Christian Living & Beliefs : About Divorce & Remarriage in the Church

[cr87129]

Why is the third related video a chicken wing recipe ?

[BiGMANJOE32]

If your in abusive marriage LEAVE BUT YOU ARE CELIBATE AND SERVE JESUS!

[SmklookinGlass]

"I have been convinced that we, as an order, have come under the power of some very evil occult order, profoundly versed in Science, both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their methods being black magic, that is to say, electromagnetic power, hypnotism, and powerful suggestion. We are convinced that the order is being controled by some Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that order itself."

-Duke of Brunswick, Grand Master of World FreeMasonry

[Rosebunse]

My father was very abusive towards my mother. Yes, maybe she should have stayed with him to help him through it, but she had me and my brother to worry about. She did the right thing.

[Soul7Patrol]

Christians who are divored do they have the right to teach/encourage other christians?

[supersportrsz28]

God Hates Divorce and that is enough for us believers to stand on and never choose divorce. We are to stand on God's word and have faith that He can move any mountain that is in the way of a Holy Marriage ordained by God. Divorce says I give up, I don't believe, I don't love you, and I can't forgive you. If you are choosing divorce and say God is in your heart and His perfect will is what you choose then please repent of the choice to divorce and seek God for marriage restoration. God is love

[theladylooking1]

The marriage to the Church and our marriage to our spouse should be alike,true? How can we have another God & go to heaven?

[pastorblove]

Good video.

[atteiruj]

I need to ask. What does God think if a husband terrifies his wife with temper tantrums, and verbal abuse regularly. Sleeps in another room for years and denies her any love or affection. Even physical abuse. The bible states that infidelity is the only reason to divorce. What if a wife leaves her husband to protect her children from learning that this is accepable behaviour. I had to and tortured myself with guilt as I am a Christian who wants to please God.

[BiGMANJOE32]

@atteiruj No it does not that passage unless it is for fornication(people who are not married having sex jesus was talking about the bethrothel system that hte jews had set up in those that if you wanted to break up an engangment you have to get a real divorce form that person!) Sorry YOUR WRONG IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE THEN WHY DID JOHN THE BAPTIST TELL KING HEROD IT IS NOT LAWFUL FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR BROTHERS WIFE!!!!! YOU PEOPLE ARE THE CRAZY HYPERCRITES!

[BiGMANJOE32]

@atteiruj No it does not that passage unless it is for fornication(people who are not married having sex jesus was talking about the bethrothel system that hte jews had set up in those that if you wanted to break up an engangment you have to get a real divorce form that person!) Sorry YOUR WRONG IF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS TRUE THEN WHY DID JOHN THE BAPTIST TELL KING HEROD IT IS NOT LAWFUL FOR YOU TO HAVE YOUR BROTHERS WIFE!!!!! YOU PEOPLE ARE THE CRAZY HYPERCRITES!!!!! WOW CHRISTIANS TSK TSK

[floydgirl7]

@RollinSkye

[Lachdenan]

This video is misleading. Your heart doesn't tell you right from wrong: Jesus already did. And if you're honest with yourself, you know that it doesn't feel right to leave your husband or your wife. You know it's wrong to break your promise to love, honor, and cherish them until death do you part. The scriptures are all there to back it up. Don't lie to yourself, even though it's certainly the hardest road for me--to hope that my wife wakes up from her Divorce Delusion.

[87UNC]

@Lachdenan yes u are so right

[Jorbz150]

@Lachdenan

It is true that the heart is not necessarily going to lead in the right direction. The heart is just about what you love. If you love money, the heart will mislead you.

However, doesn't a true Christian have a different heart?

But still, I would say that God does not accept divorce and remarriage.

[EvilsOfFeminism]

@Jorbz150 I would think so, but I don't like to assume things. I could be misled if I did. Of course, I could simply be hardened toward all the posing that occurs in "Christian" churches nowadays. I am in this case referring to the hypocrisy of the Pentecostals, who supported my wife's illicit behavior because she was legally related to the pastor's family. No wonder there is much wickedness in the world, I think, when the elect neglect their understanding.

[MsFreedom2fly]

@Lachdenan

What about those in abusive situations? What do you say for them to do?

[BCRIBB4real]

PT.2

So for the believers that is those professing God and Jesus Christ!

your to be reconciled to your spouse as long as they live according to God's Word, while your spouse is a live and you are only unbound upon their departing this life... don't let these people lord it over you to commit sin in error of the scriptures. God is not mocked! (let no man put asunder what God has joined together.) "I am the LORD, I change not." Malachi 3:6. open Bible God is unchangeable.

[BiGMANJOE32]

@BCRIBB4real I like the way you think many dont see it that way and they are going to hell. Im separated myself its been rough. But the truth is the turht

[BCRIBB4real]

Okay I will help those who believe God is God and His Word is the final authority on this for we have his word and he has spoken it to us!

God hates divorce, he permitted men to do so because of the hardness of their hearts through his servant Moses, but divorce is not the will of GOD!

in fact the only reason given for divorce is infidelity or unfaithfulness... Now in the case of an unbelieving spouse departing the believer is not bound to them,

the unbelieving spouse who breaks the covenant

[BiGMANJOE32]

@BCRIBB4real i was a believing spouse i broke my covenant due to bitterness and unforgiveness. But the bible makes no way 4 divorce and remarriage it thats the case then why did john the baptist tell king herod it is not lawful for you to have your brother's wife! Its a hard pill to swallow a married can be separated but they are forbidden to have another spouse until the first spouse dies. PERIOD!

[theladylooking1]

@BCRIBB4real Does the scripture say for adultery or does it say for fornication? ONLY the unmarried can committ fornication,the married committ adultery. remember Joseph was going to put Mary away because he thought she had committed fornication, but the Angel told him not to because she was with child of the Holy ghost,& The scriptures called Mary Joseph`s spouse even before they married because they were engaged.

[Floatie114]

Your description is incorrect. It isn't "the Christian church" that says remarriage after divorce is adultery. It's Jesus Christ himself who said this in the scriptures.

[ThePianoJockey1]

what the hell are you guys going on about? jesus is like a bloody debate between believers and non-believers!

[jchardy316]

what does continue in sin mean? we all even as Christians continue to sin. otherwise you wouldn't need 1 John 1:9 or Hebrews 12:6. I also learned in bible study that James 5:16 is saying we should confess those 'habitual' sins we struggle with so that we can pray with and support each other so we can by the Holy Spirit overcome those.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth... If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 There is noone who is without sin. That doesn't mean everyone IS sinning (present tense). It means everyone has sin on their record. Notice the words don't say "If we claim we are not sinning", but do say "If we claim we have not sinned" (past tense). If there is any sin in your life (present tense), then you need to immediately repent (meaning you are forsaking it forever). If not, you continue in your sin and therefore are not in fellowship with Christ.

[RobertMOdell]

@RobertMOdell but if you DO repent and ask forgiveness, Jesus will forgive. But acknowledging the sin isn't enough, it must be forsaken to gain forgiveness. If something is habitual or has a hold on you, you must still forsake it forever, something most people have no ability to do. Which is why we need a savior from our sins (from ourselves). The true born again experience cries out to the Lord "save me from myself".

[jchardy316]

@RobertMOdell What do you mean forsake it forever? Never do it again? Nail it to the cross and depend on the Holy Spirit to help you overcome it? I know recovered alcoholics who went into ministry who still struggle with temptation. Should they fall and drink does that mean they haven't 'forsaken' it?

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 If they drink again it just means they sinned. If they ponder their drinking afterwards and do nothing about it, then it feels a little weird (to me) as to whether their heart is set on loving and obeying the Lord. If they love Him, they should be grieved over their sin calling on the Lord for help.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 Christians need to be mature in their ability to call out what is rightious and unrightious. It is only wrong to judge in a hypocritical manner. However, it is only God who can condemn anyone. It is love to show people they are in danger. And it is a lack of love not to show people the way out of their painful slavery to sin.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 If you need the Lord's help, I will be glad to add my prayer to yours on your behalf. Freedom is a glorious thing, once you know you have it.

[jchardy316]

@RobertMOdell So are you at this point perfect? Have you stopped all sins since you've been saved? I immediately confess and repent of sin when it happens but sometimes it happens again. Paul even admitted this.  I ask God to cleanse me of sin and to give me the grace and strength not to fall again. But sometimes it still happens.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy; for I am holy. The answer is, we are all called to be absolutely holy and perfect. This is something we should all be striving for as it demonstrates our love for the Savior. Since I've been saved I have fallen, yes, but I have also confessed my sins and stopped sinning. Sometimes I need to pray for help in this because the temptations are very strong.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 Take today for example. I have not knowingly sinned today. However, since I love the Lord I sometimes pray for Him to show me ways I have fallen short and am unaware of, just so that I may gain His correction. Nobody is perfect or good, only God. However, Christians are to be obedient, righteous saints. Sin is the willful disobedience of God's commands, not the lack of perfection.

[RobertMOdell]

@RobertMOdell You will always be capable of sin and always be tempted by sin. However, the Spirit of Christ enlivens your soul in such a way that if you set your heart on Christ and call out to Him to save you from your habits, He will supernaturally change you within so that you are then able to resist temptation. But the choice will never be taken away.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 Hebrews 12:6 indicates that God will rebuke a Christian who sins, sometimes harshly. The only response of a Christian to their sin is repentance. If there is no such response, it indicates the there is no relationship with Christ.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 James 5:16 describes the act of repentance. The use of the term confession here doesn't just mean acknowledgment, but the expectation of forsaking and gaining the prayers of righteous in order to gain power to walk righteously or to be delivered from temptations, etc. The Lords prayer is a good working example for the expectation of righteousness.

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 Just to be clear, it isn't your holy living that gets you to heaven. It is what Christ did on the cross. However, holy living is an indicator that you have received Christ in your heart. If you aren't living a holy life, then you haven't. If Christ is in your life and you sin, you will feel the guilt, and you will soon be seeking forgiveness and ways to never again repeat. If not, how can one say they love the Lord? "If you love me, you WILL obey my commands".

[RobertMOdell]

@HeatherOfOz Interesting observation. We should all remember to uphold every last one of God's standards, even when we see those close to us in the wrong.

[RobertMOdell]

Milktoast teaching? Instead, teach the truth so that people may repent and live. God loves everyone, however he does not forgive or lend mercy to those who willfully continue in their sins. Period. There is only one way to know God, and that is to Repent (meaning forsake you sins) be born again, and enter into the redemption and justification, a true relationship with Christ offers. Anyone who continues in sin has never done this.

[floydgirl7]

Ok this sux!!I got forced to Marry my ex husband by my deluded father&his wife who has UnGodly visions,So this sux man not only was I forced to marry a aweful man,,but now I will never find mr right thats so sad,,oh well what can I do?What God says is true so this gal will never find happiness with a Godly man.How unfair ;[

[jchardy316]

So if divorce and remarriage are adultery what do we do with all the Christian couples in churches living in such a situation and arrangement? Who have already divorced and remarried?

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 What do you do with them?  1. You kick them out. 2. You tell them to repent and forsake their sin (which means to stop). 3. You teach the clear teaching of the BIble: Nobody who continues in sin has either seen or known Jesus. Amen.

[jchardy316]

@RobertMOdell So just to be clear. All the couples in my church who are divorced and remarried have to end their current relationships, separate, obtain a legal divorce (not really valid to God since it wasn't a valid marriage). Then either return to their previous partner or stay unmarried. That is what you are saying right?

[RobertMOdell]

@jchardy316 Yes, they should end all adulterous relationships and then stay unmarried. The time to be reconciled to your previous partner is after a divorce or separation, not after an adulterous marriage to another partner. The Holy Scriptures are very clear in this. In addition, if they want to be attending a church that serves the Lord, they first need to repent of their sins and become Christians.

[jchardy316]

@RobertMOdell Hmm, on this I must agree with you that this is what the bible seems to teach. I married a divorced woman and have since divorced her. I now have Christians encouraging me to marry again lest I 'burn' with desire. I must admit we can't justify remarriage by scripture.

[seadeus]

Malachi 2:17 does not leave room for God accepting a remarriage after divorce. Be careful seeking God's "guidance" when God has already spoken. God not only hates divorce, he is "wearied" by those that seek exceptions to his word.

[RobertMOdell]

@seadeus Amen, amen, and amen! There is no reason to "go and pray about something" for which God has already spoken loud and clearly through the Holy Scriptures.

[gilly877]

Divorce is not God's will and neither is re-marriage.... there are some circumstances to seperate from your spouse such as domesic abuse but to re marry the Bible is clear... you are committing adultery... Divorce is painful and so is a marriage that is breaking down but we have diluted the word and compromised on this.

[RobertMOdell]

@gilly877 Very very well put.

[CelticWarrior1971]

@Gumbystar: Read Matthew Chapter 5 Verse 32.

[101bible]

Matthew 5:32 doesn't permit divorce for adultery. It's translated from the Greek word 'porneia', not the Greek word for adultery. In other words, Jesus didn't use the word for adultery. We shouldn't either.

[CelticWarrior1971]

@101bible: Interesting. What does the greek word porneia mean?

[101bible]

Good question and thanks for asking. The Greek word 'mocheia', means adultery in English and is consistently translated as such. Porneia is a broader more vague word and therefore is translated differently in different Bible translations. In John 8:41, the Pharisees accused Jesus of being born from premarital sex translated from the Greek word 'porneia'. Jesus wasn't accused of being born of adultery. In the Matthew exception clause, mocheia would have been used if Jesus meant adultery.

[101bible]

More info on porneia. In Matt:15;19, the words porneia and mocheia are again used as meaning something different . Mocheia means adultery and porneia means something different, obviously not adultery, or Jesus would be repeating Himself. Translated from Latin, the word is clearly fornication, not meaning adultery. Porneia is a word that could include adultery, but didn't, or the word adultery(moicheia), wouldn't be needed. We shouldn't build a doctrine on one word that is somewhat vague.

[CelticWarrior1971]

@101bible: Interesting. So what is it saying then, you can get a divorce if fornication is the reason? Like if they commited fornication? If you are married, wouldn't that kind of be the same thing as adultery? Because if you are married and have sex with someone other than your spouse, it is fornication and adultery, all rolled into one, right? Or am I getting this wrong? What do you think?

[101bible]

In the Jewish custom. you could put away or divorce your wife if she had premarital sex during the betrothal(engagement period) Joseph was going to do this with Mary in Matt;1:19. Also read Deut:22 This was generally called fornication. Adultery is consistently used as a sexual relationship outside of an actual marriage. So sex as a single person is generally called fornication. Sex as a married person is almost always called adultery. In 1Cor 6:9, they are listed again separately.

[CelticWarrior1971]

So when you get divorced for anything other than adultery, and then you get remarried to someone else, you and whomever you are marrying, as well as your former spouse and whomever they marry, if they remarry, are all living in adultery. Now the solution for that is to just ask God for forgiveness? But, aren't you supposed to turn your back on the sin when you ask for forgiveness? So how does the forgiveness work, if you KNOWINGLY and WILLINGLY LIVE in the sin of adultery with your new spouse?

[userwl2850]

if a women commits adultery she shall be stoned to death. " god is so loving and bla bla bla." read your bible and you can,t go wrong" this guy is beyond help. god-b-less.

[heartafterHim]

First Titus 1:11,13 ....Do not fear telling the truth...Gal. 2:11-14 Paul told the truth and did it publicly... Fear Not..Rev. 21:8.....1 Cor.4:13...Do as is written....think in the likeness of the words of GOD and not your own thoughts... Isa. 55:7

[AlabasterAngel]

Remarriage is allowed only on grounds of wither death of a spouse or Adultary, like if a husband cheats on his wife then she has legal grounds to divorce him and marry someone else, because a third party has already enterd there for adultary is already there

[thetruthsetsfree]

AlabasterAngel, I use to think like you. Most Christians in our culture think so.

Now I have changed opinion. I have seen that God does not support remarriage in any situation.

God's law is universal and valid for ALL people, Chr. and non Chr.!

Marriage is a HOLY covenant (a blood covenant), that lasts till one partner dies. Adultery is breaking of a blood-covenant, which in God's eyes is to be punished with death (Lev20:10).

See these clear texts: 1Cor.7:10-12, Rom.7:3, Mat.5:32, Luk.16:18

[stopplayingchurch]

Man my brother you hit it on the head in the beginning!!!!....Preachers will lie to us because they are in their second or third marriage...Juanita Bynum