John McCain is a douchebag. Tom Harkin fought in Vietnam, just like McCain did. Unlike McCain, Harkin didn't crash five planes and get captured by the Viet Cong on an unauthorized combat mission. Had McCain not been a POW for five years, he would have been court martialed. Yes, he was tortured beyond belief for a short period of time. But his status as a hero is inflated at best.
While running for his Senate seat in 1984, and again while running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992, Harkin has faced criticism for claiming that he had flown combat missions over North Vietnam. In a 1979 round table discussion with other Congressional military veterans, Harkin clarified that he had been stationed in Japan and His service flying F-4s and F-8s was later, while he was stationed in Cuba .What a liar Harkin is!
Vietnam was lost, not because we were losing the fight, but because filth like Harkin, Fonda, Cronkite, Kerry held sway in the media and were allowed to control the debate.
Our leaders at the time, such as they were, were asleep at the wheel.
Those who opposed the Vietnam War should have been branded as traitors and imprisoned for the duration.
I'm proud to say I've had the plasure of voting against Sen. Harkin twice and will get a third opportunity very soon. It's sad that most people in Iowa are not aware of how far to the left this man is. He's right up there with the likes of other phoney war heroes like John Kerry and utter slimeballs like "The Swimmer" Ted Kennedy.
highcrotch, 1 I am not a holocaust denier, 2 ChiComs murdered about 30 million and finally 3 I am no fan of muslims, I think Radical Jihad is a blight to the world and it needs to be gotten rid of. So where the f@@k do you say me as a left winger change historical facts to fit my politics you pog.
You can become hopefull listening to Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul but the Dem's and the Republicans have a lock on this two party system and they aren't giving it up ever willingly.
Mickelson is a rightwing political hack,the lie about Cambodia that the right continues to propgate, i.e. it was the Vietnamese who stopped the killing in Cambodia by the Khmer Rouge.
Irgpp, you obviously did not read my comment, I didn't say a thing about Pol Pot, if you look at my comment I said the Vietmanese who had the world's 4 largest military at the time put a stop to the killing fields. Later Pol Pot died while being tried for war crimes and crimes against humaity. You right wingers are like horse's with blinders on, you only see what's front of your nose and don't have a clue about the rest of reality going on all around you. .
The khmer Rouge never would have embarked on the genocidal murder of its people if politicians like Harkin didn't let the anti-war movement drive them. Harkin has more to worry about than Pol Pot I would suggest. Left wingers think they have a grip on reality but the truth is they have no tradition,they have no character,they have no souls.
That is the most intrepidly stupid statement I have ever heard. The US antiwar movement was over Vietnam,Cambodia is a different country. The Khmer Rouge was a combination Communist with a cult like leader PoL Pot, after he emptied the cities of Cambodia and began the killing field the NVA went in and mostly put an end to this genocide. Pol Pot was a mad man who evantually was in the process of war crimes trial before he died. You really need to read about his before you leave asinine comments.
Are you a history teacher or student? Historian? Some are partisans. Pres Nixon would never have allowed this genocide to occur in Cambodia. The anti-war movement with the very heavy support of the US media hamstrung Nixon so badly that the Viet Nam war was being lost on the home front more that in the actual front. Communists advanced and as you said they did so in Cambodia.I feel from you a disconnect of our leaving SE Asia and the rise of Pol Pot and if so,I think it is not correct
Friend, I am not partisan I am open minded. I think Nixon was a fine President. I belive Watergate was blown way out of proportion. However hamstrung Nixon was by the media, we still lost, and in war the enemy wins by all methods including propaganda. In a way you could say that the Vietnamese won the hearts 7 minds of the protestors. Again Pol Pot was Cambodia. We we fighting the VC and because of our involement cost 50,000 American lives and countless Vietnamese. The VC were no threat to US.
Well there is truth in what you say and there is food for thought and for debate. This has been gone over before and can be hashed out ad infinitum. Best I leave it at "friend" as well. You are open minded and seem to know more than the average American of events from 1945 - 1975 I would say and that is a breath of fresh air in itself
According to muslims, Hitler did not murder millions of women & children (Jews & Poles). Left-wingers deny that Chinese murdered millions of Christians. etc. There are reasons that the murderers cite for their actions.
My point is, don't change historical fact to fit your politics. Don't deny the above events. Rather, objectively explain what happened.
John McCain is a douchebag. Tom Harkin fought in Vietnam, just like McCain did. Unlike McCain, Harkin didn't crash five planes and get captured by the Viet Cong on an unauthorized combat mission. Had McCain not been a POW for five years, he would have been court martialed. Yes, he was tortured beyond belief for a short period of time. But his status as a hero is inflated at best.
daddymak9 2 years ago
Botswell scored an F- with illegal immigration
seem Ol' Chesterd has his work cut out for him next session?
first the postville SCANDLE on why he took money and did not pass law that would had held his donors responsible? HUGE CONFLICT
Lt. Gov. Patty Judge today plans to publicly endorse U.S. Rep. Leonard Boswell for Iowa's 3rd Congressional District
SHE TOOK MONEY FROM POSTVILLE ALSO....does she too get an F- with illegal immigration HARKIN GOT AN F ALSO .
wwwLowerTherePaycom 3 years ago
While running for his Senate seat in 1984, and again while running for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1992, Harkin has faced criticism for claiming that he had flown combat missions over North Vietnam. In a 1979 round table discussion with other Congressional military veterans, Harkin clarified that he had been stationed in Japan and His service flying F-4s and F-8s was later, while he was stationed in Cuba .What a liar Harkin is!
marine919 1 year ago
Vietnam was lost, not because we were losing the fight, but because filth like Harkin, Fonda, Cronkite, Kerry held sway in the media and were allowed to control the debate.
Our leaders at the time, such as they were, were asleep at the wheel.
Those who opposed the Vietnam War should have been branded as traitors and imprisoned for the duration.
7Yosef7 3 years ago
Tom Harkin is a coward and a traitor. The people of Iowa who voted for this coward should be real proud of themselves.
7Yosef7 3 years ago
I'm proud to say I've had the plasure of voting against Sen. Harkin twice and will get a third opportunity very soon. It's sad that most people in Iowa are not aware of how far to the left this man is. He's right up there with the likes of other phoney war heroes like John Kerry and utter slimeballs like "The Swimmer" Ted Kennedy.
Harkin is a disgrace to the Senate.
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professorenigma 3 years ago 2
Harkin is pittiful. Falling short of a traitor which would require intelligence.
Old Tom is either an idiot, has alzheimers, or both
kidshowsnet 3 years ago
Tom Harkin is, and has always been, a disgrace to Iowans. I am sad that we keep re-electing him.
ripouttheirspleens 3 years ago
highcrotch, 1 I am not a holocaust denier, 2 ChiComs murdered about 30 million and finally 3 I am no fan of muslims, I think Radical Jihad is a blight to the world and it needs to be gotten rid of. So where the f@@k do you say me as a left winger change historical facts to fit my politics you pog.
valhala56 3 years ago
I'm neither a Republican nor a Democrat. It's a sad time in American History.
The Republicans are worthless, but Democrats are evil ... and/or losing touch with reality.
Does anyone know a Party that will return to our historic National values?
highcrotch7 3 years ago
You can become hopefull listening to Jesse Ventura or Ron Paul but the Dem's and the Republicans have a lock on this two party system and they aren't giving it up ever willingly.
valhala56 3 years ago
What should one expect form a man who lied about flying combat missions in Vietnam. Harkin is and always has been a disgrace.
scottham 3 years ago
Wow...Sen Harkin is obviously senile. Let's first pray for him , then DEMAND that he resign.
spyderkat 3 years ago
I won't be the keeper at the pearly gates because, Pol Pot is not a christian so why would he show up at the pearly gates?
valhala56 4 years ago
PolPot is the creation of the Left. The liberals in America can find the full debt for the genocide in Southeast Asia lying at their doorstep.
7Yosef7 3 years ago
Mickelson is a rightwing political hack,the lie about Cambodia that the right continues to propgate, i.e. it was the Vietnamese who stopped the killing in Cambodia by the Khmer Rouge.
valhala56 4 years ago
I hope you're not the gate keeper at the Pearly Gates when Pol Pot goes up.
lrgpp 4 years ago
Irgpp, you obviously did not read my comment, I didn't say a thing about Pol Pot, if you look at my comment I said the Vietmanese who had the world's 4 largest military at the time put a stop to the killing fields. Later Pol Pot died while being tried for war crimes and crimes against humaity. You right wingers are like horse's with blinders on, you only see what's front of your nose and don't have a clue about the rest of reality going on all around you. .
valhala56 3 years ago
The khmer Rouge never would have embarked on the genocidal murder of its people if politicians like Harkin didn't let the anti-war movement drive them. Harkin has more to worry about than Pol Pot I would suggest. Left wingers think they have a grip on reality but the truth is they have no tradition,they have no character,they have no souls.
ThatsmyYokoOno 3 years ago
That is the most intrepidly stupid statement I have ever heard. The US antiwar movement was over Vietnam,Cambodia is a different country. The Khmer Rouge was a combination Communist with a cult like leader PoL Pot, after he emptied the cities of Cambodia and began the killing field the NVA went in and mostly put an end to this genocide. Pol Pot was a mad man who evantually was in the process of war crimes trial before he died. You really need to read about his before you leave asinine comments.
valhala56 3 years ago
Are you a history teacher or student? Historian? Some are partisans. Pres Nixon would never have allowed this genocide to occur in Cambodia. The anti-war movement with the very heavy support of the US media hamstrung Nixon so badly that the Viet Nam war was being lost on the home front more that in the actual front. Communists advanced and as you said they did so in Cambodia.I feel from you a disconnect of our leaving SE Asia and the rise of Pol Pot and if so,I think it is not correct
ThatsmyYokoOno 3 years ago
Friend, I am not partisan I am open minded. I think Nixon was a fine President. I belive Watergate was blown way out of proportion. However hamstrung Nixon was by the media, we still lost, and in war the enemy wins by all methods including propaganda. In a way you could say that the Vietnamese won the hearts 7 minds of the protestors. Again Pol Pot was Cambodia. We we fighting the VC and because of our involement cost 50,000 American lives and countless Vietnamese. The VC were no threat to US.
valhala56 3 years ago
Well there is truth in what you say and there is food for thought and for debate. This has been gone over before and can be hashed out ad infinitum. Best I leave it at "friend" as well. You are open minded and seem to know more than the average American of events from 1945 - 1975 I would say and that is a breath of fresh air in itself
ThatsmyYokoOno 3 years ago
According to muslims, Hitler did not murder millions of women & children (Jews & Poles). Left-wingers deny that Chinese murdered millions of Christians. etc. There are reasons that the murderers cite for their actions.
My point is, don't change historical fact to fit your politics. Don't deny the above events. Rather, objectively explain what happened.
highcrotch7 3 years ago