This is when we find out dolphins are actually way smarter then us and once they have the use of robot opposoble thumbs they rise up to destroy all humanity.
@Robloxblacky they grew a new brain using the neurons FROM a rat brain, therefore it is technically not alive. Plus, they are technically not harming anything, just giving brains bodies.
Yeah guys this is not actually controlled by a rat brain its controlled by neurons cultured from rat stem cells (well this is a newer way). They form into pathways and connect to metal plates. A computer feeds the culture input from the robots sensors and the culture is only thought to have the ability to proccess the information and send output to the motors without actually having a concious thought process, like a reflex action, in many ways it is random movement. In short: Robot does not wa
Just think if this was expanded to use internet connectivity instead of bluetooth and then everyone could have this robot in their homes but controlled by one brain!
all those who say poor rat this is not a full brain just a few neurons and this could help people and animals in the future let me tell you i have seen crazy experiments done on animals and this does not even compare
This is really harsh... Rats have personality and are alot like dogs they love there humans.... Would it be ok if it was a dog or a cat? I dint think so
@korikittemidnightsun Rats=Dogs. That is the most idiotic logic ever. It's a RAT not a hamster. not a gerbil, a RAT. Rat's are ravenous creatures that love to destroy everything. So f**k them :/
This isn't new at all, but I have heard that it's not the only way to go about it. You can just transfer brain wave patterns. This is one wave to make living, intelligent ships, but it's not the only way.
Tesla created a device to record and transfer the current of brain wave patterns into something that could be read. This device is likely similar. This is just proof, evidence it's possible . But it's existed for more than 60 years...
are you guys all jealous of God? (like Jehovah?) imitation is a form of flattery. but not in this case. i am a CREATIONIST ,entropy and the second law of thermodynamics. plus a whole ton of other proof exclude evolution. (in case youre and evolutionist)
Nothing excludes evolution. The theory of evolution has been peer reviewed by hundreds of scientists in order to prove it wrong, and while aspects of it have been wrong, the theory as it stands now is functional. Deal with it. Evolution is now proven. (Theory is the highest level of scientific certainty.) Your idiocy does not change that. Also, don't try to claim that you're an expert, because your grammar is terrible.
@Aegrus100 - what offends you more. the fact that i cant find my mouth, disagreeing with you? or mentioning a creation model? check out mr hugh ross @ reasons to believe-science podcasts.. yes, im an idiot. but he is NOT.
@noodlesmealey Tjen you above all people would be pretty familiar with the concept of consistently being demonstrated to be an immoral idiot that knows nothing...
Do you know what this research is for? NO!
Do you care? No!
But I can fucking guarantee in 20 years time if you get brain cancer or Alzheimer you'll be banging down the fucking door of your local doctors office begging for the results of this research to be given to you!
@davidda1000 Oh, of course. A typical knee-jerk reaction tainted by prejudice and idiocy. Here's news for you. Science will roll right over you. Right over you. There's nothing you can do to halt progress, because your opponents are ALL smarter than you.
Nuetronic tissues is the brain itself. Since its outside of the body it use to be and living with the lowest power of electricity it indicates to be full and energized. The rats soul is not on the brain. Plus many of you future haters hated rats in your life and killed something so I wouldn't be talking
All u fearful, hating, judgmental, close-minded twits, are much worse off in your current drone-like lives than little rat. They all said the same thing about the pioneers of modern day medical practices, that have kept u living & breathing as a small bump in the way of human evolution.
This species hasn't begun to evolve yet. It's not even self aware. Technology has nothing to do with the true evolution of this species. If you think that then you clearly have no respect or understanding for a natural and meaningful evolution of species.
I'd like to see us stop being so nasty, judgmental and , yes those things you mention are where we need to evolve.Putting brains into machines has nothing to do with this.
Whoa nuts.. I wonder if the rat is still conscious.. Or if its just the wiring of the brain that is controlling it. And how he perceives the sensory input.
It's not still conscious. It's not even a full brain. That robot uses only 100,000 neurons, while a full rat brain has over ten million. (A human, fyi, has 100 billion.)
@resserection1 Rats do not have a language center (brocas area) of their brain plus this was an aborted rat fetus.
Now do me a favor, next time you wear a leather jacket of shoes or eat a pork chop come back and tell us all about how bad it is to use animals as a resource.
You can tell Mark Hammond the guy who developed the machine too he'll pass on your concerns to the patients he meets that need a brain implant cos they are blind or deaf or dying [the purpose of this research]
CONT. You are at least however partially right...some members of this species [homo sapiens] are indeed pretty stupid... some of them even comment without bothering their ass to ask questions before making a fucking twat of themselves.
They go on about how its immoral this and wrong that! but have absolutely no clue what the hell they are talking about ....cos what hey know about medical ethics could be written in highlight marker on the rats arse!
@MumblingMickeyThey do have a language center. And Lab tests and such are extremely cruely done. our stupid species decides to Treat other species like shit. How would you like to be Tested on with poisons, makeup and numerous other things that would make you suffer. The animals that are tested on feel horrible pain when this shit is done. There are much better ways of testing than live subjects.
@resserection1 Rat... Do not have a language center in their brain... theres no point telling me they do... its not there ... physically missing... never evolved in the rat brain to begin with. They do like all higher mammels (espeicially omnivores and carnivores) have a part of their brain dealing with social interaction that is not the same thing... 'language' is different...specifically different.
Lots of animals feel horrible pain... the fact it has a nervous system would tell you that.
@resserection1 Next... my brain is not 100 neurons grown from a biopsy of a rat fetus brain stem taken in 2006! In other words the actual rat brain cells are grown in a culture... not grown in a rat. The rat wasn't a full grown rat...those cells won't multiply, you need stem cells for that. And this culture of rat brain cells does not feel pain there simply aren't enough of them.
The testing of chemicals by private organisations and other labs is NOT the same thing.
@resserection1 Lastly there is absolutely nothing wrong with eating other animals or using them for clothing or anything else. This might have escaped you attention, but humans are omnivores. Nature made us that way. Its in our nature to kill and eat other animals.
Morality and ethics does not cover doing things you can't avoid to survive. Unethical would be walking into lab and seeing a wild rat, then chasing it up the hall and beating it to death with a slide rule.
@resserection1 Lastly what gave you the idea the animal was 'alive' to begin with? Do you know what 'alive' is? these cells are capable of reproduction, and they do metabolize, but they cannot grow into a rat.
If you really want to get on a moral 'high horse' then consider how the family of a Alzheimers patient feel about you suggesting their father, mother, brother should not have a brain implant cos you object to a science you know nothing about.
@MumblingMickey .... Im saying that there are better ways of testing than shit that is being done today. and i know it is natures way but for fuck sake The animals with these stupid farmers are being abused and mistreated. And what your saying that apparently Their dead when tests are being done? not likely one bit. Yet they die after the test... painfully. Why the fuck would i kill a rat randomly that hasnt done anything wrong? i guarentee your one of those people who go around killing for fun.
Poor thing... It must be painful wake up at a machine without listening, seeing, or even feeling anything at all... Just try not to do this on people, ok?
@TheBestPokerPlayer It was never 'awake' to begin with...all the brain cells it uses were cultured in a dish... there are about 100 of them... seeing is well beyond its capabilities... but processing information it becomes accustomed to isn't.
If I were you I'd actually read up on WHY the robotics students made this toy... it has more implications that a robotic gerbil! ?You don't think a university would fund this research for no reason do you?
@TheBestPokerPlayer And next this research is undertaken precisely for the reason of eventually being able to do this with humans... humans that are suffering from Alzheimer, or brain dysfunction, or senility or brain cancer....
Its to work out how we can replace bits of broken humans who would otherwise die, go senile or otherwise have a miserable life!
@TheBestPokerPlayer You are aware that this is only a collection of a few hundred brain cells and even if it does have sentience this is all it knows. Its not like you or me waking up in a robot body not able to sense anything.
@TheBestPokerPlayer He didn´t awaked up, they picked up embrionary neurons and separeted them in a solution, so they are only single neurons that reconnected themselves in a robot.
@resserection1 Farmers and the domestic meat trade is one thing... a stem cell culture dating back to 2006 from a biopsy of a pregnant rat that might give rise to human implants that halt Alzheimers is another thing entirely.
But you can buy meat that is farmed ethically it'll just cost you 10 times more than you might pay in a supermarket. If you think that's what you need to do...then don't let the rest of us stop you from exercising your morals. Assuming you can afford to do so that is!
@MumblingMickey Well said. Most of these people don't realize how much science has already improved their lives. I have an idea- anyone who rejects science should be forced to live naked in a cave for a few years. Let's see if the scientists are so immoral after that.
@resserection1 You also missed th actual moral and ethical question posed by this research....which is far, far greater than that of a few tortured cows....
The real question is as follows... is it ethical to create a technology which might cost the end users $30k if they needed it... whilst allowing everyone that does not have those resources to suffer...
When this technology reaches the product line that'll be the actual question...not dead rats...
@colieswo Why? the guys who done this also know its immoral of them to have a solution for blindness, or deafness or other brain dysfuntion and not provide it! Thats what the research is for....
Plus I doubt your morals step in when your sitting in a cafe chowing down on a sausage sandwich!
Morality is subjective... this was 2007... the 'brain' is now grown and not extracted from rats... killing a few unborn rats thought them how to do that too!
@trollflagger The thing here is it is entirely possible to use cells from a rat or any living creature without killing it to get enough cells to make one of these... although in this case its rat fetus brain and the rat is now dead. IT was simply more cost effective and easier to do that.
Its not a full brain...just a few hundred neurons that essentially act like a programmed neural net..... I'm unsure what would make you feel sick?
Do you consider this machine immoral or unethical?
@ScamperRat Well actually it's to see how neurons work, and they didn't kill the rat once it was alive and the brain had developed, but when it was still a fœtus, as the brain cells hadn't that many connections and it would be easy to seperate and reconnect them.
I personally think it's better to kill them as fœtus' than to test on them whilst they're alive, as they have extremely little to no brain functions.
This is perhaps, getting too much? What about morals? No respect for life? Anyway, I don't want to die... put my brain in a jar if that's what it takes. Recently I discovered, american scientitts have made the first immortal organ in mice. Think it was liver.
that's not true this is fairly simple they just put electrodes to the brain tissue and connect it to a micro-controller which is plunged into motors and such
{A} yes it's real i have seen other examples of this
2. Assuming it's real, is the brain conscious?
{A} we have 100 billion brain cells there is only like 100 there. the rat has at least a billion. so the rat perceives nothing a plant has more consciousness than this
3 - {A} it is a slab of neurons much smaller than your smallest fingernail it is kept frozen
@sciencething0101 what would happen if you connected human cells to the robot? and what would happen if you DID put 100 billion brain cells in there? Would it be conscious?
human brain cells aren't too different although it hasn't been tested it wouldn't be too different and too connect 100 billion brains cells.the brain doesn't last more than 3 months and 100 billion electrical connections. that's not going to work and the way they are using it in this video is similar to the use of a transistor or micro controller such as a Ardunio. think of it this way the best robot we have on earth is as smart as a retarded cockroach.a calculator is smarter than this
2.Not really, the brain cells were separated with enzyme and now it only has extremely small amount of connections, compared to what working brain has.
3.It is in agar liquid that has some oxygen and nutrients for basic cellular respiration, depending on conditions it can survive few months.
4.Probably not
5.Nope, his only purpose is to reroute neurons according to the feedback it gets from his sensors. His only limitation is his sensors.
4. No, and it probably would never. Luckily rats don't have the same rights as humans so science can march forward, permission or not from rats or queens.
5. I presume it gets tired. In the brain. I think the better question would be "how does it sleep?"
but seiriously some of you are taking this 2 far 2 wrongs dont make a right so said my desiesed grand father. yes im aware of the slang in this sentence.
84 people are living in the future waaaaaa?? ..... Lol I can't tell if it is learning or not... Stopping before hitting walls, I wonder if they installed a safety system to paralyze function to stay away from walls..... who knows. But could you imagine, maybe it thinks it's a mouse, and that it's blind, and is just running circles, and the brain re-wired itself to work with the transimitters to understand what they meant? Even though it can't feel it's limbs... I wonder what it's thinking.
This awesome. When are they gonna use human brain cells ? Would it be able to learn like a human then ? Will it have emotions? so many freaking qeustions.
It Sends an uneasy chill down my spine. but i am intrested in the research no matter the moral feelings can the rat see? can it feel pain? what is it looking for? does it still think the same as it did. I wish i could have seen the day the doctor did a human to human head transplant so we would learn what happens and why. One day i wish to do experiments like this and donate my living body to an experament as well for only those willing to get experimented on should be the experimenters.
The music is creepy enough but then that robot is running around just like a rat and that makes me squarm. Its like a ghost in a machine or like that movie - Source Code.
There's a lot of possibilities but some of them are really scary.
@Goten475 Erm.. its real enough... In fact its now rather old technology and has moved on...this was first created in 2007 I think...see Mark Hammond, University of Reading... mark was just a post grad when he developed this.
The research centers on the feasibility of neural implants and how effective they might be. Medical conditions such as blindness, deafness, MND, Alzheimers, etc...
Its not like brain implants can be developed without research like this.
or no... better idea... turn THEM to living brains: amputate legs, arms. severe spinal lws tissue, deafen them, cut the tounge out, severe nervus olfactorius and blind them.
after this treatment let them live their miserable live as long as possible.
@allgovsarecriminal Would you care to voice you concerns to the people who suffer from brain diseases, blindness, deafness etc. That's what the goal of the research is for...to investigate the potential for human brain implants that might take over these functions.
[waits whilst with new information the moral landscape suddenly changes]
You don't really think a university would expend resources to create a toy do you?
That is so wrong!!! How can someone do something like that! Though it may be an animal, it would be like using a human for an experiment like that! Who ever did this should so pay!!!
@LonelyAlice Funny thing is alice....when your 65 and you go deaf or blind or you get alzheimers or any other neurological condition ... if you are offered the chance to see or hear again...all it's take is a single brain implant...ten minutes, you won't even need to be knocked out for it!
On that day you might remember how fast you were to criticize without bothering to wonder why anyone would create a machine that interfaced with brain tissue!
As Proffessor Farnsworth once stated: "Controversial in your time, yes. Now a days, SHUT UP!"
Redemptioner123 14 hours ago
oh man, inmortality. We can live forever in a robot suit
seiya209 3 days ago
Put human neurons in it and see if it tries to get on Facebook.
GeneralCane 5 days ago 2
This shit is scary.
swordfish1946 1 week ago
This is when we find out dolphins are actually way smarter then us and once they have the use of robot opposoble thumbs they rise up to destroy all humanity.
olelumpy 1 week ago
Put a piece of cheese in front of it and see what it does
mothertrucker122 1 week ago
@mothertrucker122 NOTHING because
a) Rats are actually lactose intolerant (most of them, anyway)
b) It does not have smell sensors
DinosaurBoy789 2 days ago
садизм
ga6i6kin 2 weeks ago
u should have used YOUR brain mf
szilardzsargo 2 weeks ago
I love all the butthurt going on about this....
briotera 2 weeks ago
Fuck U Just Fuck it Make Robot Then Script It All The Way Through Dont Use Other Animals Mind Use Ur Own For Testing Bitch
Robloxblacky 2 weeks ago
@Robloxblacky they grew a new brain using the neurons FROM a rat brain, therefore it is technically not alive. Plus, they are technically not harming anything, just giving brains bodies.
DinosaurBoy789 2 days ago
so very creepy .. i dont like this ..
juliannevillecorrea 2 weeks ago
Yeah guys this is not actually controlled by a rat brain its controlled by neurons cultured from rat stem cells (well this is a newer way). They form into pathways and connect to metal plates. A computer feeds the culture input from the robots sensors and the culture is only thought to have the ability to proccess the information and send output to the motors without actually having a concious thought process, like a reflex action, in many ways it is random movement. In short: Robot does not wa
TVTacon 2 weeks ago
oh look, an ad. Good bye.
ion010101 3 weeks ago
It's not a whole brain people, its a collection of cells for ma culture sample.
SphinCorp 3 weeks ago
Are you fucking kidding me?
DarkYoshi9999vr 3 weeks ago
hahha cool those it like cheese??
dymon1997 3 weeks ago
Haha! Marvelous! The shit that that we can do these days, makes me excited for the future.
Freak2121GTAF 3 weeks ago
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FreezeVirus 4 weeks ago
This is scary shit... I wonder what the rat must feel when it cannot feel, see, hear, smell or taste like a normal rat. Poor thing.
mmaarrkkuuss1515 4 weeks ago
stuipiiiiid gay and annoying samsung advert -_- iám going to open up my own video site better than yt
niklasmich 4 weeks ago
poor rat
2t22tornadosiren 1 month ago
well? what does that thing eat? its gotta live?
khudayer 1 month ago
Creepy
TheDyingCamels 1 month ago
I'm scared...
multipurposepaperbox 1 month ago
Just think if this was expanded to use internet connectivity instead of bluetooth and then everyone could have this robot in their homes but controlled by one brain!
360lolz 1 month ago
I want one as a pet :D
demonic41700 1 month ago
o and welcome to the future
diskjockyr00t 1 month ago
all those who say poor rat this is not a full brain just a few neurons and this could help people and animals in the future let me tell you i have seen crazy experiments done on animals and this does not even compare
diskjockyr00t 1 month ago
This is really harsh... Rats have personality and are alot like dogs they love there humans.... Would it be ok if it was a dog or a cat? I dint think so
korikittemidnightsun 1 month ago
@korikittemidnightsun Rats=Dogs. That is the most idiotic logic ever. It's a RAT not a hamster. not a gerbil, a RAT. Rat's are ravenous creatures that love to destroy everything. So f**k them :/
demonic41700 1 month ago
This isn't new at all, but I have heard that it's not the only way to go about it. You can just transfer brain wave patterns. This is one wave to make living, intelligent ships, but it's not the only way.
Tesla created a device to record and transfer the current of brain wave patterns into something that could be read. This device is likely similar. This is just proof, evidence it's possible . But it's existed for more than 60 years...
yodagreennutsack 1 month ago
are you guys all jealous of God? (like Jehovah?) imitation is a form of flattery. but not in this case. i am a CREATIONIST ,entropy and the second law of thermodynamics. plus a whole ton of other proof exclude evolution. (in case youre and evolutionist)
noodlesmealey 1 month ago
@noodlesmealey
Nothing excludes evolution. The theory of evolution has been peer reviewed by hundreds of scientists in order to prove it wrong, and while aspects of it have been wrong, the theory as it stands now is functional. Deal with it. Evolution is now proven. (Theory is the highest level of scientific certainty.) Your idiocy does not change that. Also, don't try to claim that you're an expert, because your grammar is terrible.
Aegrus100 1 month ago
@Aegrus100 - what offends you more. the fact that i cant find my mouth, disagreeing with you? or mentioning a creation model? check out mr hugh ross @ reasons to believe-science podcasts.. yes, im an idiot. but he is NOT.
noodlesmealey 1 month ago
@noodlesmealey Tjen you above all people would be pretty familiar with the concept of consistently being demonstrated to be an immoral idiot that knows nothing...
Do you know what this research is for? NO!
Do you care? No!
But I can fucking guarantee in 20 years time if you get brain cancer or Alzheimer you'll be banging down the fucking door of your local doctors office begging for the results of this research to be given to you!
MumblingMickey 1 month ago
It is a rat.. you can notice it behave like the one.. but I don't approve this..
PanHustej 1 month ago
@PanHustej Luckily, you don't get to approve anything. Otherwise, humanity would still be back in the stone age.
Aegrus100 1 month ago
@Aegrus100 Wait the time.. People like you will end up in stone quarry..
PanHustej 1 month ago
You know, I wouldn't be freaked out at all except for that damn music.
crazygeek4296 1 month ago
haha star wars mouse droid :)
FrankTheMouse 1 month ago
"They cannot stop us, they cannot stop the future."
Infinite101001 1 month ago
That's the only rat that isn't gonna be eaten by a cat. :D
RETROGAMER43 2 months ago
robocop
BucketheadCoverJr 2 months ago
Thats disgusting!!
davidda1000 2 months ago
@davidda1000 Oh, of course. A typical knee-jerk reaction tainted by prejudice and idiocy. Here's news for you. Science will roll right over you. Right over you. There's nothing you can do to halt progress, because your opponents are ALL smarter than you.
Aegrus100 1 month ago
Nuetronic tissues is the brain itself. Since its outside of the body it use to be and living with the lowest power of electricity it indicates to be full and energized. The rats soul is not on the brain. Plus many of you future haters hated rats in your life and killed something so I wouldn't be talking
fanzboy007 2 months ago
All u fearful, hating, judgmental, close-minded twits, are much worse off in your current drone-like lives than little rat. They all said the same thing about the pioneers of modern day medical practices, that have kept u living & breathing as a small bump in the way of human evolution.
lucidumbra 2 months ago 9
@lucidumbra
This species hasn't begun to evolve yet. It's not even self aware. Technology has nothing to do with the true evolution of this species. If you think that then you clearly have no respect or understanding for a natural and meaningful evolution of species.
I'd like to see us stop being so nasty, judgmental and , yes those things you mention are where we need to evolve.Putting brains into machines has nothing to do with this.
It is irrelevant.
yodagreennutsack 1 month ago
@lucidumbra
A monkey with a machine gun is still a monkey with a machine gun. This is irrelevant. This species has a lot more to learn than what's "modern".
Human evolution is HUMAN.
yodagreennutsack 1 month ago
Fuck the future is almost here, Aslo we wait for you!
alexhiny2006 2 months ago
Poor thing... Just let it die already... I'm sure it wants to just move on and not be some idiotic looking robot that stammers around the room...
randomraretutorials 2 months ago
@randomraretutorials
It doesn't want anything, because it's only a cluster of neurons. Idiot.
Aegrus100 1 month ago
This is sick. YOU ARE SICK FUCKWITS, DEAR SIRS!
QuantumFluxable 2 months ago
@QuantumFluxable
You, sir, are a fuckwit for being an ignorant bigot.
Aegrus100 1 month ago
Holy crap, i don't understand though the brain is sending signals into the robot? Because that's blowing my mind.
KrasnayaArmada 2 months ago
Whoa nuts.. I wonder if the rat is still conscious.. Or if its just the wiring of the brain that is controlling it. And how he perceives the sensory input.
Verry interesting yet somewhat disturbing.
ellipticality 3 months ago
@ellipticality
It's not still conscious. It's not even a full brain. That robot uses only 100,000 neurons, while a full rat brain has over ten million. (A human, fyi, has 100 billion.)
Aegrus100 1 month ago
Looks like we have a comment section war again...
mangokiller43 3 months ago
Caprica, is that you?
Sanref 3 months ago
This is fascinating, but it seems highly unethical.
FlamingBat 3 months ago
sick theremin
m4rk0256 3 months ago
this is intresting and all... but at what cost ?
jovicakluk 3 months ago
Holy shit, gotta install some rat neurons to my roomba asap!
Sainigma 3 months ago 3
rat trap?
Ksmoothie12 4 months ago
They're Pinky and The Brain
Yes, Pinky and The Brain
One is a genius
The other's insane
danielpufrj 4 months ago 25
@danielpufrj to prove there mousey worth
they'll overflow the earth
yes, its pinkie, pinkie and the brain brain brain brain...
SNARF
THEARBITER1236 3 months ago in playlist More videos from diagonaluk
Now picture your brain being transplanted to a robot...
Would you feel pain?
How would you feel?
Would you think for robot or yourself?
wow, so many questions....
Gordinak2 4 months ago 2
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toddskidmore1974 4 months ago
Next step ROBO-BRAINS and the reign of the evil Dr Mobious and his robo-scorpions. (fall out reference for those who don't know)
BraveWomanCandy 4 months ago
@resserection1 Rats do not have a language center (brocas area) of their brain plus this was an aborted rat fetus.
Now do me a favor, next time you wear a leather jacket of shoes or eat a pork chop come back and tell us all about how bad it is to use animals as a resource.
You can tell Mark Hammond the guy who developed the machine too he'll pass on your concerns to the patients he meets that need a brain implant cos they are blind or deaf or dying [the purpose of this research]
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
CONT. You are at least however partially right...some members of this species [homo sapiens] are indeed pretty stupid... some of them even comment without bothering their ass to ask questions before making a fucking twat of themselves.
They go on about how its immoral this and wrong that! but have absolutely no clue what the hell they are talking about ....cos what hey know about medical ethics could be written in highlight marker on the rats arse!
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
@MumblingMickeyThey do have a language center. And Lab tests and such are extremely cruely done. our stupid species decides to Treat other species like shit. How would you like to be Tested on with poisons, makeup and numerous other things that would make you suffer. The animals that are tested on feel horrible pain when this shit is done. There are much better ways of testing than live subjects.
resserection1 4 months ago
@resserection1 Rat... Do not have a language center in their brain... theres no point telling me they do... its not there ... physically missing... never evolved in the rat brain to begin with. They do like all higher mammels (espeicially omnivores and carnivores) have a part of their brain dealing with social interaction that is not the same thing... 'language' is different...specifically different.
Lots of animals feel horrible pain... the fact it has a nervous system would tell you that.
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
@resserection1 Next... my brain is not 100 neurons grown from a biopsy of a rat fetus brain stem taken in 2006! In other words the actual rat brain cells are grown in a culture... not grown in a rat. The rat wasn't a full grown rat...those cells won't multiply, you need stem cells for that. And this culture of rat brain cells does not feel pain there simply aren't enough of them.
The testing of chemicals by private organisations and other labs is NOT the same thing.
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
@resserection1 Lastly there is absolutely nothing wrong with eating other animals or using them for clothing or anything else. This might have escaped you attention, but humans are omnivores. Nature made us that way. Its in our nature to kill and eat other animals.
Morality and ethics does not cover doing things you can't avoid to survive. Unethical would be walking into lab and seeing a wild rat, then chasing it up the hall and beating it to death with a slide rule.
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
@resserection1 Lastly what gave you the idea the animal was 'alive' to begin with? Do you know what 'alive' is? these cells are capable of reproduction, and they do metabolize, but they cannot grow into a rat.
If you really want to get on a moral 'high horse' then consider how the family of a Alzheimers patient feel about you suggesting their father, mother, brother should not have a brain implant cos you object to a science you know nothing about.
Seriously... wtf?
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
@MumblingMickey .... Im saying that there are better ways of testing than shit that is being done today. and i know it is natures way but for fuck sake The animals with these stupid farmers are being abused and mistreated. And what your saying that apparently Their dead when tests are being done? not likely one bit. Yet they die after the test... painfully. Why the fuck would i kill a rat randomly that hasnt done anything wrong? i guarentee your one of those people who go around killing for fun.
resserection1 4 months ago
@resserection1 For the better good maybe? Would you sacrifice a few in order to save many?
LessThanNinth 4 months ago
Poor thing... It must be painful wake up at a machine without listening, seeing, or even feeling anything at all... Just try not to do this on people, ok?
TheBestPokerPlayer 4 months ago 35
@TheBestPokerPlayer it can see...
darkscurion 3 months ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer
nah.
MasterHacker01 3 months ago in playlist Bizarre robotic creations..
@TheBestPokerPlayer How is it not seeing? The whole point is making it "see" through the sensors, how isn't that a form of seeing?
falcord 2 months ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer It was never 'awake' to begin with...all the brain cells it uses were cultured in a dish... there are about 100 of them... seeing is well beyond its capabilities... but processing information it becomes accustomed to isn't.
If I were you I'd actually read up on WHY the robotics students made this toy... it has more implications that a robotic gerbil! ?You don't think a university would fund this research for no reason do you?
MumblingMickey 1 month ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer And next this research is undertaken precisely for the reason of eventually being able to do this with humans... humans that are suffering from Alzheimer, or brain dysfunction, or senility or brain cancer....
Its to work out how we can replace bits of broken humans who would otherwise die, go senile or otherwise have a miserable life!
MumblingMickey 1 month ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer: Not try to do this to ANYTHING with a brain. Humans don’t even remotely deserve to call themselves “special”.
Evi1M4chine 1 month ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer You are aware that this is only a collection of a few hundred brain cells and even if it does have sentience this is all it knows. Its not like you or me waking up in a robot body not able to sense anything.
eddyg545 1 month ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer If it has no senses, then it isn't truly concious. Unlikely to be aware of surroundings.
ThatBritishGenius 1 month ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer He didn´t awaked up, they picked up embrionary neurons and separeted them in a solution, so they are only single neurons that reconnected themselves in a robot.
buzznandes 1 month ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer Your lack of knowledge is quite impressive.
TheGoodOldRock 1 month ago 2
@TheBestPokerPlayer Yeah... must be painful not to feel anything at all.
Haimsheli 1 month ago 11
@Haimsheli haha xd
zwijgmaarliever 1 month ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer don;t worry when they extract the neurons, by taking them aware from nearby cells they lose any memory.
datafreak667 4 weeks ago
@TheBestPokerPlayer It is the machine. It was never anything else. Just saying haha
chylerreckeaolgodhul 2 weeks ago
@resserection1 Farmers and the domestic meat trade is one thing... a stem cell culture dating back to 2006 from a biopsy of a pregnant rat that might give rise to human implants that halt Alzheimers is another thing entirely.
But you can buy meat that is farmed ethically it'll just cost you 10 times more than you might pay in a supermarket. If you think that's what you need to do...then don't let the rest of us stop you from exercising your morals. Assuming you can afford to do so that is!
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@MumblingMickey Well said. Most of these people don't realize how much science has already improved their lives. I have an idea- anyone who rejects science should be forced to live naked in a cave for a few years. Let's see if the scientists are so immoral after that.
Aegrus100 1 month ago
@resserection1 You also missed th actual moral and ethical question posed by this research....which is far, far greater than that of a few tortured cows....
The real question is as follows... is it ethical to create a technology which might cost the end users $30k if they needed it... whilst allowing everyone that does not have those resources to suffer...
When this technology reaches the product line that'll be the actual question...not dead rats...
MumblingMickey 3 months ago
@colieswo Why? the guys who done this also know its immoral of them to have a solution for blindness, or deafness or other brain dysfuntion and not provide it! Thats what the research is for....
Plus I doubt your morals step in when your sitting in a cafe chowing down on a sausage sandwich!
Morality is subjective... this was 2007... the 'brain' is now grown and not extracted from rats... killing a few unborn rats thought them how to do that too!
seriously...morals...sheesh!
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
@trollflagger The thing here is it is entirely possible to use cells from a rat or any living creature without killing it to get enough cells to make one of these... although in this case its rat fetus brain and the rat is now dead. IT was simply more cost effective and easier to do that.
Its not a full brain...just a few hundred neurons that essentially act like a programmed neural net..... I'm unsure what would make you feel sick?
Do you consider this machine immoral or unethical?
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
People have rats as pets. Sure, they're not "kings and queens" but you don't have to kill them for moronic toys!
TTBigWinky 4 months ago
Was a rat killed for this? If so, then that's horrible.
TTBigWinky 4 months ago
Rat: "I never asked for this!"
PoweredByFlow 4 months ago
ITS ALIVE! HAHAHAHAHA ITS ALIVE! ITS...*three months later* auhhhhhhh, my rat died. :(
Irishcrossing 4 months ago
This is messed up. Seriously, what the hell? Killing trusting and intelligent rats to make your disgusting toys? Moronic.
ScamperRat 4 months ago
@ScamperRat Well actually it's to see how neurons work, and they didn't kill the rat once it was alive and the brain had developed, but when it was still a fœtus, as the brain cells hadn't that many connections and it would be easy to seperate and reconnect them.
I personally think it's better to kill them as fœtus' than to test on them whilst they're alive, as they have extremely little to no brain functions.
LuxurioMusic 4 months ago 3
btw i think its looking for some cheese dumbass
brokenbones1220 4 months ago
What if that rat remembers doing rat stuff but can't cause now he's a robot with 3 fucking wheels?
brokenbones1220 4 months ago
This is perhaps, getting too much? What about morals? No respect for life? Anyway, I don't want to die... put my brain in a jar if that's what it takes. Recently I discovered, american scientitts have made the first immortal organ in mice. Think it was liver.
CognitiveNetwork 4 months ago
Japan create the wasp-headed super robot equivalent, I believe.
As in literally, they kept the wasp's head alive and ATTACHED to a freaking MECHA.
It was both terrifying and awesome to behold.
Elementroar 4 months ago
c'mon, if this was 'real', it would be all over the scientific field already :3
sangyuni96 4 months ago
@sangyuni96
that's not true this is fairly simple they just put electrodes to the brain tissue and connect it to a micro-controller which is plunged into motors and such
sciencething0101 4 months ago
The creepy music doesn't help.
MrPipeBomb11 4 months ago
I would rather have the brain in the rat, and the rat in my hands so I could pet it and nuzzle it :)
forceretie 4 months ago
There is now way this is real? How is this possible. Wow! No fucking way!
perfectdruginc 5 months ago
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snaredrums123 5 months ago 13
@snaredrums123 "did the rat ever ask for this"?
no it didn't ask for that.
boethiah12 5 months ago
dude you are really ignorant
1. Is this real or not
{A} yes it's real i have seen other examples of this
2. Assuming it's real, is the brain conscious?
{A} we have 100 billion brain cells there is only like 100 there. the rat has at least a billion. so the rat perceives nothing a plant has more consciousness than this
3 - {A} it is a slab of neurons much smaller than your smallest fingernail it is kept frozen
4. Did the rat ever ask for this?
that has no answer this is a moral question.
sciencething0101 5 months ago
@sciencething0101
I wouldn't say I'm ignorant, this video gives very little information about what is actually going on.
But thanks for clearing a lot of things up for me.
Also, the last 2 questions are jokes, referring to a video game where people heavily augment their bodies.
snaredrums123 5 months ago
@sciencething0101 what would happen if you connected human cells to the robot? and what would happen if you DID put 100 billion brain cells in there? Would it be conscious?
BootyBot 5 months ago
@BootyBot im afraid humans have trillions of more brain cells than 1 billion
AlbertInSanAntonio 5 months ago
@AlbertInSanAntonio ok... so what if you put a brain in that "fluid"? Would that work? would it be conscious?
BootyBot 4 months ago
@BootyBot
human brain cells aren't too different although it hasn't been tested it wouldn't be too different and too connect 100 billion brains cells.the brain doesn't last more than 3 months and 100 billion electrical connections. that's not going to work and the way they are using it in this video is similar to the use of a transistor or micro controller such as a Ardunio. think of it this way the best robot we have on earth is as smart as a retarded cockroach.a calculator is smarter than this
sciencething0101 4 months ago
@snaredrums123
1.Real
2.Not really, the brain cells were separated with enzyme and now it only has extremely small amount of connections, compared to what working brain has.
3.It is in agar liquid that has some oxygen and nutrients for basic cellular respiration, depending on conditions it can survive few months.
4.Probably not
5.Nope, his only purpose is to reroute neurons according to the feedback it gets from his sensors. His only limitation is his sensors.
But he can become master avoider!
nom1nator 4 months ago 4
@snaredrums123
1. Yes
2. Don't know, but I presume.
3. I would hope so, but have wondered the same.
4. No, and it probably would never. Luckily rats don't have the same rights as humans so science can march forward, permission or not from rats or queens.
5. I presume it gets tired. In the brain. I think the better question would be "how does it sleep?"
BeBoBli 4 months ago
THEY NEVER ASKED FOR THIS
yaypyroo 5 months ago
Because brains can transmit and receive bluetooth...
mookie34545 5 months ago in playlist /x/
That's incredibly cool.
Shadeofpain2 5 months ago
i cant tell if this is real or not.
Freewindows7gen 5 months ago
How many of these robots attempt suicide?
Linkrocks0 5 months ago
"Why can't i feel anything.. Why can't i do anything but circle around.."
These "inventions" make me sick.
TheBalthu 5 months ago
Looks fake
lolshto88 5 months ago
NIce! how abt reprogramming the robot to be able to speak. then we will be able to speak to the rats! (brain)
xlade 5 months ago
poor rat
2t22tornadosiren 5 months ago
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2t22tornadosiren 5 months ago
but seiriously some of you are taking this 2 far 2 wrongs dont make a right so said my desiesed grand father. yes im aware of the slang in this sentence.
earthrat5 5 months ago
@earthrat5
You're aware that if this technology continues, they might be able to save cancer patients or other terminally-ill people?
People don't just do this shit for fun, kid. There's a point to all of it.
lolocoaster1 5 months ago
Fuck the jack ass maker inhufuckingmain you should get arested for 10 years fuck you ass holes.
earthrat5 5 months ago
@earthrat5 lol its just a damn rat those things are annoying and using all that profanity makes you look immature.
BungholeMcGee 5 months ago
what if that rat remebers doing rat stuff and tries to but he cant cause now he's a rbot with 2 fucking wheels
brokenbones1220 5 months ago
This is just disturbing and going way too far.
Featherclawspirit 5 months ago
@Featherclawspirit how. we must sacrifice to move on
Freewindows7gen 5 months ago
@Freewindows7gen Indeed. I understand you point. Yet what does a robo-rat have to do with anything of importance.
Featherclawspirit 5 months ago
how does it learn? is there some kind of positive feedback?
kneteanimator 5 months ago
the rat is thinking: what the hell happened, WHERE ARE MY LEGS?! WHERE IS MY HAIR?!! WHERE THE HELL IS MY D!CK?!!!!!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
lonewerewolfe 5 months ago
that is fucking disgusting
chainee 5 months ago
84 people are living in the future waaaaaa?? ..... Lol I can't tell if it is learning or not... Stopping before hitting walls, I wonder if they installed a safety system to paralyze function to stay away from walls..... who knows. But could you imagine, maybe it thinks it's a mouse, and that it's blind, and is just running circles, and the brain re-wired itself to work with the transimitters to understand what they meant? Even though it can't feel it's limbs... I wonder what it's thinking.
SniperCross2 5 months ago
0:29
rat: "OH SHIT! OH SHIT! OH SHIT!!!!!"
see how quickly that fucker tried to run away after he was released?
killer2611 5 months ago
This awesome. When are they gonna use human brain cells ? Would it be able to learn like a human then ? Will it have emotions? so many freaking qeustions.
nabil112 5 months ago
creepy as fuck, i think i'm going to have nightmares about it.
desirebluesky 5 months ago
I don't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for it...IT'S JUST TOO STRANGE!!!
Rachamacha 5 months ago
make a quadrupedal robot then try it.
Rachamacha 5 months ago
awesome robot :D 5* i like it is so cool ... how much is the price for 1 robot like this one?!
RomanKnight88 5 months ago
you mother fuckers i will fuckin kill you son of a bich i will put your shit sized brain in to a jar and tell you to suck my dick hope you die.
mrkamil775 5 months ago
@mrkamil775 YEAH MAN AVENGE THAT RAT! -_-
cronikproductions 5 months ago
@mrkamil775 you know that rats can give you diseases, why are you mad about them being turned into a robot which can't give you diseases?
BungholeMcGee 5 months ago
0-o
greenpancakemix 5 months ago
It Sends an uneasy chill down my spine. but i am intrested in the research no matter the moral feelings can the rat see? can it feel pain? what is it looking for? does it still think the same as it did. I wish i could have seen the day the doctor did a human to human head transplant so we would learn what happens and why. One day i wish to do experiments like this and donate my living body to an experament as well for only those willing to get experimented on should be the experimenters.
xXGshadow186Xx 5 months ago
Reminds me of the rat robots in that show No.6...
though I doubt any of you guys have heard it. :\
BreatheLifexX 5 months ago
You should Give it giant claws and give it control of a back hoe and see if it likes you.
xThexMaXx 5 months ago
The music is creepy enough but then that robot is running around just like a rat and that makes me squarm. Its like a ghost in a machine or like that movie - Source Code.
There's a lot of possibilities but some of them are really scary.
osiristar 6 months ago
*Please, kill me..."
Drnkmstr933 6 months ago
Total bullshit, doesn't even make scientific sense.
Goten475 6 months ago
@Goten475 Erm.. its real enough... In fact its now rather old technology and has moved on...this was first created in 2007 I think...see Mark Hammond, University of Reading... mark was just a post grad when he developed this.
The research centers on the feasibility of neural implants and how effective they might be. Medical conditions such as blindness, deafness, MND, Alzheimers, etc...
Its not like brain implants can be developed without research like this.
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
Just use rapists and pedofiles instead of rats. Rats are higher in rank.
thedeath942 6 months ago
Why dont they just leave the poor rats alone!!!
syreenaandhayley 6 months ago
BABY DALEK!
Spiritplumber 6 months ago
please someone kill these bastards.
or no... better idea... turn THEM to living brains: amputate legs, arms. severe spinal lws tissue, deafen them, cut the tounge out, severe nervus olfactorius and blind them.
after this treatment let them live their miserable live as long as possible.
allgovsarecriminal 6 months ago
@allgovsarecriminal yeh good idea
anime4ever2996 6 months ago
@allgovsarecriminal i am fucking angry to but read my commets or just remember 2 wrongs do not make a right
earthrat5 5 months ago
@allgovsarecriminal Would you care to voice you concerns to the people who suffer from brain diseases, blindness, deafness etc. That's what the goal of the research is for...to investigate the potential for human brain implants that might take over these functions.
[waits whilst with new information the moral landscape suddenly changes]
You don't really think a university would expend resources to create a toy do you?
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
How shitty must this be? You have a wonderful Rat-life and the next morning... BANG 3wheeled Robot.
Yaros666 6 months ago 27
@MrJakeo555 i am from the future i came back so i could see how my mom lived i am a cyborg also
rico32202 6 months ago
@MrJakeo555 i am from the future i came back so i could see how my mom lived i am a cyborg also
rico32202 6 months ago
That is so wrong!!! How can someone do something like that! Though it may be an animal, it would be like using a human for an experiment like that! Who ever did this should so pay!!!
LonelyAlice 6 months ago
@LonelyAlice Funny thing is alice....when your 65 and you go deaf or blind or you get alzheimers or any other neurological condition ... if you are offered the chance to see or hear again...all it's take is a single brain implant...ten minutes, you won't even need to be knocked out for it!
On that day you might remember how fast you were to criticize without bothering to wonder why anyone would create a machine that interfaced with brain tissue!
MumblingMickey 4 months ago
I hope they pay for what they have done.......
jegej18 6 months ago