This was written before the Magic Flute, and yes, Mozart quoted it, which was common at the time. While there are some quotes of Mozart finding fault with Clementi's music, they were apparently cordial and Clementi did seem to influence Mozart after their meeting.
This was written before the Magic Flute, and yes, Mozart quoted it, which was common at the time. While there are some nasty quotes of Mozart dissing Clementi's music, all evidence is that they were cordial and that Clementi did influence Mozart after their meeting.
@HenryClarson I agree. Beethoven thought Clementi was better than Mozart. I think he was underrated because he was Italian, not Austrian or German (and not living in Vienna). There are quite a few sonatas and I am trying to listen to all of them.
Come potete dire che Mozart ha "plagiato" questa sonata di Clementi se ha solo le prime 18 note simili, scusate...provate a confrontare il flauto magico con questa sonata....è totalmente diverso..
guarda che mozart ha ammesso di aver plagiato clementi. Anzi per essere precisi gli ha risposto: "certo che ti ho plagiato, ma io delle tue melodie so cosa farne, tu no".
I only recently discoverd this brilliant composer. I am biased towards Mozart and Haydn they are my favourites but i must admit that Clementi was argueably more technically gifted that both
I wouldn't say Mozart stole the theme. Closer is that he stole a figure or motif and took off in a new direction with it. Of course Clementi didn't see it that way.
questa è la famosa sonata che clementi suonò in occasione della celebre sfida tra il maestro e Mozart alla presenza dell'imperatore Giuseppe II a Vienna nel 1781 (fu dichiarata la parità tra i due musicisti)...per quanto riguarda la cadenza, preferisco quella fatta da Pietro Spada, anche se è più breve..
Yes you're right man...but have you listen to the Mozart'overture? Maybe Mozart "borrowed" that theme, but he made it sublime, splendid, a music for God..in other words we have the genius in one case the good musician in the other...
Mozart's ouverture is indeed splendid!!! It's rather strange that Mozart "borrowed" Clementi's theme, though- I read that he didn't really like Clementi much- I don't know why. Anyways, Clementi is amazing- as is Mozart. Thanks for uploading this- it's been really nice to listen to the original theme!
Hi Barbara. I have always known about this sonata as "inspiration" of Mozart's overture but this is the first time i listen to it. By the way Clementi looks to be not only a "virtuoso" but an indeed good composer! and listen after minute 3:16...a new style! Ciao
i am having a big headache finding the correct notes... i am having an even worse headache playing the whole song..
hardrocker475 9 months ago
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This was written before the Magic Flute, and yes, Mozart quoted it, which was common at the time. While there are some quotes of Mozart finding fault with Clementi's music, they were apparently cordial and Clementi did seem to influence Mozart after their meeting.
ATONAUPiC 9 months ago
This was written before the Magic Flute, and yes, Mozart quoted it, which was common at the time. While there are some nasty quotes of Mozart dissing Clementi's music, all evidence is that they were cordial and that Clementi did influence Mozart after their meeting.
ATONAUPiC 9 months ago
The starting sounds like the beginning of the fugue in Mozart's Overture to the Magic flute! Isn't it?
dannyevans89 1 year ago
Excellent sonata. Clementi is very underrated.
HenryClarson 1 year ago 4
@HenryClarson I agree. Beethoven thought Clementi was better than Mozart. I think he was underrated because he was Italian, not Austrian or German (and not living in Vienna). There are quite a few sonatas and I am trying to listen to all of them.
ttlms 1 year ago
what a fantastic miusic!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheNEWSKATE 1 year ago
Inoltre ha una struttura del tutto diversa...
:)
Emili4n00 2 years ago
Come potete dire che Mozart ha "plagiato" questa sonata di Clementi se ha solo le prime 18 note simili, scusate...provate a confrontare il flauto magico con questa sonata....è totalmente diverso..
Emili4n00 2 years ago
@Emili4n00
guarda che mozart ha ammesso di aver plagiato clementi. Anzi per essere precisi gli ha risposto: "certo che ti ho plagiato, ma io delle tue melodie so cosa farne, tu no".
:)
n10juan 1 year ago
Of course only in terms of keyboard works
harlemworld1000 2 years ago
I only recently discoverd this brilliant composer. I am biased towards Mozart and Haydn they are my favourites but i must admit that Clementi was argueably more technically gifted that both
harlemworld1000 2 years ago
Must be a historical piano. Is a half step lower. Maybe a Broadwood?
PianoGod1990 2 years ago
WOw MAn This almost sounds like Dussek :P i like it it's COolio
dussekfan 2 years ago
I wouldn't say Mozart stole the theme. Closer is that he stole a figure or motif and took off in a new direction with it. Of course Clementi didn't see it that way.
ttlms 2 years ago 2
è anche la sonata dalla quale mozart prese "spunto" per il celeberrimo fugato della overture dello zauberflote!!!
Oggi più che spunto si chiamerebbe "plagio" ma il risultato finale è talmente sublime che passa sopra tutto.
keynesiana 2 years ago
io ho anche la toccata che Clementi suonò davanti all'imperatore giuseppe II, durante la gara con Mozart... è una figata! :)
Ce l'ho suonata da Maria Tipo!
Se solo sapessi caricare i file la metterei, ma ahimé è più complicato di quello che potrebbe sembrare.
GIOIS01 2 years ago
questa è la famosa sonata che clementi suonò in occasione della celebre sfida tra il maestro e Mozart alla presenza dell'imperatore Giuseppe II a Vienna nel 1781 (fu dichiarata la parità tra i due musicisti)...per quanto riguarda la cadenza, preferisco quella fatta da Pietro Spada, anche se è più breve..
15p02d93 2 years ago
interesting cadenza. Sounds too modern to be authentic. But an awesome performance. I enjoy it!
masterstouchusj9 2 years ago
this is the real speed...
AYangBotcherYang 2 years ago
who is the pianist!?
excellent!
GIOIS01 2 years ago 2
Jos Van Immerseel (Pianoforte by Michael Rosenberger, Vienna ca.1795)
cholapat 2 years ago
this is, amazing, just listen to how clear the running notes are played, the dynamics, and its consistency, this is pro, pure genius! i love it!!!
Kane9530 2 years ago 5
whose recording is this?
accisse 3 years ago
Mozart used this piece for his Magic Flute Ouverture!!!
BarbaraPloyer333 3 years ago
Yes you're right man...but have you listen to the Mozart'overture? Maybe Mozart "borrowed" that theme, but he made it sublime, splendid, a music for God..in other words we have the genius in one case the good musician in the other...
bepi1973 3 years ago
Mozart's ouverture is indeed splendid!!! It's rather strange that Mozart "borrowed" Clementi's theme, though- I read that he didn't really like Clementi much- I don't know why. Anyways, Clementi is amazing- as is Mozart. Thanks for uploading this- it's been really nice to listen to the original theme!
BarbaraPloyer333 3 years ago
Hi Barbara. I have always known about this sonata as "inspiration" of Mozart's overture but this is the first time i listen to it. By the way Clementi looks to be not only a "virtuoso" but an indeed good composer! and listen after minute 3:16...a new style! Ciao
bepi1973 3 years ago
Dear Barbara, at that time to borrow themes from other composers was an ordinary practice :)
sousukesagaraJKD 2 years ago
:L I am playing that too!
I'm like no where near that!
It takes him 3:46 to get through 8 pages!
It takes me ages!:L
93Rhod 3 years ago 3
is the performer playing on a fortepiano?
marirossi 3 years ago
Ahh I'm learning this for the ABRSM Grade 8 thing
Gah, he plays it so fast and well! I'll never be able to get as good :/
Rfa999 3 years ago 2
I'm playing this song, but nowhere at this pace. Oh dear, im f*****
DisgruntledBastard01 3 years ago