SOCOM II

[grapeapevine]

wow lota dumbass comments on this rifle...............what kind of ammo have u used?? does she chew an spit out ne thing u run threw her??? ive seen this rifle hit at 800yards with a acog with more energy than a 44mag at point blank range..and a noob hit 300yards like it was normal..navy seals an soldiers in afganstain use this weapon.....so why are people saying that its a short inacurate pos?? sounds like a city boy that cant handle a gun...watch hickok45 that fucker does 1/8th mile shoots.

[911mykidsdead]

@pacaflockaflame tru dat, tru dat, home dog...

[911mykidsdead]

ar10 better all the way around...

[kullas924]

were the hell do you live that it is so open by the way beutiful socam

[Blago6actual]

CANTING

...Your chopped and F'd-up M1A is the perfect model for "canting" of the weapon, bad sight-alignment....what a dumb-assed gun to own.

If you want a real M1A, get one.

[scoutsniper811]

@Blago6actual Again with u and ur so called M1A's, lets see some vids of you shooting these rifles you saw u have. U have no F-ing idea what ur talking about. Ur gay ass pages has games on it not one rifle. not even u in a real plane. put up or shut the F@#$ up u wanna be. I hate people like u, who think u know everything. go sit on ur ass and play your video games some more.

P.S. Come on out to my range and stand 300 yards out and let me take a shot at u. Put ur money where ur mouth is!!

[midnight7734]

Yeah it's so stupid the SEALS use them. What the hell do they know?

[Blago6actual]

STUPID & DUMB RIFLE.

....the verticle forend grip guarantees "canting" of the rifle....combined with the chopped barrel, I doubt you could hit me at 100 yards....I bet the POS won't group under 2" at 100yds on the bench....what a waste.

I own (2) Alan Baker M1As.....one is a match service rifle, the other an E2, bipod scoped killer.

You are an embarrassment to real M1A shooters.

[scoutsniper811]

@Blago6actual Its a Short barreled rifle dunbass, its not ment for long range shooting. I bet u couldn't shoot a 10 inch group at 50 feet with ur so called "Match Rifles". They still have the same accuracy as a full size M1A but a lower muzzle velocity and shorter range then the 22 inch barrel. U don't use a 28 inch barreled shotgun for home defense u use an 18 inch. same thing with the SOCOM II and 16.

[gunmike1]

It is about 10 pounds, and it is a 16" barreled M1A with a muzzle brake and 4 way rails. Mine is out fitted like the one in the video except I don't have a forward pistol grip. If you search for SOCOM rapid fire in the snow a little vid of me emptying a 20 round mag in the snow shows how it hits fairly accurately shooting 3-4 rounds per second.

[GSPxRUSH]

is the a m14 or a m21 ebr?

[TaZ101SAGA]

@GSPxRUSH Its a Springfield SOCOM II, which is a 16 inch barrel version of the M1A with four sided Picatinney Rail.

[GSPxRUSH]

@TaZ101SAGA ookk i couldve sworn its was a converted m14 ebr soo it shoots a 308 im guessing

[TaZ101SAGA]

What happened at 0:14 it looked like two cases got ejected wtf?

[ManofWarMickey]

@TaZ101SAGA ya seriously i just saw that too...

[SuperLuigi707]

How heavy is that bad boy with all the attachments? 10-11lbs?

[Robbaz]

that 308 got pretty low sound.

[snowblind9094]

outstanding!

[gunmike1]

I have an identically equipped SOCOM 2 (save the forward pistol grip which would make it an assaut rifle here in Cali, but I have 20 round pre ban mags) and love it. No recoil, tears the black out of the target at 100 yards with the EOTech on it, but is no tack driver (I got a 300 Win Mag Remington Police for long range tack driving), and it is 100% reliable for me with 5 different loads I've tried. I love that gun!

[gofonzurself1]

Nice gun, umm could you get little closer to the target?



[guitaristsniper123]

is that the .223 version?

[NorCalR32]

Nope, that's a .308.

[guitaristsniper123]

@NorCalR32 wow thats got like no kick

[BigIceWolf90]

@guitaristsniper123 y would u want a 223 version but if u want a m1 grande style action look into the Ruger Mini 14 and Mini 30

[MrCptGonzo]

The muzzle break seems to do quite a lot.

[honig412]

quite the muzzle flash at 0:14

[jpatt1987]

great gun to shoot....how far away are the targets in your vid?

[drtygrl4life]

wow there is actually a civilized conversation on a video about guns thats amazing lol... That is an amazing gun wish i could afford it

[th3boy75]

you and me both, i just dont have 2k to drop on a gun right now, especially with the price of .308's.

[evilEKegg]

OMG! somone who dosent chicken wing their trigger arm!! 99/100 vids i see everyone has their arm stuck way out there. 5/5!

[deGothiaSweden]

Haha agreed!

[LooseLatitude]

There's nothing wrong with chicken winging a full stock pistol grip.

[evilEKegg]

There's nothing wrong with it if your standing at a range and shooting at paper and that is your only intention of ever useing a weapon.However if your moveing thru a house, or urban terrain in a combat situation there are a number of problems with chicken winging. I was always taught to train like you fight, hence chicken wing = bad.

[LooseLatitude]

Who trained you?

[evilEKegg]

The US Army Infantry.

[LooseLatitude]

What weapon(s) were you trained on and in what role?

[evilEKegg]

M4/M16

m203

m249

m240

m2

mk19

m14

m24

m9

Infantryman...I was trained to be the first man in the door, the last man in the door and every role inbetween. Only roles I never filled were RTO, PL or PSG

[LooseLatitude]

Shotguns?

[evilEKegg]

Oh yea lol, forgot about the good ol' mossy...M500 pump action shotty!

[LooseLatitude]

What did you load the shotguns with to clear rooms?

[evilEKegg]

Used bird shot, 00 buck whatever we were given..but we never used it to clear rooms, last man in the stack would use it to blow off door hinges/kick door...1st man in was usually carrying an M4.

[LooseLatitude]

Really? Why didn't you use the shotgun? I would think that a shotgun would be pretty effective at that.

[evilEKegg]

cuz the shotgun is usually the last guy in, andyour right, it would/is very effective but a lot of guys preffer the M4 b/c its easier to control, quicker follow up shots, quicker re-loads and it holds more per reload.

[Paratrooper1988]

Perfect deer stalking rifle. .308 cannot be a more reliable and accurate round.

[Dillinger128]

after careful consideration I am just going to build one and save around 300 bucks

[Timb0NZ]

Notice the flame coming out the barrel at 0:15. Was the a overpowered bullet?

[NorCalR32]

No, just regular factory loads. It's a short rifle though.

[Army888]

just a nice rifle period

[Dillinger128]

agreed... shopping now!

[NorCalR32]

Did you get one?

[NorCalR32]

Thanks!

[theevil1337]

how much did it cost for the SOCOM? cause i was thinking of getting the standard after i get the cash, but whats the difference?

[NorCalR32]

SOCOM 16 and SOCOM II have a 16" barrell. Scout has an 18" barrell and the standard has a 22" barrell. I paid $1800 a couple of years ago. Haven't priced them lately.

[theevil1337]

the site that springfield armory directed me to said that i should pay about $1600-2000, which im going to make this summer working with my dad for fireworks... the SOCOM seems pretty interesting, ill have to look up more info on it

[EveryoneNeedsToChill]

Hey so in NY State (where I live) the laws are that for shotguns and rifles you don't need a permit and you don't need to register....

does this count as a rifle, then?

[NorCalR32]

Yes, it's a rifle.

[EveryoneNeedsToChill]

Thank you very much.

[Pandacycle]

Nice setup and nice shooting

[NorCalR32]

Thank you!

[spartan1081990]

the dream gun

[NorCalR32]

It was my dream gun too! I love it!

[marksmanman96]

i know that it has a compensator for almost no muzzle rise, but how much does it kick back?

[NorCalR32]

I don't think it's very bad at all, but that is somewhat of a subjective question. It depends a lot on the individual shooter and their technique and stance.

[SniperShea]

What are your groupings like with it. I would like a Socom but I haven't heard much about its accuracy. I would imagine decent for a 16 inch barrel. It is a springfield.

[NorCalR32]

I haven't benched it and measured groups, but accuracy is very good out to 100 yards. I haven't pushed it beyond that as I have other rifles for that purpose. Obviously the accuracy increases with the longer barelled Scout (18") and the full size M1A's (22").

[osprey308]

Any advice on mags? Mine are nosediving and are CMI and Westinghouse.

Man I hate airsoft.

[NorCalR32]

Mine are CMI 20 rounders and I haven't had any issues.

[NorCalR32]

I like it, I don't have any problem keeping my support arm tucked in. It's obviously not as comfortable as a AR or something similar with a pistol grip though.

[SHUB281]

Does the EOTECH co-witness with the front sight? If not than how do you zero it?

[NorCalR32]

It does not co-witness with the front sight on my SOCOM. I zeroed it from a benchrest.

[boostfreak777]

Awesome rifle. I want the longer barreled version, just out of my price range right now...

[NorCalR32]

Thanks for the compliment. It will be worth it when you get the funds together. Take care.

[arisy26]

have you ever tried hunting with this rifle i know its a short barrel but you could if you wanted to rite??

[NorCalR32]

I've never hunted with it, but I don't see why you couldn't if you wanted to.

[Shaka666]

It would make an awesome deer gun up to 100yrs like NorCalR32 said. Anything beyond that would probably want to be done with a longer barrel. The .308 round is a good deer round too, any larger game you would want a 30-06 or .300 winmag.

[arcticf0x8]

I really love this gun. But I have more than a few that will beat this gun at 50 yards, 100 yards, all the way out to 600 yards, with the right shooter. (Me)

[NorCalR32]

I have a few that will beat it too, but they're not nearly as fun as the SOCOM.

[Jarhead484]

i love this rifle, and the sight too. i have a remington 700 sps varmint in .308

[NorCalR32]

Thank you. A Remington 700 .308 is on my "to buy" list.

[Jarhead484]

id like to get an m1a but its a little pricy for me. next gun on my list is a springfield armory gi .45 and hopefully ill have it by the end of this coming summer.

[fireball676]

this gun is one mean son of a bitch, 1700 for it too. oh by the way whoever was askin about the 6.8, the gun has the accuracy of the .223 but the power of the 7.62x39.

[bladerrunner422]

i just wish the 6.8 was the same price as either.

[GreenGhost5]

I'm in the market for a new rifle and would like your thoughts on this one? I've been looking at it and I'm stuck between this and building another AR-15 in 6.8 SPC. I do like the feel of Garand rifles (I own an M1) How's the accuracy and how about the recoil? I've no personal experience with EO-techs how are they compared to Aimpoints?

[NorCalR32]

I love my SOCOM. I like the the .308WIN cartridge and shorter length. I've never handled an AR in 6.8 SPC so I can't comment on that. If you like the feel of the Garand though, this may be the way to go for you. As you know, the action and controls on an M14/M1A are all VERY similar to that of a Garand. The main exception being of course that the former is magazine fed while the latter has an 8 round top-loading clip.

[NorCalR32]

Accuracy is great out to 100 yards. I have no real reason to push it out beyond there as that is not the intended purpose for my purchasing this rifle. I have my EOTech zeroed at 50 yards.

[NorCalR32]

Recoil is very managable, but I must warn you, this rifle is heavy compared to a 5.56mm AR. A lot of times when I hand the SOCOM to people the first thing the comment on is it's weight. It doesn't bother me, but it may be a concern for some. Also, I am very happy with my EOTech. I looked closely at the other options for red-dot sights, but felt the EOTech was the way to go for me. Good luck with whatever you decide.

[Quadbob101]

how much is one of those red dot sites?

[NorCalR32]

My particular EOTech is the AA battery operated version and it's around the $400 range.

[vikmega]

since i dont know that much i'll ask you this is that much diffrent from the garand?

[NorCalR32]

It's similar. The Springfield Armory M1A is their civilian market version of the M14. The action is very similar to that of a Garand. The main difference is the Garand is 30-06 and is fed by a top-loading 8-round clip, the M1A/M14 is a detachable magazine fed .308WIN.

[Steadyfinger007]

Do you notice if your eotech seems canted on the rail like the rails twisted on your rifle.

[NorCalR32]

No, not at all. I have had no issues whatsoever and my eotech holds it's zero just fine. That top rail on the SOCOM is very solid.

[Pythomyst]

Awesome!