ok guys, if you really believe what u're saying here, I still don't understand one thing - why would have been anybody interested in the average US rider who had cancer, to ride TdF? Except Nike, all previous sponsors turned their back from Lance. Why would have a cancer surviver had an interest to dope? You can hardly imagine what a pain it was to fight against this disease day after day, month after month, years...Now I don't know where's the true, but I cannot believe after all this he doped.
@vjanov Lance doped to win because he wants fame and to be famous, There is a study that shows that most of the athletes would accept to die young if they could win a gold medal.
How could Lance have won cleanly when EPO gives an unbeatable advantage, we know that his contenders were using EPO too, and EPO was found in 8 of Lance's 13 samples of 1999 TDF. Don't forget that EPO was aprt of Lance's cancer cure. Why should he be afraid of?
Betsy Andreu, Frankie Andreu testified against him. Greg Lemond showed Mcllvain was lying for him. Anderson saw him use adrostenone. Landis, Hamilton, Hincape all saw him. He employed Ferarri the infamous doping doctor. Idiots who think like you would have elected him governor of Texas, the 2bit cheating doping scumbag. You make peace with this you blind fans. Conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, racketeering, drug trafficking and defrauding the US Government.
You talk as if you know he has taken drugs. Im just saying it's strange that the three people who have ever testified against him has already tested positive, and all happened to be bringing a book out at the same time.
@mathewpeterlee May you name those 3 witnesses and the names of their books?
BTW there is more than 3 people who have testimonied about Lance's doping, some of them : Mr et Ms Andreu, O'Reilly, Andersen, Prentice Steffen, and of course : Hamilton and Landis.
Please could you explain why did Bruyneel flee from Italia when Police was looking at him for testimony?
What about Carmichael involved with junior US team of Lance?
For any of you who have ever had cancer, you would understand that it's unthinkable to even consider putting a harmful substance into your body. 500 tests, 500 clear.
in all of lance's winning years, all the guys who actually had a chance of winning the TDF doped. I have little doubt in my mind that Lance doped too. If none of them ever doped (including Lance), he would have won also. Im sure he would love to say that, but the public could never really grasp that. He recognizes this and is a precarious position, and can't backdown from his past proclimations. That is why people loathe him. I honestly feel bad for him, he deserved every tour he won.
forget about the dope and the races he won....once the feds get him up on federal fraud charges (You did sign the U.S.Postal Service Contract Mr.Armstrong...did you not?)he'll start shakin in his boots just like McGuire and Bonds did when they asked them to make a choice....
Michael Ashenden develops tests for the Olympic committee to detect dopers and cheaters, "there is no doubt in my mind he (Lance Armstrong) took EPO during the '99 Tour." Ashenden led the Australian Instit of Sport to focus on battling blood doping. Google his 2009 interview with nyvelocity. No trial, but the expert scientist has NO DOUBT versus you the blind fanatic uninformed grasping at straws.Teammates, Ferrarri, Ashenden all say you blind fanatic supporters lose, sorry. AssProng doped.
Betsy Andreu, Frankie Andreu testified against him. Greg Lemond showed Mcllvain was lying for him. Anderson saw him use adrostenone. Landis, Hamilton, Hincape all saw him. He employed Ferarri the infamous doping doctor. Idiots who think like you would have elected him governor of Texas, the 2bit cheating doping scumbag. Probable conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, racketeering, drug trafficking and defrauding the US Government.
The needle tears a hole The old familiar sting Try to kill it all away But I remember, everything What have I become My sweetest friend Everyone I know, goes away In the end And you could have it all My empire of dirt I will let you down I will make you hurt
Many racers like ;Tyler Hamilton, Floyd Landis, Georges hincapie,Stephen Swart, Yaroslav Popovych saw Mister Lance Armstrong taking EPO and many other drugs hahahahaha
I'm going to laugh when Lance finally dies and they open up his chest and find a finely tuned V-8, Then i will have the last laugh on all your doping conspiracies
@TexasRaTleSnake316 American scientists have already measured his abilities in 1996 for the Olympics Games, and they have found that he was an average pro rider, not the best US rider, and with his average recovering ability, one day races were better.
That is the reason he was not able to be competitive on TDF until he doped with Dr Ferrari.
@superspazz61 Lance is the only athletes who has bullied others athletes in front of camera, who has threatened ex-teammate, who has try to destroy Lemond cycling business after he had discovered the link between Armstrong and the doping doctor Ferrari.
How many riders have bribed UCI to clear positive tests?
BTW, how many riders were able to pay the price for the top doping program of Dr. Ferrari? Why did Lance bought an exclusivity for that doping program?
@hghepo typically, young riders do not do very well in long races such as the tour de france. Usually they cant climb as well as riders in their mid twenties and beyond. the longer a cyclist rides, the more efficient he becomes. His lung capacity,and lung efficiency strengthen, different types of muscle that take long periods to develop grow. He completely changed his training from day races to mountains. (young riders can make good money competing in a lot of day races). Lance changed his style
@magua4 Young talented riders like Lemond, Hinault, Anquetil, Merckx, Poulidor, Zootemelk, Van Impe, Fignon were great at their 1st TDF ! He were considered as contender after the first mountain stages... and were already winner of major races like Dauphine, Tour de l'Avenir...
@hghepo by the way, im not saying he didnt dope. I'm pretty sure he did.. But your explanation of Lance's progression looks like something you heard from someone who didn't know what they were talking about. Also, in his younger years, he was a team player, he wasnt even trying to win the TDF, he was a packhorse, and a team player. As he aged and proved he was a great rider, lance was told to dope(like all of the major contenders). he then beat all the other dopers for 7 years straight.
@asintotele i'm not going to argue, but unless cadel wins the 2012 tour de france, he's not getting much attention as he's going to stay as one more rider of the many in tour de france history who won a SINGLE tour de france... and besides, he didn't give a historical performance either, he just was better prepared, used better strategy and was able to win...
@hghepo shut up. World Champion with 21 years old. The youngest World Champion. This is the reason. Ullrich, Beloki, Landis, Hamilton, Basso and his rivals were in EPO and Armstrong beat him. What you dont understand? Come on tell me, who was better than him?I want to laught xd
@franrafuki Don't be so stupid. Lance is not the youngest ccyling WC. Check your facts.
Look at Lance's results before 1996! Why did Lance had half of his samples positive while in the same time the rest of peloton had just 10% of them? Could we conclude that Lance was much more doped than others?
@hghepo You know nothing. Armstrong had the best levels of lactic acid, better lung capacity, and the best power, better than the average of a profesional cyclist. Read a little more and stop lying.
@hghepo Could we conclude that you are lying. Tell us guy, where do you found it? Why should I believe you? You are a jealous commenting on all the videos of Armstrong and the UCI said Armstrong never tested positive. Why should I believe you and not to the UCI?I dont belive in the media speculation as you. I believe the judges and official organizations. Now, we can conclude that Ullrich, Beloki, Basso...were doped because they were sanctioned by an official organization, not Lance
@hghepo And one more thing. With or without EPO, Armstrong will continue to be much better than Ullrich, Basso, Beloki, because they were in EPO. The only thing that will change is that Armstrong will be a liar like everyone.
@franrafuki I didn't have read all your posts, but as usual Lance's fan say that he is not a doper because he never tested positive, then you point Ullrich Basso and Beloki as dopers, but did they test positive for EPO too?
Have you different standards? We can agree that all tgose guy were dopers, but only one threatened and still try to threaten people who are speaking of his doping : that is Lance. That makes him totaly different of others. What about US Postal investigation for drugs?
@u368 Pff are you seriously? hahaha Basso and Beloki have their blood in the office of Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes, and obviously he were punished. Armstrong wasnt penalized because there is nothing more than speculation and accusations of ex-partners frustrated (and dopers) like Hamilton and Landis.
@hghepo Now you know more than the UCI. Is Lance sanctioned? A judge has ruled that Armstrong is guilty of doping? Sorry but the facts are with me. His 7 Tours are there, in his results, and will not move from there. Sorry Loser.
@franrafuki Did I lie to cancer patients? Did I say that I would never dope after cancer?
Did Lance sue people who have clearly stated that he doped? Did O'Reilly or the Andreu being indicted for providing a false legal testimony during SCA affair? Why did LAF give $1.5M to Dr. Nichols? Why was Dr Nichols fired for ethical problem later?
@franrafuki My point was that you have 2 different standards, there is more proofs for Lance's doping that you deni constantly, while you have no problem to accuse Ullrich, Basso and Beloki of doping.
Basso just said he stored blood in case of ...
Ullrich was only caught for recreationnal drugs while driving in winter!
@u368 pfff hahahaha I have any problem to accuse Ullrich, Basso and Beloki because they were sanctioned for doping, I dont need any more proof champion xD For Armstrong you dont have any proof, only speculations because at the moment he isnt sanctioned by any organization sorry. I believe in facts not in l'Equipe.
L'Equipe published a scientific report confirming the presence of EPO in Lance's 1999 TDF urine samples.
UCI refused to investigate seriously that case, preferring to order a dubious report from a Verbrruggen's friend.
WADA described that report as farcical !!!!!
Lance was involved in so many doping stories including actovegin(2 times), transfusion kit (2 times), US Postal trash,. he is connected with the most famous doping doctor : Ferrari.
@u368 lol you joking right? I think you've confused speech. You said the speculation. The facts are: Lance won the Tour 7 times, Lance has never tested positive, Lance hasn't been sanctioned by doping ever. Lance is your hero. And you are a troll and lier lol
@franrafuki You will never know. We have just information about the average recovering of Lance, doculented by US testing for Olympics in 1996, and confirmed by results in first TDF.
For sure there were a lot of riders that would have easily beaten him. More important he was not born as a climber, he climbed because of EPO only!
@hghepo No. 1999 samples were analyzed illegally without the consent of Lance Armstrong. Research of EQUIPE was illegal because is Lance Armstrong who decides if their frozen samples can be analyzed. He doesnt want to analyze it because many laboratories have ensured that the analysis in frozen samples have a high probability of mistake. Next time dont believe what you read in the press and read directly by official news agencies. But dont worry, we will know if Armstrong doped soon.
@hghepo He had cancer in 1996 and there is nothing except mental state and tactics to keep him from being good in the tour or good in one day races. Look at his tests and results in 93-95 he out performed everyone but he was too heavy to climb and he wasn't tactically proficient enough or consistent enough to do well in the GC of a long tour. Plus why would he start doping after cancer and not before, even if he did dope the cause of his increased success after cancer was not doping.
@babbfamilyidaho Thanks to point his weight problem... but he was even a bit heavier in 1999 than for his first TDFs ! As you probably know riders were weighted during the medical checking prior TDF at that time. So Lance's weight loss is a lie, a myth. Most important, he improved his climbing power by more than 20% , that would mean 20% fewer weight , do you math!
testicular cancer gives false positive doping test but use of masking agents avoids false and positive tests : so Lance doped
A lot of errors of mjarti, Lance is not from far the most tested athletes, as pro-rider he has just an average VO2max.
Facts are that EPO was found inhis 1999 TDF samples, that he was in relation with the infamous doping doctor Ferrari, that Carmichael was forced to settle a lawsuit from Strock for being doped by Carmichael, Lance had Bruyneel, aka the hog for his PED appetit, as DS. Lance and his team were often caught in drugs scandal through the years.
@u368 You've missed my point entirely I'm afraid. He is the most tested man in sport ever (fact) and I'm simply saying his VO2 max is high, and thus would indicate a potentially impressive athlete. Finally, pertaining to your "sure he doped": you THINK he doped based upon circumstantial evidence and colleague association. I may well be wrong and you may think I'm am, or perhaps 'know' I am, but you don't and you can't. I intensely hope he didn't - I may well be proven incorrect.
@u368 If you're going to make arguments you need to substantiate them, i.e. showing evidence of the total tests done by the aforementioned athletes; until then, it's your word against mine.
Of course I cannot explain that—I have no training in biomedicine and am not guilty of trying to profess it(!). While we're on the subject of 'knowing few', the phrase is "knowing little".
Ultimately, I think your aggressive attitude is rather unfortunate on the page of a charity.
@mjarti You just have to go on USADA websites, there is archive of testing on athletes Kristin Armstrong is much more tested than Lance !
On UCI website you could have learnt that Lance was tested around 85 times until 2005... Zabel or Cippollini were tested at least for every victories they got... more than 220 for Zabel and a bit less for Cippo, so much more than Lance.
During Marion Jones' trial we have learnt that she was tested 160times while doping : 2 times more than Lance.
@mjarti Those points have been discussend and proved many times to Lance's fans.
From UCI websites:
* 1999 : 15 contrôles urinaires conventionnels (1 positif à la triamcinolone acétonide - corticoïdes)
* 2000 : 12
* 2001 : 10
* 2002 : 9
* 2003 : 9
* 2004 : 8 .
You should know that every winner of race or stage is systematically tested, that rules applies since the 90's. Now have a look at Zabel , Cippolini and Jalabert palmares and you will know that they had been much more tested !
There's no point people being insulting and saying your dumb for believing he's clean, or vice versa. There's prolific drug history in the sport, especially recently, so it is quite possible Lance used drugs at some point. We don't know. I personally don't believe he did, partly out of hope, and partly because of the evidence provided. He's an incredible athlete - ridiculous VO2 max and metabolism. He's also the most tested athlete in any sport. Hold criticism for evidence, not rumour.
@mjarti ¿quieres pruebas? ¿Como se pasa de quedarte en cuanto llega un puerto de tercera,y de quedar del puesto 50 o mas en contrareloj,a subir mil veces mejor que el mejor escalador y meterle dos minutos al mejor contrarelojista? Y en solo dos años y con el cuerpo destrozado por el cancer.¿Te imaginas la respuesta? CON DROGAS
@ide380 apologies for my poor spanish, but what i can tell, you are refuting his innocence due to missed tests and good form. As I said, it is perfectly possible that he used drugs, and some circumstances would suggest that he did. However, suggestion isn't proof. I'm not claiming I'm right and you're wrong: I cannot do that. My point is that no one can. I just can't see a cancer survivor jumping on a bike and saying yeah, I've just been on intensive chemo, now fill me up with more drugs...
@mjarti Para mi es suficiente prueba que alguien haga algo que materialmente es imposible.Lo que Lance ha conseguido,se demuestre o no,es humanamente imposible.Si un español que corre 100 metros y no esta ni en semifinales,dentro de dos años y retirado de la competicion,bate el record de Usain Bolt en un segundo....yo no me lo creeria ¿Vosotros si?
@ide380 I'm afraid there's a slight contradiction in terms here though. You speak of materially or humanly impossible, yet it is quite clearly neither. Drugs don't give you some extra sensory, other-worldly power. They enhance your material, human potential. Now this may have happened. What also may have happened is that Lance, recovering from a situation of serious mental trauma and physical pain, was able to move beyond the pain of cycling etc and utilise more fully his natural potential.
@mjarti El problema es que nunca ha tenido ese potencial antes del cancer.Yo nunca he visto a nadie en ningun deporte,que de ser un mediocre,pase a ser el mejor de todos los tiempos con una superioridad brutal.¡¡Y EN MENOS DE UN AÑO!!.Yo he sido deportista y cuando estas en la elite,subir un poquito cuesta muchisimo,ni pensar en subir a lo mas alto.Quien quiera creerselo pues mejor para el,yo solo veo una respuesta ENGAÑO Y DROGAS
@ide380 You're quite right, and perhaps the sudden turn of form was based upon drugs. He was diagnosed before the peak of his ability, in 1996, and in 1999 won his first TDF. I would like to believe that this form was based upon mental strength and his ability to 'build' his body as he chose after losing all muscle (i.e. in Not About the Bike). Neither side, I feel, will relent, so thanks for a good discussion—we'll agree to disagree.
@mjarti Es un placer dialogar con personas tan respetuosas como usted.Podemos tener diferentes opiniones pero todo se puede hablar y nunca llegar al insulto (como es tan habitual) Encantado,ha sido un placer.
Let's be honest, all major riders have already doped. It's true, that is pretty much the usual day on the office in professional cyclism, so yeah, this guy deserves the recognition for what he did nevertheless
@ChrisMoodie91 So because there is dopers, Lance can dope too and then he is right to sue people pointing his doping, he is right to bully and harass people who have spoken about his doping or who have testimonied agains his doping doctor, he is right to lie to cancer patients,...
Lance is not only a doper, he is a swindler and he is acting like mafia.
@u368 No you are being ridiculous. You don't know what is going on under the covers, you only read what what paparazzi tells you. The fact that you are putting a man who started a cancer awareness foundation to a mafia, speaks volumes of your character.
those who complain about steroids are those who do not understand about them. I'm going ti say it once in plain terms for all the simple people out there: TAKING ROIDS DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU AN ELITE ATHELTE
Ok, now, I have a question, is there any high performance athlethe that DOES NOT take any type of exogenous enhancer??, I mean, IMHO, all of them do, the only difference is whos doctor is smarter and has him clean for the time of the doping test.
I had cancer and 2 surgeries and I was put on to Live strong. Live strong is an integral componant to cancer survival but heres a question. For the last 30-40 years Cancer research has raised and spent over a billion dollars a year for cancer research but where are all the cures. Many causes of cancer and cures have been patented by entities such as the Rockerfeller foundation.
@websuspect One specific cause of cancer is a virus called or identified as SV 40 found in the polio vacine. SV 40 is detected undectable virus found in Simions or monkeys used for the development of of MERCs polio vacines by Dr Marece Hilderman. Many cancers are caused by Viruses or things in our food or water such as Flouride or BPAs in plastics or Carcinagens found in things such as Synthetic hormones.
people need to shut up about him supposedly doping. the man has raised millions for cancer and giving millions of people with it hope. doping or not that should be enough
@locotte u368 is actually hghepo as well. "They" are the only profiles that spout out biased crap. He believes that only Lance Armstrong is immoral in cycling, eventhough the rest of the top GC GT contenders during that time were caught cheating. Lance has not been convicted of anything at this time, yet "he committed fraud, threats, doping, etc". Just ignore this talentless hack!!!! He will never have an adult conversation on the topic!
if you look at the facts certain things are clear.
1. armstrong took epo in 1999.
2. thereafter he probably didn't take eop but only transfused on the second rest stage which is the only explanation for his extraordianry blood values in the third week of the tour.
3. he was easily the most talented and committed tour rider of his generation and was riding with and against nothing but dopers.
@u368 how do my first two points invalidate his level of talent and committment? as for his deserving of his 7 wins, i say he soes because had he been riding clean and everyone else was too he would have won. possibly in 2004 basso was clean and riding the alpe tt against a doped armstrong and therefore basso should take that crown. but he may well have been doped himself. sastre was probably the only clean rider in the top 20 for all those years.
magic potions ??? is this a cindirela story now ?? let be real any dope it will last for so long any way in your body is no posible for him to use in any tour cus they get check daily so now , he is good cus he give his heart and put 101% .
@locotte Clearly his performances before he met Ferrari and his magic potions were average : just able to ride with gruppeto on mountain stages, lack of recovering abilities, ... when riders like Lemond, Hinault or Merckx had all shown very great talent at their beginning, winning TDF at their first attempt.
Lance was only the best to benefit of doping. A real chemical receiver.
So Lance doped...so what? Why do you guys all hate him for it? It's not like he did anything that all the other guys in the peleton weren't doing as well. So when you think about it, it's not even cheating. Don't know why you're all getting your knickers in a twist about it. Pro cyclists dope. Get over it.
@Sibleysibley When you were from a poor family, had no job, were spending a lot of money and be in connection with Al Capone, no one would pretend that you were honest.
It's the same with Lance, he is in connection with Ferrari, Bruyneel, Carmichael, Verbbruggen (aka Verdruggen)... and had had an astonishing transformation, after cancer while working with Dr. EPO Ferrari.
The 6 EPO samples of 1999 TDF aren't fiction, 48% hematocrit at the end of TDF is IMPOSSIBLE for a clean athlete.
@seahog32 Hematocrit drops by at least 5 points during TDF without doping.
Lance' s natural hematocrit value is around 41-42%, so he should have finished TDF with a value around 37% , so we can without a doubt that he blood doped.
BTW dehydration would never explain a such value, or if it's true Lance would never been able to race: a 5% dehydration implicates a drop of physical performance by 10%, and only a extremely severe dehydration would led an increase of 10% of hematocrit.
@u368 really?..i did not know that...what would be the mechanism behind drop of the hematocrit during TdF?
but again, i don't have access to Lance's medical record (do you?) but 42% seems to be extremely low for a top endurance athlete...if I am not mistaken, my highest hematocrit was 51, i was in my teens and never took anything, don't even think there was any artificial EPO available in those days..that is, of course, irrelevant, only those 42% don't sound right
@seahog32 That is not difficult to find Lance's hematocrit, he published the results of his doping test last year on livestrong, including his hematocrit.
The drop of hematocrit during a race like TDF is a natural behaviour of body : it can rebuild enough red cells because of its repeated fatigue day after day. There is on the net a graph of the hematocrit of a whole team during TDF.
@u368 average lifespan of an erythrocyte is 120 days (4 months) so insufficient rebuilding in the course of 3 weeks can't be the cause...the only other option would be increased breakdown which should be mirrored by increased blood/urine biliary pigments..anyway, if you say it is a known fact i'll keep it in mind..i was just wondering if you would know the mechanism behind this
you realise you are commenting on the video that is scientifically proving that Lances body produces less lactic acid than the average human being? which is rare and it is arguable that could be used to his advantage but pain threshold isn't what makes him win professional cycling, his determination and endurance does. Read his books and you'll see..
@Doee2010 How those testing are independtly run by real scientifc and uncorrupt people?
Did Lance was blood tested before doing those test?
What about the real scientific lactate measurements by real scientifics before 1996 JO? Why have those tests concluded that Lance has an average lactate threshold, good for a one day racer, but too bad for an stage day racer?
I don't buy propaganda BS like does Lance's team to mask his doping use.
@u368 Elite athletes are tested all the time. Do not spread your lies that Lance has not been test many times in season, out of season, and on race days. Lance went through chemo therapy, and you act like he has an enormous advantage over all of the other top GC riders who HAVE been caught, and sanctioned, for using PED! That is such a ridiculous stance to have!
@pdp110 Lance had and has an enormous advantage on the few clean riders like Bassons. So you seems toagree that drug testing is not enough efficient to catch dopers.
As you already, Viru has testimonied ( Grail operation , Spain) that he was warned about unannounced testing and he warned US Postal' doctor of those testings. When we know that 20mn, the duration of a shower is enough to beat testing, you should understand how it was easy for Lance not to test positive too o
How old could someone like lance sustain 400 watts?
2394098234509 2 weeks ago
ok guys, if you really believe what u're saying here, I still don't understand one thing - why would have been anybody interested in the average US rider who had cancer, to ride TdF? Except Nike, all previous sponsors turned their back from Lance. Why would have a cancer surviver had an interest to dope? You can hardly imagine what a pain it was to fight against this disease day after day, month after month, years...Now I don't know where's the true, but I cannot believe after all this he doped.
vjanov 2 months ago
@vjanov Lance doped to win because he wants fame and to be famous, There is a study that shows that most of the athletes would accept to die young if they could win a gold medal.
How could Lance have won cleanly when EPO gives an unbeatable advantage, we know that his contenders were using EPO too, and EPO was found in 8 of Lance's 13 samples of 1999 TDF. Don't forget that EPO was aprt of Lance's cancer cure. Why should he be afraid of?
hghepo 1 month ago
@hghepo to be honest, dying old is overrated
galatisnik5 3 weeks ago
i like the hincapie shirt
sleepyhead7391 2 months ago
Like this if you thought of "Chuck" when you saw the name Carmichael in the beggining^^
martinkviteberg 2 months ago
show as your veins!
TheHelder1976 3 months ago
See my post incredible cycling feats
leong111 3 months ago
what is that strap he is wearing around his core
nschroeder21 5 months ago
@nschroeder21 Heart rate monitor. it measures the heart rate of the rider at any time.
goblin183 4 months ago
@nschroeder21 : heart rate monitor wireless senzor
torentmonkey 3 months ago
did he just spit inside...
Icame2annoyYou 5 months ago
"25 watts in basically a week of training" -Carmichael "Impossible without doping" -Reality
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Betsy Andreu, Frankie Andreu testified against him. Greg Lemond showed Mcllvain was lying for him. Anderson saw him use adrostenone. Landis, Hamilton, Hincape all saw him. He employed Ferarri the infamous doping doctor. Idiots who think like you would have elected him governor of Texas, the 2bit cheating doping scumbag. You make peace with this you blind fans. Conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, racketeering, drug trafficking and defrauding the US Government.
matthewgrace928 6 months ago
You talk as if you know he has taken drugs. Im just saying it's strange that the three people who have ever testified against him has already tested positive, and all happened to be bringing a book out at the same time.
mathewpeterlee 6 months ago
@mathewpeterlee May you name those 3 witnesses and the names of their books?
BTW there is more than 3 people who have testimonied about Lance's doping, some of them : Mr et Ms Andreu, O'Reilly, Andersen, Prentice Steffen, and of course : Hamilton and Landis.
Please could you explain why did Bruyneel flee from Italia when Police was looking at him for testimony?
What about Carmichael involved with junior US team of Lance?
u368 6 months ago
@mathewpeterlee
they testified against him because they were all on drugs, but he got the best results and is one of the most famous cyclists without earning it
lfc9tsx 5 months ago
Could any of these commentors who bash Lance appreciate the hard work and dedication all pro cyclists have for their sport?
lansfordb10 6 months ago
For any of you who have ever had cancer, you would understand that it's unthinkable to even consider putting a harmful substance into your body. 500 tests, 500 clear.
mathewpeterlee 6 months ago
@mathewpeterlee Could you explain us why a lot of smoker still smoke even after illness?
hghepo 6 months ago
in all of lance's winning years, all the guys who actually had a chance of winning the TDF doped. I have little doubt in my mind that Lance doped too. If none of them ever doped (including Lance), he would have won also. Im sure he would love to say that, but the public could never really grasp that. He recognizes this and is a precarious position, and can't backdown from his past proclimations. That is why people loathe him. I honestly feel bad for him, he deserved every tour he won.
magua4 6 months ago
even you swim with steroids, you can't climb Alp d Huez
ikawpipa 6 months ago
@ikawpipa Amen to that!!!
ijp66 6 months ago
DRUG STRONG !!! Everybody loves a Fraud and a Cheater !
matthewgrace928 6 months ago
so how do i get my body to use fat for fuel?
batman2909 6 months ago
forget about the dope and the races he won....once the feds get him up on federal fraud charges (You did sign the U.S.Postal Service Contract Mr.Armstrong...did you not?)he'll start shakin in his boots just like McGuire and Bonds did when they asked them to make a choice....
tscholent 7 months ago
Fuck the critic's, Lance you're the best!
JeDaaRe1 7 months ago
Armstrong can't lactate :D
peterhejlejensen 7 months ago
Fuck all you haters! LIVESTRONG
whoisit604 7 months ago
Michael Ashenden develops tests for the Olympic committee to detect dopers and cheaters, "there is no doubt in my mind he (Lance Armstrong) took EPO during the '99 Tour." Ashenden led the Australian Instit of Sport to focus on battling blood doping. Google his 2009 interview with nyvelocity. No trial, but the expert scientist has NO DOUBT versus you the blind fanatic uninformed grasping at straws.Teammates, Ferrarri, Ashenden all say you blind fanatic supporters lose, sorry. AssProng doped.
musicNsoccer 7 months ago
Betsy Andreu, Frankie Andreu testified against him. Greg Lemond showed Mcllvain was lying for him. Anderson saw him use adrostenone. Landis, Hamilton, Hincape all saw him. He employed Ferarri the infamous doping doctor. Idiots who think like you would have elected him governor of Texas, the 2bit cheating doping scumbag. Probable conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, racketeering, drug trafficking and defrauding the US Government.
musicNsoccer 7 months ago
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roydcop 7 months ago
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musicNsoccer 7 months ago
Do Wrong! Cheat Long! Pharm Prong! Dope Strong!
musicNsoccer 7 months ago
Get over it!
cornbreadwillie 7 months ago
@cornbreadwillie I have, the question is, can you, now that your false idol is a proven hoax?
musicNsoccer 7 months ago
@cornbreadwillie Dope Dr. M Ferarri's clients: Berzin suspended 2000 elevated hematocrit, Bortolami 2003 cortisone, EPO, Ciapucci 1997 files seized, Landis 2007 2year ban, Mazzoleni 2008 2 yr ban, Mentheour 1997 EPO, Moser 1999 doping, Riis1996 epo, hgh, cortisone, Simeoni 1999 suspended EPO, Sinkewitz 2007 - suspended testosterone, Vinokorov 2007 suspended homologous transfusion - advised ArmProng & 2004 US Postal team to 7 tour de france wins - figure it out, deny truth, be blind. Dope Strong!
musicNsoccer 7 months ago
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roydcop 8 months ago
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matthewgrace928 8 months ago
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Many racers like ;Tyler Hamilton, Floyd Landis, Georges hincapie,Stephen Swart, Yaroslav Popovych saw Mister Lance Armstrong taking EPO and many other drugs hahahahaha
melende1966b 8 months ago
uhm, i dont wanna offend anyone but..is that dude wearing a brah?
Braqust7 8 months ago
@Braqust7 you are not offending anyone, you are making a fool of yourselves because its a heart rate monitor you idiot!
goblin183 8 months ago
Haha Kevin Livingston in a sweater of George Hincapie!
Sustructy 8 months ago 3
I'm going to laugh when Lance finally dies and they open up his chest and find a finely tuned V-8, Then i will have the last laugh on all your doping conspiracies
TexasRaTleSnake316 8 months ago
@TexasRaTleSnake316 American scientists have already measured his abilities in 1996 for the Olympics Games, and they have found that he was an average pro rider, not the best US rider, and with his average recovering ability, one day races were better.
That is the reason he was not able to be competitive on TDF until he doped with Dr Ferrari.
hghepo 8 months ago 25
@hghepo that would make sense if he were the only rider doping which he is not. thanks for playing hater.
superspazz61 7 months ago 2
@superspazz61 Lance is the only athletes who has bullied others athletes in front of camera, who has threatened ex-teammate, who has try to destroy Lemond cycling business after he had discovered the link between Armstrong and the doping doctor Ferrari.
How many riders have bribed UCI to clear positive tests?
BTW, how many riders were able to pay the price for the top doping program of Dr. Ferrari? Why did Lance bought an exclusivity for that doping program?
You play well denial of thruth
hghepo 7 months ago
@hghepo typically, young riders do not do very well in long races such as the tour de france. Usually they cant climb as well as riders in their mid twenties and beyond. the longer a cyclist rides, the more efficient he becomes. His lung capacity,and lung efficiency strengthen, different types of muscle that take long periods to develop grow. He completely changed his training from day races to mountains. (young riders can make good money competing in a lot of day races). Lance changed his style
magua4 6 months ago
@magua4 Young talented riders like Lemond, Hinault, Anquetil, Merckx, Poulidor, Zootemelk, Van Impe, Fignon were great at their 1st TDF ! He were considered as contender after the first mountain stages... and were already winner of major races like Dauphine, Tour de l'Avenir...
Lance is like Riis : a pure chemical creation
hghepo 6 months ago
@hghepo by the way, im not saying he didnt dope. I'm pretty sure he did.. But your explanation of Lance's progression looks like something you heard from someone who didn't know what they were talking about. Also, in his younger years, he was a team player, he wasnt even trying to win the TDF, he was a packhorse, and a team player. As he aged and proved he was a great rider, lance was told to dope(like all of the major contenders). he then beat all the other dopers for 7 years straight.
magua4 6 months ago
@magua4 LOOK AT A REAL AND GENUINE CHAMPION: CADEL EVANS!!! A MAN WHO RIDES ALL THE YEAR LONG, A COMPLETE ATHLETE, WHO DESERVED THE TOUR
asintotele 6 months ago 2
@asintotele i'm not going to argue, but unless cadel wins the 2012 tour de france, he's not getting much attention as he's going to stay as one more rider of the many in tour de france history who won a SINGLE tour de france... and besides, he didn't give a historical performance either, he just was better prepared, used better strategy and was able to win...
PabloakaChuck360 6 months ago
@hghepo shut up. World Champion with 21 years old. The youngest World Champion. This is the reason. Ullrich, Beloki, Landis, Hamilton, Basso and his rivals were in EPO and Armstrong beat him. What you dont understand? Come on tell me, who was better than him?I want to laught xd
franrafuki 5 months ago
@franrafuki Don't be so stupid. Lance is not the youngest ccyling WC. Check your facts.
Look at Lance's results before 1996! Why did Lance had half of his samples positive while in the same time the rest of peloton had just 10% of them? Could we conclude that Lance was much more doped than others?
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@hghepo You know nothing. Armstrong had the best levels of lactic acid, better lung capacity, and the best power, better than the average of a profesional cyclist. Read a little more and stop lying.
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@hghepo Could we conclude that you are lying. Tell us guy, where do you found it? Why should I believe you? You are a jealous commenting on all the videos of Armstrong and the UCI said Armstrong never tested positive. Why should I believe you and not to the UCI?I dont belive in the media speculation as you. I believe the judges and official organizations. Now, we can conclude that Ullrich, Beloki, Basso...were doped because they were sanctioned by an official organization, not Lance
franrafuki 5 months ago
@franrafuki Why should we conclude that I am lying when proofs and a lots of clues are pointing Lance's doping?
Is WADA not an official organisation, that pointed Lance doping too?
Did UCI receive a serious amount of money by Lance that was kept secret for many years? WHY?
What can explain a so sudden improvement of a rider after cancer? Did he lose weight? No as shown on his medical form priori each TDF!
Did he lie in 1999? Yes He said he had no TUE and then had one when testing positive
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franrafuki 5 months ago
@hghepo And one more thing. With or without EPO, Armstrong will continue to be much better than Ullrich, Basso, Beloki, because they were in EPO. The only thing that will change is that Armstrong will be a liar like everyone.
franrafuki 5 months ago
@franrafuki I didn't have read all your posts, but as usual Lance's fan say that he is not a doper because he never tested positive, then you point Ullrich Basso and Beloki as dopers, but did they test positive for EPO too?
Have you different standards? We can agree that all tgose guy were dopers, but only one threatened and still try to threaten people who are speaking of his doping : that is Lance. That makes him totaly different of others. What about US Postal investigation for drugs?
u368 5 months ago
@u368 Pff are you seriously? hahaha Basso and Beloki have their blood in the office of Dr. Eufemiano Fuentes, and obviously he were punished. Armstrong wasnt penalized because there is nothing more than speculation and accusations of ex-partners frustrated (and dopers) like Hamilton and Landis.
franrafuki 5 months ago
@franrafuki Funny, your are man. So Lance could have EPO in his urine while blood in a fridge make others as dopers.
About witnesses, Anderson, Mrs Andreu or O'Reilly, the ex-doctor of US Postal who refused to dope the team are they not credible too?
hghepo 5 months ago
@hghepo Now you know more than the UCI. Is Lance sanctioned? A judge has ruled that Armstrong is guilty of doping? Sorry but the facts are with me. His 7 Tours are there, in his results, and will not move from there. Sorry Loser.
franrafuki 5 months ago
@franrafuki Did I lie to cancer patients? Did I say that I would never dope after cancer?
Did Lance sue people who have clearly stated that he doped? Did O'Reilly or the Andreu being indicted for providing a false legal testimony during SCA affair? Why did LAF give $1.5M to Dr. Nichols? Why was Dr Nichols fired for ethical problem later?
hghepo 5 months ago
@hghepo speculations and conspiracies. Nothing new. Stop lying hater. 7 times.
franrafuki 5 months ago
@franrafuki My point was that you have 2 different standards, there is more proofs for Lance's doping that you deni constantly, while you have no problem to accuse Ullrich, Basso and Beloki of doping.
Basso just said he stored blood in case of ...
Ullrich was only caught for recreationnal drugs while driving in winter!
u368 5 months ago
@u368 pfff hahahaha I have any problem to accuse Ullrich, Basso and Beloki because they were sanctioned for doping, I dont need any more proof champion xD For Armstrong you dont have any proof, only speculations because at the moment he isnt sanctioned by any organization sorry. I believe in facts not in l'Equipe.
franrafuki 5 months ago
@franrafuki Facts are:
L'Equipe published a scientific report confirming the presence of EPO in Lance's 1999 TDF urine samples.
UCI refused to investigate seriously that case, preferring to order a dubious report from a Verbrruggen's friend.
WADA described that report as farcical !!!!!
Lance was involved in so many doping stories including actovegin(2 times), transfusion kit (2 times), US Postal trash,. he is connected with the most famous doping doctor : Ferrari.
u368 5 months ago 36
@u368 lol you joking right? I think you've confused speech. You said the speculation. The facts are: Lance won the Tour 7 times, Lance has never tested positive, Lance hasn't been sanctioned by doping ever. Lance is your hero. And you are a troll and lier lol
franrafuki 5 months ago
@franrafuki You will never know. We have just information about the average recovering of Lance, doculented by US testing for Olympics in 1996, and confirmed by results in first TDF.
For sure there were a lot of riders that would have easily beaten him. More important he was not born as a climber, he climbed because of EPO only!
hghepo 5 months ago
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@hghepo No. 1999 samples were analyzed illegally without the consent of Lance Armstrong. Research of EQUIPE was illegal because is Lance Armstrong who decides if their frozen samples can be analyzed. He doesnt want to analyze it because many laboratories have ensured that the analysis in frozen samples have a high probability of mistake. Next time dont believe what you read in the press and read directly by official news agencies. But dont worry, we will know if Armstrong doped soon.
franrafuki 5 months ago
@hghepo He had cancer in 1996 and there is nothing except mental state and tactics to keep him from being good in the tour or good in one day races. Look at his tests and results in 93-95 he out performed everyone but he was too heavy to climb and he wasn't tactically proficient enough or consistent enough to do well in the GC of a long tour. Plus why would he start doping after cancer and not before, even if he did dope the cause of his increased success after cancer was not doping.
babbfamilyidaho 3 months ago
@babbfamilyidaho Thanks to point his weight problem... but he was even a bit heavier in 1999 than for his first TDFs ! As you probably know riders were weighted during the medical checking prior TDF at that time. So Lance's weight loss is a lie, a myth. Most important, he improved his climbing power by more than 20% , that would mean 20% fewer weight , do you math!
testicular cancer gives false positive doping test but use of masking agents avoids false and positive tests : so Lance doped
hghepo 3 months ago 12
@TexasRaTleSnake316 HEY!, THAT THING GOT A HEMI IN IT?
andreas1g 8 months ago
A lot of errors of mjarti, Lance is not from far the most tested athletes, as pro-rider he has just an average VO2max.
Facts are that EPO was found inhis 1999 TDF samples, that he was in relation with the infamous doping doctor Ferrari, that Carmichael was forced to settle a lawsuit from Strock for being doped by Carmichael, Lance had Bruyneel, aka the hog for his PED appetit, as DS. Lance and his team were often caught in drugs scandal through the years.
Sure he doped
u368 9 months ago 2
@u368 You've missed my point entirely I'm afraid. He is the most tested man in sport ever (fact) and I'm simply saying his VO2 max is high, and thus would indicate a potentially impressive athlete. Finally, pertaining to your "sure he doped": you THINK he doped based upon circumstantial evidence and colleague association. I may well be wrong and you may think I'm am, or perhaps 'know' I am, but you don't and you can't. I intensely hope he didn't - I may well be proven incorrect.
mjarti 9 months ago
@mjarti Fact is that Zabel, Cippolini Jalabert (and Marion Jones)were more tested than Armstrong.
When Lance came back he was less tested than Cancellara, Cavendish, or Contador.
Clearly you know few about sport, cycling, physiology and doping.
You should read Dr.Ashenden interview about the EPO found in Lance's samples.
Could you give an explanantion for the 48% of Lance as hematocrit at the end of his TDF?
No scientists can explain it with natural means, only doping can do that.
u368 9 months ago
@u368 If you're going to make arguments you need to substantiate them, i.e. showing evidence of the total tests done by the aforementioned athletes; until then, it's your word against mine.
Of course I cannot explain that—I have no training in biomedicine and am not guilty of trying to profess it(!). While we're on the subject of 'knowing few', the phrase is "knowing little".
Ultimately, I think your aggressive attitude is rather unfortunate on the page of a charity.
Thanks for the input.
mjarti 9 months ago
@mjarti You just have to go on USADA websites, there is archive of testing on athletes Kristin Armstrong is much more tested than Lance !
On UCI website you could have learnt that Lance was tested around 85 times until 2005... Zabel or Cippollini were tested at least for every victories they got... more than 220 for Zabel and a bit less for Cippo, so much more than Lance.
During Marion Jones' trial we have learnt that she was tested 160times while doping : 2 times more than Lance.
hghepo 9 months ago
@mjarti Those points have been discussend and proved many times to Lance's fans.
From UCI websites:
* 1999 : 15 contrôles urinaires conventionnels (1 positif à la triamcinolone acétonide - corticoïdes)
* 2000 : 12
* 2001 : 10
* 2002 : 9
* 2003 : 9
* 2004 : 8 .
You should know that every winner of race or stage is systematically tested, that rules applies since the 90's. Now have a look at Zabel , Cippolini and Jalabert palmares and you will know that they had been much more tested !
u368 9 months ago
@u368 Wholly and unquestionably proven wrong. I'll admit to that. Nicely and politely argued my friend. ;)
I will hold out hope nevertheless until the day when l'equipe, or any other source, irrevocably proves his guilt. I'm stubborn like that.
mjarti 9 months ago
There's no point people being insulting and saying your dumb for believing he's clean, or vice versa. There's prolific drug history in the sport, especially recently, so it is quite possible Lance used drugs at some point. We don't know. I personally don't believe he did, partly out of hope, and partly because of the evidence provided. He's an incredible athlete - ridiculous VO2 max and metabolism. He's also the most tested athlete in any sport. Hold criticism for evidence, not rumour.
mjarti 9 months ago
@mjarti ¿quieres pruebas? ¿Como se pasa de quedarte en cuanto llega un puerto de tercera,y de quedar del puesto 50 o mas en contrareloj,a subir mil veces mejor que el mejor escalador y meterle dos minutos al mejor contrarelojista? Y en solo dos años y con el cuerpo destrozado por el cancer.¿Te imaginas la respuesta? CON DROGAS
ide380 9 months ago
@ide380 apologies for my poor spanish, but what i can tell, you are refuting his innocence due to missed tests and good form. As I said, it is perfectly possible that he used drugs, and some circumstances would suggest that he did. However, suggestion isn't proof. I'm not claiming I'm right and you're wrong: I cannot do that. My point is that no one can. I just can't see a cancer survivor jumping on a bike and saying yeah, I've just been on intensive chemo, now fill me up with more drugs...
mjarti 9 months ago
@mjarti Para mi es suficiente prueba que alguien haga algo que materialmente es imposible.Lo que Lance ha conseguido,se demuestre o no,es humanamente imposible.Si un español que corre 100 metros y no esta ni en semifinales,dentro de dos años y retirado de la competicion,bate el record de Usain Bolt en un segundo....yo no me lo creeria ¿Vosotros si?
ide380 9 months ago
@ide380 I'm afraid there's a slight contradiction in terms here though. You speak of materially or humanly impossible, yet it is quite clearly neither. Drugs don't give you some extra sensory, other-worldly power. They enhance your material, human potential. Now this may have happened. What also may have happened is that Lance, recovering from a situation of serious mental trauma and physical pain, was able to move beyond the pain of cycling etc and utilise more fully his natural potential.
mjarti 9 months ago
@mjarti El problema es que nunca ha tenido ese potencial antes del cancer.Yo nunca he visto a nadie en ningun deporte,que de ser un mediocre,pase a ser el mejor de todos los tiempos con una superioridad brutal.¡¡Y EN MENOS DE UN AÑO!!.Yo he sido deportista y cuando estas en la elite,subir un poquito cuesta muchisimo,ni pensar en subir a lo mas alto.Quien quiera creerselo pues mejor para el,yo solo veo una respuesta ENGAÑO Y DROGAS
ide380 9 months ago
@ide380 You're quite right, and perhaps the sudden turn of form was based upon drugs. He was diagnosed before the peak of his ability, in 1996, and in 1999 won his first TDF. I would like to believe that this form was based upon mental strength and his ability to 'build' his body as he chose after losing all muscle (i.e. in Not About the Bike). Neither side, I feel, will relent, so thanks for a good discussion—we'll agree to disagree.
mjarti 9 months ago
@mjarti Es un placer dialogar con personas tan respetuosas como usted.Podemos tener diferentes opiniones pero todo se puede hablar y nunca llegar al insulto (como es tan habitual) Encantado,ha sido un placer.
ide380 9 months ago
@ide380 The feeling's mutual
mjarti 9 months ago
...Y le detectaron algunos globulos rojos en la EPO
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thesportrun 11 months ago
What kind of trainer is Lance on?
What kind of trainers are to Lance's right (silver and black ones)?
I haven't seen any trainers like that before and I'm just wondering if they are more effective in giving a more realistic ride quality.
Thanks
kevinseanob 11 months ago
His thorax is HUGE. His lung must hold like 7 Liters.
m015094 11 months ago
@chrisbear08 I never believed that Lance was clean like some blind people here.
Dumbass would be better used with the guys havong their head sticked into sand to avoid the truth about their cheated hero.
Good to read that you are starting to think, that could led to serious improvements.
u368 11 months ago 2
Let's be honest, all major riders have already doped. It's true, that is pretty much the usual day on the office in professional cyclism, so yeah, this guy deserves the recognition for what he did nevertheless
kamhal89 11 months ago
@kamhal89 Let's be honest, on a clean field, never Lance would have won a single TDF!
The guy defamed a lot of people to hide his cheating, that is unacceptable.
u368 11 months ago 2
@u368 Lets be honest, even at a young age Lance showed incredible athleticism, lets be honest.. who says any other competitor is cleaner?
ChrisMoodie91 11 months ago
@ChrisMoodie91 So because there is dopers, Lance can dope too and then he is right to sue people pointing his doping, he is right to bully and harass people who have spoken about his doping or who have testimonied agains his doping doctor, he is right to lie to cancer patients,...
Lance is not only a doper, he is a swindler and he is acting like mafia.
u368 11 months ago
@u368 No you are being ridiculous. You don't know what is going on under the covers, you only read what what paparazzi tells you. The fact that you are putting a man who started a cancer awareness foundation to a mafia, speaks volumes of your character.
ChrisMoodie91 11 months ago
@ChrisMoodie91 If you can not put 1 + 1 together, I can nothing for you.
Madoff "helped" charity foundation too... He had been seen as a great man until thruth comes! The same will happend with Lance.
u368 11 months ago 2
@u368 You said dope 6 time in this post... thats a record faggot.
chrisbear08 11 months ago
@chrisbear08 Sure, I sould have used more because Lance doped more than 6 times on each TDF !
u368 11 months ago 2
@u368 Must have been great being there on every Tour Lance won to witness the doping??
didgiedog11 10 months ago
@u368, Oy. Time to start trolling on Pharmador's boards. That doping legend just got acquitted.
Sick3ninVend3tta 11 months ago
those who complain about steroids are those who do not understand about them. I'm going ti say it once in plain terms for all the simple people out there: TAKING ROIDS DOES NOT AUTOMATICALLY MAKE YOU AN ELITE ATHELTE
needabloodyname 1 year ago
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4ornyjas 1 year ago
i like this
MarsJohny 1 year ago
hey look theres sheryl crow with the pink hat
L0wnyus 1 year ago
Ok, now, I have a question, is there any high performance athlethe that DOES NOT take any type of exogenous enhancer??, I mean, IMHO, all of them do, the only difference is whos doctor is smarter and has him clean for the time of the doping test.
guilloncustals 1 year ago
I had cancer and 2 surgeries and I was put on to Live strong. Live strong is an integral componant to cancer survival but heres a question. For the last 30-40 years Cancer research has raised and spent over a billion dollars a year for cancer research but where are all the cures. Many causes of cancer and cures have been patented by entities such as the Rockerfeller foundation.
websuspect 1 year ago
@websuspect One specific cause of cancer is a virus called or identified as SV 40 found in the polio vacine. SV 40 is detected undectable virus found in Simions or monkeys used for the development of of MERCs polio vacines by Dr Marece Hilderman. Many cancers are caused by Viruses or things in our food or water such as Flouride or BPAs in plastics or Carcinagens found in things such as Synthetic hormones.
websuspect 1 year ago
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@websuspect World is full of haters and troublemakers!
IndepCA 1 year ago
people need to shut up about him supposedly doping. the man has raised millions for cancer and giving millions of people with it hope. doping or not that should be enough
awall930 1 year ago
@awall930 Yes you are right and if he raise more mney for cancer, he could beat everyone without having to face justice.
How much does he need for a murder immunity?
u368 1 year ago
@u368 for every 4 lives he saves he can have a murder. this is more than fair
awall930 1 year ago
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@locotte u368 is actually hghepo as well. "They" are the only profiles that spout out biased crap. He believes that only Lance Armstrong is immoral in cycling, eventhough the rest of the top GC GT contenders during that time were caught cheating. Lance has not been convicted of anything at this time, yet "he committed fraud, threats, doping, etc". Just ignore this talentless hack!!!! He will never have an adult conversation on the topic!
pdp110 1 year ago
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alonsoxabilfc 1 year ago
if you look at the facts certain things are clear.
1. armstrong took epo in 1999.
2. thereafter he probably didn't take eop but only transfused on the second rest stage which is the only explanation for his extraordianry blood values in the third week of the tour.
3. he was easily the most talented and committed tour rider of his generation and was riding with and against nothing but dopers.
4. he deserves his 7 tour crowns.
alonsoxabilfc 1 year ago
@alonsoxabilfc Your point 1 and 2 invalid your point 3 and 4 !
No one who cheats deserves to win.
u368 1 year ago
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@u368 how do my first two points invalidate his level of talent and committment? as for his deserving of his 7 wins, i say he soes because had he been riding clean and everyone else was too he would have won. possibly in 2004 basso was clean and riding the alpe tt against a doped armstrong and therefore basso should take that crown. but he may well have been doped himself. sastre was probably the only clean rider in the top 20 for all those years.
alonsoxabilfc 1 year ago
Did they say he had about 450 watts?
6Trento 1 year ago
magic potions ??? is this a cindirela story now ?? let be real any dope it will last for so long any way in your body is no posible for him to use in any tour cus they get check daily so now , he is good cus he give his heart and put 101% .
locotte 1 year ago
@locotte To be checked every day? there were 240 tests done during last TDF !
May you explain us how 190 riders riding 21 stages could have been tested every day?
Even people like Schumacher, Kohl, Landis, Virenque or Marion Jones were doped and tested negative because it's easy to defeat a doping test.
u368 1 year ago 17
doped or not he es the BEST get use to it . lance is the best in my book .
locotte 1 year ago
@locotte Clearly his performances before he met Ferrari and his magic potions were average : just able to ride with gruppeto on mountain stages, lack of recovering abilities, ... when riders like Lemond, Hinault or Merckx had all shown very great talent at their beginning, winning TDF at their first attempt.
Lance was only the best to benefit of doping. A real chemical receiver.
u368 1 year ago 2
@u368 you are dillusional if you think that lemond, hinault and merckx were not taking something......
aldolentini 1 year ago
Carmichael is the guy who setlled with Greg Storck after having be accused to have doped the Junior US team.
hghepo 1 year ago
is that jack vale's relative? xD
free4david 1 year ago
livestrong
otreborcampa 1 year ago
Did anybody catch was his LT watts were? What did the dude say?
silexent 1 year ago
I would like to direct all of the whiners about "cheating" to Alberto Contador's videos. He is now a PROVEN cheater, and deserves the criticism.
pdp110 1 year ago
we love you Lance.
All of your videos are pure inspiration for my life!
thank you.
Andythefunkman 1 year ago
I'd much rather finish last every time than take performance enhancing drugs.
latuman 1 year ago
@latuman That's probably why you are a nobody trolling on youtube videos.
needabloodyname 1 year ago
i never see lance armstrong off the bike lol
ruben3k5 1 year ago
he is super human!
123adrianramirez 1 year ago
Lance doped big time NO DIFFERENT from all other winning cyclists.
GShock112 1 year ago
So Lance doped...so what? Why do you guys all hate him for it? It's not like he did anything that all the other guys in the peleton weren't doing as well. So when you think about it, it's not even cheating. Don't know why you're all getting your knickers in a twist about it. Pro cyclists dope. Get over it.
yngwieisking 1 year ago 2
@yngwieisking So if pro riders dope, why did Lance lie about it? Why did he accuse everyone of conspiracy, spiking his samples?
Why does he have to defame everyone pointing his cheating?
Why does he have to defame the real US champion like Greg Lemond?
He is a cheater and a liar. We can only hope that Livestrong is not a scam too
hghepo 1 year ago
does anyone know the name of this song and artist?
Special1st 1 year ago
is lactate threshold the same as the anerobic threshold?
Bhousm76 1 year ago
Lance haters. please shut up! he has never been tested for doping. he is innocent as long as he never get caught!
what would you think if the police put you in jail without no evidence??
forbruger 1 year ago 3
@forbruger A best analogy would be what would you think if a corrupt judge was letting free a thief caught by police !
u368 1 year ago
well doped or not i think what lance have done by making the livestrong foundation makes him a good person
empiretotalwar1 1 year ago 3
Lance never doped, sorry!
psiturbo 1 year ago
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4 dudes lactate testing
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mthanna 1 year ago
when lance gets exposed he will think its a bad day for cancer... not for lance.... hes so lame hehe
gouldbourn1 1 year ago
What about Cori Cycle? Wouldnt the lactate be converted back to glucose?
shahzada619 1 year ago
DOES ANY ONE KNOW HOW CAN WE MEASURE LACTATE CONCENTRATION IN BLOOD SAMPLES? (cheap way)
esta49 1 year ago
@robriderx73 You are right the best doper is the best cheater : Lance you are the greatest fraud of sport.
u368 1 year ago
un modèle !
fennecduberry 1 year ago
does anyone know if george hincapie is still mad at lance after last years tour????
assman12354 1 year ago
@Sibleysibley When you were from a poor family, had no job, were spending a lot of money and be in connection with Al Capone, no one would pretend that you were honest.
It's the same with Lance, he is in connection with Ferrari, Bruyneel, Carmichael, Verbbruggen (aka Verdruggen)... and had had an astonishing transformation, after cancer while working with Dr. EPO Ferrari.
The 6 EPO samples of 1999 TDF aren't fiction, 48% hematocrit at the end of TDF is IMPOSSIBLE for a clean athlete.
u368 1 year ago
@u368 what do you men by "48% hematocrit at the end of TDF is IMPOSSIBLE for a clean athlete" ...48% is perfectly normal for a non-athlete male
seahog32 1 year ago
@seahog32 Hematocrit drops by at least 5 points during TDF without doping.
Lance' s natural hematocrit value is around 41-42%, so he should have finished TDF with a value around 37% , so we can without a doubt that he blood doped.
BTW dehydration would never explain a such value, or if it's true Lance would never been able to race: a 5% dehydration implicates a drop of physical performance by 10%, and only a extremely severe dehydration would led an increase of 10% of hematocrit.
u368 1 year ago
@u368 really?..i did not know that...what would be the mechanism behind drop of the hematocrit during TdF?
but again, i don't have access to Lance's medical record (do you?) but 42% seems to be extremely low for a top endurance athlete...if I am not mistaken, my highest hematocrit was 51, i was in my teens and never took anything, don't even think there was any artificial EPO available in those days..that is, of course, irrelevant, only those 42% don't sound right
seahog32 1 year ago
@seahog32 That is not difficult to find Lance's hematocrit, he published the results of his doping test last year on livestrong, including his hematocrit.
u368 1 year ago
@u368 so no idea why the drop of hematocrit during a big stage race?
seahog32 1 year ago
@seahog32
The drop of hematocrit during a race like TDF is a natural behaviour of body : it can rebuild enough red cells because of its repeated fatigue day after day. There is on the net a graph of the hematocrit of a whole team during TDF.
u368 1 year ago
@u368 average lifespan of an erythrocyte is 120 days (4 months) so insufficient rebuilding in the course of 3 weeks can't be the cause...the only other option would be increased breakdown which should be mirrored by increased blood/urine biliary pigments..anyway, if you say it is a known fact i'll keep it in mind..i was just wondering if you would know the mechanism behind this
seahog32 1 year ago
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seahog32 1 year ago
@u368
you realise you are commenting on the video that is scientifically proving that Lances body produces less lactic acid than the average human being? which is rare and it is arguable that could be used to his advantage but pain threshold isn't what makes him win professional cycling, his determination and endurance does. Read his books and you'll see..
Doee2010 1 year ago
@Doee2010 How those testing are independtly run by real scientifc and uncorrupt people?
Did Lance was blood tested before doing those test?
What about the real scientific lactate measurements by real scientifics before 1996 JO? Why have those tests concluded that Lance has an average lactate threshold, good for a one day racer, but too bad for an stage day racer?
I don't buy propaganda BS like does Lance's team to mask his doping use.
u368 1 year ago
@Doee2010 Scientifically is too much when Carmichael is involved... propaganda is better.
You should read Walsh's book "From Lance to Landis", or Dr Ashenden's interview about Lance EPO samples on velocitynation website
hghepo 1 year ago
@u368
Lance is not enhanced by such drugs either. Didn't you already know he is the most tested man on earth and never positive?
Shut up about doping.
eearie 1 year ago
@eearie Most tested athletes? NEVER less than Marion Jones, Zabel, Jalabert,...
Why do you repeat things without cheking them?
u368 1 year ago
@u368 Elite athletes are tested all the time. Do not spread your lies that Lance has not been test many times in season, out of season, and on race days. Lance went through chemo therapy, and you act like he has an enormous advantage over all of the other top GC riders who HAVE been caught, and sanctioned, for using PED! That is such a ridiculous stance to have!
pdp110 1 year ago
@pdp110 Lance had and has an enormous advantage on the few clean riders like Bassons. So you seems toagree that drug testing is not enough efficient to catch dopers.
As you already, Viru has testimonied ( Grail operation , Spain) that he was warned about unannounced testing and he warned US Postal' doctor of those testings. When we know that 20mn, the duration of a shower is enough to beat testing, you should understand how it was easy for Lance not to test positive too o