explain it, and this does it in a perfect way! Congratulations, you surely deserve them!
FredNugent23 1 year ago
I concur. Me, WE! Us.
teslaminded1 1 year ago
Fucking unreal mang! You literally explained my whole feelings on life as of recently. I'll be using this video to explain to people how one should consider living their lives in the world today where knowledge changes so fast you barely have time to learn it.
enticed2zeitgeist 1 year ago
Incredible vid dude, ty
TheUnslaved 1 year ago
nameste
papase7en 1 year ago
I don't know where you get all this material from. (lol at american psycho)
'draw the map, as you discover the landscape. Only a fool believes that he knows what's past the next mountain before he's crossed it' *facebook status*
LiamSwordsMedia 1 year ago
@LiamSwordsMedia
:D
i'll admit i was pretty pleased with that line myself, sometimes i get a spark of literary competency.
and the material? a little memory, mostly google image, youtube, and random word associations (google image helps with this too).
hope everything's well on the other side of the world :).
saydaysago2008 1 year ago
Thank you.
zgoodman87 1 year ago
really enjoyed this video, keep up the good work!
buzzmund 1 year ago
food for thought....... absolutely love this
nuksucow1983 1 year ago
Very cool work
Lbionic 1 year ago
I like how you subliminally brainwash me into being a sheep at the very end, by alternating between the image and the website. That was cool. I had a lot of ideas right before that. I'm thirsty. I'm gonna go drink a coke.
modernrockbro 1 year ago
@modernrockbro what? into being a sheep ? be more specific
MrBananaverde 1 year ago
@MrBananaverde i think he's talking about when i flash my website link up at the end? is it subliminal because it skips out like that? i was just having fun. with the editing. it stays on for a full second at the end of the clip, hardly 'subliminal brainwashing'.
that or he's just joking.
saydaysago2008 1 year ago
@saydaysago2008 Egg Zackley. You have exceptional talent. It was captivating, and content/quality-wise it is on the same level with National Geographic, Discovery & TLC. Keep it up.
modernrockbro 1 year ago
@modernrockbro thanks. :)
as for content/quality... we'll see once i learn to spell dependent.
saydaysago2008 1 year ago
Super gay video. How could you NOT support any of this? Hies not convincing me, I'm already there. Who is he trying to catch with this video? All the treehuggers does already believe, sorry idea this shit. Do the same voiceover with something offensive, to catch the attention of somebody new to the idea.
zekake 1 year ago
This video is amazing. I have a deep respect for you.
Cuiggy 1 year ago
Brilliant video, seems to summarize all the thoughts that I have had in my head but have been unable to put down and comprehend in such a manner.
Just brilliant, Thank you
heyiffy2000 1 year ago
Fantastic watch. Great footage of Carl Sagan, shame he's not still around to support this movement! Thanks very much, I shall share.
brucegalliver 1 year ago 23
@brucegalliver i think he would give everything he could to the movment he was anti war and he wonted the earth to be a better place
snakeboy742 1 year ago
You still amaze me dude. This is what ART is all about, showing the world as changeable, and help change it, for the better. THANK YOU!
ThePvthudson 1 year ago
GREAT video, you did a great job.
gavbag1234 1 year ago
I can't like this video enough times. This is awesome, keep it up.
ilam3d 1 year ago 23
Thank YOU~!
thinker900 1 year ago
Superb! Sharing right away. Grats for this nice video ; )
Peace.Love.Unity.Respect.!
TheZaotsu 1 year ago
Piscean Age = I Believe
Aquarian Age = I Know
The old paradigm is working less and less and will disappear. Critical thinking opens us to ourselves. There is nothing to fear or believe; we are the universe and it is love at it's core. Push out from the river bank and join the current. We are all there ever was, or ever will be.
rollsthepaul 1 year ago 2
This is awesome! Whats that badass smoke ribbon screen saver effect thing going on at about 3:00??
0sandoria0 1 year ago
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remorselessly stolen. :)
saydaysago2008 1 year ago
great video saydaysago! quite 'in line' with certain multi-ordinal understandings I am realizing by reading Science and Sanity (Alfred Korzybski). LOL have you read it? If not, enjoy!
IntuitiveLeap 1 year ago
@IntuitiveLeap We are most certainly limited by understanding by a pretty poor model filtered by our senses and nervous system. Korzybski I found a little erm... boring.... nothing against the man but his writing style is a tad yawn inducing.... one to go to bed and nod off to sleep with I think...
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
Thank You for this.... I've been living my life this way for a very long time =)
hardcoretruth71 1 year ago
Its a great video... thanks for all the superb work you do... George Carlin (0:
StellarLove66 1 year ago
2nd renaissance is coming... we are living in interesting times....
death5ter 1 year ago 2
@death5ter awsome comment very powerful words
AQUIPARAVIDEOS 11 months ago
@death5ter Yep only a decade or so to the singularity... and just like moores law came to pass then so will the singularity... its a mathematical certainty at this point.
Unfortunately most people are totally unaware of its impact... and the ones least aware are also the ones it will most impact.
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
8:52 dependance => dependence
rubbermuck 1 year ago
@rubbermuck i know i should learn how to spell, but i also think after effects should add a goddamn spell check feature. ;)
saydaysago2008 1 year ago
I am going to spread this one. Very well done!
Greetings from the Zeitgeist Movement Dutch Chapter.
meesterJos 1 year ago
You should definitely watch movie called "Agora", Its about how christian dark ages began
pastelky 1 year ago
@pastelky sounds interesting, thanks, i'll add it to the list.
saydaysago2008 1 year ago
@pastelky Thanks for that tip... Now how the hell did I miss that movie? startling... absolutely starling I'd never even heard of it! And its not like it wasn't a decent budget movie...
Facepalms and load up his favorite bitorrent proggy... to erm... 'sample for educational purposes only'
MumblingMickey 8 months ago
People like yourself give me great hope for the future. Peace.
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3VOLution3NO 1 year ago
Well done. Thank you.
olekstom 1 year ago
Like it
TZMMiami 1 year ago